Opening weekends fixtures

[Jack B]

Just like after last year's opening night draw with Bray, we have no chance of winning the league...

Absolutely quaking yous are.

[ToberonaTornado]

Absolutely quaking yous are.

:D Drew our first 3 matches last season.

How did Forrester get on tonight?

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Stuart Byrne - manages to turn a question about Finn Harps chances this season into 'three strong Dublin clubs this season'.

Ah in fairness I imagine being a pundit is much like doing the Leaving Cert Irish oral, unless it's changed since my day, if you don't like the question topic you take the question you're asked, answer it briefly then talk about something slightly connected for a bit so you don't just end up with 10 second answers

[Jack B]

:D Drew our first 3 matches last season.

How did Forrester get on tonight?

I was surprised he even played in the first place to be honest. As much as people cited him being in full time training with Aberdeen I think there's a difference between what his situation was there and being completely match ready (by his standards). He had some nice touches when he got involved but given he was essentially given a free role behind Drennan he wasn't as present as you'd want. The more he plays the better he'll be you'd imagine.

[sbgawa]

Well deserved win.
Ronan Finn was immense , have to take my hat off to him considering mceneff Byrne Watts all out their as well and he might have been under pressure. Great to see Trevor Clarke come on for last 15 mins.

[Candystripe]

Absolutely delighted with Derry cities performance tonight. It could have been 6-0. Over 70% possession and as serious number of shots on and off target. Time will tell if we're as good as what we looked tonight.

If we are, Derry city might actually compete this season for top four.

[dundalkfc10]

Finn is what Dundalk have missed to push on in Europe ever since he left

I hate to say that but it’s true

[joey B]

Hard to know what to make of us tonight, reality is in the second half Bohs missed a couple of sitters and we struggled to create anything, should have went 1 up though but then we're punished before half time which had as much to do with a Center half playing left back and not covering across than anything special from Bohs, Dundalk next and then Pat's away ,it won't be getting any easier!

[trevy]

It was a sickener to lose to a goal with the last kick of the game at the RSC especially a soft goal from a corner. Lovely free kick from Kevin Lynch on his debut to give us the lead. Rovers dominated the 2nd half and Greene equalised. They had a lot of chances but looked like Waterford had held on for a draw till Boyle's last gasp winner.

[Dalymountrower]

Harps had a good first half hour ,Bohs looked as if they never played together before.Tgen Dinny scored and second half Bohs clicked and should have been three up.
Bad challenge from Raf,unlike him, should have been a second yellow.
Huge crowd, bars hopping and a lot of new members and season tickets sold.Very good Harps support 100+
Harps are a big physical side and will cause problems for a lot of teams.
Depressing that McDowells attacked wtf Cork?

[Burnsie]

Was at Richmond as a neutral. (Was also in McDowells beforehand, but in the bar side rather than the lounge so didn't see what went down at all. Sounded like fairly serious ruck for 3/4 minutes. Brian Kerr was at the bar shaking his head but possibly because he was next in line to order when they stopped serving.

Anyway, I thought Pats deserved the win, but mainly for the resilience they showed to a late Cork onslaught, because it wasn't pretty. Very few chances created by either side other than from set plays. Pats played some nice combinations but in completely innocuous areas. Cork were much more direct but utterly ineffectual in open play - the three Pats centre backs were all up for the challenge and very impressive.

Clifford got man of the match and it's hard to disagree, although I thought Webster was very impressive for Pats on his debut. On the other hand, Drennan sturggled to make an impact, Forrester was anonymous and Rhys McCabe played like a wind-up mouse, charging around the place sometimes to good effect but often recklessly.

Not much to shout about for Cork. I liked the look of Griffin the fullback, and Daire O'Connor had some bright moments but the game bypassed him a lot too,

Great to see such a big attendance and that it was matched around the grounds. No doubt it'll be an outlier for the season, but hopefully the average will trend upwards.

[Asterix]

Vojic has been given the winning goal for rovers last night. One goal for both of our strikers, a good way to start the season.

[CityRebel]

Half time .... Cork with the two best chances. Have to feel ripped off.

A fee cork fans disgracing their club in McDowells and the black lion.
A few arrests and seemingly a few in ambulances .


Also not indicative of all Cork fans but was an absolute embarrassment that they caused trouble to the point McDowells had to close earlier. Throwing bottles about with elderly people, women and children there made the whole vibe quite sour. Hopefully the few involved get caught and dealt with.

