Attendances 2019

[seand]

I was one of 7 Dundalk away fans at Turners Cross less than 7 years ago. Alll struggling LoI teams will bring tiny numbers to long distance away matches.

[Johnnie C]

I listened online to it as RTE blocked it to the 6 counties on Sky and RTE PLAYER.
Bad form from that shower. People from across the 32 counties of Ireland should be able to watch all content unhindered.

[Johnnie C]

LOL at the bitter digs. Top of the attendance charts for the last 5 years and when we are 3rd from bottom in a wretched season the pops come out for a poor away attendance on the other side of the country. Sad feckers.
A team really needs support when they're struggling. Easy turn up when challenging for trophies.

[sullanefc]

A team really needs support when they're struggling. Easy turn up when challenging for trophies.



Derry - 2,957 (2,297; 1,517; 1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135)

Take your own advice Johnny kid. Derry's figures are hardly inspiring, particularly 2015 and 2014.

[sullanefc]

Strange comment considering the claims that few travel to Oriel due to the away section. I can understand your frustration and subsequent crankiness though!
You really want to get into a debate on how crap oriel park is?

[LOI101]

Bad form from that shower. People from across the 32 counties of Ireland should be able to watch all content unhindered.

Blocked at the direction of the FAI according to RTE and Sky from tweets I've seen on my timeline. Noel Mooney responded on Friday saying he wasn't aware of it and would get it resolved in time for Friday nights game but that didn't happen.

[dong]

Bad form from that shower. People from across the 32 counties of Ireland should be able to watch all content unhindered.

Do you pay a TV licence like we have to for the privelage?

[Nesta99]

No as its been done to death, I was offering it as reason or claim of reason for Cork fans not travelling to Oriel.

[oriel]

I listened online to it as RTE blocked it to the 6 counties on Sky and RTE PLAYER.

I live just over the border, so RTE blocked the game on my sky, but worked fine on a smart tv in another room, just search for RTE, page 800 something, I'd imagine same will work up in Derry v S Armagh.

[Johnnie C]

Do you pay a TV licence like we have to for the privelage?
Yes I do.

[EatYerGreens]

Do you pay a TV licence like we have to for the privelage?

Do you pay a TV license to the BBC for all the British channels you get ? :p

[David BOHie]

2550 at Bohs Cork, official

[nigel-harps1954]

Harps v UCD - 1,120

[redarmyfaction]

1,829 in the Showgrounds last Saturday.

[ToberonaTornado]

Waterford 2 Sligo 0
585 at the game!!

Tues fixture(we all hate midweek fixtures)
Bit of a dead rubber.
Crucial Ireland Ladies international match on & on TV.
Prob no or no more than 0 - 20 away fans at the match.(i'm guessing)
Fan fatigue.
etc ..

actually wasn't that bad of an attendance all things considered.

[pineapple stu]

Ah in fairness, that's a bad attendance and there's no point dressing it up otherwise. The bottom seems to have fallen out at Waterford since they weren't let into Europe, and you'd wonder what next season will bring - can it get back to where it was or will Power start to pull away?

[Dalymountrower]

Ah in fairness, that's a bad attendance and there's no point dressing it up otherwise. The bottom seems to have fallen out at Waterford since they weren't let into Europe, and you'd wonder what next season will bring - can it get back to where it was or will Power start to pull away?

Have seen Waterford play four times this season, comfortably the fifth best team in the league, play decent football ,have some fine players and a good away support. They hit a really bad patch for half a dozen games but they are putting in a really strong finish. If they can keep the likes of Feely, Talbot , Lunney and the under 21 international, they should be fine next season.

[Dalymountrower]

Zack Elbouzedi

[EatYerGreens]

Have seen Waterford play four times this season, comfortably the fifth best team in the league, play decent football ,have some fine players and a good away support. They hit a really bad patch for half a dozen games but they are putting in a really strong finish. If they can keep the likes of Feely, Talbot , Lunney and the under 21 international, they should be fine next season.

As they say, the league table doesn't lie.

[Ezeikial]

Have seen Waterford play four times this season, comfortably the fifth best team in the league, play decent football ,have some fine players and a good away support. They hit a really bad patch for half a dozen games but they are putting in a really strong finish. If they can keep the likes of Feely, Talbot , Lunney and the under 21 international, they should be fine next season.


It's perfectly natural to form a view based on the performances against your own team, but do you realise that Waterford have lost 16 of their 34 league games?


As regards keeping the four players you mentioned for next season - Zach Elbouzedi is out of contract and the end of the season and has already attracted lots of interest (https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/dundalk-intensify-efforts-signed-waterford-18783711). Whatever about Feely and Lunny staying, who is this Talbot chap?

[pineapple stu]

If they can keep the likes of Feely, Talbot , Lunney and the under 21 international, they should be fine next season.
True, though that is the big "if" of course. What's Power likely to do while 585 come through the gate?

