LOI Matches 2nd - 7th November 2021

[ontheotherhand]

All the way to Waterford to do that, get slapped by your own fans, get thrown out and then hopefully get banned for life and charged with a criminal offense. What goes through these dopes heads?

Dylan Watts hit by something thrown from the crowd as he was coming out for the second half as well. Is it a full moon?

[Calcio Jack]

Bradley banged on all week about widening the points gap , maintaining performance levels blah blah blah…. So far a pathetic lethargic error strewn ( aside from Lopes) performance …. Bradley set the bar low by leaving Finn, Towell and Gaffney out of the squad and Mannus on the bench …. Complete disrespect and even if we get a draw/win not good enough

Glad to see my message got through…. That’s why Bradley is manager and I’m not 😆

[Straightstory]

Meanwhile -on LOI TV, all communication has been lost with Donegal.

[sbgawa]

Doing our bit for Harps

[Straightstory]

Thankfully, communication has now been restored.

[osarusan]

Rovers are so far ahead the FAI could even come in with say a 5-point deduction - won't change anything for Rovers, but would be a real deterrent going forward.

But I'm not sure that they could fully reconcile that with the fact that they haven't docked points for flares on pitches before.

[DCSIL]

Fair Result in Ballybofey, neither of us deserved to win.

[SPXcyan]

A comfortable 1-3 wins for Rovers at the RSC.

[pineapple stu]

Could Dundalk actually sneak Europe yet?

Home to Longford and Derry. Win those two, Bohs drop three points or more in the run-in (against Rovers and Rovers), Pat's win the Cup and that's about it.

Would be a suitable end to a weird season

[oriel]

Could Dundalk actually sneak Europe yet?

Home to Longford and Derry. Win those two, Bohs drop three points or more in the run-in (against Rovers and Rovers), Pat's win the Cup and that's about it.

Would be a suitable end to a weird season

I would say unlikely, although its possible !

In short with the GD (Derry + 4 v DFC -3), Derry really only need to beat Sligo at home next week, then they go on 51 points, that will probably oust Dundalk, even if we win last 2 which includes last day v Derry (we are currently on 45), but after Sligo winning 3-0 tonight, plus they have a good record in BW (I think), who knows.

Bohs abs not out of the running either, but they may have eye off the ball with cup final.

Unless Dundalk go on big scoring win v Longford, but we have yet to beat them this season !

If Bohs lose one, or drop other points, Derry fail to beat Sligo, then Dundalk win last 2, we could nick 4th, but too many IFS and BUTS for me, plus it could all be for nothing as the cup final is 50/50, Bohs win it, 4th place becomes N/A.

[Straightstory]

Drogs look safe now thanks to their superior goal difference. Even if they lost their last two matches, it would take both Harps and Waterford to each win their remaining games to overtake them. Not impossible, but unlikely.

[pineapple stu]

I would say unlikely, although its possible !

In short with the GD (Derry + 4 v DFC -3), Derry really only need to beat Sligo at home next week,
Even that's far from a gimme given Sligo have suddenly worked out how to win again.

A draw in that for example and it's a nervy last day for both sides

[oriel]

Gob****es pure and simple.


Scum element of DFC fans threw one at Peter Cherrie (direction) in the cup semi v Pats 2 weeks ago, abs morons the lot of them, at all clubs, but that didn't look good tonight.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Great win for us tonight. Rode our luck a bit at times in the second half but we could have scored a few more on the break. Great to get back into Europe next year where we will no doubt embarrass ourselves again.

I would imagine we’ll be doing well to get 11 sober players on the pitch next week.

Great away support as well. Love going to Inchicore even if we very rarely win there.

[ontheotherhand]

Just saw a post highlighting that Waterford are now in the playoff spot due to being 7 goals being Harps on GD......For the sake of the Waterford U19s I hope they can at least improve the GD....

[D24Saint]

Great win for us tonight. Rode our luck a bit at times in the second half but we could have scored a few more on the break. Great to get back into Europe next year where we will no doubt embarrass ourselves again.

I would imagine we’ll be doing well to get 11 sober players on the pitch next week.

Great away support as well. Love going to Inchicore even if we very rarely win there.

