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Nesta99
15/05/2021, 9:39 PM
While this is true, that goal still shouldn't have stood because of where it was taken from. Derry can have every right to be annoyed at the goal standing, and Rovers taking the throw from 20 yards further from where it should have been taken is, I think, above and beyond "play the whistle"
The real shocker is that a LoI ref didnt jump at the chance to blow his whistle - playing advantage obviously.....
sbgawa
15/05/2021, 9:43 PM
The real shocker is that a LoI ref didnt jump at the chance to blow his whistle - playing advantage obviously.....
He was shocking all game.
Nesta99
15/05/2021, 10:03 PM
He was shocking all game.
Nah, its obviously pro Rovers bias;)
mcgonigle
15/05/2021, 10:49 PM
Lofty9
Missed that. The point is that the second ball isn't even an issue. Saying Derry should be switched on is laughable when the players are turned the other way to defend the throw from the right place.
lofty9
15/05/2021, 10:52 PM
Missed that. The point is that the second ball isn't even an issue. Saying Derry should be switched on is laughable when the players are turned the other way to defend the throw from the right place.
I didn't actually know about the 2nd ball change, still haunted by the Santry 2nd ball incident back in the day.
Dalymountrower
16/05/2021, 7:38 AM
RTE reporting that the Rovers throw in for the goal was only" a few yards away" from where it should have been taken.So there! The Oracle has spoken, nothing to see here!
In other news, Bohs continue to improve, check out Devoys back heel nutmeg leading up to Burts 20 yard finish.
Nesta99
16/05/2021, 9:52 AM
RTE reporting that the Rovers throw in for the goal was only" a few yards away" from where it should have been taken.So there! The Oracle has spoken, nothing to see here!
In other news, Bohs continue to improve, check out Devoys back heel nutmeg leading up to Burts 20 yard finish.
I would have used Trash-heap myself!
https://64.media.tumblr.com/0659bcb53dc7019519a9a44b2678e31e/tumblr_mu221iPb9h1r3yxp8o1_400.gifv
sbgawa
16/05/2021, 12:09 PM
Saw another angle and i can kind of see where the ref let it go. Scales picked a ball up from on top of the nearest cone to him and then stole another few yards to throw it. Still hard to believe it was let go but cest la vie
pineapple stu
16/05/2021, 12:42 PM
Well, that doesn't say why the ref should have let it go in fairness. Scales was thinking fast, and no harm in that, but the point of the referee is to ensure fast thinking is in line with the rules, and that didn't happen here.
And while two balls on the pitch isn't an issue as such, it does become one if it interferes with play. Here, the other Rovers guy controls the first ball and walks as if to take the throw (which he probably would have done if Scales didn't do it first). So there's a situation where Derry are being asked to defend against two things at once, and that's when the ref should have called play back.
These things balance out over time of course. VAR would have disallowed the goal, but given us nothing to yap about. :)
NFF-Fotball
16/05/2021, 1:08 PM
Saw another angle and i can kind of see where the ref let it go. Scales picked a ball up from on top of the nearest cone to him and then stole another few yards to throw it. Still hard to believe it was let go but cest la vie
1. Procedure
At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower must:
• stand facing the field of play
• have part of each foot on the touchline or on the ground outside the
touchline
• throw the ball with both hands from behind and over the head from the point where it left the field of play
sbgawa
17/05/2021, 11:34 AM
1. Procedure
At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower must:
• stand facing the field of play
• have part of each foot on the touchline or on the ground outside the
touchline
• throw the ball with both hands from behind and over the headfrom the point where it left the field of play unless it is Shamrock Rovers who can do what they want as its for the good of Irish Football
Fixed that for you :)
Longfordian
17/05/2021, 11:50 AM
In fairness most players will take a few yards on throw ins and will get away with it 90% of the time. For this one however, from the limited footage available, the Rovers player was extracting the urine a bit too much and should have been brought back.
pineapple stu
17/05/2021, 12:31 PM
Yep. Plus the second ball on the pitch is also a factor in this case I think.
EatYerGreens
17/05/2021, 1:22 PM
The situation for that goal was crazy. Even the cameraman didn't record the throw-in, as he was following the first ball and the Rovers player who looked like he was about to take the throw-in from where it went out. Stuff like this just makes us look like a Mickey Mouse league.
lofty9
17/05/2021, 2:05 PM
The situation for that goal was crazy. Even the cameraman didn't record the throw-in, as he was following the first ball and the Rovers player who looked like he was about to take the throw-in from where it went out. Stuff like this just makes us look like a Mickey Mouse league.
Danny Lafferty got booked for protesting the goal too, then got his marching orders in stoppage time.
Risteard
17/05/2021, 2:35 PM
RTE reporting that the Rovers throw in for the goal was only" a few yards away" from where it should have been taken.So there! The Oracle has spoken, nothing to see here!
The word "only" is your own insertion. You could have mentioned that the article said "at least a few yards forward", but I guess that doesn't fit your narrative as well.
