Games weekend 25th to 27th April

[Shearer]

Same. From the outside looking in, he acts like a spoiled child and loves to blame everyone else and everything else rather than taking any responsibility.
A look on Facebook shows that they're turning against him. Easy to see he wasn't manager last year.

I thought they'd come good this year, I had them tipped to finish ahead of Longford and Harps.

[2 Year Contract]

Bray 2 up after 11 against Kerry. Kerry have made 3 subs in 16, 17 and 20 min.

With just 3 substitute breaks to use in a game to bring on 5 subs, that is incredibly thoughtless stuff to use all 3 within 4 minutes of each other, particularly so early into the game. Genuinely mind boggling stuff!

[pineapple stu]

Their Twitter says it was a triple sub - I think the times on the app just reflect when the Kerry official added the sub. They made two more subs in the second half

[Shearer]

Scoreline flattered Athlone last night, Treaty should have scored 3.

Treaty need to go on a run if they've any intention of reaching the playoffs.

Athlone were blunt up front. Everything Ben Feeney got was in the air and they were missing Dean Williams, Declan McDaid and Kyle Robinson.

[Zico]

The 3 subs after 15mins were all done together - one was injury enforced. The other 2 straight swaps (RB for RB and midfielder for midfielder), not even tactical or a formation change, just hauled 2 lads off, neither of whom were directly involved in the concession of first 2 goals or you would pick out as been the worst 2 on the field at that stage.

I would imagine change is coming fast -
The players body language says it all.

Fair play to Bray, some really good players with potential there. Billy O’Neill on the right wing looks very good. I would worry about them defensively though, last night could easily have finished 6-4.

[Dalymountrower]

That's all on Kenny. Absolutely bizarre management of the game.
The Pat's banner at the gamewas both inspirational and un Pat's like.
A collectors item.

[Martinho II]

The Pat's banner at the gamewas both inspirational and un Pat's like.
A collectors item.

Any picture of it Dalymountrower?

[2 Year Contract]

The Pat's banner at the gamewas both inspirational and un Pat's like.
A collectors item.

It’s the lyrics of a Pats song that has been sung for decades

[legendz]

I'm really surprised there isn't more talk about the manager down there tbh
It has been a long road for Kerry to get to LoI football. There probably has been a lot more patience than what would been tolerated elsewhere.
My own opinion is that Kerry need an experienced manager. How that is resolved and the make up of the management team can be altered with the budget available - not sure what to expect there to be honest. I don't think Keith Long will be taking on Kerry as his next project!

[Dalymountrower]

It’s the lyrics of a Pats song that has been sung for decades
Didn't know Pat's were wearing blue that long.
"Kick the **** out of you" is a real traditional toe tapper alright.

[2 Year Contract]

Didn't know Pat's were wearing blue that long.
"Kick the **** out of you" is a real traditional toe tapper alright.

National outrage as football song contains profanity!!!

[TonyD]

Didn't know Pat's were wearing blue that long.
"Kick the **** out of you" is a real traditional toe tapper alright.

Is that the “when we’re away in the blue” song ? To the tune of “ Can’t Take My Eyes Off You”. If so, then I think the “kick the sh1t out of you” is in a footballing sense, and not a threat of violence. That’s the way I always took it anyway, and yes it’s been sung for years, though I haven’t heard it in a while. Pats away strip was always blue btw, as far back as I can remember. Not a fan of the sky blue strip at all.

[Buckett]

It has been a long road for Kerry to get to LoI football. There probably has been a lot more patience than what would been tolerated elsewhere.
My own opinion is that Kerry need an experienced manager. How that is resolved and the make up of the management team can be altered with the budget available - not sure what to expect there to be honest. I don't think Keith Long will be taking on Kerry as his next project!

Give it to Roddy

[LTFC]

Men against boys tonight, particularly in second half from Dundalk tonight. Streets ahead of anything else I've seen in first this season.
Are Dundalk, or much of the squad still full time?