Sligo deserved their win tonight. We were lacklustre overall and made some awful mistakes. We did have a spell in the second half but failed to capitalise. It’s concerning that second isn’t wrapped up. We have a decent squad overall but need a striker badly. I don’t like Coughlan at all, and the Reading lad NML is hopeless. He won’t make it IMO and will end up in non league football in the UK. Without second secured we can’t solely focus on the cup final which would have been the ideal scenario.

[joey B]

Poor game in Finn Park,no suprise both goals came from set pieces,Harps had the better of the first half,Derry the second,Boyle went from hero to zero in 3 minutes,scoring then giving away a penalty,nervy last 2 weeks now….

[vinnie]

The commentator said the stewards did eject the offenders

Both have been arrested by Gardaí

[Nesta99]

Sligo deserved their win tonight. We were lacklustre overall and made some awful mistakes. We did have a spell in the second half but failed to capitalise. It’s concerning that second isn’t wrapped up. We have a decent squad overall but need a striker badly. I don’t like Coughlan at all, and the Reading lad NML is hopeless. He won’t make it IMO and will end up in non league football in the UK. Without second secured we can’t solely focus on the cup final which would have been the ideal scenario.

Saving it for the cup final, Europe secured already so no need to bust a gut in the league. Stuff in the RSC is horrible, any time around Halloween has the risk of some dirtbags in grounds doing this. Few weeks ago in Oriel a firework was launched from the back of the shed though it was one that just went bang rather than sending 'flares' widely over a pitch. More good luck on behalf of Dundalk than anything so no moral high ground should be taken. These fireworks, flares, cans and bottles of beer are not small, so how are they smuggled in especially at away grounds. At home, especially with drink, stewards turn a blind eye if you pardon the pun considering. Security V Bohs is going to really need to be on their game not to compound things. With Rovers so far ahead it may ot be the worst suggestion to deduct points, closing sections of a ground would send out a message but would be harsh too. Fines mean nothing to these scumbags, unless identified and banned what do the FAI or clubs do to really stamp this out. Registering with ID for away tickets? even for a set amount of games.

[Nesta99]

Both have been arrested by Gardaí

That at least! There was a case ages back were some idiot caused hassle in Oriel with away fans, was arrested, charged and then in court the judge dismissed the case due to the incident not happening in a public area and that it was an internal club issue to be dealt with.

Looking like 5th is as good as we could recover to with GD probably separating sides in the end.

Bircham didnt hold back the critcism of his players. More like the old self which he seemed to have dropped until tonight -'"[I’m] disgusted in my players...We don’t deserve to stay up, if we defend set-pieces like that we don’t deserve to be in the league...the players know who they are, those that have let us down.....It’s disgusting, they’re not doing their jobs".

[PartySaint]

Longer video on the Waterford twitter where you can see it being let off in the back of the stand. That has to warrant a criminal investigation surely?

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I saw someone on twitter describe Rovers as a club with no class, that pretty much sums them up. I’m sure the guy who let the fireworks off will walk into Tallaght with no issue for their next home game.

[ontheotherhand]

1 or 2 dopes sum up an entire football club now? We are all ******ed in that case.

Well, maybe not Harps. Sound to a man up there.

[sullanefc]

1 or 2 dopes sum up an entire football club now? We are all ******ed in that case.

No, but their failure to come out and condemn the actions of those idiotic fans is fairly pathetic.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

The same 1 or 2 dopes seem to go to most away games

[D24Saint]

No, but their failure to come out and condemn the actions of those idiotic fans is fairly pathetic.

That would be more the point. I don’t think any club can throw stones about a few low life fans but their actions should be condemned by the football club when they get out of line.

[trevy]

Crazy scenes in the RSC last night. These fireworks and flares have been getting out of hand lately and security needs to be better at stopping people bringing in to grounds as someone will be badly injured soon.
Rovers dominated the game after Waterford took the lead after a mix up between goalkeeper and defender.
We held on till the 2nd half until 2 more goals conceded from set pieces set Rovers up for the win.
Mandriou wrapped it up in injury time after getting in behind Waterford defence and finishing well.
Waterford in relegation play off spot on goal difference after the 7 0 defeat v Drogheda when we fielded our under 19s earlier in season after Covid cases ruled out first team.
Both us and Finn Harps have Longford and St Pats for last 2 games.

[Nesta99]

No, but their failure to come out and condemn the actions of those idiotic fans is fairly pathetic.