Ye make it sound like City fans threw bottles at each other while pious Pats fans looked on. Come back to reality lads. For balance, I wouldn't bring a kid to a match in Inchicore after previous incidents, the matchday experience is an embarrassment to Irish football.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Ye make it sound like City fans threw bottles at each other while pious Pats fans looked on. Come back to reality lads. For balance, I wouldn't bring a kid to a match in Inchicore after previous incidents, the matchday experience is an embarrassment to Irish football.

Despite what you're trying to say here it does not take two people to start throwing bottles and from what I've heard from various sources Pats fans did nothing and to try shift any of the blame onto them is just not on

[CityRebel]

Despite what you're trying to say here it does not take two people to start throwing bottles and from what I've heard from various sources Pats fans did nothing and to try shift any of the blame onto them is just not on

Throwing bottles isn't acceptable by anyone.

[D24Saint]

Ye make it sound like City fans threw bottles at each other while pious Pats fans looked on. Come back to reality lads. For balance, I wouldn't bring a kid to a match in Inchicore after previous incidents, the matchday experience is an embarrassment to Irish football.

There has never been trouble in the pubs in Inchicore until your mob rolled in.

[Crosshead]

Despite what you're trying to say here it does not take two people to start throwing bottles and from what I've heard from various sources Pats fans did nothing and to try shift any of the blame onto them is just not on

Well here's a Pats fan saying he responded to taunting with slaps
https://twitter.com/WilloRyan/status/1096551516968763392?s=19

And apparently the City team bus had windows smashed after the game.

[redarmyfaction]

Ye make it sound like City fans threw bottles at each other while pious Pats fans looked on. Come back to reality lads. For balance, I wouldn't bring a kid to a match in Inchicore after previous incidents, the matchday experience is an embarrassment to Irish football.

There has been many reports in recent seasons of Tinkery behaviour, Cork have now replaced Dale Farm as the common denominator in these stories and seem to have copied the "fire bottles at a child's tactic of the latter.

[patrickccfc]

I was in McDowell's before the game on the bar side. Chatting to a few pats fans and having a quiet drink. All was grand and I left then and was queueing for a ticket. I was only out of the pub barely a minute when there was a commotion. Didn't see anything that went on but it's something I can't stand seeing happening. Anyone going for the first time or bringing their kids for the first time could be put off going again over things like that.

Great attendance at the game last night, biggest crowd I've seen at Richmond. Thought it was a very poor game. Silly penalty cost us what would've been an acceptable point. We could've been 2 up before that if it wasn't for Brendan Clarke. One point blank save from a corner and then an unbelievable Gordon Banks-esque save got down very low to deny what looked a certain goal.

I was happy enough with the first half despite being a goal down. But the second was abysmal. The amount of times we retrieved the ball in defense and it was aimlessly kicked out for a throw or given straight to a pats player.

Hoping for an improvement next week, I think it will take time for us to gel with the new lads coming in.

[TonyD]

Anyway, I thought Pats deserved the win, but mainly for the resilience they showed to a late Cork onslaught, because it wasn't pretty. Very few chances created by either side other than from set plays. Pats played some nice combinations but in completely innocuous areas. Cork were much more direct but utterly ineffectual in open play - the three Pats centre backs were all up for the challenge and very impressive.

Clifford got man of the match and it's hard to disagree, although I thought Webster was very impressive for Pats on his debut. On the other hand, Drennan sturggled to make an impact, Forrester was anonymous and Rhys McCabe played like a wind-up mouse, charging around the place sometimes to good effect but often recklessly.

Great to see such a big attendance and that it was matched around the grounds. No doubt it'll be an outlier for the season, but hopefully the average will trend upwards.

Would agree with most of that. Not a good footballing spectacle at all, more of a battle, but we stood up to it well, which probably wouldn't have been the case in the last few years. The three centre backs in particular stood up well to the late Cork onslaught. Shows that Harry has probably a more pragmatic side than Bucko, you'd wonder did he go with the three lads on this occasion knowing what to expect from Cork. We tried to play a bit in patches, but didn't really create anything of note. Hopefully we can improve in that respect. All in all a very good result though. Cork will remain hard to beat.

Great to see such a big crowd too. Hopefully a good number make it a regular thing.

