Current squad Statistics

[pineapple stu]

It depends on whether or not you include Dublin City apparently. 299 without, 300 with.

I've no stats for the Leinster Senior Cup.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Everyone was saying last night that his official 300th appearance will be his next game, CTID.
Who's everyone?

[John83]

Hooper said that Tony said that Pats was his 300th, but I may have picked that up wrong.

[Schumi]

As above, it depends on whether the expunged game last year counts.

[atfconline]

So tell me, who would be the chief UCD stato? I'm looking for a little bit of help on something.

[pineapple stu]

Me or CTID. What you looking for?

[atfconline]

At the minute, not a whole lot against UCD, but will probably be back in the future.

The one game I'm missing is a 1-1 draw at Belfield on 29/11/92. I have everything bar who the two Town subs, Donal Golden and Eamon Gavin, replace.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Atfconline

Your best bet might be an old issue of the Soccer Magazine. I have a book( one of a series of 4) which was produced by two Cork guys, which had line-ups from every league game played between 1990/91 and 1993/94 which I will double check for you. I was keeping stats on who played but not which players the sub replaced. I can confirm that Gavin and Golden came on from my own records but not who they replaced.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Does anyone have a list of players that have scored a hat-trick for the club? Willie Doyle is one that I know, presumably Mick O'Byrne. Who else?

[pineapple stu]

I have a collection of such trivia which I intend putting up on STIGonline some day, includnig hat-tricks.

Paul Cullen got four in the Cup against Bluebell once. David Cassidy also got four against Shels in '79. Hat-tricks include Robbie Martin in Monaghan, Jason Sherlock in Derry, Seán Finn against Drogheda, Willie Doyle as noted, Andy Myler against Limerick/Harps (can't remember which) and a few others too.

Edit - forgot the most legendary of all, Ken Kilmurray v Bluebell in the League Cup! :o

Also Peter Hanrahan v St Francis in the League Cup the previous season.

[Aberdonian Stu]

The Myler debate was over which of the two he scored a hat trick against when it turned out the answer was both.

The Limerick one was before my time but the Harps hat-trick came in the Premier Divison at home in a 4-0. Mick O'Byrne scored the opener before going off injured and was never the same player again. Myler scored 2 penalties and an audacious lob from halfway, the day after David Beckham did the same thing against Wimbledon.

I've been told in the past that one of the Limerick goals was similar but only have vague anecdotal memory to support that and could easily be confused. I'm sure CTID can clear up the matter.

[Schumi]

The Harps hat trick was mentioned in the Back in Time section of last night's programme.

[pineapple stu]

Hat tricks wot I have -



Player Date Opposition Competition H/A No of goals Result
David Cassidy 1979 Shelbourne League of Ireland H 4 5-1
Darren O'Brien 1986 Sligo Rovers League Cup A 3 3-2
Paul Cullen 1989 Bluebell United FAI Cup Second Round H 4 4-0
Darren O'Brien 1992 Home Farm League of Ireland Premier Division H 3 3-0
Robbie Griffin 1992 Finn Harps League of Ireland Premier Division H 3 3-1
Andy Myler 1996 Finn Harps League of Ireland Premier Division H 3 4-0
Jason Sherlock 14/03/98 Derry City League of Ireland Premier Division A 3 3-0
Peter Hanrahan 29/08/99 St Francis League Cup A 3 5-0
Ken Kilmurray 26/09/00 Bluebell United League Cup H 3 7-0
Robbie Martin 17/02/02 Monaghan United eircom League Premier Division A 3 3-0
Sean Finn 08/11/02 Drogheda United eircom League Premier Division H 3 3-0
Willie Doyle 28/05/04 Kilkenny City eircom League First Division H 3 4-1

[CollegeTillIDie]

The David Cassidy hat-trick was in November 1979. Darren O'Brien's was in August 1986 in the League Cup, Paul Cullen's was in early 1990. Andy Myler's was in September 1996. I can get specific dates if any one is interested in the coming days.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Complete F.a.i. Cup Record 1934 To Date
U.c.d. Were Non-league Until July 1979 And Had To Qualify Via The Intermediate Cup.

