Will Cork blow it all?

[daniel]

Ack well sure u did say u wanted to include cup games therefore i stated the obvious, but sure usins didn't play your full team these games musn't count then do they not:eek:

[GavinZac]

Ack well sure u did say u wanted to include cup games therefore i stated the obvious, but sure usins didn't play your full team these games musn't count then do they not:eek:

i didnt say they didnt count. look, the best measuring point of consistency before a league finishes is average points. at the moment, both clubs are on 2.2. just because you've managed to claw back points in games which you've looked like losing points does not make you more consistant. personally i'd use the word jammy but sure all that matters is the points ;)

[daniel]

Jammy is when a a goal keeper hits the ball of the opposition striker and the balls trickles over the line, and maybe you could remind me of what happened at Bohs, or maybe even not getting a man sent off after tackling a keeper where he then goes on to score the winner!!

[GavinZac]

Jammy is when a a goal keeper hits the ball of the opposition striker and the balls trickles over the line, and maybe you could remind me of what happened at Bohs, or maybe even not getting a man sent off after tackling a keeper where he then goes on to score the winner!!

what was that phrase you lot kept using? "when your name's on the trophy..."

[tiktok]

....what's to suggest you'll automatically beat us?? :confused:.

That's not what I wrote.

I wrote we had to step it up tonight, but that we should have enough to beat you. I also recognised how hard it will be by saying I'd snap off a hand offering a one nil.

This is another thread that's gone to absolute sh!te on here though.

An interesting question is posed but instead of actually discussing the topic we have people on all sides having cuts off each other and each other's clubs with hardly any intelligent comment within 3 pages.

Anyone else sick of it?

[daniel]

aye just you keep thinking it was me using that post, i havent mentioned that once!!

[noby]

"Anyone else sick of it?"

Yes. Most of this thread is like a school playground. The 'retard' comment being a particular low.

anyway, tiktok, mypost's second paragraph sums it up. They're also fighting for their lives. I'd hate to call it, but hopefully, for our sake, Cork will sneak it.

[Krstic]

Tonight is a big night for Cork City and their title chances.
They need a victory and a convincing one at that.
The last thing they want is having to face Shelbourne and Derry coming off the back of 3 bad results.

And whatever team win the league,are the better team.

We had to listen to the same crap in 1997 when we won the league by 10 points. People like Ricco proclaiming that the better football sides didn't win the league.
In my opinion, the team with the most points at the end are the best.

C'mon Rovers:D

[daveh]

A 1-0 win will do,why does it have to be convincing?as long as we have more points at the end of the season,goal difference wont come in to play

[Krstic]

A 1-0 win will do,why does it have to be convincing?as long as we have more points at the end of the season,goal difference wont come in to play

I just feel that a convincing victory for Cork tonight would give them a better mental edge for their last 2 games away to Shels and home to Derry.

[Dodge]

This thread is prime example of why most nuetrals seem to want Derry to win it ahead of Cork. if it goes down to the last game with Derry only needing a point, I can't see them being beaten (dodgy 93rd min penalty aside)

[Roverstillidie]

I love the balanced and well thought out opinion on this board.
"Will Cork blow it all?"
Yes, because I hate Cork people.
Classic stuff! :D

i never said i thought you would choke, i said i would prefer to see Derry win it.
they are more gracious in victory (you have 1 league and 1 cup in 21 years and the tone of the posters here points to that cork arrogance we all know and love), far more friendly to us when we are up there, have been through thick and thin with their club, unlike cork when the going gets tough they fold and rename the club, you can have a beer with them without the fear of someone bottling you etc etc.
i think they are more deserving of the title as a club, even though i would acknowledge that cork are the better footballing side, insofar as that matters in the EL.
with the exception of you peader, you are magnificent!! :D

[Peadar]

the tone of the posters here points to that cork arrogance we all know and love)

Derry have come from nowhere this season and most of their fans are in shock. If they win the league it wont be long before you're calling them arrogant and get sick of listening to them go on about how great they are.

It goes with the territory.

We've been title contenders for so many years that we're always a major rival to some club. Finn Harps were the only ones bothered with Derry for the last 10 years.