[TonyD]

We could've been 2 up before that if it wasn't for Brendan Clarke. One point blank save from a corner and then an unbelievable Gordon Banks-esque save got down very low to deny what looked a certain goal.


Yeah two great saves, first was straight at him I suppose, but good reactions. Second looked a terrific save from where I was. It reminded me a little bit of the Banks save too. Appropriate given the week that's in it.

[D24Saint]

Poor game of football, It was a dogfight in the end. Our formation was a huge change from previous seasons and was a brave move by Harry. It took some hard working performances to get us over the line particularly from Clifford who must be in ribbons today after the work rate he put in, Lennon had a good game aswell his range of passing is very impressive for a chap of twenty. It was all in all a great night with a fantastic crowd expect for the unsavoury incident before the game.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Well here's a Pats fan saying he responded to taunting with slaps
https://twitter.com/WilloRyan/status/1096551516968763392?s=19

And apparently the City team bus had windows smashed after the game.

Not only does that tweet not say where the "slaps" took place it doesn't give anything like a full story as to what happened.

[Crosshead]

Not only does that tweet not say where the "slaps" took place it doesn't give anything like a full story as to what happened.

No but I'm pointing out that this narrative forming on here that poor innocent Pats fans were blameless for any wrongdoings last night is nonsense. The bystanders in that pub were innocent, and those responsible are scum, pure and simple, but there were a tiny minority of troublemakers among both sets of supporters last night which is disappointing when the vast, vast majority of both supporters just wanted to watch a game of football.

I'll denounce scumbags regardless of who they proclaim to support, I think they're a poison on our sport, but this notion that it's only City fans causing trouble is head in the sand stuff does nothing to address the bigger picture problem.

[CityRebel]

Not only does that tweet not say where the "slaps" took place it doesn't give anything like a full story as to what happened.

And yet people saying "Cork City fans are the devil!!!!!!!111111111" are giving the full story.... :rolleyes:

[Jack B]

Some weird responses here. Was just condemning the actions of folks who rocked up and initiated the grief, not cause a tit-for-tat on the quality of match day experiences (weird) or deny that there are Pats fans who haven't behaved questionably both on this occasion and previously.

But it's far from a common occurrence at home games so it stands to reason that there'll be a bit more emphasis placed on the behaviour of a small number of away fans who, across two separate pubs, turned up singing about and mocking a fan that had passed away and caused enough grief that a pub had to be closed and children ended up in tears outside.

This isn't to say that it's representative of all Cork fans, nor that all Pats fans who responded are completely innocent, just that it was pretty unfortunate and unsavoury. Think we can all calm down with going on the defensive as if the integrity of the club itself has been targeted. On the whole it was a great night for the league and that shouldn't be overshadowed by the actions of a few muppets.

Especially because we won, obviously. That should be the central theme here really.

[D24Saint]

Some weird responses here. Was just condemning the actions of folks who rocked up and initiated the grief, not cause a tit-for-tat on the quality of match day experiences (weird) or deny that there are Pats fans who haven't behaved questionably both on this occasion and previously.

But it's far from a common occurrence at home games so it stands to reason that there'll be a bit more emphasis placed on the behaviour of a small number of away fans who, across two separate pubs, turned up singing about and mocking a fan that had passed away and caused enough grief that a pub had to be closed and children ended up in tears outside.

This isn't to say that it's representative of all Cork fans, nor that all Pats fans who responded are completely innocent, just that it was pretty unfortunate and unsavoury. Think we can all calm down with going on the defensive as if the integrity of the club itself has been targeted. On the whole it was a great night for the league and that shouldn't be overshadowed by the actions of a few muppets.

Especially because we won, obviously. That should be the central theme here really.

Very well put !

[RathfarnhamHoop]

No but I'm pointing out that this narrative forming on here that poor innocent Pats fans were blameless for any wrongdoings last night is nonsense. The bystanders in that pub were innocent, and those responsible are scum, pure and simple, but there were a tiny minority of troublemakers among both sets of supporters last night which is disappointing when the vast, vast majority of both supporters just wanted to watch a game of football.

I'll denounce scumbags regardless of who they proclaim to support, I think they're a poison on our sport, but this notion that it's only City fans causing trouble is head in the sand stuff does nothing to address the bigger picture problem.

Nobody was talking about anything other than what happened in the pub and you came out with this, trying to pass some blame for what happened in the pub onto Pats fans which isn't on.


