Setanta Cup - Shels Vs Cork

[Buile Shuibhne]

Monday night's match WILL NOT be a ticket game.

Admissioon by cash at the stiles - Adults €15 - Child/OAP €7

[EnDai]

Excellent! :D

[ollie]

should be a good game with both teams coming off convincing wins on friday. :ball:
hopefully some our players will skake off their injuries.
any1 with news on doyler's or flynnny's injury?

[TommyGaynor]

Any idea what the City defence will look like, what with the two buckos missing? Is Big Derek ready to step in for Bennett?

[A face]

Is Big Derek ready to step in for Bennett?

Now you're talkin' ..... And i hope he adopts his "take no sh!te" policy !!

Bring it on !! :D

[Éanna]

Monday night's match WILL NOT be a ticket game.

Admissioon by cash at the stiles - Adults €15 - Child/OAP €7could be wrong, but i was under the impression clubs were meant to produce ticket stubs as part of the licensing process?

as for the game, really looking forward to it. I think a result would be yet another statement of intent from City, and TBH, the pressure is on shels. They could win and still go out, if city put up a decent score v Ports. So they'll have to go for it, and that will suit us perfectly- he longer it stays 0-0, the better our chances.

[A face]

It'll be the Evergreen for me i'd say !!

It was good atmosphere lads game so definitely the place to get to i'd say !!

[Éanna]

It'll be the Evergreen for me i'd say !! sunshine supporter :p Seriously though, don't forget your passport if you go to the Evergreen, its like walking into the British Embassy there or something with all the ****in premier**** fans :rolleyes:

[A face]

with all the ****in premier**** fans :rolleyes:

I was suprised the last night to be fair mostly city fans but yeah .... it is a stronghold for barstoolers !!

[adamd164]

Monday night's match WILL NOT be a ticket game.

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could be wrong, but i was under the impression clubs were meant to produce ticket stubs as part of the licensing process?

Typically unprofessional approach by the Sheliban. :rolleyes:

[patsh]

Monday night's match WILL NOT be a ticket game.

Admissioon by cash at the stiles - Adults €15 - Child/OAP €7
Ollie's biscuit tin is still in operation.....the revenue would love to get their hands on that.....;)

[pete]

Winner of group essentially gets 80k so could be 50k ridding on this game tonight. Is this the biggest prize in eL history?

Team will be:
Greg, Dan, Derek, Hoggie
Billy, George, Colin, Liam
Doyler, Behan

Bench:
McNulty, Gamble, Fenn, O'Flynn, Long, O'Donovan, Guthrie

Derek didn't play in u-21 game on saturday so i think Rico will gamble.

[Ruairi]

Derek didn't play in u-21 game on saturday so i think Rico will gamble.

Derek wasnt registered to play in time unfortunatley, so i think greg centre half, billy left full and roy o'donovan right mid... opr maybe lally at left back

[pete]

Derek wasnt registered to play in time unfortunatley, so i think greg centre half, billy left full and roy o'donovan right mid... opr maybe lally at left back

Forgot about registration.

I think Gamble will come in midfield then.

Betting:
Shels 81/100
Draw 2/1
City 13/4

[daveh]

half-time 0-0
i didnt see it but apparently behan missed an absolute sitter

[razor]

1 down Harris header, super save by Devine.
No way on this earth was 100% of the ball over the line.
B@stards

[Risteard]

Presume its over

1 down Harris header, super save by Devine.
No way on this earth was 100% of the ball over the line.
B@stards
Really don't wanna be moaning about this for three months but by jaysus i will if i have to.

[Risteard]

Final score 1 nil.
Still in our hands.
Just beat Portadown 2 nil if i'm correct.

[razor]

These Northern officials don't appear to be up to scratch.
Mick Devine more or less said so in his post match interview.
Funnily enough Pat Fenlon didn't see it.

[exile]

yep micko had a rant saying that northern refs are not up to el standards i didnt know the el had standards but he said they were just not good enough and shouldnt be refing down here

[A face]

Funnily enough Pat Fenlon didn't see it.