[Krstic]

We've been title contenders for so many years that we're always a major rival to some club. Finn Harps were the only ones bothered with Derry for the last 10 years.

Funny we won the league in 1997 almost a double and we won the Cup in 1995 almost a double......... Five years yes, but ten:confused:

[GavinZac]

you can have a beer with them without the fear of someone bottling you etc etc.

now you're just making yourself look silly. can you spell "hipokracy" up there?

[Peadar]

Five years yes, but ten:confused:

It's closer to 10 than 5.
I was being general.
You do know that we're nearly in 2006???

[Slash/ED]

Rico could go into the last game of the season needing only to get a result at home to win the league.

Lads, there's no way he'd blow something like that, surely :)

[GavinZac]

Rico could go into the last game of the season needing only to get a result at home to win the league.

Lads, there's no way he'd blow something like that, surely :)

at what stage of this season did fenlon bottle it?

[Roverstillidie]

derry have won more than you in a similar time frame in LOI football.
they are better winners, they never went on like this AND YOU STILL HAVE NO SILVERWARE THIS SEASON.
i think the majority of non-cities fans would agree on this, you set yourselves up for a fall by being so co.ck-sure of winning so early on, whereas derry quietly went about their business.
im sure you will all be back watching rugby again in a few seasons when it all goes tits up (again)

[Slash/ED]

at what stage of this season did fenlon bottle it?

He didn't, at any stage of the season, 'bottle it' :confused:

[dcfcsteve]

It's closer to 10 than 5.
I was being general.
You do know that we're nearly in 2006???

FAI Cup win in 2002 anyone......? :D

[Roverstillidie]

now you're just making yourself look silly. can you spell "hipokracy" up there?

here we go again....
has any shamrock rovers fan ever broken a bottle into the face of any other fan? ive never heard of it happen. angels we are not, but no-one has ever been scarred for life like that by our bogies.
try again.

[GavinZac]

He didn't, at any stage of the season, 'bottle it' :confused:

ah right. here was me thinking ye dont have any chance of winning the league and we do.

[Peadar]

whereas derry quietly went about their business.

Just wait until next season when there is something expected of them.
I wont expect your to publicly acknowledge that I was right just so long as you give Derry fans an equally hard time next season. ;)

[Slash/ED]

ah right. here was me thinking ye dont have any chance of winning the league and we do.

You'd be correct.

You realise you can be in that position without 'bottling it' do you? Do you even know what 'bottling it' means? We weren't even in a position to do that.

We were the last two years running though.

[GavinZac]

here we go again....
has any shamrock rovers fan ever broken a bottle into the face of any other fan? ive never heard of it happen. angels we are not, but no-one has ever been scarred for life like that by our bogies.
try again.

last time i was at a rovers @ home game, a pint glass was thrown into our section. since i quit my job last month, myself and the missus have been to every away game but i'd rather not bring her anywhere near you scum for this one.

[Roverstillidie]

Just wait until next season when there is something expected of them.
I wont expect your to publicly acknowledge that I was right just so long as you give Derry fans an equally hard time next season. ;)

history dictates otherwise, but you are dug in on this one, so ill politely smile and nod....

gavin, i think we established beyond any doubt in a previous discussion on this that it was returned to the cork section from whence it came. not clever by whoever returned fire, but its an important distinction.
another reason i want derry to win it, they dont bury their heads in the sand about the (rare) nastiness that comes from their fans like you do.
"you scum" blah blah.

[Peadar]

FAI Cup win in 2002 anyone......? :D

Who won the FAI Cup last year or the year before for that matter?

You know well, the league is where it's at Steve.

[Slash/ED]

Who won the FAI Cup last year or the year before for that matter?


You might want to forget, but Europes 'elite' are well aware of the answer to that question anyway :o

[GavinZac]

You realise you can be in that position without 'bottling it' do you? Do you even know what 'bottling it' means? We weren't even in a position to do that.

losing the run of yourself under pressure? you put yourselves under so much pressure this season, is it any wonder its been a total disaster? no trophys, no champions league, at best the slim hope that several things go your way so you'll just about get a european place.

or is bottling it not getting the results from your players in the 4 hardest games of the season? what can rico bottle anyway? its not like he has much choice with squad selection or tactics at the moment.