In our game away to Dundalk there was a similar incident to the Rovers Derry game, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh7s5I2ZXZQ&t=7521s
No great fuss because Dundalk didn't score in the end but how hard is it to not get these things so outrageously and obviously wrong?
sbgawa
17/05/2021, 3:50 PM
In our game away to Dundalk there was a similar incident to the Rovers Derry game, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh7s5I2ZXZQ&t=7521s
No great fuss because Dundalk didn't score in the end but how hard is it to not get these things so outrageously and obviously wrong?
wow , if possible thats even worse.
Bohtastic
17/05/2021, 6:02 PM
Ah no, the Rovers one is worse IMO, the fact that it looked like Gannon was about to take a throw from the correct spot clinches it.
Dalymountrower
17/05/2021, 8:27 PM
The word "only" is your own insertion. You could have mentioned that the article said "at least a few yards forward", but I guess that doesn't fit your narrative as well.
If I misquoted the report, you might have had a point, but I didn't.
pineapple stu
17/05/2021, 9:22 PM
Risteard is right in fairness - you didn't misquote the article, but you did misrepresent it.
Dalymountrower
17/05/2021, 10:04 PM
Risteard is right in fairness - you didn't misquote the article, but you did misrepresent it.
"At least a few yards forward" as opposed to a "few yards away" , yeah, gross misrepresentation alright
.Heaven forfend that RTE is called out for failing to highlight a major refereeing error in LOI. Anyway, throw in was least ten yards from where it should have been taken, but RTE decided to be coy on that in their"narrative"
pineapple stu
17/05/2021, 10:36 PM
You said "only a few yards away". That would indicate it was fine - ah sure it was only a few yards away like. But the report said "at least a few yards away". That indicates it was excessive.
I think the RTÉ report does highlight the error, and I don't see that they're trying to be coy, as you suggest
EatYerGreens
19/05/2021, 1:30 PM
You said "only a few yards away". That would indicate it was fine - ah sure it was only a few yards away like. But the report said "at least a few yards away". That indicates it was excessive.
I think the RTÉ report does highlight the error, and I don't see that they're trying to be coy, as you suggest
This is getting incredibly reductive/semantic now, but I honestly think "at least a few yards away" downplays it somewhat too and is a bit of a cop out. In my view it should have been more along the lines of "a significant distance away". Which by any sensible definition in footballing terms it was.
placid casual
19/05/2021, 1:52 PM
It's a Rovers/RTE/FAI conspiracy. Throw in Mossad whilst you're at it, probably, as no doubt the aluminium milliners of North Dublin central would have you believe.
It's the natural order of things that incidents like this tend to go your way when your in the course of being successful-I'm sure dundalk fans would attest to that.
Nesta99
19/05/2021, 2:14 PM
I think that top or bottom of the table questionable decisions by refs do actually balance out over a season though they feel far more acutely when struggling and looking for that bit of 'luck'. I dont know how anyone cant look at the circumstance surrounding the goal and in particular that the throw in was not near where the ball went out of play, and not accept that it was harsh on Derry in a game where 1 goal made a difference. Imo the ref should have stopped play and had the throw retaken closer to the correct spot irrespective of club involved. If it were Dundalk that benefited I think I'd accept that it could/should have been chalked off but that I'd take those decisions that benefit my club anytime - tough on the opposition but c'est la vie.
placid casual
19/05/2021, 3:49 PM
Of course it should have been called back. Scales wasn't even in the TV picture frame where he took the throw. Cest lá vie.
Nesta99
19/05/2021, 4:35 PM
Thats more like it, a lot better than a Rovers/Mossad led conspiracy....
placid casual
19/05/2021, 7:03 PM
I see Vito from the Sopranos (the Fanook) is in a video proclaiming his love for dundalk & the GLITW.. Strange.
mcgonigle
19/05/2021, 8:09 PM
I see Vito from the Sopranos (the Fanook) is in a video proclaiming his love for dundalk & the GLITW.. Strange.
An upgrade on the Wealdstone Raider anyway
Yossarian
19/05/2021, 8:30 PM
I see Vito from the Sopranos (the Fanook) is in a video proclaiming his love for dundalk & the GLITW.. Strange.
Anybody will say anything these days if you give them a few quid.
Dalymountrower
19/05/2021, 10:13 PM
I see Vito from the Sopranos (the Fanook) is in a video proclaiming his love for dundalk & the GLITW.. Strange.
Imminent managerial announcement...Johnnycakes?
sbgawa
20/05/2021, 7:46 PM
Imminent managerial announcement...Johnnycakes?
Syl has come out of the coma
Some obvious crossovers
Used to dealing with foreign talent
Used to having a Godfather who has to be obeyed
Used to having to deal with departures of trusted lieutenants in unusual circumstances
Has replaced Italians in the past
Management Material
ToberonaTornado
25/05/2021, 12:42 AM
There's Johnny Ward back on the sniff again! :rolleyes::p;)
He's not wrong though. Win tonight and they'd be 7 points clear after 11 games, just 4 points dropped all season, best defence and attack in the league (if you ignore Drogheda's 7-0 win against an U19 team), no-one really showing the consistency to keep up - indeed no-one able to beat them in the league in almost a full season - and as Nah Nah notes, Towell to come in. It's a fairly ominous picture for everyone else.
Yerp.
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