[outspoken]

Men against boys tonight, particularly in second half from Dundalk tonight. Streets ahead of anything else I've seen in first this season.
Are Dundalk, or much of the squad still full time?

Yep they just training in the evening

[Dalymountrower]

National outrage as football song contains profanity!!!

tt was a forty foot banner,
More embarrassing for Pats fans than anything else. But deflect away..

[Dalymountrower]

Is that the “when we’re away in the blue” song ? To the tune of “ Can’t Take My Eyes Off You”. If so, then I think the “kick the sh1t out of you” is in a footballing sense, and not a threat of violence. That’s the way I always took it anyway, and yes it’s been sung for years, though I haven’t heard it in a while. Pats away strip was always blue btw, as far back as I can remember. Not a fan of the sky blue strip at all.
Thanks for that info Tony D.

I remember a green Pat's away shirt and a navy and striped away.Thought the sky blue was only over the past few seasons.

[Another Bohemia]

Thanks for that info Tony D.

I remember a green Pat's away shirt and a navy and striped away.Thought the sky blue was only over the past few seasons.

Pats deffo had navy away kits for a long time because it always resulted in us having to wear our away kit in Dalymount because for some reason they didn't have a third kit. Granted you often hear navy referred to as Navy blue so that's still a shade of blue I suppose

[2 Year Contract]

tt was a forty foot banner,
More embarrassing for Pats fans than anything else. But deflect away..

Mother of god man cheer up, your team just beat Pats at Dalymount for the first time in 3 years, try to enjoy it rather than being offended by a banner depicting the first few lines of a song that’s been sung for decades by Pats fans up and down the country and is nothing related to your club

[Dalymountrower]

Mother of god man cheer up, your team just beat Pats at Dalymount for the first time in 3 years, try to enjoy it rather than being offended by a banner depicting the first few lines of a song that’s been sung for decades by Pats fans up and down the country and is nothing related to your club
You must'nt know many Bohs fans.
We are never happy!?

[Kiki Balboa]

Mother of god man cheer up, your team just beat Pats at Dalymount for the first time in 3 years, try to enjoy it rather than being offended by a banner depicting the first few lines of a song that’s been sung for decades by Pats fans up and down the country and is nothing related to your club

Sligo (and a fair few moaning posters here) got very upset against Dundalk last year for a banner in a similar vain (that had nothing to do with Sligo) last year.

Some people just love to offended.

[redobit]

Sligo (and a fair few moaning posters here) got very upset against Dundalk last year for a banner in a similar vain (that had nothing to do with Sligo) last year.

Some people just love to offended.

So you don't get how the second person writing style works then.

And for the record the main reaction was bemusement.

[oriel]

Sligo (and a fair few moaning posters here) got very upset against Dundalk last year for a banner in a similar vain (that had nothing to do with Sligo) last year.

Some people just love to offended.

I remember that banner 'Dundalk will never die, but you will' (was 6 days and first game after near liquidation), the YOU meant all of us, and we obv will.

[oriel]

Men against boys tonight, particularly in second half from Dundalk tonight. Streets ahead of anything else I've seen in first this season.
Are Dundalk, or much of the squad still full time?

Nice comments, but Longford were more than a match for us in the first half, made it very difficult, second half diff story obviously, and could have been 4. FT training should all show, but the lead is still only 3 points, badly need to beat Bray at home in a few weeks time to re-open a big gap.

[Nesta99]

If something proper gives in the next game between Bray and Cobh (probably a Cobh win) if we win also, then going in to the Bray game with the opportunity to undo their 7 game streak then the psychological advantage swings back nicely. It could happen but Im planning for Bray to win 9 and us to lose our 1st.

[LTFC]

Nice comments, but Longford were more than a match for us in the first half, made it very difficult, second half diff story obviously, and could have been 4. FT training should all show, but the lead is still only 3 points, badly need to beat Bray at home in a few weeks time to re-open a big gap.