[Slash/ED]

losing the run of yourself under pressure? you put yourselves under so much pressure this season, is it any wonder its been a total disaster? no trophys, no champions league, at best the slim hope that several things go your way so you'll just about get a european place.

or is bottling it not getting the results from your players in the 4 hardest games of the season? what can rico bottle anyway? its not like he has much choice with squad selection or tactics at the moment.

No, that's called being sh*t. Bottling it would be proving you're good enough and loseing via BOTTLING IT due to lack of nerve. That's what bottling it means. Shels simply haven't been good enough for large parts of the season.

Ricos Shels team 'bottled it', this seasons Shels team simply didn't click/start playing well enough in time. If there was an issue with bottle we'd have known about it two titles ago.

[GavinZac]

gavin, i think we established beyond any doubt in a previous discussion on this that it was returned to the cork section from whence it came.

i think we're on about different times a glass was thrown into a city section :rolleyes:

[Roverstillidie]

i think we're on about different times a glass was thrown into a city section :rolleyes:
i dont think we are.
unless im mistaken, this was the time when your local rag showed a picture of the cork scrote who threw it being frogmarched out under the heading 'rovers run amock' or somesuch. they retracted the story later.
we digress, keep it on topic.
more reasons why derry is better than cork. keep em coming

[GavinZac]

i dont think we are.
unless im mistaken, this was the time when your local rag showed a picture of the cork scrote who threw it being frogmarched out under the heading 'rovers run amock' or somesuch. they retracted the story later.
we digress, keep it on topic.
more reasons why derry is better than cork. keep em coming

nope, this was a few years back in richmond park. didnt make any headlines.

[Roverstillidie]

nope, this was a few years back in richmond park. didnt make any headlines.
pint glass in richmond?!?
have no recollection of that, but if true apologies on behalf of rovers fans. we have banned a number of individuals since then and the standard of stewarding has improved dramatically.
but my original point about head in the sand at cork towords trouble you cause stands. as shown beyond doubt by a mod on here (no names :rolleyes: ) refusing to condemn it and closing the thread when queues of people objected to him glorifying violence.

[Peadar]

but my original point about head in the sand at cork towords trouble you cause stands.

I don't think that's fair.
Most clubs with any sort of crowd have had to take a look at themselves and examine their security arrangements.
We're no different and have implemented the necessary changes.

[ThatGuy]

Joking aside, I think that the "chip on the shoulder" attitude which seems to be a defining characteristic among a lot of people from Cork has inevitably cost supporters of their team any goodwill from the supporters of other clubs.

However, I wouldn't begrudge Cork their success this year. They have been the best team that I have seen in the flesh this year, play good football and have good players. I am sure that they would do the league justice in the Champions League next year, (though how far that means I do not know) and would be deserving Champions.

They have played an awful lot of games though, a lot of big games too, and I think that they may have ran out of steam. I thought that against Bohs a couple of weeks ago was the poorest performance that I had seen from them this season, and I think that their manager's reputation as a "bottler" can only be adding to the pressure at Turners Cross.

As for Derry, I have not been overly impressed by them this season and I think that they were very lucky to get such a high return of points from Bohemians. However, they are in contention for the title on merit and the momentum seems to be with them. I would like to see them win it for two reasons, firstly Stephen Kenny is their manager and secondly providing Cork win the FAI Cup the Setanta and Intertoto spots will be going to whichever club finishes 4th in the league.

[GavinZac]

but my original point about head in the sand at cork towords trouble you cause stands. as shown beyond doubt by a mod on here (no names :rolleyes: ) refusing to condemn it and closing the thread when queues of people objected to him glorifying violence.

what trouble? you just said yourself the "cork scrote" who threw something was frog marched out and banned from the ground. a glass being thrown at us in richmond was unpunished and apparantly unsurprising. i did feel pity that around 50 of your fans felt the need to spend the 2nd half trying to provoke us rather than watching the match.

[dcfcsteve]

You know well, the League Cup is where it's at Steve.

Couldn't agree more..... ;)

[Speranza]

I haven't read the 5 pages preceding this but thought I would throw in my tuppence worth.