20/1/1935 A V Waterford 2-4 Hooper, Doherty 1st Round

1936-1938 Did Not Qualify
11/2/1939 H V Bray Unknowns 1-1 Crean 1st Round
15/2/1939 A V Bray Unknowns 0-1 Replay

1940-1952 Did Not Qualify
15/2/1953 A V Sligo Rovers 3-3 Doris, Cassidy,lenihan 1st Round
18/2/1953 H V Sligo Rovers 2-3 Lenihan, Cassidy Replay

1954-1956 Did Not Qualify
17/2/1957 A V Cork Athletic 2-4 O.g., Plunkett 1st Round

1958-1979 Did Not Qualify
10/2/1980 A V Cork United 1-4 Moran 1st Round
1980/81 Season
A V Sligo Rovers 1-1 S.doyle 1st Round
H V Sligo Rovers 1-2 S.doyle Replay
1981/82 Season
H V Sligo Rovers 1-1 A.reynolds 1st Round
A V Sligo Rovers 3-1 K.dignam,s.saundh Replay
D.norman
H V Bohemians 1-2 K.o'doherty Quarter-final
1982/83 Season
H V Limerick United 0-2 First Round
1983/84 Season
A V Sligo Rovers 3-3 K.dignam, K.o'doherty First Round
R.lawlor
H V Sligo Rovers 5-0 M.o'sullivan 2, K.o'doherty Replay
F.devlin, J.hanrahan
A V Home Farm 2-1 O.g., R.gaffney Quarter-final
N V Waterford United 1-0 J.hanarahan Semi-final
N V Shamrock Rovers 0-0 Final
N V Shamrock Rovers 2-1 J.hanrahan, K.o'doherty Replay
Winners :d
1984/85
A V Mervue United 2-1 J.hanrahan , R.lawlor 1st Round
H V Athlone Town 1-3 K.dignam Quarter-final
1985/86
A V St.patrick's Athletic 1-1 S.lysaght 1st Round
H V St.patrick's Athletic 1-2 B. Murphy Replay
1986/87
H V Athlone Town 1-3 P.hanrahan 1st Round
1987/88
A V Shamrock Rovers 2-0 M.kavanagh, M.mckenna 1st Round
H V Longford Town 1-2 G.o'sullivan Quarter-final
1988/89
H V Rockmount 2-0 D.tilson, P.hanrahan 1st Round
H V Shamrock Rovers 0-1 2nd Round
1989/90
A V Bluebell United 2-2 C. Timmons 2 1st Round
H V Bluebell United 4-1 P.cullen 4 Replay
A V Derry City 0-2 2nd Round
1990/91
H V Kilkenny City 1-1 L.o'gara 1st Round
A V Kilkenny City 0-2 Replay
1991/92
H V Finn Harps 3-1 P.cullen, J.colwell, R.keogh 1st Round
A V St.patrick's Athletic 1-2 C.kavanagh 2nd Round
1992/93
H V Castleview 2-1 D.o'brien, C.timmons 1st Round
H V St.patrick's Athletic 1-1 T. Palmer 2nd Round
A V St.patrick's Athletic 0-1 Replay
1993/94
A V Finn Harps 1-1 R. Griffin 1st Round
H V Finn Harps 1-3 D.o'brien Replay
1994/95
H V Cork City 1-1 J.sherlock 1st Round
A V Cork City 1-1 M.o'byrne Replay
A V Cork City 0-1 2nd Replay
1995/96
H V Kilkenny City 1-2 T. Palmer 1st Round
1996/97
H V Bray Wanderers 0-1 1st Round
1997/98
A V Kilkenny City 4-0 C.kavanagh, J.sherlock 2 1st Round
D. Bolger
H V Home Farm/everton 1-1 J. Martin 2nd Round
A V Home Farm/everton 1-0 T. Mc Donnell Replay
H V Finn Harps 0-1 Quarter-final
1998/99
A V Rockmount 1-1 K.kilmurray 1st Round
H V Rockmount 2-0 A. Mahon, M.o'byrne Replay
A V St.patrick's Athletic 0-1 2nd Round
1999/2000
A V Monaghan United 4-0 P.hanrahan 2, J.martin 1st Round
M.o'byrne
A V Bohemians 3-3 B. Mooney,m.o'byrne 2 2nd Round
H V Bohemians 0-3
2000/01
H V Youghal United 3-1 R. Mcauley, R Martin 1st Round
C.martyn
H V Waterford United 2-2 D. Swan, K.grogan 2nd Round
A V Waterford United 0-0 ( Lost 6-7 On Pens) Replay
2001/02
A V Drogheda United 1-1 A. Mc Nally 2nd Round
H V Drogheda United 2-1 A. Mc Nally, S. Finn Replay
A V Cherry Orchard 3-0 R. Martin, M.o'donnell, 3rd Round
K.grogan
H V Derry City 2-2 Ted O'connor, M. O'donnell Qtr Final
A V Derry City 0-1 Replay
2002/03
H V Kildare County 2-1 R. Doyle 2nd Round
A V Bohemians 0-2 3rd Round
2003
H V Belgrove 2-0 R.griffin 2 2nd Round
A V Drogheda United 0-2 3rd Round
2004
H V Cork City 1-0 S. Finn 2nd Round
H V Drumcondra 5-0 P. Sullivan, P. Mc Walter, M. O' Donnell
T. Mc Donnell, R. Martin 3rd Round
H V Drogheda United 0-0 Quarter-final
A V Drogheda United 2-3 R. Martin, R. Mc Auley
2005
H V Dublin City 2-0 T. Mc Donnell, S. Hurley 2nd Round
A V Longford Town 1-1 R. Martin (pen) 3rd Round
H V LONGFORD TOWN 2-1 T.Mc Donnell, P.Mc Walter Replay
A V Bray Wanderers 1-2 R.Martin, P.Mc Walter Quarter-Final
2006
A V Kilkenny City 2-0 Cawley (pen), McWalter 2nd Round
H V Limerick F.C. 3-1 R. Finn 2, Hurley
A V Derry City 0-2 Quarter-final