If you can find anyone that actually saw it ... i'll give them €150000 !! :eek:

Not a chance in hell that was a goal .... that ref gave us nothing (barr two fúck ups on his behalf for a corner and line ball)

Rogers ..... studs shown is a yellow ...... when the leg is left there to try and take a guys head off is a straight red.

At least we know Shels aren't able to win without something like that going in their favour. Filth !!

[GavinZac]

bah :(

[EnDai]

Ref was appauling for entire match, but it was the linesman who signalled it had gone over.

[A face]

Rogers left his studs show so he could do malicious damage to one of our players. He wasn’t the only one either. Shels are taking the complete píss with this sort of play, it is gone beyond having a decision go in your favour. It is dangerous and sinister. I could be wrong, I’d need to see the footage again was Georgie tackled tonight with the intention of injuring him for a few games. I certainly seemed that way with some of the tackles the Heary made on Kearney.


Ref was appauling so were Shels.

[Gareth]

I'm going to need to take some tranquilers for the next forever, because I am not fully over the last batch of "We were cheated cos we lost" for the Corkies. I have the tape of the game and I'll have a look. If it was over the line,cool, if not, its a bit of a sickner for ye alright. But I doubt I could feel bad for Cork cos your going to complain enough to wish we didnt score probably. Waiting for the backlash....

By the way your timewasting in the first half was a disgrace :D

[A face]

Shels are filth.

[EnDai]

Nice to see the level of your maturity, are you 12 by any chance? I post agreeing with the opinions of the referee being crap, and you turn around with petty crap. Well done to you sir, round of applause. How, out of interest, were Shels appauling? They played the better football, and we'll never know if that was a goal or not, but the officials gave it. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, you should know yourself from the GOC incident the ref can make a bad decision, hell, look at the ManU-Spurs game from this year. Cork played for a draw, and it backfired. TOUGH FúCKING COOKIE! :p

[EnDai]

Shels are filth.

Georgie boy is filth. Fact.

[Gerrit]

According to a guy I spoke to afterwards, someone who was better positionned than me (I was in the main Shels stand, so other end of the pitch) the ball did cross the line. I do not dare to judge, impossible from behind the goal on the other side, the linesman seemed quite sure though.

And now let's hope Shels reaches the finals, I'm afraid though Portadown won't be too motivated anymore... N.Ireland league is over, and they cannot reach the final anyway. Still... Come on Ports !!

[EnDai]

Shame about lack of decent camera coverage!

[RedX]

I'm going to need to take some tranquilers for the next forever, because I am not fully over the last batch of "We were cheated cos we lost" for the Corkies. I have the tape of the game and I'll have a look. If it was over the line,cool, if not, its a bit of a sickner for ye alright. But I doubt I could feel bad for Cork cos your going to complain enough to wish we didnt score probably. Waiting for the backlash....

By the way your timewasting in the first half was a disgrace :D


Gareth..you can look at the tape 1,000 times and you still will not know whether it crossed the line or not..without a camera in the goal or close behind we will never know..being honest i thought it looked very suspect..i dont blame Shels for this..the battle with Heary and Kearney was fair in my view..Heary put in some strong challenges but what defender doesnt when you know you are playing against a good player..there was a good atmosphere and it was by no means a dirty game..the rivalry between our clubs is growing and is enjoyable..there are some people on here need to open there eyes and look at the whole picture..sometimes i feel people on here expect Shels to not even to tackle us..lads chill out and hopefully we can stuff an average Portadown in the final match...

[iceman]

The anti-Cork conspiracy continues - where will it end?

[Gareth]

RedX I thought it was a lively game, expect for the 20 minutes of the first half. a good even contest that I thought at times Shels had a chance or two more. Kearney was very good and had Owen for a bit but Owen came back with some good tackles. I did think Devine time watsed a good deal in teh first half. Apart from that, I didnt think it dirty???? I just hate having to deal with th eimagnary influcence some corkies think shels have over the universe!!