The eternal LoI question really...

[redobit]

Tues fixture(we all hate midweek fixtures)
Bit of a dead rubber.
Crucial Ireland Ladies international match on & on TV.
Prob no or no more than 0 - 20 away fans at the match.(i'm guessing)
Fan fatigue.
etc ..

actually wasn't that bad of an attendance all things considered.

Mid week games are awful alright. They are a good indicator of what your hardcore fans are though.

[Dalymountrower]

It's perfectly natural to form a view based on the performances against your own team, but do you realise that Waterford have lost 16 of their 34 league games?


As regards keeping the four players you mentioned for next season - Zach Elbouzedi is out of contract and the end of the season and has already attracted lots of interest (https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/dundalk-intensify-efforts-signed-waterford-18783711). Whatever about Feely and Lunny staying, who is this Talbot chap?
Holland, I meant.
Waterford are a far better side than Pats ,currently occupying 5th.

[trevy]

It was a poor crowd considering we have been on a good run of form lately. I've said it here before that our crowds are always badly affected by a change from the usual Friday night. I couldn't go myself as was working late and when games are fixed with only a weeks notice it can be tricky to arrange time off or shift swops at work.
Lee Power is reviewing his investment so what happens next year is unclear according to recent interviews with Alan Reynolds. He can't sign any players yet for next year so in usual LOI fashion we will probably see a turnover of players at end of season.

[Couch Potato]

Holland, I meant.
Waterford are a far better side than Pats ,currently occupying 5th.

On what basis exactly?

No doubt we've been poor this season based on the caliber of the squad but that Waterford team is most certainly not better than the Pats one.
We've had a manager who couldn't get anything out of the players we've had our top scorer suspended for almost a 1/4 of the season and we now have a manager who hasn't picked a consistent team as he is trying to figure out who he does or doesn't want for next season and even with all that we are still ahead of Waterford in the league.

[Dalymountrower]

Waterford have beaten Pats 2-0 ( twice) and 3-0 ( once 0. Lost once to Pats 2-1, so a 3 out of 12 return for Pats v Waterford head to head.
First it was Harry Kenny`s fault, now it`s Stephen O`Donnell! Despite the hammer blows of losing Heary , Akinade, and losing out on Europe, Waterford have continued to play a decent passing game and will be within two/three points of Pats by the end of the season

[Couch Potato]

Bohs have beaten Rovers how many times this year? Are Bohs better than Rovers?

Don't forget Waterford had extra motivation against us and as some of there own supporters have said played the best games of their season against us.
Your argument is nonsense, even by your own admission Waterford will still be behind Pats at the end of the season.

Head to Heads mean absolutely zero league table is the only thing you can compare teams with.

[Dalymountrower]

Bohs have beaten Rovers how many times this year? Are Bohs better than Rovers?

Don't forget Waterford had extra motivation against us and as some of there own supporters have said played the best games of their season against us.
Your argument is nonsense, even by your own admission Waterford will still be behind Pats at the end of the season.

Head to Heads mean absolutely zero league table is the only thing you can compare teams with.

The points difference at the end of the season will be the equivalent to you drawing 0-0 at home, when striving for euro qualification, to a very weakened UCD side as against the aberration/outlier of a 4-1 win by UCD v Waterford , before the exodus of some of UCD`s better players.
You are of course quite entitled to believe that Pats are a better team than Waterford on the basis of results other than those v Waterford, i disagree.

[sbgawa]

For both Waterford and Pats i would say it depends on which team shows up.
Both teams have been decent or awful at times this year.
Both have had unbelievably disruptive seasons for a variety of reasons.
I would expect both to be much better next year.

[EatYerGreens]

Waterford are a far better side than Pats ,currently occupying 5th.

No they're not. The league table doesn't lie.

When you consider that Waterford started the season with a strong team that was expected to challenge for Europe before the dodgy Delaney promise did them over, the fact that they still couldn't finish 5th is telling. Theye were effectively given a head start over Pats.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Tues fixture(we all hate midweek fixtures)
Bit of a dead rubber.
Crucial Ireland Ladies international match on & on TV.
Prob no or no more than 0 - 20 away fans at the match.(i'm guessing)
Fan fatigue.
etc ..

actually wasn't that bad of an attendance all things considered.

Good guess. I counted 19.

[Dalymountrower]

3035 in Dalymount.

[patrickccfc]

2047 announced at the cross last night.

[Martinho II]

Nigel will be delighted with me with this update but attendance for last night was 992! courtesy of extratime.ie

[nigel-harps1954]

Nigel will be delighted with me with this update but attendance for last night was 992! courtesy of extratime.ie

Good man Marty. If only I could get the other ones I needed from Longford though as I don't use play-off figures ;)

[Martinho II]

Good man Marty. If only I could get the other ones I needed from Longford though as I don't use play-off figures ;)

Thats a pity you got no word back from club Nigel regarding that. Try my younger brother and you might have more joy!!

