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brendy_éire
06/12/2023, 8:29 PM
New Derry kit looks well - https://www.oneills.com/uk_en/shop-by-team/soccer/soccer-clubs/derry-city-fc.html

The huge white patch on the back really lets it down, IMO.

Martinho II
06/12/2023, 8:36 PM
Yes something similar Marty. Black stripes on the shoulders and kind of a light shade of red. Probably worn around 1992 or 1993 or so.
yeah correct!

Martinho II
06/12/2023, 8:36 PM
Fake news.

So who is it Mr Know it All?

2 Year Contract
06/12/2023, 10:44 PM
The huge white patch on the back really lets it down, IMO.

Fair point, though I see why they did it. Last seasons Derry jersey was very difficult to read the player numbers from a distance and on TV. Maybe a compromise would’ve been to keep the stripes on the back of the fans version of the jersey as it does look odd with it a number there. Overall the front is a cracker of a jersey though

Another Bohemia
07/12/2023, 9:58 AM
Fair point, though I see why they did it. Last seasons Derry jersey was very difficult to read the player numbers from a distance and on TV. Maybe a compromise would’ve been to keep the stripes on the back of the fans version of the jersey as it does look odd with it a number there. Overall the front is a cracker of a jersey though

This isn't a unique challenge and there's a couple of answers to how you handle it. Derry/O'Neill's solution is my least favourite but probably the easiest because of the red and white colours. Any team I can think of with red and white stripes have a similar solution. With red + black you can put white numbers on and it will be plenty visible but black numbers on red and white are a lot less visible. Could always go with outlined numbers? Black number with a white outline but that may be a bit of a pain for the kit person or whoever has to apply the numbers to the jersey. Or put the number on a panel and apply that panel to players jerseys? I know Bohs had to do that in the European games in late 00's or early 10's

2 Year Contract
07/12/2023, 12:15 PM
This isn't a unique challenge and there's a couple of answers to how you handle it. Derry/O'Neill's solution is my least favourite but probably the easiest because of the red and white colours. Any team I can think of with red and white stripes have a similar solution. With red + black you can put white numbers on and it will be plenty visible but black numbers on red and white are a lot less visible. Could always go with outlined numbers? Black number with a white outline but that may be a bit of a pain for the kit person or whoever has to apply the numbers to the jersey. Or put the number on a panel and apply that panel to players jerseys? I know Bohs had to do that in the European games in late 00's or early 10's

Yeah Derry themselves had to use a panel for European games this year too

https://www.sportsfile.com/id/2590644/

EatYerGreens
07/12/2023, 2:05 PM
New Derry kit looks well - https://www.oneills.com/uk_en/shop-by-team/soccer/soccer-clubs/derry-city-fc.html

It's very Southampton-esque.

Hard to do much different with stripes, but it's not a bad effort.

EatYerGreens
07/12/2023, 2:06 PM
The huge white patch on the back really lets it down, IMO.

Stripes make it hard to properly see shirt numbers though. Must be tricky for commentators who aren't all that familiar with the players.

culloty82
08/12/2023, 8:19 AM
Somewhat odd cross-hatching on the Kerry home kit, but the increased gold is a nice touch:

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EatYerGreens
08/12/2023, 10:41 AM
Somewhat odd cross-hatching on the Kerry home kit, but the increased gold is a nice touch:

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That's not bad at all. Though the pattern does look like something you would expect to see covering the seats on the DART.

Not sure why they need a new kit again so quickly though?

thebronze14
08/12/2023, 1:56 PM
That's really nice

culloty82
08/12/2023, 2:27 PM
The various trimmings at the back, especially on the away jersey, have also gone down well:

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Galway's home offering, also released today, looks very stylish:

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Another Bohemia
08/12/2023, 3:03 PM
The various trimmings at the back, especially on the away jersey, have also gone down well:

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Oh wouldn't be a fan of that on the back of a jersey, I get wanting to tie in to county loyalties and in an area of the country like Kerry it will certainly play well but I think it just looks like a weird blob on the jersey.

