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RedX
12/10/2005, 9:47 PM
Can we start a poll on here please...who do you want as next manager?

Kerr to stay..

Martin O Neill

Roy Keane

David O Leary

Other..

CollegeTillIDie
12/10/2005, 10:01 PM
Lawrie Sanchez as outlined in another thread is my suggestion for managing an All-Ireland team :D

Soper
12/10/2005, 10:02 PM
Rico.Please don't laugh at my choice.

CollegeTillIDie
12/10/2005, 10:10 PM
Rico.Please don't laugh at my choice.
If we persist with a 26 counties only side I'd second that motion.

Closed Account 2
12/10/2005, 10:11 PM
I think Aldridge could be in the fray when it comes to selection... dunno who will get it, hopefully MON

brine3
12/10/2005, 10:12 PM
Roy, of course.

But there's **** all chance of that happening.

It will probably be Bryan Robson.

RedX
12/10/2005, 10:14 PM
I would go for Martin O Neill..let the powers that be worry about getting him..no 2nd rate managers anymore..

Soper
12/10/2005, 10:15 PM
The only problem I could see with Rico is that some of the prim-donnas in the squad might have trouble accepting him as a coach, and also I'd be afraid that, talented coach as he is, he might go the same way as Kerr.

I think he'd be a better option than David O'Leary though..

Green Tribe
12/10/2005, 10:16 PM
i would love martin o neill, but won't happen, he's on nurse duty. i really don't know, can't think straight at all right now :mad:

robbie_B
12/10/2005, 10:23 PM
Listening to Kerr after the match he sounds like a man who is fed up with the press, and who can blame him. Dunne wants him to stay on and the players do seem to respect him so maybe he will stay.

Do you think the FAI would look outside Ireland and England for a manager?

brine3
12/10/2005, 10:24 PM
Yeah, what about Big Phil Scolari.

CollegeTillIDie
12/10/2005, 10:27 PM
brine3

Now you're talking, or a coach from ex-Yugoslavia

A face
12/10/2005, 10:30 PM
How organised are the FAI for this whole process ??

Micko Mac wasn't even in the final pool of managers to be interviewed when he got the job. I think he was given the job in the que at McDonalds or something like that !!

What will it be like this time round ??

CollegeTillIDie
12/10/2005, 10:31 PM
Oh the Genesis Report will sort all that don't you know! :D

Volcán Masaya
12/10/2005, 10:39 PM
An Argentinian or Brasilian or Eastern European........ no more EPL/SPL/EL sh!!te.

davey
12/10/2005, 10:45 PM
Gotta be D'OL for me

tricky_colour
12/10/2005, 10:47 PM
Mick?:o

Qwerty
12/10/2005, 10:49 PM
brine3

Now you're talking, or a coach from ex-Yugoslavia

Bora Milutinovic - I was thinking along the same lines, however I think the next manager will be Irish or British, I don't think a continental manager would work.

What we need is a manager with a proven track record in taking in poor teams and moulding them into a tight effective until and playing to a level above the sum of it's parts.

Martin O'Neill has to be the first name on the sheet, David O'Leary is the only other obvious Irish born candidate other than Ian Dowie.

Steve Coppell and Sam Allardyce would be my top British candidates.

Closed Account 2
12/10/2005, 10:53 PM
Ronnie Whelan mooted Quinny & Peter Reid joint managers on Sky just now, I wouldnt fancy that.

If it was to be a non-Irish or non-British man, I'd pick Mira Lucescu

deadman
12/10/2005, 11:12 PM
i don't think there'll be too many interested in the job.
hardly an attractive position

i do hope Kerr falls on his sword now ... to save us any more agro

ThatGuy
12/10/2005, 11:15 PM
Brian Kerr should stay.

Who do you think we are, Brazil? Do you not see what players we have available? There is no better man to bring in new young players than Brian Kerr, and the focus should be on building a team for World Cup 2010. There is no-one better than Brian Kerr who would take the job.

RedX
12/10/2005, 11:25 PM
Brian Kerr should stay.

Who do you think we are, Brazil? Do you not see what players we have available? There is no better man to bring in new young players than Brian Kerr, and the focus should be on building a team for World Cup 2010. There is no-one better than Brian Kerr who would take the job.


I really feel sorry for anyone that thinks like you...do you actually know much about football?..you are messing right?...:confused:

deadman
12/10/2005, 11:27 PM
he's been given ample time to try something different, put his stamp on the set up and we've continued to deteriorate.

ok, so we don't have as good as squad as in past campaigns but i don't think he's been able to even get the best out of what we have on a consistent basis.

mick never even finished below second place ....

ThatGuy
12/10/2005, 11:28 PM
No I obviously don't know anything about football. I guess I should take a leaf out of the foot.ie book and campaign to get rid of our next Under 21 manager because he doesn't pick a squad of Eircom league players, preferably from Cork, and I should campaign to get Kerr out because he didn't get a crap team into the World Cup on his first attempt.