2007
A V Salthill Devon 4-0 C.Byrne, Sammon D. Doyle 2nd Round
A V Dundalk 2-1 Sammon, D.Doyle 3rd Round
A V Derry City 1-0 Sammon Quarter-Final

Record Aggregate F.a.i. Cup Goals Scored In U.c.d. Club Career:
5 Paul Cullen ,Michael O' Byrne and Robbie Martin
4 Tony Mc Donnell , Pat McWalter

Leading Aggregate F.a.i Cup Goalscorers ( Still Playing At U.c.d.)
Tony Mc Donnell 4;Pat Mc Walter 4; Conor Sammon 3; Derek Doyle 2; Ronan Finn 2;
Alan Mc Nally 2; Alan Mahon 1;

[Poor Student]

When did Mick O'Donnell return?

[CollegeTillIDie]

Who says he did, that was a work in progress when you saw it. I'll have to leave the rest of the summary till later on.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Summary of F.A.I. Cup Results ( up to end of Quarter-final 2007)
Played 83 Won 29 Drew 23 Lost 31 Goals For 116 Goals Against 88

The draws includes a (6-7) penalty defeat, which finished 0-0 a.e.t..

A better record than the League Cup for a variety of reasons. We won a higher % of the games actually won the thing and have reached the Quarter-final on 8 occasions!

[CollegeTillIDie]

Our consolation goal away to Sligo was our 400th League goal away from home. Our 0-0 draw against Derry was our 128th League draw away from home. We have now drawn more games away than at home. Our home draws stand at 125 and as we only have two games at home remaining, it will be more away draws in total at the end of the season too.

[CollegeTillIDie]

We are two points away from our 1,000th League point folks . Currently on 998 points since 1979!

