Setanta Cup - Shels Vs Cork

[Gareth]

Éanna, I'll take that bet on all you own. Delivery of all you own can be arranged later so!!! And O'Callaghan is a cheat. His acts were independent. Last night Shels didn't cheat, the ref awarded them a goal. Nothing Shels could do to stop that. I can see Cork protesting if they scored that goal!! They are so noble!! :D

[thejollyrodger]

what goes around comes around. Last game down in the village was a disgrace. Cork were a bunch of thugs :mad:

Shels were the best team last night over the 90 minutes, we should have won by more by right

[Peadar]

Didn't think it was over the line myself even after looking at the footage but you can hardly blame Shels on that they didn't go looking for it,it was given to them.

Yeah, that's a fair point.
I think most City fans are annoyed with the official.
In order to give a decision like that, he must be 100% sure what he saw.
By all accounts, he couldn't possibly have been sure.

I hope all the officials watch the tape.
It's a sign of a bad official if they can't review their performance and at least privately, acknowledge their mistakes, then learn from them.

When all is said and done though, we didn't do enough to win the game either.

[razor]

We know what Shels are capable of but it was the linesman who gave the goal, so neither the ref nor the opposition can be blamed.

Thanks, Eamon Shanks

[Grasshopper 99]

Use guys created a great atmosphere last night against Shels, non stop, unlucky with the result, but keep the Singing up.

[EnDai]

Shels are filth, its conclusive.

You're a moron, its conclusive.


Those officials were paid to give shels that game. I have no doubt whatsoever- I'll swear it on everything I own. It was a fix. Whether shels bought him, or Setanta paid him off to make the final game more interesting i don't know, but the goal aside (I haven't seen it on tv yet) he gave every possible (and some impossible) decisions to shels. Robbery of the highest order. The fact that EVERY player (shels included) played on afterwards is proof enough IMO

Message for Shels and their fans- don't bother calling George a cheat after tonight, ok?

I again will take this bet. Its all down to opinions at the end of the day, but it was the officials ones that counted. I gueess next time CCFC get a controversial decision we'll start labeling you cheats for that, despite the fact of the decision probably had nothing to do with you.

Oh, by the way, Georgies a cheat, a diving disgusting scumbag of the highest order. Shelbourne got a lucky decision. I don't trhink we'd see you on here moaning, offering to give back the win etc, if this had happened at the other end.

You clearly missed your blatant handballs in the box, there was a Shelbourne handball in the box too (Clearly another anti-CCFC conspiracy), and the abuse from the majority of the Shelbourne supporters to the referee too as he was appauling. FOR BOTH SIDES.

[edit] is C O R K a censored word now?

[Soko]

Thats wasn't a controversial decision, it was a disgraceful one. I'm sick to death of these mind boggling decisions consistently going against us like Bennos goal (Which actually crossed the line) or the penalty at home to Bohs at the end of the season. I brought a friend to his first game that night and we nearly considered going home after that and I'm far more angry now after that farce from those northern ****ers last night.

[niamh]

I think most City fans are annoyed with the official.
In order to give a decision like that, he must be 100% sure what he saw.
By all accounts, he couldn't possibly have been sure.


True. It was the lineman and the match officials that were the issue. He can not maintain he was absolutely certain the ball was 100 percent over the line because not even repeated camera angles can be certain.

I was hoping the Northern Ireland refs would show up the muppets that ref in the eL but they have been terrible in general.
The ref last night was no better. I don't think I've ever seen a worse decision but the ref is going to go with his linesman if he is not sure.
As for Shels, Setanta, the board or Rico being to blame...It were the linesman's decision.

There's no outlet for justice though so as we can do is beat Portadown to put this right.

[A face]

Shels are filth !!
Shels are filth !!

[Jim Smith]

Shels are filth !!
Shels are filth !!
Cop yourself on for goodness sake!

[Peadar]

Great crowd again last night lads.
Well done!
Picture here... (http://corkcityfc.ie/gallery/displayimage.php?album=99&pos=6)

[pete]

Shels did not cheat - any city fan who claims they did cannot be taken seriously.

Referees & linesmen are amateur but if clubs & league are'to become more professional then the officials have to also improve.

