2026 Attendances

[Shinkicker]

I think this year will be the most successful in term of attendances. It's just a pity the size of the current stadiums is probably now the main restrictor. james McClean will be an attraction and what looks like being a closer run thing for the title that will keep fans interested and and wanting to attend. Ironically a lot of fans complained about Dalymount only allowing 450 away fans into the Mono stand and when they get the opportunity to show their strength they want to boycott it.

[EatYerGreens]

I think this year will be the most successful in term of attendances. It's just a pity the size of the current stadiums is probably now the main restrictor. james McClean will be an attraction and what looks like being a closer run thing for the title that will keep fans interested and and wanting to attend. Ironically a lot of fans complained about Dalymount only allowing 450 away fans into the Mono stand and when they get the opportunity to show their strength they want to boycott it.

To balance against those is the fact we've swapped Cork with Dundalk, with the former usually being better supported. And the Bohs Aviva opener this year will have a much smaller crowd than the one last year did.

But then having both Galway and Derry playing at GAA grounds should also increase crowds for both - if only for the novelty factor.

So swings and roundabouts all over the league when it comes to attendances. Hopefully we'll have a proper title challenge at the top, and a tight relegation battle at the bottom, to keep crowds good throughout.

[Inchicore]

I think this year will be the most successful in term of attendances. It's just a pity the size of the current stadiums is probably now the main restrictor. james McClean will be an attraction and what looks like being a closer run thing for the title that will keep fans interested and and wanting to attend. Ironically a lot of fans complained about Dalymount only allowing 450 away fans into the Mono stand and when they get the opportunity to show their strength they want to boycott it.

I see there is 18k sold for Sundays game. What is the breakpoint for Bohs to cover costs? I remember hearing it was around this figure.

[Nesta99]

It was almost 300k during pandemic to rent, so its probbably closeer to 350-400k by now so I think thats 18-20k just in ticket sales, that number drops with sponsorship and other matchday income obviouly. Its not going to the earner it was last year but unless maybe Bohs still count what the exposure is worth. 18k is good and its advance sales, they could get 5k in walk ups on the day?!

[yurt]

If they come close to breaking even its a massive win for Bohs. I would say there'll be close to 500 people there at their first Bohs game. That's is a lot of potential membership, ticket and jersey over time.

[EatYerGreens]

If they come close to breaking even its a massive win for Bohs. I would say there'll be close to 500 people there at their first Bohs game. That's is a lot of potential membership, ticket and jersey over time.

Definitely. I'd even say that if they lose a small amount from the game itself, it'd still be worth it. There'll be a lot of people in the crowd who are there out of curiousioty and have nio LOI allegiances currenlty. A lot of non-nationals etc. All of whom could be converted to Bohs being 'their team' form the event. It's definitely worth trying.

It's also helpful for Bohs in planning what they do when they can't play at Dalymount during the rebuild. These events help them work out which games the Aviva might be an option for.

It's entirely feasible that by the time the 'new' Dalymount opens, its capacity may already be too small for Bohs. That's not to say it would be filled at every game. But you don't want a stadium that is always full - as that leaves you no room for growth. It's entirely feasible that they could be regularly selling out bigger games a few years after opening - which would mean the venue has become a limitation on them. The current process has taken so long, its capacity is unambitious, and the design mitigates against easy extension (or at least designs I saw did), that they could easily be back at square one again within a decade. Population growth alone here is such that we can expect a steady increase in LOI attendnaces across the board in the coming decade.

[EatYerGreens]

If they come close to breaking even its a massive win for Bohs. I would say there'll be close to 500 people there at their first Bohs game. That's is a lot of potential membership, ticket and jersey over time.

Definitely. I'd even say that if they lose a small amount from the game itself, it'd still be worth it. There'll be a lot of people in the crowd who are there out of curiousity and have no LOI allegiances currently. A lot of non-nationals etc. All of whom could be converted to Bohs being 'their team' form the event. It's definitely worth trying.

