Games 14th Sept

[pineapple stu]

Very unfamiliar UCD love-in here the last fortnight! Premier absence must make the heart grow fonder. I trust next season will be back to the usual complaints about no atmosphere and cold temperature. :)

[Ezeikial]

Very unfamiliar UCD love-in here the last fortnight! Premier absence must make the heart grow fonder. I trust next season will be back to the usual complaints about no atmosphere and cold temperature. :)

I look forward to the UCD fans joining the growing boycott of Oriel Park:D

Fair play to UCD - winning a league is always difficult, winning with young, developing players especially so

[David BOHie]

How Sheppard stayed on the pitch is a miracle. He was even starting to walk off the pitch himself, then the ref only gave him a yellow!?!

Was a very tough game to ref because it was so physical but the ref didn't get a handle on it at all. Foul after foul after foul after foul went unpunished. Don't think he was biased, just bad

[placid casual]

Easy win for Rovers against an utterly woejus Limerick side.
There's definitely a few levels within the premier league, and Limerick & Bray are definitely in a league of their own.
Congrats to the students ( *bag o ****e!).
I look forward to walking to a game next season.

* For all you paul calf fans .

[Dalymountrower]

Congrats to UCD, watched the highlights of the Waterford game and they outplayed those overpaid spoofers from the Suir.Wouldnt be surprised if they beat Dundalk.What a nightmare for the FAI that would be !

[disgruntled]

That Cork team , 8 Mastadons amd a couple of footballers,,were poison.Lots of nasty off the ball stuff that the ref decided to ignore .The two footed lunge by Sheppard would have had anyone else sent off.
Great football from Bohs first half and blood and thunder defending in the second.
Some quality goals , The two Kelly goals and Penders and then Keohanes glancing header were as good as you will see .
Dundalk are a class above that Cork team


Wasn't any worse than Penders tackle from behind on Sheppard & he only got a yellow as well.
Great first half display from Bohs. Really played some lovely stuff at times.
Did the same in Cork earlier on in the season & were very unlucky then not to go away with something from the game.
If Bohs can keep hold of their players & build on it they will be a fine side.
Some very exciting young talent there.

[Martinho II]

massive congrats to UCD on their success. long overdue.

as for us mcglade hasnt being the same player since before the cork cup match. I strongly suspect hes off at the end of the season. ref yet again awful. the free that drogs scored from that wall was 15 yards back instead of 10 yards as per norm. We have being too inconsistent this season. The injuries that were building up week by week didnt help matters to say the least.

I have a feeling that Bohs will beat Derry next week and will beat Cork in the FAI Cup. I think they are a sneaky bet for the FAI Cup!

[Ezeikial]

I have a feeling that Bohs will beat Derry next week and will beat Cork in the FAI Cup. I think they are a sneaky bet for the FAI Cup!

11/1 to win the cup. That's not attractive enough odds, considering Bohs have to overcome Derry (away) and Cork (home) before beating either Dundalk or UCD in the final to collect the bet

[da bishop]

Easy win for Rovers against an utterly woejus Limerick side.
There's definitely a few levels within the premier league, and Limerick & Bray are definitely in a league of their own.
Congrats to the students ( *bag o ****e!).
I look forward to walking to a game next season.

* For all you paul calf fans .BUT,BUT,....sure according to all and sundry who think they matter down here Tommy is doing a great job after being handed a turkey at seasons start and the whole squad are going through a brick wall etc,etc.

[pineapple stu]

Two observations from last night.

The First Division medals are crap. Probably cost €2 each. The FAI outdoing themselves once again.

The First Division trophy is 6 years old, and it's in bits. It's bent at the neck, the base is loose and the band lifts off.

Tis a great aul league we have...

[osarusan]

Two observations from last night.

The First Division medals are crap. Probably cost €2 each. The FAI outdoing themselves once again.

The First Division trophy is 6 years old, and it's in bits. It's bent at the neck, the base is loose and the band lifts off.

Tis a great aul league we have...
One who didn't know better might imagine that rowdy UCD fans had damaged it and are covering their tracks.

[Longfordian]

It was fine when we had it a few years ago.

[pineapple stu]

One who didn't know better might imagine that rowdy UCD fans had damaged it and are covering their tracks.
A scurrilous accusation. Sure you saw John83 on facebook denying that very possibility! :p

[ToberonaTornado]

Very fond memories of Ryano/rhino Ian Ryan here in Dundalk.
Got a raw deal along with John Gill after promotion in 2008.

[outspoken]

It was fine when we had it a few years ago.

Eh actually think we might have put the dent in it haha

[ger121]

Very unfamiliar UCD love-in here the last fortnight! Premier absence must make the heart grow fonder. I trust next season will be back to the usual complaints about no atmosphere and cold temperature. :)

**** club, no fans, bring nothing to the PD. Happy:p

[sullanefc]

That Cork team , 8 Mastadons amd a couple of footballers,,were poison.Lots of nasty off the ball stuff that the ref decided to ignore .The two footed lunge by Sheppard would have had anyone else sent off.
Great football from Bohs first half and blood and thunder defending in the second.
Some quality goals , The two Kelly goals and Penders and then Keohanes glancing header were as good as you will see .
Dundalk are a class above that Cork team
Was watching on TV so I obviously didn't see any off the ball stuff but something tells me you might be exaggerating it a bit.

