Games weekend 2nd August

[2 Year Contract]

Surprised Shels didn’t go for the game, massively cautious performance resulting in only 1 shot on target at home to 10 men for 60 mins

[Calcio Jack]

Best possible result for Rovers, its the hope that kills you.

Excellent result for us…. Big chance lost by Shels …. They seemed happy to settle for a point when they could have almost killed off a Derry challenge…. Slim chance now for Rovers …. And hopefully by Wed we’ll be reinstated in the cup and the double will be on ….

[Jack B]

Really disappointing game overall, thought Derry looked good despite the red card but they understandably ran out of steam. On paper the league is extremely interesting but it feels like there's been a real lack of consistent quality that is the root cause of it.

[da bishop]

Treaty are still in the promotion hunt. A creditable draw on Friday. Athlone and UCD are near certainties. Bray and Finn Harps are the teams to catch for those in pursuit.Your right,crazy to think still in the mix with only 7 victories out of 25 games playing some poor enough fare all season though it must be said recent performances have improved a bit.Played well v Cork the other night for well deserved draw but begs the question given the runaway leaders cant find a win v Treaty why are they in 8th position .

[brendy_éire]

Surprised Shels didn’t go for the game, massively cautious performance resulting in only 1 shot on target at home to 10 men for 60 mins

Yeah, didn't get that. If they'd have won tonight, it's our league challenge over (even if I'm still sceptical about it). A loss would be manageable. Still, a draw isn't too bad for Shels (or anyone else).
Thought Derry managed the match well after the sending off, which we can have no complaints about.

Duff seemed fairly wound up after the match with Higgins and Hegarty. Bit of entertainment there.

[Knocklyonhoop]

I don't normally post on this forum, I use it to keep in touch with news, but the penalty decisions against Sligo Rovers tonight were an absolute disgrace. I watched on LOI and have spoken to a number at the game and watched the highlights over and over. I'm sorry but the referee really has some questions to answer. If that is an example of the officiating we have at the elite level of football in this country, we are screwed. I have accepted dodgy decisions many times over the years in the past, but I genuinely think that you really have to question this guy. If he is not capable of reffing at this level then it needs to be addressed. A disgrace. I see some Pats fans at the game are saying otherwise. I mean, come on.

I think this is a general problem with the sport. In bigger leagues (that get paid for live coverage) or international tournaments…. Countless replays in post match analysis on fine decisions whether “was there contact?”. It’s a contact sport ffs. The grief I took from footballers growing up cos I played basketball “you play a non contact sport”. You watch the two now and only one do they fall over if they think there’ll be contact of if they feel a little touch.

yes, there was some contact. No way in the world is it a penalty

[Knocklyonhoop]

[QUOTE=Calcio Jack;2196218]Excellent result for us…. Big chance lost by Shels …. They seemed happy to settle for a point when they could have almost killed off a Derry challenge…. Slim chance now for Rovers …. And hopefully by Wed we’ll be reinstated in the cup and the double will be on ….[

hahahahahah!!

[oriel]

Did Duff blank Higgins at the end or refuse to shake his hand, if it was either he is one big baby. Pathetic stuff.

[joey B]

Higgins still firmly believes it’s a 3 horse race for the title anyway,looking at the fixtures over the next 5 games it’s still a long shot for them to make up the gap,away games at Dalymount and in Derry will be tests in the middle of European fixtures….

[joey B]

Did Duff blank Higgins at the end or refuse to shake his hand, if it was either he is one big baby. Pathetic stuff.

Don’t think he did either but something was said and it definitely wasn’t friendly!

[vinnie]

Don’t think he did either but something was said and it definitely wasn’t friendly!

No didn't blank him but said something to Ruairi and he looked like he was about to say did this midget say that to me, Ruairi is about 14 inches taller than him, so i'd like to see that match up

[SwanVsDalton]

Frustrating night. We can't get out of our own way, as ever. Felt the ref was quick to the cards but ultimately Todd did it to himself.

It was a tremendous shift, showing way more resilience than has often been on show so far this season, to get a point. But I thought Shels were woeful before the sending off and only marginally better after it. They were there for the taking and we let them off the hook.

Hard for me to imagine them going on a perfect run after what they served up there so hope springs eternal, but I'd be much more concerned about our consistency than anyone else's.