[Gerrit]

Decent TV coverage would be expected in a tournament organised by a TV station specialised in sports :confused:

I think to avoid discussions such as this, we don't have to look very far. In icehockey there have been infrared softwares attached to the goal posts for years, they offer you 100% certainty on weither the ball (or in icehockey case: puck) crossed the line or not. This would avoid many fuzz, after all we've had similar cases on European or World Championships or in Champions League, and then there's so much money involved...
Why does FIFA refuse to embrace technical evolution ?? Just put a camera on the posts, use camera images available for the referee in case of doubtful situations (offside or not, red card or not, ...) and you will avoid much troubles and frustration. I don't get why FIFA is still opposed against camera use.

[ccfcgirl]

I dont think it was a goal at all,im gutted.I hope we beat Portadown by 2 goals .

[Gerrit]

I hope you enjoyed your trip to the Real Capital :) Does city life look nice to you ? :D


*just joking*

[Mine'sABulmers]

By the way your timewasting in the first half was a disgrace :D
At least we showed you how to do it in the second half :D

[Superhoops]

If you can find anyone that actually saw it ... i'll give them €150000 !! :eek:

Not a chance in hell that was a goal .... that ref gave us nothing (barr two fúck ups on his behalf for a corner and line ball)

Rogers ..... studs shown is a yellow ...... when the leg is left there to try and take a guys head off is a straight red.

At least we know Shels aren't able to win without something like that going in their favour. Filth !!


Rogers left his studs show so he could do malicious damage to one of our players. He wasn’t the only one either. Shels are taking the complete píss with this sort of play, it is gone beyond having a decision go in your favour. It is dangerous and sinister. I could be wrong, I’d need to see the footage again was Georgie tackled tonight with the intention of injuring him for a few games. I certainly seemed that way with some of the tackles the Heary made on Kearney.

so were Shels.

Did it ever occur to you that on the night Cork weren't good enough! No use blaming the ref or anyone else bar yourselves.

[Anto McC]

Didn't think it was over the line myself even after looking at the footage but you can hardly blame Shels on that they didn't go looking for it,it was given to them.No worries though lads the ball is still in your court,all you have to do is beat a portadown side with nothing to play for by 2 goals at home,if you can't do that you don't deserve to be in the final.The only Shels player time wasting was Williams and we gave him a load of abuse for it cause we wanted to try and score a second goal.

[Slash/ED]

Gareth..you can look at the tape 1,000 times and you still will not know whether it crossed the line or not..without a camera in the goal or close behind we will never know..being honest i thought it looked very suspect..i dont blame Shels for this..the battle with Heary and Kearney was fair in my view..Heary put in some strong challenges but what defender doesnt when you know you are playing against a good player..there was a good atmosphere and it was by no means a dirty game..the rivalry between our clubs is growing and is enjoyable..there are some people on here need to open there eyes and look at the whole picture..sometimes i feel people on here expect Shels to not even to tackle us..lads chill out and hopefully we can stuff an average Portadown in the final match...

Well said that man.

Shels will regret settling for a one goal win, Cork will put two past Portadown, they're a far far superior side than Portadown.

The ref was dire but he was dire for both sides, or do Shels have the IFA in their back pocket too? :rolleyes: Typical Cork whinging, forgive me if I'm not overly sympathetic after the woeful antics of Georgie in the first match. He was dire for both sides, but as ever you only notice the decisions that don't go your way and cry conspiracy.

[crc]

City have it in their own hands now; a 2 goal win will do.
But how important could Bennet's disallowed goal in the first cork-Shels game, turn out to be, if City only beat the Ports by one??

[SÓC]

Noone can say if the ball was over the line or not for certain.

From what you could see on tv Devine's feet were well infront of the line as he dived for the ball. He ended up in the net.

How, with any degree of certanity could the lino claim he saw the ball cross the line when he was way further away that virtually anyone else?

[MariborKev]

There was a camera right behind the net, and it still wasn't conclusive.

[A face]

Shels are filth, its conclusive.

