Weekend fixtures 23rd April-24th April

[Dalymountrower]

I'll be honest with you. I couldn't give a €hit. 😉
That was pretty much what Bradley said too.
Mind you would be happy with any dodgey victory myself.

[sbgawa]

Rovers should have won comfortably based on chances, Burke should have had a hat trick.
7 to 3 ;)
Still reckon we have a lot more in us but would be good to see Joey back next week.
Finn was excelent when he came on.

[joey B]

Imagine telling someone a couple of years ago Cork would be 10 points behind Athlone 2nd bottom of the 1st division!

[Jack B]

Find Rovers a weird one. Great squad but even though they still manage to pull results out I don't really get the approach of accumulating and playing as many centre halves as they possibly can. Just seems to make them more stodgy than they need to be from the limited amount I've seen them.

Then again I am possibly judging them harshly against our fluid brand of total football.

[sbgawa]

Its Pats title to lose really

[Dalymountrower]

Rovers should have won comfortably based on chances, Burke should have had a hat trick.
7 to 3 ;)


"Chances" .just be a very fluid concept in South West Dublin.

[ontheotherhand]

Cracking game (if you enjoy that sort of thing) with **** poor defending from both sides creating easily the most end to end derby I've seen in long time.. 3-4 passes and both teams were through on goal. Rovers looked like they might run away with it in the first 10 minutes and were giving Bohs the run around but Bohs got back into the game. Chances about evened out over the 95 mins but Bohs were on top for a lot of the second to be fair to them. Burt and Tierney are smashing little players. Coote and Wilson as well. A few future hoops in there I'd say.

Soft peno but the hand went up and if its a foul then it's a red. Plenty of far worse decisions have gone Bohs way in these games. Nice that it happened very close to where Grace got sent off and conceded a peno for clearing the ball with his head. Enjoyed it immensely.

Good to see a derby that wasn't a pure scrap without any clearcut chances or decent passages of play. More in that game than the last 10 combined. More to come from that Bohs team. It won't be enough for a title challenge but they aren't interested in those apparently.

Pat's look like serious contenders with Forrester possibly the best player in the league at the moment, at least from what I've seen and heard. Not exactly happy for Pats but happy for him as he comes across as a sound lad from the recent podcast.

[PartySaint]

Its Pats title to lose really

Only 11 games to go until we get a Rovers title.

[sbgawa]

A european place will do us at this stage, league is gone , but maybe the cup is still there for us

[Charlie Darwin]

Enjoyed that game. Long time since a team came to Tallaght (bar Milan) and really took us on like that. Delighted with the win - most fun way to win a game since it wasn't even a corner.

[sbgawa]

Definitely wasn't a corner

[Bohtastic]

That's not undermining your points buddy.
It's a prediction that winning ugly, or winning on the back of dubious decisions are not going to last all season.

[Charlie Darwin]

I don't think anyone suggested it was? And I wouldn't have said we won ugly. We created plenty of chances, it was giving too many up that was the problem but that happens against good teams.

[Longfordian]

Imagine telling someone a couple of years ago Cork would be 10 points behind Athlone 2nd bottom of the 1st division!

I'm reluctant to go overboard as it's still early and I know the First Division can be horrible but..really..the population of Cork and they can't get a team of young lads together that would have them at least upper mid table?

[redarmyfaction]

They have a team that might finish upper mid table, they go by the name of Cobh.

[D24Saint]

They have a team that might finish upper mid table, they go by the name of Cobh.

Touché

[ger121]

Can argue whether it was a penalty or not. My own view is it was not but I’m more annoyed Talbot didn’t save it. Was a poor hit by Burke. There was that many chances created and two teams defending badly, the game could have finished on any scoreline. Rovers know how to win ugly and late. All the hallmarks of a title winning side.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

At the time I thought definite penalty but seeing the replay would say it’s not.

[Sonny]

Soft peno but the hand went up and if its a foul then it's a red. Plenty of far worse decisions have gone Bohs way in these games. Nice that it happened very close to where Grace got sent off and conceded a peno for clearing the ball with his head. Enjoyed it immensely.


That's the best part of all the conspiracy theories about pro-Rovers decisions! It was only 2019 when objectively horrendous sending off and penalty decisions by Harvey and McLaughlin handed Bohs two derbies in a row!