The "Goal"
1. As said already there is no chance the linesman could be certain given his positioning & the fact he'd be watching for offside & not the goal line. Was a shocking decision & huge amount of cash involved!
2. Supporters will jump up claiming goal anytime the ball gets near the line. We all do it so can't claim this means anything.
3. IMO Harris looked very surprised that gosl was given - check out the look on his face on tv.

The Game:
IMO neither side deserved to win 0-0 would have been fair.
City were marginally on top in 1st half.
Shels gained upper hand in possession stakes in 2nd when city gave the ball away too much as Behan & Fenn were wasteful.
Kearney & Heary had fair battle. Heavy but mainly fair challenges. Heary deserved his booking as was beaten & would have been badly exposed if Kearney had passed him.

City were as good as shels overall. Aside from "goal" shels only had Harris shot i think in 1st half. City had Behan terrible missed header plus header off crossbar in 2nd.
Considering we were missing O'Flynn, Doyle, Bennet, Murphy plus manager decision to leave Gamble on the bench showed we can match shels. As Rico said on tv now time to show we can pass shels.

[Gareth]

In the first half we had more than one chance. Alan Moore had a shot saved from Devine after 5 minutes, there was also a goal mouth scramble which in the end was cleared and Wes and Byrne had chances. Just to point out.

I do have to agree fully with Pete on the comments of some people. Its fine to be piste off when your team loses esp if to a goal like that but some of the comments are off the wall. Eanna is making a play for most Insane post on the Shels site at the moment, and I think A Face is winning most childish here!!

[A face]

Cop yourself on for goodness sake!

No ..... i mean every bit of it and still stand by it.

[pete]

Anymore name calling & will be handing out yellow cards as quick as a NI referee ;)

[Poor Student]

I'm not gonna even touch the goal issue with a barge pole. The only camera angle the seemed to show the goal line Setanta did not slow down on.

Anyway, anyone have an estimate for the crowd? How many did Cork bring? (Sorry if this has been answered already)

[Slash/ED]

Christ lads it's not like you aren't bleedin' used to loseing to us.

[pete]

Anyway, anyone have an estimate for the crowd? How many did Cork bring? (Sorry if this has been answered already)

Main Stand: less than half full. 1300?
Ballybough: 30
Riverside: 300 city fans?
New Stand: 80% full. How many is that.

2500?

I'm not bashing shels for the sake of it & should used to it at this stage but IMO the crowd was very poor even by shels standards. Shels fans behidn the goal at least make an effort but not a peek from main stand until after non-goal.

[patsh]

Lads lets face it,
we didn't play well last night, we had at least 4 players who are starting eleven out, and it took an utterly disgraceful decision for $hels to beat us.
Rico, Dolan and all tthe others can stop saying that $hels are the best team in the country. THEY ARE NOT.
Cork City are and all we need is for our own players to realise that
$hels are scared of us. Fenlon brought on a f*cking mullacking thug like Harris to outjump Greg, not difficult as Harris is well over 6 foot, Greg is 5, 9/10.
Don't mind all the jackeen f*cks who come on here shouting "its all a conspiracy against Cork". They can only repeat this because they NEVER deal with the fact that last night they got a goal from an official not from a player.
We ARE BETTER, lads.
Rico BEAT IT INTO OUR TEAM.
WE ARE BETTER THAN $HELS.
THEY ARE AFRAID OF US.
WE WILL PREVAIL.

[Slash/ED]

If you keep saying it Patsh, it might come true!

[De Town]

If you keep saying it Patsh, it might come true!
Great reply :D

[Gareth]

patsh, are you actually giving out to Fenlon for putting a 6 footer against a smaller defender?? Hahaha, thats brilliant. Cop on!!! Did you score last night, no. Get over yourself!!! :D

[pete]

The only good thing i'll say for yesterday was that pitch in Tolka was best i've ever seen it. Clearly not having 3-4 teams playing on it weekly is helping.

[Troy.McClure]

Christ lads it's not like you aren't bleedin' used to loseing to us.

Fair play, thats one of the better retorts Ive heard in a good while :D

[Sheridan]

Found the game hugely enjoyable myself, but Rico's tactics were badly deficient. Cork's midfield offered their back four little or no protection, and allowed Hoolahan, Moore and Baker to operate unimpeded in the final third. Shels were allowed to switch the ball from flank to flank with impunity, which in turn enabled them to keep Cork pinned in their own half when they needed to dampen their ardour.