Surely they could have gone with a crown and the motto of Kerry underneath it (comhar, cabhair, cairdeas). It would play into the kingdom nickname and would probably look like a decent silhouette to boot!.

legendz
08/12/2023, 5:45 PM
Somewhat odd cross-hatching on the Kerry home kit, but the increased gold is a nice touch:

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I'm not a fan of the slogan. It's a nod to the Ultras I suppose. What was the influence behind the slogan? It's not like Drogheda United were kept scoreless or anything.

culloty82
08/12/2023, 6:55 PM
I'm not a fan of the slogan. It's a nod to the Ultras I suppose. What was the influence behind the slogan? It's not like Drogheda United were kept scoreless or anything.

Gavin O'Connor was a Bohs fan before Kerry were founded, so AFAIK it's just a straight translation of No pasarán from the Spanish Civil War.

2 Year Contract
08/12/2023, 6:57 PM
I'm not a fan of the slogan. It's a nod to the Ultras I suppose. What was the influence behind the slogan? It's not like Drogheda United were kept scoreless or anything.

Yeah it’s an odd one alright to go with on a jersey for a team that kept 2 clean sheets last season!

That Galway one looks class

Jd2793
08/12/2023, 7:04 PM
vast majority of the kits released so far have been excellent. that galway one is a cracker

2 Year Contract
08/12/2023, 7:06 PM
vast majority of the kits released so far have been excellent. that galway one is a cracker

This Drogheda away one certainly breaks that trend! Absolute stinker

https://x.com/droghedaunited/status/1733214968080732264?s=46

legendz
08/12/2023, 8:16 PM
Gavin O'Connor was a Bohs fan before Kerry were founded, so AFAIK it's just a straight translation of No pasarán from the Spanish Civil War."They shall not pass" is a slogan, most notably used by France in World War I, to express a determination to defend a position against an enemy. It was also used during the Spanish Civil War by the Republican faction."

Ah yeah, sure a bit of craic to be fair. It was the supporters first tifo. After the nightmare game in Galway, the slogan was on a tifo for Galway's first visit to MH Park. Kerry actually took the lead after about 40 minutes, before Galway scored just before half time. The slogan and tifo were a hit, despite Kerry's woeful defending!

culloty82
11/12/2023, 2:28 PM
Very tidy piece of kit again by New Balance for Waterford:

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SPXcyan
11/12/2023, 6:19 PM
It's going down well with virtually all Waterford supporters anyway, the logo part was overhauled which was badly needed, looked awful on last seasons kit.

Martinho II
11/12/2023, 8:16 PM
It's going down well with virtually all Waterford supporters anyway, the logo part was overhauled which was badly needed, looked awful on last seasons kit.

Is there a picture of Waterfords new kit boys?

culloty82
11/12/2023, 8:41 PM
The tweet of it should appear in my post, you may have to refresh before it fully displays.

Martinho II
12/12/2023, 8:13 PM
Seen the new St Pats home jersey imo think its a nice jersey but close friend thinks the yellow makes it worse!

2 Year Contract
12/12/2023, 9:26 PM
Seen the new St Pats home jersey imo think its a nice jersey but close friend thinks the yellow makes it worse!

I like it. Anything was going to be an improvement on the collar/neck on last seasons’ which I hated. The jersey sold out in a couple of hours too so it appears to be popular

brendy_éire
12/12/2023, 10:35 PM
The jersey sold out in a couple of hours too so it appears to be popular

Or they didn't order enough? Poor to be running out before Christmas, as it's a real handy present to get.

EatYerGreens
12/12/2023, 11:45 PM
Or they didn't order enough? Poor to be running out before Christmas, as it's a real handy present to get.

Or evidence of the dangers of using a large manufacturer like Umbro or Addidas? They're probably more interested in getting kits out for English etc clubs at the moment for Christmas. A smaller or Irish supplier would presumably have les of an issue with that, annd so be able to respond quicker and produce more for our clubs? (A lot of presumption here though).

2 Year Contract
13/12/2023, 8:53 AM
Or they didn't order enough? Poor to be running out before Christmas, as it's a real handy present to get.

Apparently there’s been unprecedented demand for it and they are trying to get more of them in before Christmas but as EYG says, Umbro aren’t the best with this sort of stuff unfortunately, particularly for Irish clubs. Great to see the demand though

Mr A
13/12/2023, 10:06 AM
The summer season can make things very for Irish clubs with kit. You're often working off the previous year's catalogue as the new ones come in February. Stock on the older stuff can be limited. Obviously the more you're selling the more likely they are to compromise and it may vary from supplier to supplier but we are still small fish compared to a lot of clubs they deal with and it won't always be ideal for us.