FWIW I thought the peno decision was borderline. I probably wouldn't be happy if it was given against us, and it's never a red card under the current rules.

Rovers were uncharacteristically all over the shop at the back for large spells which probably has a lot to do with the ongoing issues in central midfield. Great to be grinding out results but they're going to need to find their stride to keep winning over the season.

Thought Bohs were decent, especially in the second half. I think they have bigger defensive problems though tbh. I don't rate the centre half options there at all, and Talbot is a liability.

[Longfordian]

They have a team that might finish upper mid table, they go by the name of Cobh.

Ha very true. OK, two teams.

[CorribsideSteve]

Whatever the outcome of the penalty decision, there were two glaring examples where the standard of finishing was atrocious last night. Really low quality. How on Earth did Burt miss his chance? Aaron Greene's miss on 34 mins was absolutely appaling though. I'm not saying they are bad players because in many other areas they both had good games, but good god, those misses are the kind of thing that make people say "the league is sh*e". Overall, I thought it was a fairly decent game, and those two incidents don't serve as the description of the overall match, it's just that I see it time and again in LOI matches; the lad's through on goals, and then for whatever reason, blind panic sets in and they pass it in to the keepers arms, or miss an open goal, or pick the outcome with the least possible chance of a goal, due to lack of composure.

[ontheotherhand]

FWIW I thought the peno decision was borderline. I probably wouldn't be happy if it was given against us, and it's never a red card under the current rules.



What is the current rule? The latest I can find would make it a red card.

From the fifa rules -"Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off."

Debatable whether it was a push but that's presumably what the referee thought he saw so I don't think he had any other option than the red unless the rules have been updated again. That was from the 2019 version I think.

[Sonny]

Whatever the outcome of the penalty decision, there were two glaring examples where the standard of finishing was atrocious last night. Really low quality. How on Earth did Burt miss his chance? Aaron Greene's miss on 34 mins was absolutely appaling though. I'm not saying they are bad players because in many other areas they both had good games, but good god, those misses are the kind of thing that make people say "the league is sh*e".

I don't really agree with this tbh. There are awful misses regularly in games at every level. Two of my non-LOI mates text me last night and independently of one another mentioned how enjoyable the game was and how attractive the football was. The football in the LOI is lightyears more attractive than comparable levels in the UK.



What is the current rule? The latest I can find would make it a red card.

From the fifa rules -"Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off."

Debatable whether it was a push but that's presumably what the referee thought he saw so I don't think he had any other option than the red unless the rules have been updated again. That was from the 2019 version I think.

Yeah, if that's the wording of the rule then obviously you could technically justify the red card. I thought the original double jeopardy rule only called for a red in the cases of very cynical or dangerous fouls, but I may have just got that impression from people paraphrasing the rule above incorrectly.

[Nesta99]

[QUOTE=Bohtastic;2074670]Terrible decision.
Rovers aren't impressing this season.[

Imagine what we’ll be like when we click into gear - was a peno and red card

Keith Long didn’t know he was live in his interview with Tony O’D no wonder he was being so outspoken and livid re the penalty -albeit completely wrong

PS was he wearing fake tan

tt was the most impressive thing about Bohs preseason visit to Oriel! With lockdown he must be going through bottles of the stuff...


I know there is a long way to go but it feels like the top of the table at least is settling with Rovers looking like they will only get better and pull away - they have won ugly (no disrespect intended) which is a usual trait in a league winning team when required.

I like Pats but feel they won’t be able to keep the pace.

As a Drogs fan I take heart that our only two defeats to date are against the current top 2 (injury time goals too), but we need a lot more points b4 I feel a bit more relaxed (sure isn’t that the thrill).

Nah, its obviously just the worst standerd league season ever!!

Every game for Dundalk is now huge but today against a promoted side and a local rival, managerless or not, is a badly need to win never mind a must win. Drogs have shown enough to being able to stay out of trouble, Dundalk need to do the same tbh and stop the rot - we could be bottom if Derry get a new manager bounce. Longford and Waterford will being interesting considering the issues this week at the RSC.

[Sonny]

What exactly is going on with Keith Long? Apologies if there is some sort of medical issue, but he looks like he's been tangoed and had his eyebrows shaved off!

[CorribsideSteve]

I don't really agree with this tbh. There are awful misses regularly in games at every level. Two of my non-LOI mates text me last night and independently of one another mentioned how enjoyable the game was and how attractive the football was. The football in the LOI is lightyears more attractive than comparable levels in the UK.