I think first half was more a reflection of Dundalk being a bit off it - I got impression they had a right pop at each other at ht, and pulverised us in the second!
Any idea what Dundalk are likely to spend this season - definitey a few premier div players and premier div wages in that team!

[Nesta99]

I had heard a amount circa 11k pw, and more and less. Its a good 1st Division amount but some of the thinking is to have players that can step up next season if promoted rather than total rerecruitment in a bottomles pit of wages. We are a currently in yoyo club territory.

[LTFC]

I had heard a amount circa 11k pw, and more and less. Its a good 1st Division amount but some of the thinking is to have players that can step up next season if promoted rather than total rerecruitment in a bottomles pit of wages. We are a currently in yoyo club territory.

That would probably be a wages bill, so probably around 800k for the club - and in your case gates of 2000 would give you match day income of over 600k so a very doable 200k to fundraise.

[oriel]

If we go up, gates will move from 2k current to 2.3k or so home fans (maybe 2.5) then add in most games 500 min away fans for half the visits, and its closing in on 3k, I think 2.7k was about the avg recent PD seasons.

One things for sure, we will need to replace half the current squad, and that won't be easy finance wise, but also heard investment will come in, again IF we go up.

[nigel-harps1954]

To be fair, I'd say 11k per week is probably a combination of two or three other first division budgets put together.

[Nesta99]

To be fair, I'd say 11k per week is probably a combination of two or three other first division budgets put together.

It could be 3 or 4, take a Cobh spending splrge out too. Horgan alone isnt on a 1st Division wage and a couple of clubs would be operating on what would be more like expenses. It is a FT setup though evening training or not. Ive also heard about investment hanging in the wings to see if were promoted. We are going to have to have a very good manager and its very possible in Kilduff, actual crowd backing with a significant rise in attendances and some investment to get a licence and players to add to the development this year of young lads for next year if promoted- easy! Doherty moves on and we go poaching....

[Zico]

That would probably be a wages bill, so probably around 800k for the club - and in your case gates of 2000 would give you match day income of over 600k so a very doable 200k to fundraise.

As I understand with changes in solidarity payments (including 2 years of payments this year due to changes in timing of payments) Dundalk received the premier allocation (85% divided 9 ways) of circa €350k for 24/25 season paid in April and then will get €45k in Oct for 1st division allocation for 25/26 season. Every other club in first division gets €90k for 2 years of payments.
Quite the difference that also helps fund a full time budget this season.

[D24Saint]

Thanks for that info Tony D.

I remember a green Pat's away shirt and a navy and striped away.Thought the sky blue was only over the past few seasons.

The manky sky blue only started this year. Our main away colours had traditionally been navy. The current Umbro merchandise is really shoddy quality this season. I’m hoping we move on from them sooner rather than later. It’s the first season in a long time that I have bought no official merchandise, the design and quality is dreadful.

[DCSIL]

Sligo (and a fair few moaning posters here) got very upset against Dundalk last year for a banner in a similar vain (that had nothing to do with Sligo) last year.

Some people just love to offended.

Dundalk fans have been using that for years on Social Media and Posters, Wasn't there a Sligo Rovers SM post along the lines of " don't slip out of business on your way down" around the same time.

[Nesta99]

The outrage can be funny, its a national passtime and in LoI the cringe at own fans has its entertainment value too. Social media.....what would would it have been like during the days of chanting about the queen to Derry fans??

[Another Bohemia]

The outrage can be funny, its a national passtime and in LoI the cringe at own fans has its entertainment value too. Social media.....what would would it have been like during the days of chanting about the queen to Derry fans??

I've deffo heard that chant in the times of social media. But the Lizzie's in a box chant that got shels in trouble during their Euro game gives you a good idea of what it would be like.