Ye make it sound like City fans threw bottles at each other while pious Pats fans looked on. Come back to reality lads. For balance, I wouldn't bring a kid to a match in Inchicore after previous incidents, the matchday experience is an embarrassment to Irish football.

[CityRebel]

Nobody was talking about anything other than what happened in the pub and you came out with this, trying to pass some blame for what happened in the pub onto Pats fans which isn't on.

We're not the same person :D

[Crosshead]

Nobody was talking about anything other than what happened in the pub and you came out with this, trying to pass some blame for what happened in the pub onto Pats fans which isn't on.

I didn't post that second quote.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

We're not the same person :D

Oops my bad, brain took a while to warm up this morning. Point still stands about the second quote though to insist Pats fans must have done something to bring the attack upon themselves is wrong.

[outspoken]

Sean Murray looks lost since coming on for Benson.

Haven't read the whole thread but I'm sure people are picking up on this after his wonder goal but you're kind of right. Wouldn't say he was lost but it's definitely going to take him a while to figure out who he can link up best with etc. He was literally all over the midfield. Think he started to link up very well with McEleney before the injury. Ironically I'd suggested for a few weeks now that Murray would replace Benson in that team

[Ezeikial]

Haven't read the whole thread but I'm sure people are picking up on this after his wonder goal but you're kind of right. Wouldn't say he was lost but it's definitely going to take him a while to figure out who he can link up best with etc. He was literally all over the midfield. Think he started to link up very well with McEleney before the injury. Ironically I'd suggested for a few weeks now that Murray would replace Benson in that team

In his limited appearances to date Sean Murray has shown that he is likely to have a big impact in Dundalk's midfield. This is a seriously talented player who has great movement and drive. As his fitness improves his quality will become more apparent. Robbie Benson's injury simply means he is going to get the game time needed sooner than later

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Haven't read the whole thread but I'm sure people are picking up on this after his wonder goal but you're kind of right. Wouldn't say he was lost but it's definitely going to take him a while to figure out who he can link up best with etc. He was literally all over the midfield. Think he started to link up very well with McEleney before the injury. Ironically I'd suggested for a few weeks now that Murray would replace Benson in that team

It was hardly a wonder goal. Good strike from the edge of the area alright.

[nigel-harps1954]

Vojic has been given the winning goal for rovers last night. One goal for both of our strikers, a good way to start the season.

I can't get my head around his at all. Watched it back about 10 times now to see this supposed touch by Vojic.

[total hoofball]

I can't get my head around his at all. Watched it back about 10 times now to see this supposed touch by Vojic.
Of course it didn't touch Vojic it went through his leg, Vojic reaction when the goal went it in wasn't exactly celebrating as if he was claiming the goal.

LOI website here still lists Boyle as the goalscorer - https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/match/waterford-vs-shamrock-rovers/id-025K4692SK000000VUM100GLVVH56HPG

Smacks of Rovers attempting to fiddle their stats for their young new striker to give him a boost hoping he becomes the new Twigg. Boyle's reply to the Rovers on twitter says it all

[Asterix]

Of course it didn't touch Vojic it went through his leg, Vojic reaction when the goal went it in wasn't exactly celebrating as if he was claiming the goal.

LOI website here still lists Boyle as the goalscorer - https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/match/waterford-vs-shamrock-rovers/id-025K4692SK000000VUM100GLVVH56HPG

Smacks of Rovers attempting to fiddle their stats for their young new striker to give him a boost hoping he becomes the new Twigg. Boyle's reply to the Rovers on twitter says it all


Theres another angle of it from behind the goal, 100% hits of someone but hard to tell if its Vojic or the waterford player.

His celebrations would suggest it hits him, he wouldn't leave that fans and got booked for it too.

https://www.facebook.com/travelswiththeblues/videos/301224667254127/UzpfSTEwMDAxMDk0MTczMjYzMTpWSzo4OTUxNTU1ODM5ODc5NT A/

[placid casual]

Smacks of Rovers attempting to fiddle their stats for their young new striker to give him a boost hoping he becomes the new Twigg. Boyle's reply to the Rovers on twitter says it all
When it comes to Rovers ,the glass is permanently half empty for you, TH, yeah?

[placid casual]

Didn't get to the game on Friday, but going by reports Rovers were good value for their win.
A good start, and an interesting game against a Derry side full of optimism coming up next week.