The points systems were as follows :- 1979/80, 1980/81,1983/84-1991/92 inclusive 2 points for a win 1 point for a draw
1981/82 Home win 3 points Home draw 1 Away win 4 points Away draw 2 points ( Abandoned after 1 season)
1982/83, ( The League was effectively over half way through the season as eventual champions Athlone were so far ahead they reverted to 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw for 1983/84) 1992/93 to date 3 points for a win and 1 for a draw

[CollegeTillIDie]

The only game Conor Sammon failed to score in proved our undoing in this season's Cup run. Losing a semi-final is the worst experience in the world. At least losing a cup final the players get a medal and you had the big occasion to experience. I'd prefer to go out in Round 1 than lose the semi-final.

[Poor Student]

I'd prefer to go out in Round 1 than lose the semi-final.

Why? That would just look crap and deny the club added revenue.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Why? You don't get your hopes up of course......plus with all the away draws we usually get the Cup ends up costing the club money.

[pineapple stu]

Gates are shared, and the away club doesn't have any hosting costs to deal with, so away Cup games - especially against the likes of Dundalk and Derry - probably make us money.

[Schumi]

Why? You don't get your hopes up of course...Why have a football team at all then?

[CollegeTillIDie]

Home record this season Played 17 Won 4 Drew 6 Lost 7 Goals for 19 against 23
Points 18 ... atrocious. Last time we had a record this poor was....2000/01 and what happened to us that season.. oh yes... we were in the play-off.

[roversmad]

you lot have one of the most talented squads in the league and you are now in danger of haivng to play in relegation playoff.... whats going on??

[CollegeTillIDie]

roversmad

Haven't scored in 4 League and 1 Cup game.. You tell me! :(

[Angus]

you lot have one of the most talented squads in the league and you are now in danger of haivng to play in relegation playoff.... whats going on??

Thanks for the post - talented yes but by and large very young. Most of our squad is under 21 eligible and half of our main side dip in and out of the under 21 team.

If we keep them all we will have a super side in 2 / 3 years but the guys are young and gainign experience.

[pineapple stu]

you lot have one of the most talented squads in the league and you are now in danger of haivng to play in relegation playoff.... whats going on??
The team switched off after beating Derry in the Cup semi and beating Waterford in the league. Didn't expect Waterford, Galway and Longford to go on a a cumulative run of one defeat in 16. A lot stronger than our league position, but seems to be a - dare I say it? - lack of professionalism in the past few weeks.

[CollegeTillIDie]

UCD Aggregate League Appearances as at end of 2007:

Darren Quigley 96
Alan Mahon 230
Conor Kenna 116
Alan McNally 210
Tony Mc Donnell 307
Ronan Finn 39
Conan Byrne 49
Shane McFaul 24
Paul Byrne 36
Conor Sammon 70
Derek Doyle 57
Killian Gallagher 5
Brian King 16
Timmy Purcell 23
Paul Crowley 27
Bogdan Oprea 5
Evan McMillan 9
Greg Bolger 5
Matt Gregg 15
Ian Bermingham 24
Brian Shortall 38
Darren Forsyth 4
James O'Sullivan 1
Shane Fitzgerald 7
Pat Mc Walter 114
Paul Murphy 2
Peter Hynes 8
Francis Moran 2
Anthony Doyle 2

[CollegeTillIDie]

Congratulations to Paul Byrne on grabbing his 7th League goal of the season to top the Club's goalscoring charts for the season. Not bad for someone who missed more than a third of the season through injury. Conor who? :D

[DmanDmythDledge]

UCD Aggregate League Appearances as at end of 2007:

Darren Quigley 96
Alan Mahon 230
Conor Kenna 116
Alan McNally 210
Tony Mc Donnell 307
Ronan Finn 39
Conan Byrne 49
Shane McFaul 24
Paul Byrne 36
Conor Sammon 70
Derek Doyle 57
Killian Gallagher 5
Brian King 15
Timmy Purcell 23
Paul Crowley 27
Bogdan Oprea 5
Evan McMillan 9
Greg Bolger 5
Matt Gregg 15
Ian Bermingham 24
Brian Shortall 38
Darren Forsyth 4
James O'Sullivan 1
Shane Fitzgerald 7
Pat Mc Walter 114
Paul Murphy 2
Peter Hynes 8
Francis Moran 2
Anthony Doyle 2
Whether you want to accept it or not the Dublin City game happened. Don't know where some of your figures have come from either.