I expected Cork to draw with Rovers tonight but looking at the list of absentees the Hoops have I'm not so sure. The simple fact is that Cork have no talisman in attack.

Cork are on a bad run. We lost to Waterford fair enough but they scored their one chance of the evening while Cork couldn't score past a 9 man Pats team. Drawing with Waterford and only beating us because of a disgraceful pitch again shows their form ened with the second series of matches.

Someone said that the Cork defence is going through a bad spell, McCourt has been ferocious in recent weeks and he'll punish any lapses as will K Brennan.

For the first time this season I am confident, a famous little scrote said that it was destiny that his team would beat us and he we got the last laugh but I really believe our destiny this year is to win this league. I am not saying this out of blind ambition as all year I felt Cork would triumph but everything has changed and come the 18th the biggest turnaround in this leagues history will be complete.

[Peadar]

...Cork couldn't score past a 9 man Pats team.

Derry fans are obsessed with this.
Pats had their second player sent off in injury time when they had everyone behind the ball and were fighting for their lives.
They beat us in the same way that Waterford beat you.


only beating us because of a disgraceful pitch

You sad little child. Was their some magical pitch in Turners Cross that night which was good for us and bad for you?

We beat you because Stephen O'Flynn committed a foul in the penalty area and George O'Callaghan scored the resultant free kick.

Something you might want to consider though, Cork City FC have won all their games in Dublin this season.

[pete]

If the scores from next 3 games are:

City 1 Rovers 0
City 0 Shels 10
City 1 Derry 0

then we win the league.

We may be stumbling but this team is proven big game team.

[EnDai]

If the Results are:

Cork 0:1 Rovers
Shels 1:0 Cork
Derry 1:0 Pats
Cork 99:99 Derry

Cork finish 3rd. Its ever so, ever so possible!! :D

[Clifford]

Is tonight's game on any tv station?

[EnDai]

Unfortunately not! :(

[Clifford]

Typical, the most exciting climax to a season possible and not even tv3 or tg4 could muster up the interest, I see Setanta have Friday's game, who has the City v Derry game?

[mypost]

look the retard is here again!

Funny how the only posters who ever insult me personally are those from Cork, ain't it? Wonder why?


where did he say we'd beat you automatically. he said we need to step it up.

By saying that they "should" beat us, it implies that he thinks they automatically will.


the question is, will you be in the premier next season now that you have no A license?

We will get our license next year, no problem.


This is another thread that's gone to absolute sh!te on here though.

Cork fans always want threads closed, the minute someone dares to ridicule them. :rolleyes:

I never said we will beat Cork, we could be 3 down at half time for all I know. But, if we get stuck in, and take the game to them on a wet night, I don't think they'll fancy it, and we might nick it 1-0. We've beaten Shels and Derry already this season, there's no reason on current form, to suggest why we can't catch Cork on the hop too. They're the ones with the pressure, so if they don't win, Derry have one hand on the trophy, and can clinch it at the weekend. If we win, Finn Harps are relegated, and it builds the momentum up to the Waterford game. 3 more points from that one would mean top-flight survival again. :)

[GavinZac]

Funny how the only posters who ever insult me personally are those from Cork, ain't it? Wonder why?

i know that you've personally insulted me a fair few times when i point out how foolish you sound ("keeping the ball on the wing should be a foul!") so you're fair game. dont know any other cork fans who insult you but i presume its for similar reasons.


By saying that they "should" beat us, it implies that he thinks they automatically will.

:D is english your first language?


We will get our license next year, no problem.
dont you mean whatever other club you'll be scrounging off will get their A license and you'll kinda tag along?

[paudie]

Cork Loosing at Home to St. Pats and having to come from behind twice and not being able to take advantage of a 10 man Waterford has nothing to do with Derry's superb run of form.



Losing to Waterford in their last home game has nothing to do with Derry's "superb" run of form either:D

[paudie]

They're the ones with the pressure :)

Surely you're not saying there's no pressure on Rovers tonight? Of course there is.

Although having been at the Cobh v Dublin City game on Saturday I wouldn't have too many sleepless night about potential playoff opponents.