It's also helpful for Bohs in planning what they do when they can't play at Dalymount during the rebuild. These events help them work out which games the Aviva might be an option for.

It's entirely feasible that by the time the 'new' Dalymount opens, its capacity may already be too small for Bohs. That's not to say it would be filled at every game. But you don't want a stadium that is always full - as that leaves you no room for growth. It's entirely feasible that they could be regularly selling out bigger games a few years after opening - which would mean the venue has become a limitation on them. The current process has taken so long, its capacity is unambitious, and the design mitigates against easy extension (or at least designs I saw did), that they could easily be back at square one again within a decade. Population growth alone here is such that we can expect a steady increase in LOI attendnaces across the board in the coming decade.

[Shinkicker]

Definitely. I'd even say that if they lose a small amount from the game itself, it'd still be worth it. There'll be a lot of people in the crowd who are there out of curiousity and have no LOI allegiances currently. A lot of non-nationals etc. All of whom could be converted to Bohs being 'their team' form the event. It's definitely worth trying.

It's also helpful for Bohs in planning what they do when they can't play at Dalymount during the rebuild. These events help them work out which games the Aviva might be an option for.

It's entirely feasible that by the time the 'new' Dalymount opens, its capacity may already be too small for Bohs. That's not to say it would be filled at every game. But you don't want a stadium that is always full - as that leaves you no room for growth. It's entirely feasible that they could be regularly selling out bigger games a few years after opening - which would mean the venue has become a limitation on them. The current process has taken so long, its capacity is unambitious, and the design mitigates against easy extension (or at least designs I saw did), that they could easily be back at square one again within a decade. Population growth alone here is such that we can expect a steady increase in LOI attendnaces across the board in the coming decade.
I've said all along that the new Dalymount will be too small. Regarding the Aviva game,let's say they sell 20,000 tickets , 3000 neutrals and 3000 Pats fans. Then Bohs will have given an additional 11k-12k Bohs fans the opportunity to see a high profile game they normally wouldn't have access to.

[2 Year Contract]

I've said all along that the new Dalymount will be too small. Regarding the Aviva game,let's say they sell 20,000 tickets , 3000 neutrals and 3000 Pats fans. Then Bohs will have given an additional 11k-12k Bohs fans the opportunity to see a high profile game they normally wouldn't have access to.

You're inflating the Bohs crowd and deflating the Pats one with those figures of 14k Bohs fans and 3k Pats fans. According to Dan McDonnell on Twitter Bohs have sold double the tickets Pats have as of yesterday, with 17k sold in total. The Pats figure is around 5k sold so based on McDonnell’s update that’s 10k Bohs and around 2k neutral.

Would mean there being a 2:1 ratio of Bohs fans to Pats fans compared to a roughly 10:1 ratio if the game was in Dalymount which is a positive note for Pats I suppose

[ger121]

You're inflating the Bohs crowd and deflating the Pats one with those figures of 14k Bohs fans and 3k Pats fans. According to Dan McDonnell on Twitter Bohs have sold double the tickets Pats have as of yesterday, with 17k sold in total. The Pats figure is around 5k sold so based on McDonnell’s update that’s 10k Bohs and around 2k neutral.

Would mean there being a 2:1 ratio of Bohs fans to Pats fans compared to a roughly 10:1 ratio if the game was in Dalymount which is a positive note for Pats I suppose

I would hate to disagree with Dan but Bohs have definitely sold more than double Pat’s. Bohs fans have been buying tickets in the neutral sections adjacent to the Bohs end, which is larger than the Pat’s end. I would expect it to be a bigger ratio than 2:1 come match day.

[Shinkicker]

You're inflating the Bohs crowd and deflating the Pats one with those figures of 14k Bohs fans and 3k Pats fans. According to Dan McDonnell on Twitter Bohs have sold double the tickets Pats have as of yesterday, with 17k sold in total. The Pats figure is around 5k sold so based on McDonnell’s update that’s 10k Bohs and around 2k neutral.

