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elatedscum
10/09/2024, 6:01 PM
Could be anything

5-4-1 with Ogbene and Brady as wing backs. Szmodzics on his own up top. Pack the midfield

4-4-2 Brady and O’Shea as full backs

5-3-2 with Knight or Browne at RWB and Ogbene up top…

Still great squad management to call up just 4 midfielders and decide to start them all :)

Eirambler
10/09/2024, 6:17 PM
Could be anything

5-4-1 with Ogbene and Brady as wing backs. Szmodzics on his own up top. Pack the midfield

4-4-2 Brady and O’Shea as full backs

5-3-2 with Knight or Browne at RWB and Ogbene up top…

Still great squad management to call up just 4 midfielders and decide to start them all :)

Right. This is why I was expecting McGrath, Azaz or Taylor to get the call during the week. Browne will presumably be moved into midfield at some point with Doherty or Ebosele coming on at RWB. But having two right wing backs on the bench but no central midfielders pretty much sums up the standard of management we have had in 2024 to date.

Eirambler
10/09/2024, 6:55 PM
4-5-1 with Omobamidele at right back. Good to see something different anyway if nothing else. Makes the decision not to call up any more midfielders even more baffling though.

pineapple stu
10/09/2024, 7:11 PM
Bit more life to this one at least. Nothing particularly incisive as yet bar that chance just now, but at least we're not 2-0 down and outclassed

Olé Olé
10/09/2024, 7:13 PM
Bit more life to this one at least. Nothing particularly incisive as yet bar that chance just now, but at least we're not 2-0 down and outclassed

It's better. Would love to see Ferguson 9 and Szmodics 10 but this can work. The two defensive midfielders would be fine besides someone else but beside each other they limit us.

Knight and Ogbene are enjoying themselves.

liamoo11
10/09/2024, 7:29 PM
It's better. Would love to see Ferguson 9 and Szmodics 10 but this can work. The two defensive midfielders would be fine besides someone else but beside each other they limit us.

Knight and Ogbene are enjoying themselves.

Excellent. Having periods going man to man working well. The fluidity of ogbene dropping into right wing back really nice.

pineapple stu
10/09/2024, 7:31 PM
Pity that one was ruled out - the offside didn't interfere with the great finish, even if it was clearly the correct call.

Bit of a dull game overall, though rather that than Saturday.

joey B
10/09/2024, 7:31 PM
Sickner for Ogbene,a great strike….

Eirambler
10/09/2024, 7:38 PM
Better. The players look somewhat liberated by an outbreak of common sense on the touchline in terms of setup. Even Brady wasn't that bad in that half, albeit he's an obvious weakness teams will target if the plan is for him to stay in the side. And to be fair to Heimir it only took him one game to figure out he was working with a pair of clueless spoofers and needed to take control much sooner than he initially anticipated.

pineapple stu
10/09/2024, 7:41 PM
Have to say, not seeing how Greece hammered Finland three days ago, who are currently 0-0 with England in Wembley at half-time.

Football is strange at times though.

texidub
10/09/2024, 7:42 PM
We're much better out of possession tonight. Szmodics doing great work there. Nearly another one for the Ogbene reel. Much better performance so far, even taking the diff in the opposition (comapred to England) into account.

zero
10/09/2024, 7:44 PM
right in it. game could go either way. haven't given up an early goal for a change.

Razors left peg
10/09/2024, 7:45 PM
I thought that was a good 1st half for a new manager... and this time it does look like a Hallgrimsson team. From shape to him constantly giving instructions from the sideline you can see this isnt an O'Shea set up.

We've kept things very tight, but we are keeping the ball well and not just aimlessly giving it away like we did at the weekend. Not creating a huge amount but enough that we possibly should have scored, especially with that Browne poor effort from edge of the box. Ogbene was unlucky, that was a fantastic strike.

Overall I would say its not amazing so far, but its a beginning... and as Joey the Lips Fagan once said " I believe in beginnings"

Olé Olé
10/09/2024, 7:49 PM
Better. The players look somewhat liberated by an outbreak of common sense on the touchline in terms of setup. Even Brady wasn't that bad in that half, albeit he's an obvious weakness teams will target if the plan is for him to stay in the side. And to be fair to Heimir it only took him one game to figure out he was working with a pair of clueless spoofers and needed to take control much sooner than he initially anticipated.

Fairly damning on O'Shea. As I said before, he had to have presented his proposal for England to Halgrimsson who clearly went along with it. The fact he presented that with conviction must be giving him concerns about O'Shea.

Regarding Brady, you can get away with certain players at international level as we know. Wales always seem to have a few passengers. I was about to say "limited players" but Brady isn't limited, I just think he's getting old and isn't a natural left back and this is international level.

There are options on the bench there now. Ferguson, McAteer, Parrott in particular. Scales and Doherty if we want to mix up a full back. O'Brien and Scales for a centre half. In the previous formation it felt like we had no options from the bench bar changing a centre half. There is a lot we can change up here if we need to.

