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[Cowboy]

laochra=warriors/heroes

I like warrior more than soldier to be honest even though I was one

[Cowboy]

Any chance of a word by word translation for it? so we foreigners can study a few new words?

sure http://www.lyricmania.com/l25643

[donalfitz]

Can we blame Charlie Haughey for this stroke ? :)


I think laochra means Heros but have to check it up.. It was changed because Fianna sounded better apparantly :confused:
If charlie Haughey change it (former leader of fianna fáil political party), then it sound like a politicial scam for votes.

[FarBeag]

laochra=warriors/heroes..This was the original but it was changed to Fianna but i am not sure who changed it.

[Shae_B2D]

sure http://www.lyricmania.com/l25643

Bless you, thanks! :)

[FarBeag]

Shae_B2D....Take a look at Boysingreens post yesterday.This gives a good simple way of singing it in both languages plus also has an' Idiot guide' if you like attached.Sorry hope this does not sound cynical.

[skbio_toronto]

That reminds me of my last few visits to Lansdowne .Weather it was the South / North Terrace or West Stand. I could'nt help but notice that many of the people around me seemed uncomfortable / amused / confused or all of the above. Not a point made for a football meassage board , I digress. But to my my mind the lacklusture teaching of the Irish language and history as a subject leads to this ignorance of our national hertitage amongst the younger generations, IMO. A great may of Irish young people today are largely ignorant to national hero's such as Wolfe Tone, Daniel O' Connell, Michael Collins, Sean Lemass (depends on your perspective), a crying shame.

Sometimes, I can feel isolated in my Irish nationalistic tendencies in the company of certain 'Irish' people. One of the push factors that has me out here in Canada to be honest. But I'll tell ye one thing. It will never stop me from ag canadh ar ahmran naisiunta. Nil aon dabht faoi sin.


I brought my 7 year to his first international on Tuesday night. Its a couple of years since I managed to get tickets to an Ireland game and I too noticed people looking at me in a strange because I sung the national anthem with gusto. What's happened the patriotic Irish. Do they have to be gargled up to sing the national anthem. BTW my son also sung along as he's already been taught it in school as gaelge. It will probably be another couple of years before I get my hands on tickets again.

[lopez]

Can't say that I have ever been made to feel embarrassed to sing the Soldiers Song. Actually tends to shut certain people up with their pre-concieved ideas of my English accent. FFS, there's even a line about us in the national anthem. There does however seem to be a strong lack of education of Irish history amongst all people in the 26C education system (a principal favourite of mine being emigration). Disgrace!

BTW. Wasn't Sean Lemass one of the lads on the assault on the Cairo Gang? Got to be a contender of one of the coooooolest political assasinations in British history (The other one being our Israeli friends restructuring of the King David Hotel). :eek:

[boysingreen]

If I recall right Lemass was indeed, as was Ardal O'Hanlon's (Dougal from Fr. Ted) grandfather Mick.

[FarBeag]

lopez... Quote by Can't say that I have ever been made to feel embarrassed to sing the Soldiers Song. Actually tends to shut certain people up with their pre-concieved ideas of my English accent.

Fcuk the clowns with this attitude i really respect ye guys that grow up in England of Irish Parents that show your support towards Ireland, i work with some really good blokes of Irish Parentage and some not so good...My Query..I have an 8 year old and his aliences at the moment is swinging towards the tans,how do I divert this and train him in.

[lopez]

Fcuk the clowns with this attitude i really respect ye guys that grow up in England of Irish Parents that show your support towards Ireland, i work with some really good blokes of Irish Parentage and some not so good...My Query..I have an 8 year old and his aliences at the moment is swinging towards the tans,how do I divert this and train him in.It's easier I suppose if both parents are Irish (or with my children, both parents Irish by nationality). My own opinion is that if someone has mixed parentage - British and Irish - then why shouldn't they celebrate this and can't see a problem with this despite our mutual history.

Trouble is in Sasana revolves around the unremitting propaganda which doesn't square with reality regarding nationality. Being born in Britain of foreign parents hasn't entitled anyone to automatic citizenship since 1981 and so someone following England with foreign born parents may as well follow Brazil instead. Therefore some serious 'education' is needed.

[Pat O' Banton]

Fcuk the clowns with this attitude i really respect ye guys that grow up in England of Irish Parents that show your support towards Ireland, i work with some really good blokes of Irish Parentage and some not so good...My Query..I have an 8 year old and his aliences at the moment is swinging towards the tans,how do I divert this and train him in.

I have made a deal with Mrs O' B that if we ever have kids she can bring them to watch Stoke play as long as their brought up to be Ireland fans.

However unfortunately the wee blighters do have personal choice, and its difficult when they are surrounded by all things Ingerland, so just constantly remeind him that if s/he wants to actually enjoy themselves at a football match then Ireland is the team. Buy the kid an Ireland top and remind him/ her on a day to day basis just how great Ireland is. Its not just a personal thing of having your child support Ireland, or even losing a fan to Ingerland. What happens if they grow up to be a brilliant footballer and end up not playing for Ireland?! :eek:

[the 12 th man]

I have made a deal with Mrs O' B that if we ever have kids she can bring them to watch Stoke play


went to a coaching session (for kids) the other night in dublin.it was hosted by stoke city.the coach on the night was ex stoke & england intl Mike Pejic .

very informative and he knows his stuff .

[dcfcsteve]

went to a coaching session (for kids) the other night in dublin.it was hosted by stoke city.the coach on the night was ex stoke & england intl Mike Pejic .

very informative and he knows his stuff .

Why are we having third-rate (no offence Mrs O'Banton) English clubs running coaching sessions over here for our kids, when Irish clubs could be doing just as good a job, and building the profile of the local game as well ?

Only in Ireland.....

[the 12 th man]

Why are we having third-rate (no offence Mrs O'Banton) English clubs running coaching sessions over here for our kids, when Irish clubs could be doing just as good a job, and building the profile of the local game as well ?

Only in Ireland.....


there are indeed first rate coaches and courses (predominantly FAI run) available here,but there's no harm in seeing how its done across the water.

we're playing catch- up over here where football coaching of children is concerned vis a vis england and indeed most of the major european footballing countries(france,holland germany etc). :)