[Nesta99]

Oh it didnt age and got rolled out but think latter 1980s and it really really wound up Derry fans at the time. It was a tad insensitive under the circumstances at the time so multiply Shels in Gibralter by a lot, if there had been social media....
But then its was been chanted by a section of the Dundalk support that would have seen themselves as total socialists yet named themselves the Mujahideen during a war with the forces of a country whose ideology they revered. Yes occupation, shinners blah blah. It got even more amusing when the younger fans latter 90s thought they were called the Mushahalee??? and then just shortened to Mudja. But full circle by the WoT of the 2000s so maybe it was genius....

Id love to see a book written on the origins and evolution of The Shed section of the Dundalk support thats not a focus on Linfield. The antics, stories, chants, good and bad and through to the SSA today and how they formed and ummm rebranded. Connections with other groups, how they really get on with rivals, real thoughts on pyro, fines, yarns, profile of characters of the years (add in a Mary McGelligot piece even - the original waving umbrella fan before Dalymount one). Itd be a bit different from player biographies or club history.

[Martinho II]

Oh it didnt age and got rolled out but think latter 1980s and it really really wound up Derry fans at the time. It was a tad insensitive under the circumstances at the time so multiply Shels in Gibralter by a lot, if there had been social media....
But then its was been chanted by a section of the Dundalk support that would have seen themselves as total socialists yet named themselves the Mujahideen during a war with the forces of a country whose ideology they revered. Yes occupation, shinners blah blah. It got even more amusing when the younger fans latter 90s thought they were called the Mushahalee??? and then just shortened to Mudja. But full circle by the WoT of the 2000s so maybe it was genius....

Id love to see a book written on the origins and evolution of The Shed section of the Dundalk support thats not a focus on Linfield. The antics, stories, chants, good and bad and through to the SSA today and how they formed and ummm rebranded. Connections with other groups, how they really get on with rivals, real thoughts on pyro, fines, yarns, profile of characters of the years (add in a Mary McGelligot piece even - the original waving umbrella fan before Dalymount one). Itd be a bit different from player biographies or club history.

Have to agree with you on this. Maxi the late Dundalk fan Im sure there was great tales from that era.

[Nesta99]

There were a few grimier moments. Id a work colleague who was in Tolka in the 80s. He said himself and a friend jumped down from the back of a terrace, one chap landed on the chest of a Shels fan with 2 feet, walked off, leaving him (hopefully just winded), went of an offie and got on a bus that didnt take them to the game to both booze and hide. As a grown up, rather than adult, with kids, he told me this sitting at work in LCC and says he has no idea why he bothered, regrets it and often wonder how the chap was. Im sure there are worse incidents but would love to get stuck in to having these stories recorded and see how they are thought of by the culprits in later life. As a kid I never got the fooking annoying 'taking the The Shed' then Dundalk shedheads charging to take it back over and over, my cousin got clobbered by a can of 7-up obviously thrown by some posh flash Bohs git. Maxi was more character than malice I think, So some nitty gritty stuff and todays Ultra motivations would be a good read imo. Would take a skilled writer to elicit the stories and truths even if anonomysed. That and how the groups evolved from the 50s say cause probably by the 70s it was mimicking England to a good extent. Like young Danny, head of the SSA and I think used to post here but how he ended up in his role and the forming of the SSA, why bust themsleves supporting something and why then potentially damage efforts.

[Stuttgart88]

I think I was at a different game ….. we controlled the game against an average hard working Shels team ( with JB again picking up motm)…. Had enough chances to score at least 5…. Shels in fairness caught us out very badly with two decent crosses which we should have cleared … aside from that they created nothing …. Also it was a good entertaining game ( aside from Duffs usual childlike histrionic behaviours; he’s doing a fine job but at this stage his sideline carry on is becoming an embarrassment )

We should be killing these games though. Ahead in all 3 Dublin derbies and 2 point.

Both Shels goals came from our RWB position. Grant culpable?