I don't disagree with that. I wasn't saying the match was atrocious, far from it. To be fair, I watched Liverpool draw 1-1 vs Newcastle and Aaron Greene's shot gets mixed in with how bad Liverpool's were, though I still think in general, the standard of one-on-one finishing here in this League from a coaching/technical point of view is sorely lacking, though the game overall may indeed be light years more attractive than the Conference etc.

[sbgawa]

Decent crowd inside/ outside the dundalk game :eek:

[Calcio Jack]

What exactly is going on with Keith Long? Apologies if there is some sort of medical issue, but he looks like he's been tangoed and had his eyebrows shaved off!

Thought the same hopefully nothing more than a bad application of fake tan

[Nesta99]

[QUOTE=Bohtastic;2074670]Terrible decision.
Rovers aren't impressing this season.[

Imagine what we’ll be like when we click into gear - was a peno and red card

Keith Long didn’t know he was live in his interview with Tony O’D no wonder he was being so outspoken and livid re the penalty -albeit completely wrong

PS was he wearing fake tan


Decent crowd inside/ outside the dundalk game :eek:

I was going to comment on all the ballboys behind the Carrick End. There were always one or too to retrieve balls that went out of the ground. Give them all hi-viz bibs....

Seriously though Na Gardaí should be breaking that group up!!!

[Nesta99]

What exactly is going on with Keith Long? Apologies if there is some sort of medical issue, but he looks like he's been tangoed and had his eyebrows shaved off!

Umm yeah now that you say it I feel a bit coy for being smart arsed about it especially if the 'tan' is 'cause of Addisons!

[Charlie Darwin]

Whatever the outcome of the penalty decision, there were two glaring examples where the standard of finishing was atrocious last night. Really low quality. How on Earth did Burt miss his chance? Aaron Greene's miss on 34 mins was absolutely appaling though. I'm not saying they are bad players because in many other areas they both had good games, but good god, those misses are the kind of thing that make people say "the league is sh*e". Overall, I thought it was a fairly decent game, and those two incidents don't serve as the description of the overall match, it's just that I see it time and again in LOI matches; the lad's through on goals, and then for whatever reason, blind panic sets in and they pass it in to the keepers arms, or miss an open goal, or pick the outcome with the least possible chance of a goal, due to lack of composure.
Well they're playing in the League of Ireland for a reason. They miss chances. Burt scored a great goal against Sligo so it's not like he's crap.

[sbgawa]

Bottom half of the table seperated by 2 points
Derry and Longford on 5
Dundalk and Waterford on 6 and Bohs on 7

Dundalk will obviously pull away and Waterford and Derry look like improving teams, Longford starting to look a bit shaky after that first day win over Derry.
Good weekend from a Rovers perspective beating Bohs and Sligo droping points, it does show though that its a competitive league this year, everyone is going to drop points even Barcelona of Inchicore :)

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Fully deserved win for Derry. We didn’t have one shot the whole game that I can remember. They scored with the only chance of note really but controlled the game. Joey Ndo on commentary was the real highlight.

[bennocelt]

I don't really agree with this tbh. There are awful misses regularly in games at every level. Two of my non-LOI mates text me last night and independently of one another mentioned how enjoyable the game was and how attractive the football was. The football in the LOI is lightyears more attractive than comparable levels in the UK.




Isthmian League?

[lofty9]

Fully deserved win for Derry. We didn’t have one shot the whole game that I can remember. They scored with the only chance of note really but controlled the game. Joey Ndo on commentary was the real highlight.

Our easiest win so far of the season ;)

[Charlie Darwin]

Fully deserved win for Derry. We didn’t have one shot the whole game that I can remember. They scored with the only chance of note really but controlled the game. Joey Ndo on commentary was the real highlight.
Think the commentator said the first shot on target was the 90th minute. Surprised by how poor Sligo were after how they played against us.

[RiffRaff]

Waterford v Longford had very much a bottom of the table feel to it. Lots of effort but low on quality. Longford controlled most of the play but couldnt manage a single decent effort on goal. Long hard season ahead for both teams

[pineapple stu]

Was Magilton in charge for Dundalk this evening?

[Bucket]

He was on the sideline, I couldn't see any sign of the tealady

[Nesta99]

Was on touchline and Stephen McDonnell shadow coaching!