Would mean there being a 2:1 ratio of Bohs fans to Pats fans compared to a roughly 10:1 ratio if the game was in Dalymount which is a positive note for Pats I suppose Pats fans as they seem
I didn't have any actual figures and i used the term "let's say" I used the 3 k number for pats fans as they seem to be actively boycotting the game . My point was, Bohs are giving fans who normally cant go to Dalymount the opportunity to se a high profile game and the new Dalymount will be too small.

[Shinkicker]

Just saw on X 12,000 Bohs, 6,000 Pats and Kenny asking Pats fans to attend, throw in 3,000 neutrals 21,000 would be ok.

[EatYerGreens]

Pats fans as they seem
I didn't have any actual figures and i used the term "let's say" I used the 3 k number for pats fans as they seem to be actively boycotting the game . My point was, Bohs are giving fans who normally cant go to Dalymount the opportunity to se a high profile game and the new Dalymount will be too small.

Is it a case of Pats fans actively boycotting the game? Or is it not more a case of the club not having a particularly big fanbase to tap into full-stop, for anything outside of cup finals?

What did they get for their European game(s) in Tallaght - fewer than 7,000? And Europe's a much bigger draw than this.

I suspect Pats now have the smallest fanbase of the main 4 Dublin teams.

[2 Year Contract]

Pats fans as they seem
I didn't have any actual figures and i used the term "let's say" I used the 3 k number for pats fans as they seem to be actively boycotting the game . My point was, Bohs are giving fans who normally cant go to Dalymount the opportunity to se a high profile game and the new Dalymount will be too small.

On Sundays match, this whole Pats fans boycotting thing seems massively blown out of proportion to me, amplified by Dan McDonnell on LOI Central tbh. A few mouths on Twitter are saying they are and good luck to them, but the reason Pats crowd isn’t matching the 2021 & 2023 uptake is because the cup final bandwagon that shows up for those games hasn’t seemed to buy into this league fixture given the justified negativity around the season ahead. 99% of the regular heads that go every week will be there and the ticket sales from Pats are currently higher than what can fit in a sold out Richmond already.

I agree that the new Dalymount will be too small for Bohs bigger games and doesn’t leave much scope for future expansion unless maybe years down the line (decades knowing Ireland) it becomes possible to build upper tiers to the bigger stand(s), here’s hoping anyways

[2 Year Contract]

Is it a case of Pats fans actively boycotting the game? Or is it not more a case of the club not having a particularly big fanbase to tap into full-stop, for anything outside of cup finals?

What did they get for their European game(s) in Tallaght - fewer than 7,000? And Europe's a much bigger draw than this.

I suspect Pats now have the smallest fanbase of the main 4 Dublin teams.

7,821 for a 3rd round conference league game last season, compared to Shels 5,675 vs Hacken and 4,503 in a must win game against Drita, (both in the league phase), would directly go against your thinking. The sell out vs Palace in a dead rubber game is an obvious outlier given the PL barstool bandwagon it attracted

[EatYerGreens]

7,821 for a 3rd round conference league game last season, compared to Shels 5,675 vs Hacken and 4,503 in a must win game against Drita, (both in the league phase), would directly go against your thinking. The sell out vs Palace in a dead rubber game is an obvious outlier given the PL barstool bandwagon it attracted

Good clarification. I apologise, and will elevate Pats to the status of the third-best supported of Dublin's 4 main clubs :D

7,821 for a late-stage European game of genuine consequenece would seem to undermine the idea of much of a Pats' boycott of the Aviva game. There's nothing to be won on Sunday, so it's just not as big a game. Their ticket sales are therefore probably about right for where the Pats fanbase is at if we're honest?

[Roones26]

Listened to Dan McDonnell on the Aviva piece. Like obviously some of the stuff he said would be pretty inflamatory here I would imagine but in the round I think his perspective is mine as well that opposition to the Aviva games is short sighted

[2 Year Contract]

Good clarification. I apologise, and will elevate Pats to the status of the third-best supported of Dublin's 4 main clubs :D

7,821 for a late-stage European game of genuine consequenece would seem to undermine the idea of much of a Pats' boycott of the Aviva game. There's nothing to be won on Sunday, so it's just not as big a game. Their ticket sales are therefore probably about right for where the Pats fanbase is at if we're honest?