[brendy_éire]

Did Duff blank Higgins at the end or refuse to shake his hand, if it was either he is one big baby. Pathetic stuff.

https://x.com/nathanmurf/status/1820561401313731040?t=0GB1u3DsDT7cfUBtw54d9g&s=19

Duff not happy, but is he ever?

[Another Bohemia]

https://x.com/nathanmurf/status/1820561401313731040?t=0GB1u3DsDT7cfUBtw54d9g&s=19

Duff not happy, but is he ever?

Honestly not sure he has any reason to be unhappy. Draw is a decent result for them. He could be frustrated they didn't push on after the sending off to go and win the game but that's hardly Higgins fault. Was it even a particularly dirty game? The sending off was fine but I wouldn't have said they were particularly dirty tackles?

[Nesta99]

If everyone is talking about Duff nobody is focused on Shels not making the most of the opportunity or putting pressure on his side keeing their noses ahead. He is feisty but not stupid, method to the madness and its hard not to disagree mostly with his post match observations on officiating etc (imagine he was on the end of that Hennessy decision....). Wouldnt be surprised if Hegarty was the one stirring it up mind, he lays them and then blends in, albeit off the sideline he's a sound chap. Duff with O'Brien, a calmer individual is a very good manager and assistant mix.

[wonder88]

I thought Adam Ó Reilly for Derry was very good. Derry have better players than Shelbourne but being a man down they had to work hard, which may be the making of them and Higgins. I was sitting close behind the managers area and their was plenty being said all game, My take on it was that the Derry bench were determined that there wouldn't be another Dublin home town referring of the game after what happened on Sunday. And they achieved that.

[Nesta99]

Home town refereeing? I get much more the impression that they generally detest all LoI sides or dont give a fiddlers at best!

[desaintsno.12]

The reaction to the late penalty in inchicore is absolutely hilarious. Politicians sticking their oar in on social media and everything.
You arent allowed pull an opponents jersey. I appreciate the camera angle isnt great for it and likewise for people in the stand, but it happened. It might be softish, it might sting, but a sligo player pulled the jersey, I was right in line with it on the camac.

On a seperate note, I cant get over how p1ss poor shels and derry were on Monday - absolutely woeful stuff.

[Another Bohemia]

The reaction to the late penalty in inchicore is absolutely hilarious. Politicians sticking their oar in on social media and everything.
You arent allowed pull an opponents jersey. I appreciate the camera angle isnt great for it and likewise for people in the stand, but it happened. It might be softish, it might sting, but a sligo player pulled the jersey, I was right in line with it on the camac.

On a seperate note, I cant get over how p1ss poor shels and derry were on Monday - absolutely woeful stuff.

I agree it was a penalty, soft one but still a peno. My biggest problem is there seems to be no consistency on reffing decisions. We've all seen attacking players dragged to the ground by their shirts on corners and nothing given or worse a free out because the ref thought they were both at it. Something needs to be done about the standard of refereeing in the league. The issues are obvious every week but there doesn't seem to be any change from the FAI. I think there will be a strong push from many of the clubs to break ties with the FAI citing things like refereeing and the current issues with the Bohs v Rovers cup game as obvious areas where the FAI have made a mess of things

[2 Year Contract]

Home town refereeing? I get much more the impression that they generally detest all LoI sides or dont give a fiddlers at best!

Funniest thing about that comment is that Rob Hennessy is from Limerick

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/sport/593276/limerick-referee-to-take-charge-of-uefa-europa-league-tie-this-evening.html

[redobit]

I agree it was a penalty, soft one but still a peno. My biggest problem is there seems to be no consistency on reffing decisions. We've all seen attacking players dragged to the ground by their shirts on corners and nothing given or worse a free out because the ref thought they were both at it. Something needs to be done about the standard of refereeing in the league. The issues are obvious every week but there doesn't seem to be any change from the FAI. I think there will be a strong push from many of the clubs to break ties with the FAI citing things like refereeing and the current issues with the Bohs v Rovers cup game as obvious areas where the FAI have made a mess of things

Exactly. Whatever your thoughts on what happened in Richmond, at the end of the day the refereeing is just poor (and that's being kind).