Darren Quigley 97
Matt Gregg 15
Alan Mahon 231
Conor Kenna 117
Alan McNally 212 13
Brian Shorthall 48 2
Evan McMillan 9
Ian Bermingham 22 1
Killian Gallagher 5
Conan Byrne 52 3
Shane Fitzgerald 7 2
Pat McWalter 112 20
Anthony Doyle 2
Greg Bolger 5
James O'Sullivan 1
Tony McDonnell 308 28
Paul Crowley 27
Ronan Finn 39 1
Shane McFaul 24 1
Brian King 15
Derek Doyle 57 7
Paul Byrne 43 14
Conor Sammon 69 13
Timmy Purcell 23 2
Francis Moran 3
Darren Forsyth 4
Peter Hynes 8
Paul Murphy 2 1

[pineapple stu]

Whether you want to accept it or not the Dublin City game happened. Don't know where some of your figures have come from either.
Officially, it didn't, so either format's acceptable.

Can you stop posting aggressive replies like that everytime CTID posts something you don't agree with?

[DmanDmythDledge]

Officially, it didn't, so either format's acceptable.
Sounds fair enough.

[CollegeTillIDie]

I'd be very interested to know how there is a discrepancy of more than 1 between my figures and those of others on this forum. There is a possibility that one of us got the wrong Byrne listed in some of the away games that we didn't attend.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Brian King came on as 3rd sub in the last game Away to Galway so his overall total is now 16.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Aggregate League Record now looks like this:-
Home Played 429 Won 162 Drew 126 Lost 141 Goals for 575 Against 494 Diff +81 Points 551 Potential points 1125 % success rate 48.97778

Away Played 428 Won 118 Drew 128 Lost 182 Goals for 401 Against 541 Diff -139 Points 447 Potential points 1137 % success rate 39.314

Overall 857 won 280 drew 254 Lost 323 scored 976 conceded 1035 Diff -59 Points 998

[CollegeTillIDie]

Okay at the risk of getting nerdy

Our win percentage overall is 32.6721%
Our draw percentage overall is 29.6383%
Our loss percentage overall is 37.6896%

At the end of next season we will have played 890 League games
So using the average percentage from 1979-2007 and projecting forward, if we had just an average campaign we would have a total of 291 wins 264 draws and 335 defeats at the end of next season. We will have 1014 average goals scored based on a goal per game average scored of 1.138856 and we will have 1075 goals conceded based on an average goals conceded per game of 1.207701.

So if we have a 33 game season we will have won 11 drawn 10 and lost 12 scored 38 and conceded 40 which would earn us 43 league points which might not be enough to avoid the drop given three teams will go down next year. And given we didn't manage even an average season in 2007 who knows?

[pineapple stu]

which would earn us 43 league points which might not be enough to avoid the drop given three teams will go down next year.
Wrong.

Highest ever points total a team has finished ninth on in 40. And even then you get a play off.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Wrong.

Highest ever points total a team has finished ninth on in 40. And even then you get a play off.
No playoff next season.

[pineapple stu]

Didn't realise that. Even better so.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Wrong.

Highest ever points total a team has finished ninth on in 40. And even then you get a play off.

There's a first time for everything stu. If we don't get 43 points we could be in trouble given three go down.

[pineapple stu]

Given that I was looking at fourth bottom, we're now looking at about 38 points as the highest anyone's finished in tenth with. Ever. If we get 43 points - which, again, had Sligo in sixth this year - we'll be fine.