The bit in bold is pretty much saying the same thing as I said below. The general fanbase that goes every/most weeks is what you’ll see on Sunday, plus a very low percentage of the blow in genre of Pats fan that will go to the cup finals to see them win a trophy, rather than heading to most league games or out to Tallaght on a midweek night to see a midtable Pats team get hockeyed by a Turkish giant, with the prize of winning being a spot in the same round they reached the previous year.


On Sundays match, this whole Pats fans boycotting thing seems massively blown out of proportion to me, amplified by Dan McDonnell on LOI Central tbh. A few mouths on Twitter are saying they are and good luck to them, but the reason Pats crowd isn’t matching the 2021 & 2023 uptake is because the cup final bandwagon that shows up for those games hasn’t seemed to buy into this league fixture given the justified negativity around the season ahead. 99% of the regular heads that go every week will be there and the ticket sales from Pats are currently higher than what can fit in a sold out Richmond already.

The challenge for Pats (and other LOI clubs that reach finals) is converting as many of those cup final bandwagon fans into regular league match goers. The increase in Pats crowds and regular home end sell outs since those 2 recent cup finals shows they’re doing well at it when you keep in mind the to the 1200 odd average crowds after the 2014 cup win. More work to be done though of course

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Listened to Dan McDonnell on the Aviva piece. Like obviously some of the stuff he said would be pretty inflamatory here I would imagine but in the round I think his perspective is mine as well that opposition to the Aviva games is short sighted

Agreed

[redarmyfaction]

The away section in Derry sold out pretty quickly, lots of people looking for spares.

[Shinkicker]

Derry will play Rovers, Pats, Shels Bohs and Galway at the GAAstadium. Wonder what the capacity will be and how close to reaching capacity they will get. If they are going well it's a great opportunity for them to showcase and attract new fans. On the other hand most GAA grounds are uncovered and lack atmosphere

[Jack B]

I think with Pats another point is that the club themselves haven't exactly been promoting it as they would a cup final or something of that ilk. Believe there was a point in mid-to-late January where they went basically a full week without any kind of post about it on social media, which is quite fitting considering the general mood of the fan base.

[culloty82]

First one of the season in from the RSC - 3232

[culloty82]

4127 at The Brandywell

[LTFC]

And Terryland 3027.

Derry above 4k a good sign. Equalisier will bring then back!

[Dermobohs]

20k sold now for lansdowne , great crowd and possibly get another 5 k on that, been a late take up in the last couple of days.
Great crowd I reckon, never thought I’d see it tbh

[ontheotherhand]

20k sold now for lansdowne , great crowd and possibly get another 5 k on that, been a late take up in the last couple of days.
Great crowd I reckon, never thought I’d see it tbh

Can it reach 25k with only the lower bowl open? Is premium open as well?

[RealJohn91]

Can it reach 25k with only the lower bowl open? Is premium open as well?
Yeah, it is.

[nr637]

First one of the season in from the RSC - 3232 With all the 3,000 seating taken up at the RSC, there seemed to be a big amount of the fans standing around the perimeter surroundings, well into the high hundreds adding more to that figure I suspect!

[refjohn]

Derry will play Rovers, Pats, Shels Bohs and Galway at the GAAstadium. Wonder what the capacity will be and how close to reaching capacity they will get. If they are going well it's a great opportunity for them to showcase and attract new fans. On the other hand most GAA grounds are uncovered and lack atmosphere

Celtic Park has a safety cert for 14,000 - maybe the question for Derry is whether it gets past half full?
Enough seats for all season ticket holders we are told. Other fans and away supporters on terracing (uncovered).

