Dara O'Shea D Burnley b.1999 [Archive] - Page 4

John83

06/01/2021, 1:11 PM

I feel like Bielsa is trying to tell us something, but I can't tell exactly what. Perhaps another four or five posts on the topic might clarify matters.
I think I might be starting to get it after the posts below.

Badly exposed today, it showed what I said, a wonderkid, yeah...but not ready for the sweeper role some brains are saying. Can be a fullback back up left or right? Yeah, but he isnt a specialist there like Stevens, Cunningham, coleman, doherty......where to play this kid? as an enforcer in midfield next to James, his best assets are composed on the ball, tidy passer and good anticipation. Center of the pitch..Mr Kenny....i know the football as such that I can recognize a holding mid a mile away

Touchée!! I meant center back, he cant lead the line, he is learning his trade, I think holding midfield could be a good for him, I actually would play doherty and egan as centerbacks with coleman and stevens on the sides, if we play a back 4

I love this guy, he has a bit of Javier Masche on him. Big player to get the best as a holding midfielder

Something about O'Shea's best position. I'm terribly unsure. Perhaps Bielsa can explain further.

And now, to be really clear: Bielsa, could you shut the hell up please? What's that, 8 posts in a handful of pages to tell us you think he should play in midfield. You've made your point. Stop being an arse about it.

tetsujin1979

06/01/2021, 2:00 PM

And now, to be really clear: Bielsa, could you shut the hell up please? What's that, 8 posts in a handful of pages to tell us you think he should play in midfield. You've made your point. Stop being an arse about it.
what he said

Razors left peg

08/01/2021, 9:06 PM

I hadn't signed in here in a few weeks, it's almost impressive that the same comment about O'Shea is still being made

Olé Olé

16/01/2021, 11:34 AM

Starts right back away to Wolves.

He whipped a throw in into the box there. It was highlighted by the BT commentators. It's a weapon I hadn't previously spotted by him. It looked effortless.

Eirambler

16/01/2021, 12:36 PM

It seems to be something he is working on. He tried one in one of their recent games, I can't remember which one, and he fired it straight up into the air and it landed in the keepers arms. Clearly an additional part of his game he is trying to improve though.

Olé Olé

16/01/2021, 12:41 PM

Well they've just gone and scored a goal from a throw in from Dara. Great throw in, headed on and headed again by Ajayi into the net.

He didn't cover himself in glory for Boly's goal for Wolves in the first half so nice to see that goal come from his throw to level it.

Olé Olé

16/01/2021, 12:45 PM

Strange game this one. Robinson just won a penalty for West Brom which was duly converted by Pereira.

Hopefully West Brom can stay up this season because Big Sam seems to have faith in Robinson and O'Shea.

Eirambler

16/01/2021, 12:57 PM

It's going to be a big ask for them to stay up but Robinson is impressing this season despite being in a team that is struggling. Didn't ever really seem to fit the setup at Sheffield United but is now really starting to show why he was so highly rated at Preston. No harm either if he can win penalties because we don't look like scoring much otherwise.

Good to see the O'Shea throw in come off there as well.

Olé Olé

16/01/2021, 1:30 PM

Yeah, Robinson seems to be favoured to Karlan Grant at present by Allardyce. He defends from the front when he is centre forward and if Allardyce plays a more out and out 9 like Grant or Robson-Kanu, he shifts Robinson to an attacking midfield spot and he seems to have a good work rate there too.

It will be interesting to see where Allardyce invests this January. Even if he goes and signs an experienced and goalscoring centre forward, I think Robinson will still get plenty game time through the middle or on the flanks.

Can only be good for Ireland given we are still a couple of years short of having more options.

passinginterest

03/04/2021, 11:59 AM

Hobbled off against Chelsea with a very unfortunate ankle injury. The type of hyper extension that tend to damage ligaments and put you out for 4-6 weeks.

The curse of the promising young Irish player continues.

Colbert Report

06/08/2021, 7:20 PM

Headed in a nice goal in the season opener today away to Bournemouth.

Olé Olé

06/08/2021, 8:10 PM

First of two Irish goals. Robinson with their second.

tetsujin1979

06/08/2021, 10:11 PM

goal here
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Olé Olé

18/08/2021, 8:14 PM

He's gone and scored again. 2 in 3. And it's not a fluke. He looks to be incredibly comfortable here.

Goal here: https://twitter.com/SkyFootball/status/1428086775713521675?s=20

Himself and Robinson look to be right buddies.