[Charlie Darwin]

Was on touchline and Stephen McDonnell shadow coaching!
UEFA fine incoming.

[ToberonaTornado]

Was Magilton in charge for Dundalk this evening?

No, Magilton's straight man,Gerry Malone was in charge @ op this evening ;-)

On the game- Dundalk looked brilliant in the 1st half,should have scored more than one before the break with David McMillan,Shields,Zahibo & Han causing all sorts of trouble for Drogs.(Zahibo a bit lucky not to see red at the end of 1st half after he and Phillips had a "coming together"!!)

Drogs re-grouped and were excellent 2nd half but couldn't get the goal that would have drawn the game level despite excellent contributions from Brown,Massey, Murray and Douglas.(Thought Douglas was great for Drogs,was he subbed for an injury or for tactical reasons?)
Dundalk's 2nd goal was class and you'd be thinking that was that. Drogs came back and scored but in fairness Dundalk seen out the match fairly easily.

It was a decent match but there is still a lot of crazy sh*t going on with Dundalk especcially those unneeded sub changes and tinkering in some positions that were like :confused::mad::eek:

[Sonny]

That kid James Brown looks a player for Drogs!

[CorribsideSteve]

Well they're playing in the League of Ireland for a reason. They miss chances. Burt scored a great goal against Sligo so it's not like he's crap.
Fair enough point. Again I just want to reiterate that I don't think of Burt or Greene as bad players. Some great goals scored in our little League too. It's just those two misses, particularly Greene's one were one of the worst I've seen for quite some time. Ironically, the build up play in both instances was lovely. So, there's much to be positive about overall. LOI players miss easy shots really badly sometimes.

[Nesta99]

DFC tweeted a pic of people gathering behind the Carrick Goal at Oriel - a completely daft thing to do, Subsequently taken down. It should have been a tweet asking fans not to congregate like that. Setting off smoke bombs or flares, drawing attention was pure stupid too. I know Na Gardai attended but Next home game they need to be there to stop this trend from growing.

[Charlie Darwin]

Fair enough point. Again I just want to reiterate that I don't think of Burt or Greene as bad players. Some great goals scored in our little League too. It's just those two misses, particularly Greene's one were one of the worst I've seen for quite some time. Ironically, the build up play in both instances was lovely. So, there's much to be positive about overall. LOI players miss easy shots really badly sometimes.
Werner cost £50 million and he missed an open goal for Chelsea yesterday. They were both terrible misses but they happen like, particularly at this level.

[sadloserkid]

Could Werner get it done on a cold night in The Carlisle Grounds? I think not.

[placid casual]

Werner has shown he can't do it on a warm night in London.
To assess a league based on the chances missed is just ignorant in the extreme.
David McGoldrick has his own lowlight reel of open goals he missed just this season alone for Sheffield Utd in the EPL, it doesn't mean he belongs in the LOI 1st division.

[SeanDrog]

No, Magilton's straight man,Gerry Malone was in charge @ op this evening ;-)

On the game- Dundalk looked brilliant in the 1st half,should have scored more than one before the break with David McMillan,Shields,Zahibo & Han causing all sorts of trouble for Drogs.(Zahibo a bit lucky not to see red at the end of 1st half after he and Phillips had a "coming together"!!)

Drogs re-grouped and were excellent 2nd half but couldn't get the goal that would have drawn the game level despite excellent contributions from Brown,Massey, Murray and Douglas.(Thought Douglas was great for Drogs,was he subbed for an injury or for tactical reasons?)
Dundalk's 2nd goal was class and you'd be thinking that was that. Drogs came back and scored but in fairness Dundalk seen out the match fairly easily.

It was a decent match but there is still a lot of crazy sh*t going on with Dundalk especcially those unneeded sub changes and tinkering in some positions that were like :confused::mad::eek:

Hear you on Douglas, some substitutions have me perplexed at times this year combined with very late substitutions.

[bennocelt]

DFC tweeted a pic of people gathering behind the Carrick Goal at Oriel - a completely daft thing to do, Subsequently taken down. It should have been a tweet asking fans not to congregate like that. Setting off smoke bombs or flares, drawing attention was pure stupid too. I know Na Gardai attended but Next home game they need to be there to stop this trend from growing.

Yeah how dare they have a good time. Should think of granny, tsk