[brendy_éire]

Sligo-Derry: 1909

[EatYerGreens]

Sligo-Derry: 1909

That's a good crowd, considering Sligo have nothing left to play for.

[Mr_Parker]

Is there an average for the league as a whole, season to date, listed anywhere?

[nigel-harps1954]

Is there an average for the league as a whole, season to date, listed anywhere?

Working on it currently.

[Mr_Parker]

Thanks. I saw a figure reported in March circa 2600. Is there anything to suggest it has changed much since then?

[nigel-harps1954]

Anyone got figure for Pats v Bohs at the weekend?

Still missing Dundalk v Waterford - 1st July. Outside of Derry games, it's the only official figure I'm missing from all the Premier Division games this season before the weekend past.

[David BOHie]

Why don't Derry release their attendances?

[sbgawa]

Why don't Derry release their attendances?

Its an anti Harps bias thing,
Nigel needs to go incognito

[nigel-harps1954]

Updated:

Missing the following games, have estimates included for them at the minute.

Dundalk v Waterford - 1st July
Limerick v Cobh - 26th July
Bray v Drogheda - 21st Sept

PREMIER DIVISION

Bohs - 2,856 (2,148; 2,006; 1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488)
Cork - 2,505 (4,245; 4,559; 2,533; 3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD)
Derry - 2,891 (2,297; 1,517; 1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135)
Dundalk - 2,761 (2,738; 2,674; 2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355)
Harps - 1,153 (708 FD; 1,202; 1,216; 784 FD; 449 FD; 479 FD; 429 FD; 433 FD; 644 FD)
Pat's - 1,820 (1,621; 1,504; 1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346)
Rovers - 3,522 (2,749; 2,809; 2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779)
Sligo - 1,995 (1,853; 1,717; 1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103)
Waterford - 1,653 (2,329; 1,550 FD; 314 FD; 460 FD; 470 FD; 478 FD; 453 FD; 466 FD)
UCD - 735 (365 FD; 236 FD; 297 FD; 216 FD; 397; 487; 506; 558; 610)

FIRST DIVISION

Athlone - 369 (130; 154; 156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200)
Bray - 798 (643 PD; 966 PD; 957 PD; 769 PD; 718 PD; 891 PD; 965 PD; 1,121 PD)
Cabinteely - 370 (261; 346; 352; 610)
Cobh - 280 (236; 358; 403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681)
Drogheda - 928 (377; 850 PD; 583; 813 PD; 1,064 PD; 817 PD; 977 PD; 811 PD)
Galway - 795 (746; 1,376 PD; 1,169 PD; 1,290 PD; 975)
Limerick - 451 (931 PD; 1,610 PD; 1,131; 1,206 PD; 757 PD; 1,649 PD; 734; 569)
Longford - 611 (449; 342; 488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315)
Shels - 1,075 (654; 496; 554; 596; 713; 1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781)
Wexford - 235 (181; 338; 585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216)

PREMIER AVERAGE: 2,171 (2,170; 1,902; 1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 586 (413; 477; 476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578)

OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,496 (1,249; 1,387; 1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110)


OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 375,658 (316,515; 376,627; 292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 79,115 (55,756; 53,461; 52,807; 54,474; 55,408)

OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 454,773 (372,271; 430,088; 345,011; 387,279; 352,742)

[nigel-harps1954]

Why don't Derry release their attendances?

They pay tax on theirs. Presumably the only reason why they wouldn't announce anything.

[nigel-harps1954]

Thanks. I saw a figure reported in March circa 2600. Is there anything to suggest it has changed much since then?

2,171, minus two figures I'm waiting on.

Final round of games includes Dundalk lifting the trophy, Bohs with another sold out Jodi, Shamrock Rovers at home, and Derry v Harps (although there'll be little in the away end with an away playoff on Monday). Derry v Pats tonight should have a decent crowd too.

I'd think the final average for the Premier will sit somewhere around 2,180.

[Mr_Parker]

2,171, minus two figures I'm waiting on.

Final round of games includes Dundalk lifting the trophy, Bohs with another sold out Jodi, Shamrock Rovers at home, and Derry v Harps (although there'll be little in the away end with an away playoff on Monday). Derry v Pats tonight should have a decent crowd too.

I'd think the final average for the Premier will sit somewhere around 2,180.

Cheers Nigel. *hops over to another thread*

[wonder88]

A more competitive 1st division this year, combined to the absence of UCD could be the reason for the increase of total figure?
The 4 times greater figure for Premier division underlines the problems of the second tier. The difference is too great for what is supposed to be the same league.

Thanks again Nigel for your work on this.

[dublinwanderer]

Updated:

Missing the following games, have estimates included for them at the minute.

Bray v Drogheda - 21st Sept



1042 according Bray's match report :)