Olé Olé

18/08/2021, 8:19 PM

Callum Robinson has scored one himself. That is 3 in 3 for him.

pineapple stu

07/09/2021, 5:19 PM

Out for 4-6 months after his injury in Portugal. Big blow for him, and of course misses the rest of the campaign now.

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/dara-oshea-injury-update

seanfhear

07/09/2021, 5:57 PM

Out for 4-6 months after his injury in Portugal. Big blow for him, and of course misses the rest of the campaign now.

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/dara-oshea-injury-update
Tough on the Fella and tough on West Brom.

John83

07/09/2021, 6:05 PM

I can't bring myself to thank that post. That's an awful blow. He'd started the season brilliantly too.

TonyD

07/09/2021, 9:36 PM

It looked nasty on the night alright. Shame for him.

John83

04/01/2022, 2:44 PM

I missed this a couple of weeks ago: O'Shea due to resume training in January, well ahead of schedule.
https://punditarena.com/football/andrewdempsey/dara-oshea-west-brom-return-from-injury-soon/

tommy_c12000

04/01/2022, 2:45 PM

Wonderful to see, hopefully he can finish the season strongly.

tommy_c12000

08/01/2022, 2:45 PM

Resumes full training on Monday. Great to see!

tetsujin1979

24/01/2022, 2:11 PM

Back in action for West Brom's U23 side today

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JR89

09/02/2022, 6:05 PM

Makes his return to the senior squad tonight after playing 90mins for the U23s on Monday. Robinson, Molumby, and Gardner Hickman all on the bench too.

Olé Olé

12/02/2022, 7:23 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/footballleagueworld.co.uk/steve-bruce-comments-on-dara-osheas-impact-at-west-brom/amp/

Quotes here from Bruce which sum up this lad. Combine his attitude and aggression with his good footballing ability and you can see why the likes of me rate him so highly.

That injury against Portugal looked dreadful at the time. His foot was left after him and I thought the ankle was in big trouble. No fear he'd take a stretcher off the field though.

Demesne Lad

14/07/2022, 1:55 PM

From Mailonline (13 July): Burnley keen to sign O'Shea, to replace Collins.

JR89

14/07/2022, 4:37 PM

seanfhear

14/07/2022, 6:48 PM

Think O'Shea should consider his options with only a year left on his contract and find himself a new club in the next 12 months.

Steve Bruce plays rotten football and West Brom went backwards quick when he was brought in mid season to replace Ismael.
Bruce keeps managing to get back on the managerial carousel with out much good evidence that he should be on it. Had football moved on from the era of Bruce and the like ?

JR89

20/07/2022, 11:35 AM

Signs a new three year contract.

JR89

21/08/2022, 10:39 AM

Had a great game yesterday getting himself a goal and an assist while also captaining the side with Livermore on the bench. You also had Omobamidele putting in a good performance for Norwich Friday night while Duffy is still waiting for his chance at Fulham.

Don't think Duffy's starting place is underthreat next month, think Kenny will stick with the same XI that beat Scotland in June. If his situation is similar come March though Kenny will find it hard to justify starting a player who isn't playing if O'Shea and Omobamidele are performing for their clubs.

third policeman

21/08/2022, 12:07 PM

Duffy's starting place should be under threat. His performance against Scotland was border-line horrific and we have four younger, technically better, more mobile and more reliable CB's who should be ahead of him in the pecking order by now, if we're building for the future.

Eirambler

21/08/2022, 12:22 PM

O'Shea, Egan and Collins for me against Scotland. Duffy to come on only if we're chasing the game.

JR89

21/08/2022, 12:25 PM

O'Shea, Collins, and Egan would be my back three but don't think Kenny will push Duffy aside for the games in September. Did it alright for the start of the last campaign but Duffy was probably in the worst form of his career and mentally not in a good place.

Diggs246

21/08/2022, 12:29 PM

Diggs246

21/08/2022, 12:40 PM

JR89

21/08/2022, 12:41 PM

Duffy won't start. Don't forget lenihan and Andrew O

Don't see Lenihan starting again unless there's another situation where we're missing a number of CBs and O'Shea would be ahead of Omobamidele in the pecking order imo.