[Nesta99]

So the Bohs shirt is a replica one from the 70s, well its still not a good one. I love seeing clubs honour their past in such a way but adapt a bit if they dont look right in the current context. It seems the general consensus is that this one doesnt work that well.*Dya know looking at picss today its not as bad as my impression from the live game. Either its grown on me or the game in general influenced opinion. It is just a retro 70s look and no big sponsor helps. But odd for Kenny to be wearing a jumper that could have been a Bohs strip, certainly the colours, supersaint or not.

[Martinho II]

reason why Nesta SK was wearing that jumper was because of sad passing of Damien Byrne recently. Neil O Riordan explained this in the Irish Sun today.

[culloty82]

2103 at United Park3520 at Turners Cross1212 at the Carlisle Grounds

[culloty82]

1114 at Athlone!

[culloty82]

4323 at The Brandywell

[ger121]

Some decent crowds tonight.

[Nesta99]

Athone crowd jumps out, any particularl reason for the sudden jump in active support. Cork's better than much of last season - they only sing when they are winning! Derry need to justify the support and hope they have going in to this season, it has to be their year sometime.

[nigel-harps1954]

Athlone crowd was good alright, must have been 200 Harps fans in that though.

[listowelceltic]

Any figure Ucd kerry?

[culloty82]

286, which is decent by their recent benchmarks. 837 at St Colman's Park.

[nr637]

Athone crowd jumps out, any particularl reason for the sudden jump in active support. Cork's better than much of last seasoyn - they only sing when they are winning! Derry need to justify the support and hope they have going in to this season, it has to be their year sometime.Maybe the locals thought it was the Athlone Womens team that were playing at home on the night!

[Battery Rover]

Athone crowd jumps out, any particularl reason for the sudden jump in active support. Cork's better than much of last season - they only sing when they are winning! Derry need to justify the support and hope they have going in to this season, it has to be their year sometime.


https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1DkM7xvB1k/

[Martinho II]

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1DkM7xvB1k/

Great to hear. I imagine the likes of AC who used to post here will be coming back to matches so. I know him well from our days in Sligo IT together!

[Partizan]

2,131 tonight at the RSC for Waterford v Sligo.

[Nesta99]

2350 in Oriel tonight as per usual.......felt like the biggest crowd since the last day 2016. But maybe Ive been away for a while. Didnt hear the announcement but surely close to 4k?!

[thebronze14]

1010 FAI Connect has our attendance at. Felt like more

[ger121]

2350 in Oriel tonight as per usual.......felt like the biggest crowd since the last day 2016. But maybe Ive been away for a while. Didnt hear the announcement but surely close to 4k?!

I could have sworn Dan McDonnell had it down as 3800ish.

[nigel-harps1954]

Per FAI Connect:......Shamrock Rovers v St Pats - 7,573...Dundalk v Drogheda - 3,819.......Derry v Bohs - 4,434........Shels v Galway - 4,052.....Waterford v Sligo - 2,132.....Wexford v Cork - 1,219....Finn Harps v UCD - 1,010......Treaty v Bray - 912...Kerry v Athlone - 674

[outspoken]

2350 in Oriel tonight as per usual.......felt like the biggest crowd since the last day 2016. But maybe Ive been away for a while. Didnt hear the announcement but surely close to 4k?!
It was 3819. Shed was absolutely packed, great to see but it's a fierce uncomfortable place to watch a game when the crowd is that big. Squashed in likes sardines. They really could do with policing things a bit better that side. Schoolkids boxing the head of each other during the game

[Nesta99]

Havent quite lost it then, thinking it was close to 4k. At least the figure given makes some sense. If we add players and staff, stewards and ballboys, barstaff and match officials Im sure I could get it to 4k in Oriel tonight! Yeah I am still to keep my distance as much as possible in crowds with immunosuppression druugggs and that wasnt easy this evening and The Shed looked messy. I wass expecting to be able to stand up the back of the town end in meters of space but nope. No bar either when so busy which I would have liked to check out with the lads in running the show. I may have to smuggle in cans of some zero beer next time. Am I old enough to start complaining about not being able to stand in my usual spot and annoyed about how it was much better in the past while telling everyone how many years Ive been following the club every 10 minutes?