Larry 'da' Wyse
13/12/2023, 11:39 AM
Re: Drogs new strip:

Yikes! Looks like a window laminate in school jax that kids have scraped off with biros over the years ;-) Apart from that though ...

brendy_éire
13/12/2023, 12:56 PM
Or evidence of the dangers of using a large manufacturer like Umbro or Addidas? They're probably more interested in getting kits out for English etc clubs at the moment for Christmas. A smaller or Irish supplier would presumably have les of an issue with that, annd so be able to respond quicker and produce more for our clubs? (A lot of presumption here though).

Fair point. O'Neill's seem ideal for Derry in that regard. Stuff is only coming from Strabane, not the Far East.

EatYerGreens
13/12/2023, 2:49 PM
Fair point. O'Neill's seem ideal for Derry in that regard. Stuff is only coming from Strabane, not the Far East.

I can see O'Neills becoming the longer-term supplier of all the bigger clubs in the LOI. Simply because they're prepared to put considerable effort in.

If you look at Bohs, for exmple. There's no way Addidas, Nike or Umbro would have indulged them with the various Marley, Palestine, Dublin Bus, Hospital etc shirts they've done in recent years. Unless you're a really big club, those other suppliers will expect you to pick a shirt design from their catalogue. They won't do you a bespoke one like O'Neills will. O'Neills also provide a much broader range of items beyond the shirts as well - again, way more than any of the big kit suppliers would do for an Irish club.

We just need O'Neills to open up more town centre shops, which would then remove the need for any LOI club they supply to have its own retail outlet. O'Neills have stores in almost every county up north, but the only one I can think of anywhere else is the Long Mile Road one that's part of their offices/factory in Walkinstown (with the big ball on the roof).

oriel
13/12/2023, 8:56 PM
This Drogheda away one certainly breaks that trend! Absolute stinker

https://x.com/droghedaunited/status/1733214968080732264?s=46

Drogs away is horrific, looks more like a warm up top, their home one on the other hand is really nice, clean and fresh as they say.

SPXcyan
15/12/2023, 7:53 AM
The kit has gone down well enough at the club that a record amount of jerseys were sold in the just the first day, interesting.

I think as of now the Galway home jersey is my favourite.

brendy_éire
16/12/2023, 10:31 AM
We just need O'Neills to open up more town centre shops, which would then remove the need for any LOI club they supply to have its own retail outlet. O'Neills have stores in almost every county up north, but the only one I can think of anywhere else is the Long Mile Road one that's part of their offices/factory in Walkinstown (with the big ball on the roof).

Yeah, only one in the south, strangely. Even the likes of Magherafelt in County Derry has one, but nothing in central Dublin or Cork.

O'Neill's do take a decent cut of the profits from merchandise they sell in their shops. Derry always encourage fans to buy direct from the club.
That said, even with the cut, having a shop in the centre of town, open seven days a week is something no other kit manufacturer can compete with.

Longfordian
18/12/2023, 7:32 PM
New centenary kits from LTFC for 2024. Home one is quite smart, away one I wouldn't be a massive fan of.

https://twitter.com/LongfordTownFC/status/1736838744555082233?t=uzfjvOFtdakOv5b8pir3GA&s=19

Martinho II
18/12/2023, 8:02 PM
New centenary kits from LTFC for 2024. Home one is quite smart, away one I wouldn't be a massive fan of.

https://twitter.com/LongfordTownFC/status/1736838744555082233?t=uzfjvOFtdakOv5b8pir3GA&s=19

Think the home kit is rank. Like the collar but the middle of is ruined by the shading. Town whatsapp group Im in the majority of us hate it! Like the away jersey.

LTFC
18/12/2023, 8:49 PM
Our new kit came out tonight, jersey a throwback to design of 100 years ago so not our red and black stripes. Not to everyone's taste, but I like it!

outspoken
18/12/2023, 8:58 PM
Our new kit came out tonight, jersey a throwback to design of 100 years ago so not our red and black stripes. Not to everyone's taste, but I like it!