[Éanna]

Those officials were paid to give shels that game. I have no doubt whatsoever- I'll swear it on everything I own. It was a fix. Whether shels bought him, or Setanta paid him off to make the final game more interesting i don't know, but the goal aside (I haven't seen it on tv yet) he gave every possible (and some impossible) decisions to shels. Robbery of the highest order. The fact that EVERY player (shels included) played on afterwards is proof enough IMO

Message for Shels and their fans- don't bother calling George a cheat after tonight, ok?

[Slash/ED]

Robbery of the highest order. The fact that EVERY player (shels included) played on afterwards is proof enough IMO


Aside from the three who started celebrating before the decision was given? Harris, Baker and Byrne all thought it was a goal, as did the crowd behind the goal who were both Cork and Shels fans.

The ref was crap for both sides, typical (Of Cork) to only notice the decisions that don't go your way. There were plenty of chants of 'you don't know what your doing' and all sorts from the home crowd too, because he was crap. he wasn't biased, he was just crap, he missed out on plenty of handballs that should have been given Shels way too.

As ever it's a mass conspiracy against Cork though, the ref was paid, everyone in Northern Ireland hates Cork, the usual bullsh*t after a Cork defeat, does anyone pay any notice to it anymore?

The goal was 50/50, all the cameras in the ground and you couldn't tell eitherway. Some of the ball was definitely over the line, all of it or not is very difficult to tell given the cameras, but the linesman thought so and so did alot of the players, if the ref didn't give it Shels would have felt hard done by and if he did give it Cork would have felt hard done by, it's the way these things go.

If you've anything about you you'll beat Portadown by two goals though, so it all doesn't matter much.

[The Sheliban]

What about the two penalties in the first half, when there were two blatant handballs in the area by Cork defenders? All part of the anti-Cork conspiracy, I suppose.
Its easy to turn around and blame the ref, and I thought he got a lot wrong, for both sides, but neither side played to their full potential. Shels believe that just because we have Jamie up front, every attack has to take the form of a long, hopeful punt. We destroyed Pats and Bray by playing the ball along the ground - why change for Cork?
Cork seemed very negative, and Devine's time-wasting ultimately backfired on him.
Heary's tackles on Kearney were robust, but fair. Some people it appears cannot abide being beaten and need to seek out conspiracy theories.
Looking back, there were plenty of chances, but it was always going to be tight. I don't think though that the Ports are going to be quite the disillusioned pushovers that everyone expects.

[paudie]

I'll do one post about City's peformance and one about the goal.

The match- We didn't play that well unfortunately. For about 20 mins in the middle of the first have we couldn't string 2 passes together. The goal was coming at the start of the second half as we let Shels dominate.

After the goal we pushed forward a bit without really looking like we had a plan. Kearney should have done better with that header at the end and Fenn's control should have been better. Roy was unlucky with the header.

Shels looked a better team than us though they had few decent chances.

[paudie]

THE GOAL

I find it extremly hard to believe that the linesman could have been sure all the ball was over the line.

1. The ball was in the air so he must have made a judgement as to whether the ball was over the line, ie he didn't have the line right next to the ball to help him.

2. The header came from a cross rather than a corner so the asst ref must have been standing in line with the last defender and not on the goal line. He would have been looking at an angle roughly level with the 6 yard box. Not the best position to judge whether a very fast header was over the line or not.

3. From watching on TV I think Mick's feet might have been behind the line when he dived for the ball. Why this should prevent his hands from stopping all the ball going over the line I don't know.

It was a big call by the asst ref and I don't think he could have been anywhere near certain it was in.

It's amazing but all these marginal goal line decisions invariably go for the bigger team.

Last night, Man U v Tottenham, Juventus v Chievo in Serie A and another Serie A game this year I think involving either Milan or Juve.

Who says officials aren't influenced by big teams?

[Suetrol Ned]

Message for Shels and their fans- don't bother calling George a cheat after tonight, ok?


Fine. We're much better at it anyway! :D