One thing that I think clubs should be pressing the FAI on is the Referee Assessor at each game. I believe that the Referees are being assessed by their colleagues at the minute. If the assessor isn't a third party independent person then their opinion is open to bias. Robber Hennessy is the top referee supposedly in the country, no way an understudy or peer in the refereeing fraternity of Ireland is gonna go against him.

[nigel-harps1954]

FAI have little power over the referees. They're totally independent

[wonder88]

If we ever bring in VAR to the league of Ireland (hope not, its sport, human error is part of life), I think the assessors should be located on the Camac.
Be interesting to see what the red card and penalty figures are for the games in Sligo and Terryland this week.

[Another Bohemia]

FAI have little power over the referees. They're totally independent

Are they a completely independent entity from the FAI? I'm fairly certain the assessors are FAI assessors, the FAI run referee training courses and seminars, the FAI oversee the disciplinary committee so can overturn any incorrect decisions regarding red cards/suspensions (in theory). They might be classed as independent contractors but since the FAI set the rules, runs training and assess performance of them there's only so independent they can be?

[pineapple stu]

Home town refereeing? I get much more the impression that they generally detest all LoI sides or dont give a fiddlers at best!
I was at the Gorey v UCD cup game last month and a couple of Gorey fans were giving out about the Dublin ref in charge of a game with a Dublin team.

Some people just want a moan about refereeing tbh

[nigel-harps1954]

I was at the Gorey v UCD cup game last month and a couple of Gorey fans were giving out about the Dublin ref in charge of a game with a Dublin team.

Some people just want a moan about refereeing tbh

It's like the time I had a Derry fan giving out to me about a Donegal man (Paul McLaughlin) being given the refereeing duties of a Harps v Derry game, without realising all of McLaughlins family are big Derry fans.

[Nesta99]

Funniest thing about that comment is that Rob Hennessy is from Limerick

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/sport/593276/limerick-referee-to-take-charge-of-uefa-europa-league-tie-this-evening.html


I was at the Gorey v UCD cup game last month and a couple of Gorey fans were giving out about the Dublin ref in charge of a game with a Dublin team.

Some people just want a moan about refereeing tbh

Ive heard comments about Dublin refs for as long as Ive followed Dundalk and LoI and the only stand out home town refereeing was by a Dundalk ref and he slaughtered us in Oriel Park!! As the story goes, in the days before 4th officials, the match referee got injured. The referee assessor sitting in the stand was a Dundalk man and he had to tog out and take over refereeing the game. He made damn sure he couldnt be accused of home town bias!! Same ref did schools games and local leagues etc and had a memory like an elephant, I was yellow carded at U10 for being a bit gobby, told someone to F-off, walking on to a pitch at U18 that ref called me over to tell me he wouldnt tolerate any swearing. He knew every damn player and remembered who needed watching. Thats where refs can be quick to penalise a player - when they get a rep.

[brendy_éire]

It's like the time I had a Derry fan giving out to me about a Donegal man (Paul McLaughlin) being given the refereeing duties of a Harps v Derry game, without realising all of McLaughlins family are big Derry fans.

But then maybe because his family are all fans, he has to overcompensate when he's reffing us? Can't win.

[osarusan]

Bohs fans, how's Alex Grieve doing?

When he moved from St Mirren, I thought he'd do very well - he's a very busy player and drifts into dangerous areas.

But Wiki says no goals in 3 games so far.

[Philosophizer]

Bohs fans, how's Alex Grieve doing?

When he moved from St Mirren, I thought he'd do very well - he's a very busy player and drifts into dangerous areas.

But Wiki says no goals in 3 games so far.
I was at their match against Dundalk and he didn’t do much. He had one nice turn and shot from the edge of the box that was saved, but can’t remember him doing anything else in the whole game. If he’s that good he’d wanna start proving it fast because Bobs are in dire need of a proper no.9.

[Another Bohemia]

Bohs fans, how's Alex Grieve doing?

When he moved from St Mirren, I thought he'd do very well - he's a very busy player and drifts into dangerous areas.

But Wiki says no goals in 3 games so far.

From what I've seen he'll be a good player at this level once he settles. I think we're still trying to figure out what his best position is. To me he looks like he'd suit a wide forwards role I don't think he's an out and out no.9. He drops to deep for that and wants to get involved with the build up play. He does get into dangerous positions though so that will translate to goals sooner rather than later