The away is a proper throw back too. I stopped buying jerseys a few years back but will definitely be getting both of these

total hoofball
18/12/2023, 10:52 PM
Or evidence of the dangers of using a large manufacturer like Umbro or Addidas? They're probably more interested in getting kits out for English etc clubs at the moment for Christmas. A smaller or Irish supplier would presumably have les of an issue with that, annd so be able to respond quicker and produce more for our clubs? (A lot of presumption here though).
Rovers just announced today they have got stung by Umbro for their new training and leisurewear which were due to be out this week

https://www.shamrockrovers.ie/2023/12/18/delay-in-umbro-re-stock/

EatYerGreens
18/12/2023, 11:15 PM
Rovers just announced today they have got stung by Umbro for their new training and leisurewear which were due to be out this week

https://www.shamrockrovers.ie/2023/12/18/delay-in-umbro-re-stock/

There have been multiple examples over the years of the big kit suppliers shafting LOI clubs. We're just not at all important to them. They probably sell more shirts for a top English club in one day than they would for a top Irish club in an entire year. Hence I predict that LOI clubs will slowly but surely all gravitate towards O'Neills.

Rovers should tell Umbro to feck off at the end of next seaosn for this - contract or not. This will have cost them money (and potentially youth support too).

sbgawa
19/12/2023, 6:20 AM
Second year in a row and I feel like because the club announced it this time they are rightly ****ed off and wanted it put out there

placid casual
19/12/2023, 6:46 AM
I'm guessing it was announced as there has been a tradition for a number of years of Rovers fans getting Christmas presents for kids/nephew's etc in the Rovers clubshop and it needed a heads up message. It's bad form from umbro anyway you look at it

Shinkicker
19/12/2023, 7:32 AM
I'm guessing it was announced as there has been a tradition for a number of years of Rovers fans getting Christmas presents for kids/nephew's etc in the Rovers clubshop and it needed a heads up message. It's bad form from umbro anyway you look at it
I don't see how this should be a problem for any manufacturer. LOI play from Feb to Nov with new kits out late Nov early Dec. All or most other leagues release their new kits in June, July.

ontheotherhand
19/12/2023, 7:33 AM
Umbro have been a disaster for a while. Home jersey is awful this year as well so hopefully the club cop on a bit and make a switch.

Those Longford jerseys are the worst I've ever seen all the same.

Derry away is the nicest so far but there's a few belters this season.

2 Year Contract
19/12/2023, 8:10 AM
Rovers just announced today they have got stung by Umbro for their new training and leisurewear which were due to be out this week

https://www.shamrockrovers.ie/2023/12/18/delay-in-umbro-re-stock/

If it’s anything as bad as the designs on the pats training/leisurewear then it’s no loss at all. Truly horrendous looking. I think the home jersey is nice but the rest of their gear is shocking this year

Another Bohemia
19/12/2023, 9:23 AM
You would have to wonder if it's worthwhile for the league clubs to band together and look for a collective merchandise deal. Could mean a bit more money for the smaller clubs but overall a bigger fish for the manufacturers which could mean better templates to chose from, fewer logistical issues etc. The only potential issue would be if clubs would want to give up their own deals for something like this.

EatYerGreens
19/12/2023, 12:01 PM
I don't see how this should be a problem for any manufacturer. LOI play from Feb to Nov with new kits out late Nov early Dec. All or most other leagues release their new kits in June, July.

It's a Christmas thing.

People don't just buy new shirts at the start of the season/when they're released. A tonne will be sold at Christmas time too - particularly to none hardcore fans. So Umbro will prioritise the big clubs in their pre-Christmas production schedule. Could you imagoine Umbro telling West Ham the same thing they've just told Rovers? Zero chance of that. They'll feck over an Irish clubm but not one of their big clients.

Rovers should ditch Umbro for this at the first opportunnity.

Dermobohs
19/12/2023, 12:07 PM
Umbro have been a disaster for a while. Home jersey is awful this year as well so hopefully the club cop on a bit and make a switch.

Those Longford jerseys are the worst I've ever seen all the same.

Derry away is the nicest so far but there's a few belters this season.
You wouldn’t mind but Jon Courtney is a supposed rovers fan himself. Bohs used to have awful service from them too, nice gear but unavailable. O Neil’s is top quality and we have a smashing range of new gear for Xmas in the club shop. Best suppliers we’ve ever had, and the look and quality is excellent.

culloty82
19/12/2023, 12:12 PM
Of course last season, Kerry's New Balance gear literally arrived at the last minute, but words were evidently had, given how promptly everything was organised this time around.