World Cup - Visa discussion

[pineapple stu]

I like my proofs, I do !
Do you? And that's why you almost immediately come out with -


The last 4 years was a shambles under Joe Biden and the Democrats ~ ~ Which is why President Donald J Trump is in the White-House now ~ ~ The Democrats are on 27% in the polls as it goes and maybe, going to go lower !
- with no proof whatsoever?

Gotcha.

Anyway, you were going to tell us what law these two people were deported under, and why it isn't a concern for the World Cup.

[seanfhear]

Do you? And that's why you almost immediately come out with -


- with no proof whatsoever?

Gotcha.

Anyway, you were going to tell us what law these two people were deported under, and why it isn't a concern for the World Cup.Were they illegally deported ?

[pineapple stu]

Certainly looks that way, in the absence of any reason to deport them.

And given you've repeatedly expressed the mantra of "American laws for America!", there's surely some onus on you to tell us what law you felt has been broken here?

[SkStu]

WTF is wrong with pot noodles?! FFS...

[seanfhear]

Certainly looks that way, in the absence of any reason to deport them.

And given you've repeatedly expressed the mantra of "American laws for America!", there's surely some onus on you to tell us what law you felt has been broken here?Obviously, one must assume it was for reasons that contradict the right to enter America ~ Unless ye are suggesting, that the American authorities broke American law !

[pineapple stu]

Unless ye are suggesting, that the American authorities broke American law !
I don't see why you're quite so quick to rule out the possibility to be honest.

[Razors left peg]

Obviously, one must assume it was for reasons that contradict the right to enter America ~ Unless ye are suggesting, that the American authorities broke American law !

The sitting President has broken American Laws a number of times

[seanfhear]

I don't see why you're quite so quick to rule out the possibility to be honest.Surely there are many vested interests that would love to high-light that if it was true.

It's not as if, America doesn't have plenty of groups / vested interests that would make a big noise about that, if it was the case.

[seanfhear]

The sitting President has broken American Laws a number of timesThe American People gave their opinion / verdict about all of that at the Presidential Election.

[Razors left peg]

The American People gave their opinion / verdict about all of that at the Presidential Election.

Doesn't change the fact that he has shown that he doesn't actually care about laws

[seanfhear]

Doesn't change the fact that he has shown that he doesn't actually care about laws
A lot of politicians don't care about laws ~ They may care if they get caught alright !

[Razors left peg]

A lot of politicians don't care about laws ~ They may care if they get caught alright !


But you doubt America authorities would break US law while knowing the American President has broken laws. How do you make sense on that?

Just last week the Administration ignored a judges orders to stop 2 planes from deporting people to Venezuela. The legalities are on the edge as they were told to turn any planes around that were already in the air, but they made the decision that because the plane was over international waters the ruling didn't apply. This is just one case where they are bending the law if not out right breaking it, so its incredibly naive of you if you think they won't break laws in their own interests

[seanfhear]

But you doubt America authorities would break US law while knowing the American President has broken laws. How do you make sense on that?

Just last week the Administration ignored a judges orders to stop 2 planes from deporting people to Venezuela. The legalities are on the edge as they were told to turn any planes around that were already in the air, but they made the decision that because the plane was over international waters the ruling didn't apply. This is just one case where they are bending the law if not out right breaking it, so its incredibly naive of you if you think they won't break laws in their own interestsThe immigration authorities are not the Trump administration.

[tetsujin1979]

The immigration authorities are not the Trump administration.
Are you saying the patient does not have control over immigration? Then who does?

[seanfhear]

Are you saying the patient does not have control over immigration? Then who does?
I reckon Trump and Co ( upper echelons of the administration ) have more to be getting on with, than some irrelevant punk band ~ ~ Maybe the band are spinning this for their own motives ? !

[tetsujin1979]

That doesn't answer who is in charge of immigration

[Razors left peg]

The immigration authorities are not the Trump administration.

So by that logic Joe Biden had nothing to do with all the immigration issues that MAGA claimed have happened?? To be clear, it was the Trump administration directly that decided to ignore the judges orders. Even today Trump himself has asked for the Supreme Court to overturn the order blocking further flights ... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/28/trump-supreme-court-venezuelans-deportation-gang/82504401007/

The mental gymnastics to say that Trump is not controlling the immigration authorities is beyond laughable

[Razors left peg]

That doesn't answer who is in charge of inflammation

Id advise seeing a doctor for that

[seanfhear]

Id advise seeing a doctor for thatDr Trump to see you now !

[seanfhear]

So by that logic Joe Biden had nothing to do with all the immigration issues that MAGA claimed have happened?? To be clear, it was the Trump administration directly that decided to ignore the judges orders. Even today Trump himself has asked for the Supreme Court to overturn the order blocking further flights ... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/28/trump-supreme-court-venezuelans-deportation-gang/82504401007/

The mental gymnastics to say that Trump is not controlling the immigration authorities is beyond laughable
Are they really interested in some irrelevant punk band ? !

[CraftyToePoke]

I reckon Trump and Co ( upper echelons of the administration ) have more to be getting on with

Ok but how are Joe Biden and Co responsible for all the lettings in but Trump & Co have bigger fish to fry ?

See what I mean ? Which is it ?
Seems to be whatever suits & whenever it suits.

[CraftyToePoke]

Are they really interested in some irrelevant punk band ? !

Why were this irrelevant band always free to come and go before so ?
What has changed ?

[Razors left peg]

Are they really interested in some irrelevant punk band ? !

You and I were discussing ignoring judges orders on 2 Venezuelan flights

[CraftyToePoke]

Anyway, it feels like I am attacking you now, which isn't my buzz and isn't what I set out to do.
I'm gonna exit this one.