Fenn should have scored in the first minute and contributed little. Behan's movement, awareness and support play are top-notch, finishing will improve with experience.

As for the goal, I daresay we shall never know for sure. From one angle, the assistant's decision looked at least plausible. Devine's hands were certainly behind the line, but this proves nothing. Incidentally, WTF was Devine playing at when he came up for that corner near the end? That tactic is appropriate to situations whereby the implications of a 0-2 defeat are no different from those of a 0-1, on this occasion the difference was vast.

So what happens if Cork beat Portadown 3-2, thereby attaning a record identical to Shels', and moreover with identical head-to-head results?

[Slash/ED]

So what happens if Cork beat Portadown 3-2, thereby attaning a record identical to Shels', and moreover with identical head-to-head results?

Shels go through, as it goes to cards recieved, and Shels are already one point behind Cork in that category (one red each, Cork have one more yellow). Seems a bit of a daft way to solve things, no doubt Setanta saw this situation coming and put that rule in to screw over Cork so much because they like Scottish and Northern Irish refs are conspiring against them at an alarming rate.

[Citygirl]

What a horrible way to lose..couldn't make the game so watched it at home and there was no way of telling whether or not the ball crossed the line.It was absolutely sickening. Just a few points about the game, thought Fenn was awful. He wasn't in the game at all like. Denis missed an absolute sitter in the first half and he really should have done better. It was great to see Roy O'Donovan get a start and I really thought that he did well. He was very unlucky not to score when his shot hit the bar. I thought that the lads did well enough overall and it was interesting to see so many young players on the bench. An 18-year old in Shane Long, two 19-year olds in Admir and Gutsy, Nults, Gamble and Tynan.. Really young players with bright futures ahead of them. The experience of being involved in a game like last nights will stand to them in the future.

[patsh]

We ARE BETTER, lads.
Rico BEAT IT INTO OUR TEAM.
WE ARE BETTER THAN $HELS.
THEY ARE AFRAID OF US.
WE WILL PREVAIL.

btw, you do not need a reply to a statement.

[Slash/ED]

Yeah, head to head results, league positions, trophy counts, none of these prove anything. Cork are better because, well, they just are! And you've got the over sized bold font to prove it!

[patsh]

Some old jackeen goobledegook
We ARE BETTER, lads.
Rico BEAT IT INTO OUR TEAM.
WE ARE BETTER THAN $HELS.
THEY ARE AFRAID OF US.
WE WILL PREVAIL.

[Slash/ED]

And people wonder why people think Corks internet fans are clowns.

Only a Cork fan would call league positions, head to head results and silverwear as goobledegook. Sums the whole club up nicely.

[Gareth]

We ARE BETTER, lads.
Rico BEAT IT INTO OUR TEAM.
WE ARE BETTER THAN $HELS.
THEY ARE AFRAID OF US.
WE WILL PREVAIL.

Are all 3,967 of your posts equally muck?

[Slash/ED]

Are all 3,967 of your posts equally muck?

Pretty much, yeah.

[patsh]

SlashEd;Gareth

Same old jackeen sh*t
$hels are sh*tting it.

[A face]

$hels are sh*tting it.

And it is telling !!

City are definitely a better quality team, there is no question of that now.

Shels just keep dropping in my opinion. There is not one decent attribute that you could remotely credit to them not to mind comment on and that is a very poor state of affairs when they are a team that are meant to be pioneering the way in Irish football. They are filth .... pure and utter.

Makes me sick to say the least.

[Real ale Madrid]

I have not posted in a while – he is my tuppence worth about all the issues last night.

City’s performance was excellent I thought we passed it a lot but played a good few long balls as well and tried to pull the immobile centre halfs of shels away from the centre and it worked well – City created a good few chances – people forget that Fenn had a simple chance after about 30 seconds as well as O’Donovan’s and Behans headers should have both hit the target – Shels had chances too but all in all it was a terrific match played on a wonderful surface – if the pitch at Turners Cross was half as good City would not be having so much trouble winning a league match at home. I find it unbelieveable that some City fans think we did not play well

This thing about Shels paying Refs and all this conspiracy is bordering on the absolutely ridiculous. If City loses to Shels some people think it an excuse to rant and rave about Ollie Byrne, Fenlon and all this rubbish – Cork City fans should concentrate on the fact that without 4 first teamers they created enough chances last night to win at Tolka and probably should have done. Having said that Shels seemed equally bitter after the game on Easter Monday so I guess its just the nature of the rivalry of undoubtedly the two best teams in the league.

