Limerick Desmond League 2019/20

[Abbeyman]

Getting serious for the league , all the teams folding . Feenagh , ballysteen , KB ( ballyhahill) , ferry (tarbert) , rock hill ( bruree) are still able to field good football or hurling teams .

[Kennycon]

Getting serious for the league , all the teams folding . Feenagh , ballysteen , KB ( ballyhahill) , ferry (tarbert) , rock hill ( bruree) are still able to field good football or hurling teams .
It’s a sign of the times. The younger generation don’t want to play or compete

[fanaticfan]

Kb not having a team this year. Most of their players gone to glin and rathkeale

[last man back]

I reckon league will be more open this year. Broadford finished last year very strong, Abbeyfeale seem to have got weaker. Glin are a great cup team but if they were a bit more consistent could challenge. Heard AK are not to bad and NCW have strengthened. Rathkeale still favourites for me but only just.

[runinglate]

KB not having a team is a massive shock, Surely they would be able to manage one team between the two clubs.

Hopefully Full time Productions can give the league a must needed social media profile this year, we need something to make it attractive again.

[Shearer]

Most of the fixtures out, good to be back.


Saturday 14th September

Youths Division 1
Mountcollins AFC V Ballingarry AFC 1130 (P. O’Donnell)
Pallaskenry AFC V St. Itas 1030 (E. Noonan)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Newcastle West Town 1130 (J. Roche)

Sunday 15th September

Weekly Observer Premier Division
Rathkeale AFC V Granagh Utd 1130
Adare Utd V Ballingarry AFC 1130 in Manor Fields
Abbeyfeale Utd V Newcastle West Town 1130
Kilcornan V Glin Rovers 1130


*Weekly Observer Division 1
Rathkeale B V Shountrade AFC 230
Kildimo Utd V St. Itas 1130
Newcastle West Town Reserves V Pallaskenry AFC in Woodfield 230
Creeves Celtic V Breska Rovers 1130

Weekly Observer Division 2
*To follow after MC meeting tonight.

[robotwarsfan]

Most of the fixtures out, good to be back.
Are Shannonside gone too?

[Ballistinianlad]

Are Shannonside gone too?

Is it a bye? 9 team first division I think?

[Ballistinianlad]

Feenagh confirm they won’t be fielding a junior team

[Red_Devil]

Having been involved with one of the teams that have pulled out this year. I can say there are a number of factors causing the reduction in teams this year.
1.In general over last few years there has been a decline in players number with more retiring and less younger players joining (not just in Soccer also in GAA). 2.There isn’t the same emphasis in team sports as there was say 5 years ago.
3.Also a lack of interest and people getting fed up due to the manner in which the league is run. The fact you only get fixtures a week in advance stops people being able to plan holidays etc.and it also prohibits clubs from avoiding clashes with other sports(e.g GAA games). If you had more notice it would be easier to organize changes.
Also the delays last year meant you had no flow to the seasons. Even excluding the delay for the refs strike. There was teams with breaks of 4 weeks and a game then another break of two or three weeks.
Sad to see so few teams entering but not sure what will drive interest back up again!

[Abbeyman]

Why is there only 4 matchs in the premier league ?
Have AK United changed their name back to kilcornan ?

[Ballistinianlad]

I heard Carrig Celtic we’re struggling to get a squad together? Hardly down to that?

[robotwarsfan]

I heard Carrig Celtic we’re struggling to get a squad together? Hardly down to that?

But they can field a B team??
Askeaton also fielding one aswell

[Kiely92]

Having been involved with one of the teams that have pulled out this year. I can say there are a number of factors causing the reduction in teams this year.
1.In general over last few years there has been a decline in players number with more retiring and less younger players joining (not just in Soccer also in GAA). 2.There isn’t the same emphasis in team sports as there was say 5 years ago.
3.Also a lack of interest and people getting fed up due to the manner in which the league is run. The fact you only get fixtures a week in advance stops people being able to plan holidays etc.and it also prohibits clubs from avoiding clashes with other sports(e.g GAA games). If you had more notice it would be easier to organize changes.
Also the delays last year meant you had no flow to the seasons. Even excluding the delay for the refs strike. There was teams with breaks of 4 weeks and a game then another break of two or three weeks.
Sad to see so few teams entering but not sure what will drive interest back up again!

I stopped playing 3 years ago largely due to point 3 and the last point about delays.

[Ballistinianlad]

But they can field a B team??
Askeaton also fielding one aswell

They must have got sorted so.
Yeah askeaton prob have inflated numbers with Ballysteen folding and youths coming
Through.

[Langerdan007]

Why is there only 4 matchs in the premier league ?
Have AK United changed their name back to kilcornan ?

Yup, back to Kilcornan this season

[westernflow]

So.. a few surprises in the tables. 30 teams.
3x10.