Olé Olé
10/09/2024, 7:51 PM
I actually do think Molumby can be a good player for us going forward if he has a good partner. Beside Cullen we could get a much better midfield. He is loving the options out wide.

zero
10/09/2024, 8:00 PM
poor defending. disappointing. back to square one.

pineapple stu
10/09/2024, 8:00 PM
Well that brings back memories... :rolleyes:

Outside the box, no-one closing, not entirely sure if Kelleher saw it late or what happened. Houghton suggested he might have thought it was going wide, and then said he couldn't do anything about it, neither of which seems true.

ger121
10/09/2024, 8:00 PM
Another goal conceded outside the box.

Insidetherock
10/09/2024, 8:04 PM
Why the f*** do you back off, 20 yards out

Did it all day Saturday.. now this..

Even if they run with it and don't shoot, you've to engage them inside the box and risk giving away a penalty

So ****ed off looking at that

brine3
10/09/2024, 8:06 PM
Order has been restored to the universe

Colbert Report
10/09/2024, 8:06 PM
Brady lucky to be on the pitch after the elbow right after the restart.

brine3
10/09/2024, 8:07 PM
Is RTE Player always this crap when streaming matches?

joey B
10/09/2024, 8:08 PM
Hard to believe the amount of space he had there,a very SK goal !!!!

ger121
10/09/2024, 8:11 PM
Hard to believe the amount of space he had there,a very SK goal !!!!

Or just a very Ireland goal.

Colbert Report
10/09/2024, 8:34 PM
We're doing okay here. Ogbene is such a joy to watch.

Colbert Report
10/09/2024, 8:35 PM
Shouldn't have typed that we were doing okay. Nathan Collins taken to town there. What a clinical finish.

The Fly
10/09/2024, 8:36 PM
As unsurprising as it is depressing.

pineapple stu
10/09/2024, 8:38 PM
Early days yet for HH, but this feels very Kenny-esque. Decent start, couldn't keep up the pace, picked off in the second half, lost our way, no real cutting edge, ultimately deservedly beaten.

Two games in and already it's third (and a relegation play-off) at best.

The Fly
10/09/2024, 8:39 PM
I don’t want to hear anything more about transfer values either.

liamoo11
10/09/2024, 8:40 PM
Shouldn't have typed that we were doing okay. Nathan Collins taken to town there. What a clinical finish.

Nothing wrong with Collins there. Doherty is the issue gave up on it jogging back. Collins holds him.uo checks him back if doherty made half an effort he would have been back when the Greek checked back.

Encouraging overall. Molumby was a loss when he went off.

tetsujin1979
10/09/2024, 8:42 PM
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Olé Olé
10/09/2024, 8:43 PM
If I did what O'Shea has done here to my boss it wouldn't end up well for me. That said, Halgrimsson let O'Shea do this. He accepted a proposal from O'Shea for the England game that everyone knew was pants. He spent his time in the lead up to the game obviously preparing in the formation proposed. It proved to be pants and he has pivoted but he has had no time to pivot really and his plan B was to chuck on forwards and it backfired.

He is now left with two home losses by two goals each and the pair of them look rightly concerned in the dug out.

weldoninhio
10/09/2024, 8:45 PM
Is RTE Player always this crap when streaming matches?
The only thing that streams well on RTÉ player are the ads

the 12 th man
10/09/2024, 8:45 PM
Nothing wrong with Collins there. Doherty is the issue gave up on it jogging back. Collins holds him.uo checks him back if doherty made half an effort he would have been back when the Greek checked back.

Encouraging overall. Molumby was a loss when he went off.

It stemmed from Browne chipping the ball straight into touch,14 seconds later the ball was in our net.

The Fly
10/09/2024, 8:48 PM
Can we get that Irish player of the match award binned ffs! Cringeworthy stuff!

zero
10/09/2024, 8:48 PM
have to stop this motm for a home player stuff. hugely embarrassing for all concerned
I don't care who the sponsor is.

Razors left peg
10/09/2024, 8:51 PM
I thought we got much worse when Molumby and Knight went off. Didnt understand leaving Browne on.

That 2nd half was awful. I was relatively enthusiastic after 1st half, but 2nd drained the life outta me

rebelmusic
10/09/2024, 8:55 PM
This team expects to lose and the only solution is get rid of dead wood. Doherty and Brady in particular should be gone. This has all been utterly shambolic. If it wasn't for the U21 game I'd have no hair left (I know it wasn't the result we wanted there either but at least they gave it a go until the last kick of the ball)

zero
10/09/2024, 9:01 PM
morale on the floor after these two games. difficult to see a path forward. we give away such cheap goals on what is now a customary basis.

Eirambler
10/09/2024, 9:10 PM
Frustrating second half. Especially the lack of closing down for the first goal from players who should be better. Possibly Cullen being out didn't help there also.

A few strange subs also. Molumby has a lot more to offer than Browne so taking him off and keeping Browne on made no sense. Doherty coming on was out of necessity to have a full back who could attack when we were chasing the game. Always a high likelihood that would backfire though, he just isn't very good.

