2025 Licensing

[culloty82]

Presumably the Premier and First Division licences will be announced in the week following the FAI Cup final, as has become tradition in recent seasons, the major questions being about Dundalk's status, and whether the third tier licensing will also be finalised at the same time?

[Kiki Balboa]

the major questions being about Dundalk's status, and whether the third tier licensing will also be finalised at the same time?

Will Dundalk even get a 3rd Tier licence ...

[Nesta99]

For Dundalk fans licence announcement day is going to feel a bit like a European draw day except the stakes are higher. Now maybe in the mean time there will be clues on how things might go like confirming the retention of Kilduff, pitch and floodlight tenders out. But until a PD licence is confirmed I wont be expecting it!

[CorribsideSteve]

If the License process was a driving test, Dundalk are turning up in Del Boy and Rodney's 3 wheeler.

[nr637]

Will Dundalk even get a 3rd Tier licence ...

Well you could say they have always had a 3rd Tier ground! :confused:

[pineapple stu]

What is the craic with Dundalk out of interest? I know Kilduff left (and maybe didn't) and there's various concerns, but is there any tangible reports at the moment?

[redarmyfaction]

What is the craic with Dundalk out of interest? I know Kilduff left (and maybe didn't) and there's various concerns, but is there any tangible reports at the moment?

Forget it, Stu. It's Chinatown

[Kiki Balboa]

What is the craic with Dundalk out of interest? I know Kilduff left (and maybe didn't) and there's various concerns, but is there any tangible reports at the moment?

We are going to win the league next year.

Which league it is, is still up in the air.

[oriel]

What is the craic with Dundalk out of interest? I know Kilduff left (and maybe didn't) and there's various concerns, but is there any tangible reports at the moment?

Seemingly a u-turn of sorts over weekend, as a significant US based shareholder flew in for talks and CK appears happier about funding / set up for 2026 now.

Would still imagine a lot of work required on the licence, new pitch and lights required (500K grant secured) but more will be needed to add to that, assurances of funding, away end, budget, players, its a long list, but if this was an application under Temple's remit alone and after his car crash podcast on Tues, it would have been a flat No in my view re the Licence, now there is a good chance as seems agreements are in place within the shareholders working together, and dirty laundry has stopped. Will this be enough to get PD one?

We shall see.

[pineapple stu]

Ah - so we're at the "All is well" stage I see :p

[Nesta99]

Oh sure there's nothing to see here at all, not even the civil war between fans on which was the least worse ownership option. Some people seriously dislike any yank association and if they were billionaire lifelong fans paying for a new stadium they'd be unwelcome.

[oriel]

Ah - so we're at the "All is well" stage I see :p


Nothing to see here, move along now folks (as they say)

https://www.dundalkfc.com/dundalk-fc-announce-two-year-contract-for-ciar%C3%A1n-kilduff

[Dermobohs]

It’s sounding a hell of a lot more positive now though.as for nesta’s suggestion about the billionaire building a new stadium, ourselves, harps or drogs would love to take them up on that !

[ger121]

Ah - so we're at the "All is well" stage I see :p

It’s only Monday PS. Who knows what will happen this week. Stay tuned Sports Fans.

[RealJohn91]

Treaty lost nearly a million quid in 2024 apparently. Crazy money for a part time team in a second tier.

[Nesta99]

It’s sounding a hell of a lot more positive now though.as for nesta’s suggestion about the billionaire building a new stadium, ourselves, harps or drogs would love to take them up on that !

But would the shinners involved not lose their sh1t along with all the other lefties? Im a selfish Dundalk fan, football is for football stuff. None of this Id rather be in the 1st division than owned by yanks bs. Maybe they share notes on the wilding of our respective ground...

[Kiki Balboa]

Treaty lost nearly a million quid in 2024 apparently. Crazy money for a part time team in a second tier.

How is that even possible?

They must have zero income streams. Crazy from Irelands 3rd biggest urban area.

Their debt is €1.2million.

Soccer in Munster is really bananas.

[joey B]

I think Treaty are putting significant money into their women’s team aswell,some losses accrued for a First Division club though and I’d say they’re not the only one…..

[Shearer]

How is that even possible?
Absolutely horrendous owners, that's how.

[joey B]

https://loitalk.com/dundalk-debt-130000/?fbclid=IwdGRleAN2LX5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHsEO6vaikfkl DAISknseTYcP0fI6KPJMhEtJ0DQmAKFgGP1EIaxXxkLwQ2bO_a em_6MqrbOjlsS1Mu3dqoVVO-A

Dundalk facing legal action from PlayrFit due to an unpaid debt of 130 k….