As for the goal well its very disappointing to travel all the way up see your team play well and see a linesman make a decision like that – if you are not sure then its no goal – simple as that.

As for Heary/Kearney battle – there was nothing illegal about Heary’s tackles I think and he duly got booked for a professional foul – says a lot about Kearney that he attacked him at every opportunity despite the physical nature of Hearys play. It was a great battle between two great players.

The crowd was pathetic – no more that 1,000 shels fans there in my opinion which is a very poor effort indeed – heres hoping for good weather for the Portadown game and a bumper crowd.

[Slash/ED]

And it is telling !!

City are definitely a better quality team, there is no question of that now.


Absolutley, sure what does a league position, a few trophys and head to head results prove?

[Troy.McClure]

O’Donovan’s and Behans headers should have both hit the target

Too true Madrid. Just to point out though that a Shels player got a deflection on Roys header and knocked upwards to the bar, it would have been on target otherwise.

I have to say that Im actually getting sick of this antiShels stuff myself :eek: I thought that both teams gave it 110% and were left down by a poor ref and a worse linesman. If it had gone the other way with us getting a 'goal' like that, we would have been loving it (although at this stage its about the 5th strange to unbelievable decision thats gone against us this season!) :mad:

[patsh]

Cork City fans should concentrate on the fact that without 4 first teamers they created enough chances last night to win at Tolka and probably should have done.
And $hels know it too.
$hels are sh*tting it. Their brief time is over.
OUR TIME HAS COME!

[Slash/ED]

And $hels know it too.
$hels are sh*tting it. Their brief time is over.
OUR TIME HAS COME!

Our 'brief' time? We've had more trophy winning seasons than Cork City have had seasons at all.

[patsh]

I have to say that Im actually getting sick of this antiShels stuff myself :eek: I thought that both teams gave it 110% and were left down by a poor ref and a worse linesman. If it had gone the other way with us getting a 'goal' like that, we would have been loving it (although at this stage its about the 5th strange to unbelievable decision thats gone against us this season!) :mad:
Yes indeed.They are just another fixture to get 3 points from.
Just another hoofball team for us to beat.
6th really bad decision.
3 perfectly good goals disallowed.
A goal conjured up by an inept official.
Mickey D being booked for pointing out the rules of the game to said official.
Gamble being sent off for being almost cut in half.

But the worm will turn.
OUR TIME HAS COME!

[patsh]

The rare ould times, bang bang and ould monto
$hels are sh*tting it....

[Slash/ED]

Typical Cork though, all mouth halfway through the seasons. Just like last season, the season before and nearly every other season in their 21 year history of rebelling against silverwear.

Win a league, THEN call yourselves the best.

[patsh]

......Penny apples...oh be the hokey.....the ould ringsend air.....give us anudder one jemser.....
$hels are SH*TTING it......

[ollie]

only saw the goal on tv and its impossible to tell from that.
i think some of the posts here should have the time of the post taken into consideration.(the earlier ones anyway)
some lads are just taking the complete p!ss now

[Peadar]

And people wonder why people think Corks internet fans are clowns.



$hels are sh*tting it.

I take it you guys didn't meet up for pre/post match pints then!? :D

[Slash/ED]

I take it you guys didn't meet up for pre/post match pints then!? :D

I was busy pre match passing a few brown envelopes to the linesman, maybe next time.

[Peadar]

I was busy pre match passing a few brown envelopes to the linesman

Has Fintan Cassidy retired then? ;)

[Slash/ED]

Has Fintan Cassidy retired then? ;)

He was busy having a chat with the officals for the Portadown match in the Cross next week

[patsh]

I take it you guys didn't meet up for pre/post match pints then!? :D
Aw sure wasn't I only saying to de moth de udder noight, how it would be grea to meet bangbang and ould mr. brennan for a few pints o de plain with de cark boys.....