New teams:
Breska B, Carrig B, Mountcollins, Askeaton B

Teams gone:
KB A, KB B, Feenagh, Ferry Rangers, Ferry Rangers, Rockhill and NCW 3rd team was pulled around march. Ballingarry B went early last season.

A net loss of 2/3 teams so really.

2 extra promoted to Div 1: Pallaskenry and Knockaderry (who came 5th in fifth in div 2)

Fixtures see Askeaton A v B on opening day.
Broadford v Carrig (Premier division) not on this weekend. Any reason?

[Ballistinianlad]

Would it not have made sense to push askeaton up to div 1 and not have two teams in the same division ?

[runinglate]

Would it not have made sense to push askeaton up to div 1 and not have two teams in the same division ?


In fairness they had more than likely already asked Pallaskenry and Knockaderry to move up. I presume Athea and the Glantine asked not to be pushed up.

Which is totally fine I think, Hopefully all the B teams can stay going for the year, ill rephrase that hopefully all teams can keep going for the year.

[Round Tower]

Would it not have made sense to push askeaton up to div 1 and not have two teams in the same division ?

That I don't think that a club having 2 teams in the same division does happen very often, in the Mayo league this season with 2 games left, Ballina Town B won the Premier Division winning 17 and drawing 1 of their 18 games. But will not be promoted to the Super league as their A team are still in with an outside chance of winning the Super League. The 2 clubs who finished 2nd and 3rd, Glenhest and Swinford will be promoted to the Super League next season instead, this has allways being the policy.

[noconnor16]

[/B]That I don't think that a club having 2 teams in the same division does happen very often, in the Mayo league this season with 2 games left, Ballina Town B won the Premier Division winning 17 and drawing 1 of their 18 games. But will not be promoted to the Super league as their A team are still in with an outside chance of winning the Super League. The 2 clubs who finished 2nd and 3rd, Glenhest and Swinford will be promoted to the Super League next season instead, this has allways being the policy.

That's in the Desmond league rulebook too.

[Ballistinianlad]

That's in the Desmond league rulebook too.

So if we say Breska b won div 2 this year they couldn’t be promoted if Breska a stay in division 1

Actually if memory serves me correct didn’t Rathkeale b win div 1 a few seasons back but couldn’t go up?

[Langerdan007]

Its always been the case that 2 teams from same club weren't allowed in the same division - over the years there's been a good few instances of B teams not getting promoted due to it
Ya Ballistinianlad - the only scenario where the B team would be promoted there is if the A team went up to the premier, or down to div 2 :smirk:

Do the district league allow it? lot more B and C teams in there, must happen more regularly

I know the argument against it is there's potential for manipulating results - from what I've seen there isn't a B team in the world would roll over for their A's!!! ;)

[runinglate]

Its always been the case that 2 teams from same club weren't allowed in the same division - over the years there's been a good few instances of B teams not getting promoted due to it
Ya Ballistinianlad - the only scenario where the B team would be promoted there is if the A team went up to the premier, or down to div 2 :smirk:

Do the district league allow it? lot more B and C teams in there, must happen more regularly

I know the argument against it is there's potential for manipulating results - from what I've seen there isn't a B team in the world would roll over for their A's!!! ;)

My understanding it is only allowed in the bottom division to have two teams from the same club, I'm sure it would have happened going back when Abbey/Newcastle would have had 3 teams at some stage or other.

The problem is that Division 1 and premier can have a max of 10 teams as per rule so if they had already asked Pallaskenry and Knockaderry they couldn't track back, The only Division aloud more than ten is the bottom div, I could be wrong do.

[Shearer]

FAI Junior Cup draw, couple of typos.

https://i.imgur.com/NJH8JJv.jpg

[Johnnie C]

2019/20 Oscar Traynor Trophy (begins in October)

Kerry League v Desmond League
Limerick & District League v Clare League

Desmond League v Limerick & District League
Clare League v Kerry League

Kerry League v Limerick & District League
Desmond League v Clare League

Top 2 in group qualify for the quarter-finals

[Ballistinianlad]

Presumably askeaton a and b will play each other the first two weeks ? To avoid any possible complications.
Also I understand that the usual b team player is allowed to play 4 games for the a team is null and void in this case.

[sportsfanatic]

Predictions for first weekend:

Rathkeale vs Granagh HOME
Adare vs Ballingarry AWAY
Abbeyfeale vs NCW DRAW
Kilcornan vs Glin AWAY

[Shearer]

Munster Junior Cup draw.
https://i.imgur.com/MKVkyDT.jpg

[GreenGold19]

Adare 0:1 Ballingarry
Rathkeale 1:1 Granagh
Abbey 4:1 NCW
Kilcornan 0:1 Glin

[noconnor16]

Predictions for first weekend:

Rathkeale vs Granagh HOME
Adare vs Ballingarry AWAY
Abbeyfeale vs NCW DRAW
Kilcornan vs Glin AWAY

2 out of 4

[sexyfootball]

Rathkeale drawing at home to Granagh bad start for them compounded by Abbeyfeale putting NCW Town to the sword in NCW.
Anyone at either of those games? Were Rathkeale or NCW Town missing players??