They should be quicker in condemning it but playing devils advocate - condemning before knowing the full situation could be the reasoning, a statement then prepared that includes that culprits will be banned, there is some liability on the home club to have adequate security eg searching for fireworks entering the ground, its a stretch here but its not unknown for non fans or fans of other clubs to do this stuff to damage a clubs rep, waiting to see if they are charged by Gardai is possible. In this era we expect instant info/response on things like this, but its quite token like unless it includes what has happened to the culprits. There are times you wonder how certain people are allowed access to club social media without posts being checked, maybe its the procedure to do so at Rovers. Or of course their surname could be Roche, Bradley or the like and the adults are fuming wondering how to manage this. Bottom like is this could be any club, as mentioned a firework was fired over the heads of players in Oriel recently only it was a less 'dramatic' type of rocket - i dont think there was a statement on it, like wise with smoking RTE out of the gantry and the delay due to waiting from the go ahead from Chicago or Florida.

(trouble does seem to follow Rovers around more than most, especially at away games so maybe people banned from Tallaght?)

[sbgawa]

In fairness to whatever lad is doing match updates on the club twitter account i don't think its up to him to respond
Id be surprised if the club don't put out something comprehensive after the weekend having spoken to guards etc including whats happening to the muppets

Every club has its selection of muppets Dundalk coach got stoned leaving inchicore a couple of weeks ago, flares in Dalymount etc etc
That's not whataboutery its just a fact and this incident involving fireworks is definitely off the scale but i don't know there is much more all the clubs can do
Rovers have banned dozens from Tallaght over the last few years and it has helped but their always seems to be another gob****e waiting

Sligo winning two in a row would have looked unexpected a couple of weeks ago but im happy for Bucko and with a bit more european money next year it could be an interesting season, if they manage the downturns better

Danny on 14 goals for the season from midfield same amount from play as Georgie Kelly.

[sullanefc]

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sullanefc said:
06/11/2021 10:25 AM

They should be quicker in condemning it but playing devils advocate - condemning before knowing the full situation could be the reasoning, ....
I'll stop you right there. They can "condemn the actions" and say "they are investigating". You don't need to know all the facts to release that sort of statement. It's poor from Shamrock.

[pineapple stu]

In fairness to whatever lad is doing match updates on the club twitter account i don't think its up to him to respond
Don't agree with that. He's reporting on the match - goals, chances, subs, suspended play - the lot.


18 - Game suspended. The ref has taken both teams off the pitch after a Waterford player appeared to be hit by one of a series of fireworks let off from the away end. Worrying scenes here in the RSC
Up front about what happened - and the severity of it - while leaving open the possibility that it'll turn out to her a disgruntled UCD knacker sneaking into the away end in protest at robbing Whelan/Kerrigan from us.

[pineapple stu]

Great win for us tonight. Rode our luck a bit at times in the second half but we could have scored a few more on the break. Great to get back into Europe next year where we will no doubt embarrass ourselves again.
Watched the second half and actually what jumped out was how bad the finishing from both sides was, and how that's often cited as the LoI's big weakness in Europe.

Still, rather in Europe than not I guess!

[thebronze14]

Rovers fans always say it's one or two idiots as they cause hassle up and down the country. Even trashing the jack's at FP at a club they are supposed to have a lot of respect for. Rovers fans themselves must be turning a blind eye, have more scumbags than they care to admit or are afraid of a section of their fellow fans.

Other clubs fans I believe would self police this in some way...I would be the last to praise Derry fans but a few years ago some of their little schoologans went for us outside of the ground as we were leaving. Some of their own fans chased them away and made sure that they were being c**ts in no uncertain terms. The fact that during the match the Rovers social media ignored the fact it happened tells a lot. Also there is a hell of a lot of rovers fans online glossing it over with the watts incident.

It's annoying as there will be probably zero tolerance to any pyro I would imagine moving forward despite the fact it actually does a better job at promoting the league than the FAI by adding to the atmosphere

Thanks for the victory Rovers btw

[Joe Strummer]

Club Statement https://www.shamrockrovers.ie/2021/11/06/club-statement-6th-november-2021/

[sullanefc]

Club Statement https://www.shamrockrovers.ie/2021/11/06/club-statement-6th-november-2021/
Eventually. That should have been put out last night but at least they have done it now.

[Joe Strummer]

Eventually. That should have been put out last night but at least they have done it now.

Maybe they were busy traveling back from the match...