[outspoken]

https://loitalk.com/dundalk-debt-130000/?fbclid=IwdGRleAN2LX5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHsEO6vaikfkl DAISknseTYcP0fI6KPJMhEtJ0DQmAKFgGP1EIaxXxkLwQ2bO_a em_6MqrbOjlsS1Mu3dqoVVO-A

Dundalk facing legal action from PlayrFit due to an unpaid debt of 130 k….
If this is true it's absolutely disgusting. This isn't an Adidas or Nike it's a local sports gear manufacturer who make a lot of local GAA gear and school PE gear, 130k would be a huge hole in a company like that I'd imagine.

[Longfordian]

I'd assume they have a written acknowledgement of the debt from Dundalk, and that the agreement referred to would have been evidenced for licensing purposes last year. Smacks of Dundalk taking the risk that they could do another deal with a local supplier when they absolutely have to. Realistically the supplier won't get anything if there's no football being played but it'll be a more expensive deal for Dundalk now I'm sure.

[ger121]

Ah - so we're at the "All is well" stage I see :p


It’s only Monday PS. Who knows what will happen this week. Stay tuned Sports Fans.

That was even quicker than I would have imagined.

https://x.com/loipdnews/status/1985634856546562196?s=46

[D24Saint]

That was even quicker than I would have imagined.

https://x.com/loipdnews/status/1985634856546562196?s=46

Is this only be the tip of the iceberg of debt ? Hard to see them granted a licence with this going on.

[oriel]

The debt was 1.3 or 1.5M when Ainscough left, and most of this was left over from the StatsSports led regime 2022-2023. So that is the iceberg and it was well known at the time of near collapse in Sept 2024.

However seems clear this bill was accumulated during or most of 2025 and they are saying no payments made during 2025, so that's not good.

On Licence would imagine not every club has all bills paid, but obv DFC are a different case last few years, I think as long as there are payment plans FAI will be happy, that said again really not good to hear this, and they are a local biz also.

[Longfordian]

Reads to me like it was owed at the time of 2025 licensing and a plan was agreed in order to get the licence but Dundalk haven't stuck to it. I don't know who the kit supplier was this year but if it was this company I can't imagine they gave out any more gear on credit.

[Nesta99]

PlayerFit are a relative young company. I thought they were very ambitious to try to break in to kit manufacturing with so many providers but fair play to them they started small and built. Dundalk were something of a flagship deal when it happened. They definitely cannot carry that sort of debtor indefinitely. They would have taken payment plans in good faith and may even have extended that if the contract was to be extended. They would have gotten to the point of witholding gear on money up front before they put in their order to the manufacturer. I think the possibility of Dundalk just going to another supplier is where the crux lies and its understandable that they are now asserting themselves. I think they have been very patient and even the comments above are pretty tempered with a toned down threat that allows for sorting the issue than an absolute 'were seeking a winding up order'. I think it will be sorted but again not a good look! I am at a loss at how there seems to be a disregard for this supplier, SCARP was avoided to ensure creditors got paid rather than being burnt, this takes a leap of faith by suppliers and to not engage with them in good faith, as it seems, is just rubbish. If there is a soft touch in dealing with Dundalk FC in the last 12 months, it wont remain that way. Just fing engage with people!!

The plan - season ticket sales and merchandising prior to Christmas, sure that would keep the wolves for the door except that nobody would get the jerseys for Chrstmas and who would have bought season tickets for a club that may not have played a game without a lecense........

[Finlay Harp]

The PlayerFit debt could be the straw that breaks the camels back in this whole sorry saga.

[sbgawa]

I cant see the FAI not giving Dundalk a licence as they wont want the club to cease to exist but it could be a first Division one.
Making zero payments on the agreed payment plan is taking the **** and while i dont believe everything i see on paper if the guy is saying he hasnt been paid for 12 months publically i cant imagine he is lieing given DFC could go after him if it wasnt

[Nesta99]

Tbh I dont think debt has to do with licensing bar directly on footballing related staff, transfers and revenue. If there is a workable budget including repayment its enough rightly or wrongly. Its not a FAI thing but a business legal issue. Of course you need a kit supplier and who would take you on when another company is owed. I reckon the public statement from PlayerFit is a shot across the bow, pay up, let people know that significant money is outstanding. It will probably be paid but that is beside the point. More and more there it is hard to see any credibility with club admin. Not just for not paying but not managing the situation, the blame game is tiresome, I dont care who is responsible for creating the debt now, I want to see it being managed and there are ways to do it that dont involved SCARP. Its not insignificant money but its not winding up levels either. Its not can of worms t be opened again but have WRC orders been put be hind the club for example. Hopefully!!