We should be coasting through with class players like Carr, Dunne, Harte, Cunningham, Morrison, Reid, Kilbane, Holland and Kavanagh. Man, they should be winning the world cup let alone qualifying for it. Kerr out!

Let's get the man who ****ed up brighton in, or the man who bankrupted Leeds!

RedX
12/10/2005, 11:39 PM
No I obviously don't know anything about football. I guess I should take a leaf out of the foot.ie book and campaign to get rid of our next Under 21 manager because he doesn't pick a squad of Eircom league players, preferably from Cork, and I should campaign to get Kerr out because he didn't get a crap team into the World Cup on his first attempt.

We should be coasting through with class players like Carr, Dunne, Harte, Cunningham, Morrison, Reid, Kilbane, Holland and Kavanagh. Man, they should be winning the world cup let alone qualifying for it. Kerr out!

Let's get the man who ****ed up brighton in, or the man who bankrupted Leeds!


ThatGuy...come on in fairness..while you make the point that some of our players are not great and i agree with you there do you not see that whatever players we have they still have to be organised and set up right to play football..i have never seen two such poor performances together from an Irish side..well not since the mid-eighties..there is no motivation or organisation there right now..if there was even those two i think Kerr would at least get some support besides yourself..people who earlier defended are now being honest and can see after tonight he is not up do dealing with the pressure of managing the Irish senior squad..

ThatGuy
12/10/2005, 11:51 PM
RedX, I expect you will get your wish very soon as I doubt Kerr will still be in charge when the Euro 2008 draw is made. My opinion is clear, as is yours, there is no point in a debate which will be re-hashing the same points.

I think Kerr has done a decent (not great) job with the resources available to him and should be given another shot.

You think that he is not up to the job. Fair enough, I don't agree but I think that the decision makers probably do agree with it.

BTW, the Cyprus performance was terrible, but we still won, but have you seriously never seen Ireland play worse than they did tonight?

RedX
13/10/2005, 12:02 AM
BTW, the Cyprus performance was terrible, but we still won, but have you seriously never seen Ireland play worse than they did tonight?


Yes i did...last Saturday night..:D

Seriusly i respect your opinion and fair dues because not many people are backing him right now..i have said in a different thread already that i thought there was some passion there tonight and they put Switzerland under pressure during the game without ever creating to much..but it was the least amount of passing football i have seen from us in years...it was a bad performance against an average side...i mean whatever channel you listened to all the panelists were saying the same..Moran,Stapleton,Houghton,Dunphy,Giles...it was very very poor all round really..we played the same way for 90 minutes..lob the ball into the last third and hope for a knockdown to Keane/Elliot from Morrison...

soccerc
13/10/2005, 1:19 AM
the players do seem to respect him

Do you really think so? From speaking to one or two over the past few days I sincerely doubt that is the case. Respect is earned not a right

robbie_B
13/10/2005, 1:53 AM
Do you really think so? From speaking to one or two over the past few days I sincerely doubt that is the case. Respect is earned not a right

If that is the case surely he will be heading for the door. I have read a few interviews mainly from the players who Kerr brought through the ranks, Richard Dunne being the most recent stating that he wanted him to stay on. Did they mention who they would like to be manager? Who would you want to charge for the Euro qualifiers soccerc?

noby
13/10/2005, 7:26 AM
If a mod is going to set up a poll, can they also modify the title. That past tense is a bit misleading. It's like it was all done and dusted while I slept.

For me *if* Brian's contract isn't renewed (he himself was speaking past tense lastnight, as if he's resigned to it), then I can see O'Neill there.

shakermaker1982
13/10/2005, 7:48 AM
Martin O Neil, pay him more than Sven. I don't care but get him in. Sorry Kerr 2 failed qualification campaigns costs you your job.

Kingdom
13/10/2005, 7:49 AM
The way I'd see it is that Brian Kerr's contract ran out as soon as the final whistle blew last night and we were knocked out.
It's up to the FAI to offer him a new one, but I would be surprised if that happens now.

As for who might be appointed. I would have no issue with an ex-international being appointed, but another English manager, no thanks. Why pick an English one? Pick a continental if we are unable to choose an Irish manager.

Of the Irish candidates the usual will trot out, Reid and Quinn; Houghton I'm sure will throw his hat into the ring; Aldridge; O'Leary; perhaps Moran will try again.

Sorry to the eL heads but the chances of another manager without experience at the top level of pro football being picked in the next 10 years is slim to none. So that would rule out Richardson.

Just something that I thought of yesterday....in Don Givens interview on another thread someone asked would he leave the U-21 job, his response was a fairly inconspicuous one, something along the lines of " I love my job, blah blah, you never know what might come around the corner, what opportunaity may arise.." . Perhaps Givens has been sounded out as "home" coach to a foreign manager who would have little info on Irish football?

Darco Ooragnak
13/10/2005, 8:06 AM
Alan Kernaghan...

Rover 2 U
13/10/2005, 8:13 AM
The man they should have appointed the first time round -

Joe Kinnear!

drinkfeckarse
13/10/2005, 8:21 AM
Martin O' Neill would be the best option at this moment in time IMO.