Askeaton B 1 - 0 Askeaton A?? Is that right??

[noconnor16]

Rathkeale drawing at home to Granagh bad start for them compounded by Abbeyfeale putting NCW Town to the sword in NCW.
Anyone at either of those games? Were Rathkeale or NCW Town missing players??

Askeaton B 1 - 0 Askeaton A?? Is that right??

Why wouldn't it be right? NCW missed a load of guilt edge chances, The scoreline flatters Abbeyfeale it was only 2-1 going into the last few mins.

[dutchie]

What are full results.

[Ballistinianlad]

Yeah askeaton b beat askeaton a 1-0.
Think the A team were missing a few due to gaa

[nathanbrown]

I thought the squad selections were a bit odd with Askeaton. It's as if they are attempting to have 2 teams challenging at the business end. There was a number of A team players that were nowhere near the quality of the B team players in general ability.

Rathkeale dropping points is huge. There has been very little room for error from the top 3 teams in the past 2 seasons outside of taking points off each other. It's very early but it certainly gives Abbey and Broadford a boost. Adare and Kilcornan look to have put up good battles in their first outings, anyone at these games? I think the folding of teams will have benefitted some teams and could make this the strongest premier in a few years. Glin have picked up some top players going by the paper, could they push on and challenge near the top? Granagh and Kilcornan seem to have gained players from folding clubs also

[Ballistinianlad]

Kilcornan will improve as the season goes on I think. Gained a lot of players from Kildimo from what I seen as well as two from Ballysteen. Only one was there Sunday though.
Adare have a few to come back once gaa is over apparently.

[sexyfootball]

What are full results.

Results from the Desmond League Twitter page
https://twitter.com/LgDesmond/status/1173276497408397313

[sexyfootball]

Why wouldn't it be right? NCW missed a load of guilt edge chances, The scoreline flatters Abbeyfeale it was only 2-1 going into the last few mins.

A 'B' team beating an 'A' team?? Who's picking those teams/ squads like? I see someone saying that they maybe looking at a 1-2 at the top of the table for the end of the season!

Glin always threatened to put in a good season, losing Paul Sheehan a big blow.. but always there or thereabouts in the cup competitions and can beat any team on their day.

[Johnnie C]

Report on Newcastle v Abbey.
https://www.limerickleader.ie/gallery/sport/478606/slideshow-debutants-impress-for-abbeyfeale-in-desmond-league.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

[noconnor16]

A 'B' team beating an 'A' team?? Who's picking those teams/ squads like? I see someone saying that they maybe looking at a 1-2 at the top of the table for the end of the season!

Glin always threatened to put in a good season, losing Paul Sheehan a big blow.. but always there or thereabouts in the cup competitions and can beat any team on their day.

Well the 5 game for A team will be in play, I'd say the league is keeping a close eye on that.

[Langerdan007]

Think someone said that the 4 games for the A's was suspended in this case

[Ballistinianlad]

Yeah they are signed with one or the other. They can transfer up until the window shuts

[fanaticfan]

I heard that the referee involved in the case back in abbey last season is bringing Abbeyfeale to court.

[Ballistinianlad]

From what Iv heard that case is about to get extremely messy. I hope it doesn’t lead to any more issues for the league as a whole going forward

[Ballistinianlad]

Any results ?
Creeves vs Pallaskenry abandoned. A spectator refused to leave or something along those lines

[Shearer]

Abbeyfeale out of the FAI.
https://twitter.com/LgDesmond/status/1175805359753183233?s=19

[DesmondLad]

Any results ?
Creeves vs Pallaskenry abandoned. A spectator refused to leave or something along those lines

Heard that the spectator from Pallas abused the referee and when asked to leave refused. Ref abandoned the game.

[Langerdan007]

Wasn't it the same man in the middle for the Kildimo-Granagh(?) game that was abandoned last season??

:D no witness to confirm if anything happened but enough to go to court :rolleyes: - he hasn't been back in his capacity as ref this season has he?

[sexyfootball]

If it was abandoned because of abuse and a spectator being asked; then refusing to leave i'd side with the referee... why take abuse? Without the referees we have no league...

In relation to the Abbeyfeale issues, hope it gets sorted in a satisfactory manner for all parties concerned...
Hopefully whatever you've heard about it getting extremely messy doesn't come to fruition Ballistinianlad.