[Calcio Jack]

Eventually. That should have been put out last night but at least they have done it now.

“Eventually” …. Get over yourself - let’s hope more importantly that the Gardai investigate and find enough evidence to allow the DPP to prosecute the alleged offenders.

[Neish]

Rovers fans always say it's one or two idiots as they cause hassle up and down the country. Even trashing the jack's at FP at a club they are supposed to have a lot of respect for. Rovers fans themselves must be turning a blind eye, have more scumbags than they care to admit or are afraid of a section of their fellow fans.

Other clubs fans I believe would self police this in some way...I would be the last to praise Derry fans but a few years ago some of their little schoologans went for us outside of the ground as we were leaving. Some of their own fans chased them away and made sure that they were being c**ts in no uncertain terms. The fact that during the match the Rovers social media ignored the fact it happened tells a lot. Also there is a hell of a lot of rovers fans online glossing it over with the watts incident.

It's annoying as there will be probably zero tolerance to any pyro I would imagine moving forward despite the fact it actually does a better job at promoting the league than the FAI by adding to the atmosphere

Thanks for the victory Rovers btw

Which season was that?

I personally(with a few mates) have had at least two run in with that lot once outside Maginn Park and once outside Finn Park , also know of another few young lads they same mob went for outside the Brandywell on another occasion. And if memory serves there was yet another occasion where they ran behind the River End and started ripping down Harps supporters flags, so they not being discouraged too much. To be fair though I haven't noticed them on the last couple of occasion Derry visit Finn Park

[sullanefc]

Maybe they were busy traveling back from the match...


“Eventually” …. Get over yourself - let’s hope more importantly that the Gardai investigate and find enough evidence to allow the DPP to prosecute the alleged offenders.
Amazing...

[redobit]

Delighted with that against Pats. We rode our luck and they should have got one or two.

Some turn around for us. TO put it into perspective. We got 9 points from our last 3 games. In our 11 games before that we also got 9 points.

Mad season for us but so happy to get Europe. We need it just to have a chance to keep a pace with sugar daddies.

[D24Saint]

“ Mad season for us but so happy to get Europe. We need it just to have a chance to keep a pace with sugar daddies”

Not many of them about these days. We are cobbling together a team with loan players and youngfellas. The fact that it is working out is down to the hard work of SOD & Matthews.

[sulywaterfordfc]

Guards arrested two young adults. Following on from the incident last night. https://waterford-news.ie/2021/11/06/two-arrested-after-fireworks-let-off-at-rsc/

[DCWA]

Which season was that?

I personally(with a few mates) have had at least two run in with that lot once outside Maginn Park and once outside Finn Park , also know of another few young lads they same mob went for outside the Brandywell on another occasion. And if memory serves there was yet another occasion where they ran behind the River End and started ripping down Harps supporters flags, so they not being discouraged too much. To be fair though I haven't noticed them on the last couple of occasion Derry visit Finn Park

That last incident was all Finn Harps doing in the 2-1 game and wasn’t given anywhere near the coverage it should have been Harps massively over sold the away end for that game… original announcement being that were would be 300 away tix.. and ended up with about 5 times that sold to derry for the same size of away end meaning derry fans had no choice but to spill en masse behind the goal onto a muddy hill that years before had been deemed unsafe there was several slips and a clean miracle FHFC didn’t cause a football fan a serious injury, absolutely criminal and they cared not a jot for the wellbeing of travelling fans only for a few euro so a few ripped flags that night was a miracle of an outcome and ita a good thing derry lost or behind that goal would have been a crime scene.

They done it last night too and one of your own stewards admitted it “this away end is far too packed”.

[Nesta99]

Two wrongs and all that DCWA. If there were dangerous circumstances especially over crowding the last thing needed is for that crowds misbehaviour, there is never justification. If overcrowding is an ongoing issue for Derry visits to Finn Park I presume DCFC have reported it to the FAI and so have been caught out on breaching safe holding capacity even up to last night! Have Derry supporters concerns been voiced to their own club too as there is a responsibility for personal safety too ie not attending a game that is unsafe.

[redarmyfaction]

Rovers fans always say it's one or two idiots as they cause hassle up and down the country. Even trashing the jack's at FP at a club they are supposed to have a lot of respect for. Rovers fans themselves must be turning a blind eye, have more scumbags than they care to admit or are afraid of a section of their fellow fans.