Countyman
13/10/2005, 8:36 AM
The only man for the job is Martin O'Neill.
He is the one man who can get the most out of limited players through organisation and motivation.

I have absolutely no confidence in John Delaney and the FAI to do the right thing.

finlma
13/10/2005, 8:45 AM
Here's how Paddy Power see's it:

D O'Leary 5 - 2
M O'Neill 11 - 2
Roy Keane 11 - 1
J Aldridge 12 - 1
J Kinnear 14 - 1
G Graham 18 - 1
T Venables 20 - 1
G Burley 20 - 1
K Keegan 22 - 1
P Reid 22 - 1
R Houghton 25 - 1
G Strachan 25 - 1
K Dalglish 25 - 1
L Brady 33 - 1
Niall Quinn 33 - 1
K Moran 50 - 1
A Ferguson 50 - 1
J Giles 100 - 1
SG Eriksson 100 - 1
J Charlton 100 - 1
E Dunphy 250 - 1


I'd like George Burley to come in - great manager. Gets the most out of not so good players and thats what we need.

Darco Ooragnak
13/10/2005, 8:50 AM
..or could we poach Lawrie Sanchez.....decent manager and he would know the league down here...

Don Vito
13/10/2005, 9:04 AM
JoeSemi isn;t around today so I'll post his choice for him:

Guus Hiddink (assuming Australia fail to make the finals)

Can't see Martin O'Neill wanting it to be honest but I'd love to see him take over. Or Mick McCarthy.

drummerboy
13/10/2005, 9:10 AM
David O’Leary was at the game last night. Don't think he would get the respect of the players. O'Neill would be a fantastic choice. He is used to working wonders with limited resources … so the Irish job is made for him.

redgav
13/10/2005, 9:20 AM
God ,.this is depressing , all the same crap failed or won nothing ever english managers being bandied around bang on q !!!



Wim Jansen is available
Phillip Trossier -I wanted him last time ,would still prefer him
Watch Gus Hiddinck dump the aussies in a flash if offered the job
Otto hitzfeld is dying to get into International management

We don't need to keep our expectations as low as sam flamin allerdyce in all fairness.Just what we need ,a return to Hoofball.

We need someone with European experience and a football pedigree ,someone who will come in and take the youth we have and make them better players ...players are not progressing under the muppetry of givens ...its sad that someone like kerr , who made his name with youth , didn't have the balls or cop-on to blood some of the youngsters in friendlies

Peadar
13/10/2005, 9:26 AM
i would love martin o neill, but won't happen, he's on nurse duty. i really don't know, can't think straight at all right now :mad:

You'd have to change your name to "O'Neill's Tribe" then. ;)
It's the end of KT as we know her. :D

mchurl
13/10/2005, 9:34 AM
surely has to be martin o'neill. and it could possibly suit him as it would only be part -time which means that he would still be able t look after his wife as well as mnaging ireland.
Also he has stated before that he would ike to do the job one da.:ball: y

as_i_say
13/10/2005, 9:35 AM
i respect kerr for what he has done but he has been too negative tactically and that was our downfall. i think with players that we have now we are always gonna struggle to beat any decent team like france or switzerland.

what you dont do is replace an injured robbie keane with graham kavanagh and switch to 4-5-1 with 60 mins left in a home game to israel. and you should not tell your players to sit on a 1 goal lead away to a team like israel, who are bad but not totally cr ap.

same with cyprus-the players are not motivated by the man and its time to go.

Of course mccarthy made similar gaffs but survived I think due to a wave of optimism about new players coming through etc. Remember Iceland at home, 2x Macedonia, Croatia away, Yugoslavia away. He got the tactics completely wrong those nights but survived. Our team was just that little bit better back then.

Kerr just seems to be out of his depth. Good luck to him in the future but theres no way he'll get a new contract

onenilgameover
13/10/2005, 9:56 AM
Hiddink wouldn't be a bad idea. I don't think Martin O'Neil would be interested.

Macy
13/10/2005, 10:12 AM
You'd have to change your name to "O'Neill's Tribe" then. ;)
It's the end of KT as we know her. :D
Martin O's Tribe, as foot.ie resident mot.... :D

Block G Raptor
13/10/2005, 11:13 AM
Bring Back Jack!!!!!!!!:) :D :) :D :)

seriously though it has to be Martin O'Neil no excuses this time FAIlures dig deep and pay top dolar for a top manager

pete
13/10/2005, 11:19 AM
I agree that the Paddy Power list of alternative managers is very depressing - every failed two bit manager from the UK. :rolleyes:

We have serious probalems in midfield which i doubt any manager could solve.

raytown red
13/10/2005, 11:24 AM
Can we start a poll on here please...who do you want as next manager?

Kerr to stay..

Martin O Neill

Roy Keane

David O Leary

Other..
in all fairness instead of asking who we think should get the job i think the real question is who would want the job after that performance last night absolutely attrocious.

raytown red
13/10/2005, 11:37 AM
i would like to see the legend aldo get the job because although he has not had much success in management he would at least put belief unlike kerr