Diggs246

21/08/2022, 12:48 PM

Don't see Lenihan starting again unless there's another situation where we're missing a number of CBs and O'Shea would be ahead of Omobamidele in the pecking order imo.
Sure and agreed. I think it will be Egan Collins and O shea. I was aluding to duffy having competition for first reserve

Eirambler

21/08/2022, 12:48 PM

An issue we have is Matt Doherty and Seamus are getting zero football. I would still play Doherty at LWB. He's younger and has played well for us even with limited club game time. What to do with seamus and the RWB position? He wast great in the last window

I don't think Seamus is first choice anymore. I'd keep Doherty on the right now, it's not worth moving him just to get Coleman in the team. McClean or maybe even Brady on the left (Stevens is another that looks done). At a push you could consider Omobamidele or O'Shea on the left as both have played left back at club level, but probably a stretch to ask either to play wing back.

Diggs246

21/08/2022, 12:51 PM

I don't think Seamus is first choice anymore. I'd keep Doherty on the right now, it's not worth moving him just to get Coleman in the team. McClean or maybe even Brady on the left (Stevens is another that looks done). At a push you could consider Omobamidele or O'Shea on the left as both have played left back at club level, but probably a stretch to ask either to play wing back.

So who are your wing backs?

Anytime Doherty played LWB hes being excellent. My guess is its easier to slot someone else in on the rwb position...but maybe not

SkStu

21/08/2022, 12:54 PM

I don't think Seamus is first choice anymore. I'd keep Doherty on the right now, it's not worth moving him just to get Coleman in the team. McClean or maybe even Brady on the left (Stevens is another that looks done). At a push you could consider Omobamidele or O'Shea on the left as both have played left back at club level, but probably a stretch to ask either to play wing back.

I think this is it. McClean/Brady at LWB (with hopefully Brady impressing enough to move straight in) with Doherty at RWB and Coleman as back up there.

O’Shea has actually played WB on both sides for West Brom.

Eirambler

21/08/2022, 12:58 PM

So who are your wing backs?

Anytime Doherty played LWB hes being excellent. My guess is its easier to slot someone else in on the rwb position...but maybe not

Still Doherty and McClean for now. Coleman in the squad for bench impact - could give us a good half hour with Doherty switching across at that point. If Brady came back in and was flying in training he'd be a contender on the left. Especially as we don't really have a recognised set piece taker in the team these days - if it was a tight call between McClean and Brady I'd pick Brady for that reason.

Left wing back could be an issue for the next couple of years though, it's one position where there's no obvious younger player knocking on the door - Bagan and Adaramola probably quite a bit away from that level yet.

Diggs246

21/08/2022, 1:37 PM

Can't say McLean would be my choice
He is inconsistent at best. The ukraine goal was his fault. Brady sure but will kenny start a player on a competitive game that he hasn't gone near before?

JR89

21/08/2022, 1:44 PM

Can't say McLean would be my choice
He is inconsistent at best. The ukraine goal was his fault. Brady sure but will kenny start a player on a competitive game that he hasn't gone near before?

Jamie McGrath made his debut away to Portugal and Brady was playing when Kenny first came in. Actually played the first 11 games of Kenny's reign. Only issue being Kenny mightn't see him as a WB and could chance his 3-4-3 again with Brady playing as one of the two supporting the striker.

Diggs246

21/08/2022, 2:06 PM

Jamie McGrath made his debut away to Portugal and Brady was playing when Kenny first came in. Actually played the first 11 games of Kenny's reign. Only issue being Kenny mightn't see him as a WB and could chance his 3-4-3 again with Brady playing as one of the two supporting the striker.

Wow.. brady played 11 games under kenny?!
Mu bad... I thought he was in the Shane long not for me catorgy

tommy_c12000

21/08/2022, 8:15 PM

Duffy well down the pecking order for me. If Kenny want to persist with attempting to play from the back, the Duffy cannot play another game while he’s in charge. He’s simply terrible on the ball… solid defender and big threat in the opponents box of course

Predator

22/08/2022, 9:12 AM

Duffy's starting place should be under threat. His performance against Scotland was border-line horrific...
Startling assessment. Duffy set up the first goal, which set us on our way in that game and he marshalled the back line well. Despite the misguided view that he is lucky to complete a pass at all, his passing accuracy was actually the highest of the three CBs that day too. There were two hairy moments that he got away with, but they did not define his performance against Scotland. The thing that will count against Duffy is not his ability to play football, but his game time at club level. He needs to get into the Fulham team and stay there.

Eirambler

22/08/2022, 9:29 AM

It's probably only fair to point out that the "two hairy moments" involved putting John McGinn clean through on goal twice and on another day would have cost us the game.

Much as I admire Duffy's commitment and effort I'd rather we learned the lesson from the day we got away with it rather than waiting until it happens again and we aren't so lucky.