There is indeed a first time for everything; I reckon we'll need 99 points next year to stay up. :rolleyes:

[CollegeTillIDie]

League Appearances League Goals
Darren Quigley 18 0
Matt Gregg 15 0
Alan Mahon 29 0
Conor Kenna 32+1 sub 0
Alan McNally 28+1 sub 1
Brian Shorthall 8+3sub 0
Evan McMillan 6+3 sub 0
Ian Bermingham 22+1 sub 1
Killian Gallagher 2+3 sub 0
Conan Byrne 29+2 sub 3
Shane Fitzgerald 5+2sub 2
Pat McWalter 12+1sub 1
Anthony Doyle 2 0
Greg Bolger 1+4 sub 0
James O'Sullivan 0+1sub 0
Tony McDonnell 12+7sub 0
Paul Crowley 13+6 sub 0
Ronan Finn 18+5 sub 0
Shane McFaul 23+1 sub 1
Brian King 11+5 sub 0
Derek Doyle 19+4 sub 5
Paul Byrne 16+4 sub 7
Conor Sammon 31 6
Timmy Purcell 6+16 sub 2
Francis Moran 1+2 sub 0
Darren Forsyth 1+3 sub 0
Peter Hynes 4+4sub 0
Paul Murphy 0+2 1
Bogdan Oprea 2+3 sub 1

[CollegeTillIDie]

Leading League Goalscorer at UCD Season by season since joining the ELOI

1979/80 Martin Moran 9 League goals (30 League game season)
1980/81 Martin Moran 10 League goals (30 League game season)
1981/82 Ken O'Doherty 5 League goals (30 League game season)
1982/83 Ken O'Doherty 7 League goals (26 League game season)
1983/84 John Cullen 5 League goals (26 League game season)
1984/85 Joe Hanrahan 6 League goals (30 League game season)
1985/86 Brendan Murphy 5 League goals (22 League game season)
1986/87 Peter Hanrahan 5 League goals (18 League game season)
1987/88 Mark McKenna 7 League goals (27 League game season)
1988/89 Mark McKenna 7 League goals (27 League game season)
David Tilson 7 League goals (27 League game season)
1989/90 Mick Kavanagh 6 League goals (33 League game season)
1990/91 Paul Cullen 11 League goals (27 League game season)
1991/92 Paul Cullen 9 League goals (27 League game season)
Darren O'Brien 9 League goals (27 League game season)
1992/93 Darren O'Brien 11 League goals (27 League game season)
1993/94 Darren O'Brien 13 League goals (27 League game season)
1994/95 Michael O'Byrne 14 League goals (27 League game season)
1995/96 Michael O'Byrne 14 League goals (33 League game season)
1996/97 Robert Griffin 7 League goals (33 League game season)
1997/98 Jason Sherlock 13 League goals ( 33 League games 2 play-offs)
1998/99 Michael O'Byrne 7 League goals (33 League game season)
1999/2000 Ciaran Martyn 8 League goals ( 33 League game season)
2000/01 Tony Mc Donnell 7 League goals (33 League games 2 play-offs)
2001/02 Robbie Martin 11 League goals ( 33 League game season)
2002/03 Robbie Doyle 7 League goals ( 27 League game season)
2003 Robert Griffin 4 League goals ( 36 League game season)
Robert McAuley 4 League goals ( 36 League game season)
2004 Willie Doyle 15 League goals ( 33 League game season) Club record
2005 Patrick McWalter 7 League goals ( 33 League game season)
2006 Conor Sammon 7 League goals ( 33 League game season)
2007 Paul Byrne 7 League goals ( 33 League game season)

[CollegeTillIDie]

UCD League Season scoring record tallies

2004 Willie Doyle 15 League goals ( club record) First Division
1995/96 Michael O'Byrne 14 League goals ( Prem. Div. Club record)
1994/95 Michael O'Byrne 14 League goals ( prev. First Div. Club record)
1997/98 Jason Sherlock 13 League goals ( second highest Prem. Div. tally)
1993/94 Darren O'Brien 13 League goals ( club record till 1994/95)
1990/91 Paul Cullen 11 League goals ( club record till 1993/94)
1992/93 Darren O'Brien 11 League goals ( joint record till 1993/94)
1980/81 Martin Moran 10 League goals ( club record from 1981 to 1991)
1979/80 Martin Moran 9 League goals ( original club record in a season)

What are the odds on someone breaking the 15 barrier next season?

[DmanDmythDledge]

Alan McNally is now the fourth most capped league player for UCD. He overtook Robbie Griffin with his appearance against Finn Harps.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Alan Mahon has reached 250 league appearances for the club.

Will there be a presentation at the game on Saturday?