[sbgawa]

Of course it didn't touch Vojic it went through his leg, Vojic reaction when the goal went it in wasn't exactly celebrating as if he was claiming the goal.

LOI website here still lists Boyle as the goalscorer - https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/match/waterford-vs-shamrock-rovers/id-025K4692SK000000VUM100GLVVH56HPG

Smacks of Rovers attempting to fiddle their stats for their young new striker to give him a boost hoping he becomes the new Twigg. Boyle's reply to the Rovers on twitter says it all
This is what kept me awake on Friday night.
I'd say the rovers mangt team spent ages debating who to give the goal too. Clearly huge deal ;)

[Kingswood Rover]

one swallow does not make a summer. Honestly Carr was malogen in the first half the amount of times we lost pocession through a poor 1st touch was very noticeable. He did play much better in the 2nd half tbf. Greg Bolger was a rock when he came on simple passing that always seemed to find a team mate. Eathan Boyle honest as the day is long but very average. Great first night in the league brilliant crowds at all venues is going to live football matches in Ireland now trendy, looking at the way Bohs have cultized themselves..........possibly maybe or perhaps. Cant even get a ticket to sneak meself into the jodier apparently. KOH

[sbgawa]

Car was super on the wing last few games last year, it was frustrating how many times he didn't back himself against the full back. I'd say TC will change that

[marinobohs]

This is what kept me awake on Friday night.
I'd say the rovers mangt team spent ages debating who to give the goal too. Clearly huge deal ;)

.....and they would have 'got away' with it as well if it wasn't for that pesky poster :cool:

As was shown at the U19 final shams are not big on winning players names.

[CityRebel]

Oops my bad, brain took a while to warm up this morning. Point still stands about the second quote though to insist Pats fans must have done something to bring the attack upon themselves is wrong.

What are you on about now? Everyone condemns incidents like these, nobody is happy about incidents like this, nobody is happy about City’s team bus being smashed up either.

[DFCForever]

“Neither are as bad as first feared,” says Vinny Perth regarding Benson and McEleney’s injuries. Well that’s a relief certainly.

[Bunny Kelly]

With RTÉ not holding the rights to highlights until Monday it would be great if the clubs started putting together some decent highlights package for their YouTube channels. Some clubs have done it in the past but having to wait til Tuesday to post them, they kind of lost their appeal

[Nesta99]

How ironic that it is the virtuous Cork City fans, especially CorkRebel, have had to appear on here in a poor attenpt to defend the indefensible or point fingers elsewhere. They claimed Cork fans are not capble of such behaviour and scoffed when it was said that all clubs have fans that can embaress our clubs, but not Cork - sure their players wont even tackle.

[rebs23]

How ironic that it is the virtuous Cork City fans, especially CorkRebel, have had to appear on here in a poor attenpt to defend the indefensible or point fingers elsewhere. They claimed Cork fans are not capble of such behaviour and scoffed when it was said that all clubs have fans that can embaress our clubs, but not Cork - sure their players wont even tackle.
Do you honestly believe that City fans simply walked into a pub full of casually dressed Pats fans and their English buddies from Sheffield Wednesday and simply started throwing bottles at kids and old fellas, seriously?
7-10 City fans decide to take on a whole pub outnumbered by about 5 to 1? For decades now City fans have been getting hassle at games in Dublin involving certain clubs with the exception of Rovers in recent times who generally leave us alone. When is the last time there was serious trouble involving away fans getting attacked in Cork? It is ingrained in City fans now when travelling to Dublin to be aware of potential trouble. And yes we do have fans who will defend themselves when attacked.
Not much commentary about the City team bus getting attacked and windows smashed afterwards.

[PartySaint]

Do you honestly believe that City fans simply walked into a pub full of casually dressed Pats fans and their English buddies from Sheffield Wednesday and simply started throwing bottles at kids and old fellas, seriously?.

That's exactly what happened and those lads with their (Sheffield United) mates don't drink in McDowell's which makes it even more strange.

Cork fans also done the same in the Black Lion up the road on the way down to McDowells

[Jack B]

* Sheffield United

There's also been more commentary on the pub incident(s) than the bus because Pats fans haven't bizarrely argued against any criticism of a small group of supporters' actions to anywhere near the frankly bizarre extent that many Cork fans have.