Other clubs fans I believe would self police this in some way...I would be the last to praise Derry fans but a few years ago some of their little schoologans went for us outside of the ground as we were leaving. Some of their own fans chased them away and made sure that they were being c**ts in no uncertain terms. The fact that during the match the Rovers social media ignored the fact it happened tells a lot. Also there is a hell of a lot of rovers fans online glossing it over with the watts incident.

It's annoying as there will be probably zero tolerance to any pyro I would imagine moving forward despite the fact it actually does a better job at promoting the league than the FAI by adding to the atmosphere

Thanks for the victory Rovers btw
There has been a large quantity of vermin traveling with Sham's in the Tallaght years and it
Has seemed to me that the cocaine and carpets mob involved in running the club have more than a sneaking regard for the former.

[redobit]

In fairness to whatever lad is doing match updates on the club twitter account i don't think its up to him to respond


Probably isint his place to alright but it didn't stop him throwing in some sneaky updates on Shamrock twitter page though. Updates after the incident saying stuff like 'spark an attack' and 'dying embers'. Probably a coincidence :rolleyes:

[sbgawa]

There has been a large quantity of vermin traveling with Sham's in the Tallaght years and it
Has seemed to me that the cocaine and carpets mob involved in running the club have more than a sneaking regard for the former.

Fairly balanced view there :)
Just curious but who are the cocaine and carpets mob supposedly running the club?
The members club Directors, Wilson or Dermot Desmond?
Or are you confusing us with Bohs with Des Kelly Carpets?

[Martinho II]

I was shocked at the scenes from the RSC just when the loi is getting good publicity. Its typical that it always happens in Ireland . you never hear of this mayhem across the water at all.

Sad night to be a league of ireland follower. It will take years to repair the damage caused by last night.

First JD and now this.

[Neish]

That last incident was all Finn Harps doing in the 2-1 game and wasn’t given anywhere near the coverage it should have been Harps massively over sold the away end for that game… original announcement being that were would be 300 away tix.. and ended up with about 5 times that sold to derry for the same size of away end meaning derry fans had no choice but to spill en masse behind the goal onto a muddy hill that years before had been deemed unsafe there was several slips and a clean miracle FHFC didn’t cause a football fan a serious injury, absolutely criminal and they cared not a jot for the wellbeing of travelling fans only for a few euro so a few ripped flags that night was a miracle of an outcome and ita a good thing derry lost or behind that goal would have been a crime scene.

They done it last night too and one of your own stewards admitted it “this away end is far too packed”.

The fact it was over sold does not excuse ripping down flag that someone or a group sent possibly hundreds on and trying to excuse it for any reason is absolutely ridiculous. But i guess that is the Derry way, a bad tackle on a former Harps player supposedly excuses the away dressing rooms being left like a rubbish heap. What is you excuse for the rest of the actions I listed that come directly from your following, did they get a dodgy burger or something?

[Kiki Balboa]

I was shocked at the scenes from the RSC just when the loi is getting good publicity. Its typical that it always happens in Ireland . you never hear of this mayhem across the water at all.

Sad night to be a league of ireland follower. It will take years to repair the damage caused by last night.

First JD and now this.


Ah come on now. By the end of the season this will be fairly forgotten about. Its messy, reflects bad but its not end of the world stuff.

I have no idea what the kid was thinking of. Like what was his plan? Bust the roof above his head?...... Also, reflects badly on Waterford security, no? I mean a firework repeater is a lot bigger than a flare, surly its fairly hard to be discreet about it.

[ontheotherhand]

Ah come on now. By the end of the season this will be fairly forgotten about. Its messy, reflects bad but its not end of the world stuff.

I have no idea what the kid was thinking of. Like what was his plan? Bust the roof above his head?...... Also, reflects badly on Waterford security, no? I mean a firework repeater is a lot bigger than a flare, surly its fairly hard to be discreet about it.

I assumed the post you responded to was taking the ****.....I mean I hope so!

I heard the kid said he was "trying to hit the roof". I'm not saying I didn't mess around with repeaters back in the good auld days when I had no real respect for the amount of time I had left on the clock....but what an utter fool. I almost, ALMOST, feel sorry for him. If he is dumb enough to let a repeater off under a roof in a crowd......what chance does this lad (or the two lads supposedly involved) have in life at all?

Mandatory IQ checks should be required for all away fans moving forward.