We've been dumped in a hole over the last four years through a combination of inept management trying things that could never work and the impact of having very limited players in the peak years of their careers. All we can do tonight is take the positives from the first half and see if they can be built on against Finland in what is now a massive game.

Nesta99
10/09/2024, 9:11 PM
Nothing wrong with Collins there. Doherty is the issue gave up on it jogging back. Collins holds him.uo checks him back if doherty made half an effort he would have been back when the Greek checked back.

Encouraging overall. Molumby was a loss when he went off.

I said exactly what he did when his number came up to be subbed. Didnt make much sense, was passing well, playing bals that created some of the best 'chances', looked like he had plenty in the tank too. He wasnt at all happy going off!

It feels groundhog day but as with SK building early on, the new man needs contact hours with the squad. There were glimpses of improvement in set pieces albeit less complex, beat the first man and balls whipped in. The difference was really the clinical finish compared to Browne blasting over the bar when similar space createdd edge of the box, one bad defensive decision to drop off and then caught out chasing the game with some laziness from Doherty not chasing back with Collins, a small number of errors work on cutting out overall. A late runner in to the box could have made something of Smallbones cutbacks, some anticipation.

I think we all knew it was a bit of arranging deckchairs on the Titanic but with a more pragmatic approach - there wasnt any heart attack football even playing it out from the back. Finland with a worse start so thats the bar to stay above....easy....

The Fly
10/09/2024, 9:15 PM
Essentially we’re really limited with what we can do given the midfield options we have, and there’s no way around that until better options emerge. The main job for this manager in the short term is to instil some confidence back into the team and root out the basic mistakes we keep making.

texidub
10/09/2024, 9:33 PM
Ferguson looked rusty. Would have used Parrott instead... been playing more and was scoring a lot in preseason. I thought at the time that the manager threw too much at it in terms of substitutions, but at that stage it was probably worth a shot. Molumby off was odd - he played well. Doherty atrocious for the goal.

joey B
10/09/2024, 9:33 PM
Robbie Brady playing all but 8 minutes of the 2 games really highlights how on the floor our options at full back are,Omobamidele doesn’t seem the answer at right back,Coleman and Doherty’s best days are behind them and at the other side what is coming through? O’Dowda or Scales could have been given 15/20 minutes but weren’t called upon at all,the bleakest area of the field for me which is saying something…..

Razors left peg
10/09/2024, 9:38 PM
Robbie Brady playing all but 8 minutes of the 2 games really highlights how on the floor our options at full back are,Omobamidele doesn’t seem the answer at right back,Coleman and Doherty’s best days are behind them and at the other side what is coming through? O’Dowda or Scales could have been given 15/20 minutes but weren’t called upon at all,the bleakest area of the field for me which is saying something…..

I just watched the 2nd goal again. Doherty watched the man that scored just run past him, and instead of busting a gut back to try help Collins he didnt get past a jog. Absolutely infuriating and unforgivable. These are things that just shouldnt happen, and you'd hope Hallgrimsson takes a looks at it and says I dont want that type of player in my squad.

mark12345
10/09/2024, 9:56 PM
Early days yet for HH, but this feels very Kenny-esque. Decent start, couldn't keep up the pace, picked off in the second half, lost our way, no real cutting edge, ultimately deservedly beaten.

Two games in and already it's third (and a relegation play-off) at best.

Another failed campaign, a new manager stuck in a swamp of old ideas, and a team that is getting worse with every passing game.
It's a case of "where is the tunnel" rather than where is the light at the end of the tunnel?

Fixer82
10/09/2024, 10:08 PM
This may not be popular to say but I think we played some really nice football tonight.

It was more positive than I’ve seen us in years.

There’s a lot of work to do but I felt like there was more of a plan. And I preferred the formation too. Think it suits the players we have.

I think Doherty’s and Brady’s days are numbered. More so Doherty. Brady’s attitude is right but his best days are behind him.

Omabamidele at RB is not an option either.

Jolly Red Giant
10/09/2024, 10:21 PM
I will say this once - when the f*ck will Irish defenders stop backing off a striker 20 yards out from the goal, allowing them an eternity to set up, pick their spot and strike the ball - and when the f*ck will a manager of the Irish team stop it from happening?

Jolly Red Giant
10/09/2024, 10:23 PM
Omabamidele at RB is not an option either.
Omabamidele is a CB - he shouldn't be playing RB - O'Shea should have been the RB.

Razors left peg
10/09/2024, 10:31 PM
This may not be popular to say but I think we played some really nice football tonight.

It was more positive than I’ve seen us in years.

There’s a lot of work to do but I felt like there was more of a plan. And I preferred the formation too. Think it suits the players we have.

I think Doherty’s and Brady’s days are numbered. More so Doherty. Brady’s attitude is right but his best days are behind him.

Omabamidele at RB is not an option either.

We did at times, I thought the first half was good and something to build on... but we didnt build on it in 2nd half of this game.

The one big positive from tonight is that Hallgrimsson did what we all wanted and took charge. Hopefully he has learned enough to be more decisive in the next window.