As for Sheppard, the ball barely made it into the box and he obviously thought he could nick it from Supple before he could pick it up. Mistimed. You're also conveniently forgetting "scumbag" Supple dragging Shep to the ground by the neck.

[total hoofball]

I see Brendan Clarke scored a penalty for Pats against Sligo last night

I remember Matt Gregg scoring for UCD against Cobh 10 years ago, have any other goalkeepers scored goals in the LOI before?

[osarusan]

I see Brendan Clarke scored a penalty for Pats against Sligo last night

I remember Matt Gregg scoring for UCD against Cobh 10 years ago, have any other goalkeepers scored goals in the LOI before?
Limerick keeper scored with a long punt that bounced over Galway keeper Van Boxtel about 20 years ago on a cold night in Galway.
Was it Eddie Hickey?

[pineapple stu]

Billy Brennan missed a penalty in a League Cup quarter-final the same year Matt Gregg scored against Cobh. He'd already scored five for the 21s by that stage. I don't think any senior club (anywhere, possibly) has had two keepers score in the same season.

[oriel]

As a kid i remember a goal scored direct from a kick out in oriel park. It was league game in the late 70’s I think. Richie Blackmore (Dundalk) and Alex Ludzig (Prob Waterford) were the two keepers, I just can’t recall which one scored !!!!

Edit: It was Alex Ludzig who scored for Cork Alberts* v Richie Blackmore of Dundalk, late 70’s still the period.

*There was also a club called Cork Albert (no s) around this time, so it was def v whoever was in the league that season.

[oriel]

Was watching on TV so I obviously didn't see any off the ball stuff but something tells me you might be exaggerating it a bit.

As for Sheppard, the ball barely made it into the box and he obviously thought he could nick it from Supple before he could pick it up. Mistimed. You're also conveniently forgetting "scumbag" Supple dragging Shep to the ground by the neck.

At the time I thought it looked a straight red for Sheppard, on replay it was a yellow, just shows how hard it is for refs at times to make a decision on the spot.

[Poor Student]

**** club, no fans, bring nothing to the PD. Happy:p

The complete absence of this kind of talk is a symbol of the marked decline of foot.ie over the past decade.

[seand]

I see Brendan Clarke scored a penalty for Pats against Sligo last night

I remember Matt Gregg scoring for UCD against Cobh 10 years ago, have any other goalkeepers scored goals in the LOI before?

Quite a few others as well as those mentioned. I think Jody Byrne scored one for Monaghan about 20 years ago, and there was one at a UCD match in the past 10 years or so. Tom Lally was Galway's top scorer with 4 penalties their first season in the league

[The Donie Forde]

Anyone catch an official attendance figure for Bohs v Cork City?

Thanks

[Pablo Escobar]

As a kid i remember a goal scored direct from a kick out in oriel park. It was league game in the late 70’s I think. Richie Blackmore (Dundalk) and Alex Ludzig (Prob Waterford) were the two keepers, I just can’t recall which one scored !!!!

Edit: It was Alex Ludzig who scored for Cork Alberts* v Richie Blackmore of Dundalk, late 70’s still the period.

*There was also a club called Cork Albert (no s) around this time, so it was def v whoever was in the league that season.

On this topic (and completely off-thread), I was at the U16 FAI cup final in 2009 (I had to look that part up), between Greenwood and Salthill Devon, and current Cork Hurler & Footballer Damien Cahalane, who was on goal for Greenwood, scored from his hands.

Match report here. https://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/junior-senior/greenwood-go-the-distance-to-claim-sfai-barry-cup-27912023.html

It's interesting to note that as well as Cahalane, Greenwood had current Irish international and Sheffield Utd. player John Egan, and the now former Cork City and Cobh Ramblers player Eoin McGreevey. Salthill had Daryl Horgan and Enda Curran in their side.

[seand]

So we have a few penos and a couple of length of the field punts, but has a League of Ireland keeper ever scored coming up for a corner/free? I remember Barry Murphy putting a header narrowly over in a Rovers-Bohs match and I rememeber Tony O'Dowd coming up for a late Pats corner at Dundalk only for Brian Byrne to score on the break, but I can't remember an incident of a keeper scoring a header or goal mouth melee.

[De Town]

So we have a few penos and a couple of length of the field punts, but has a League of Ireland keeper ever scored coming up for a corner/free? I remember Barry Murphy putting a header narrowly over in a Rovers-Bohs match and I rememeber Tony O'Dowd coming up for a late Pats corner at Dundalk only for Brian Byrne to score on the break, but I can't remember an incident of a keeper scoring a header or goal mouth melee.

Our keeper Mick Kelly glanced a header a whisker wide in the last play of the game on Friday up in Drogheda. I was sure it was going in at the time. Can be watched on the highlights on Town's youtube channel. I don't know of one myself but I'm sure there has been one scored like this at some stage though.

[pineapple stu]

Matt Gregg scored coming up for a free; that's the UCD one mentioned above.

Also, Conor Kearns scored a bicycle kick from a corner for UCD U19s away to Cork a couple of years back and got invited onto Soccer AM to recreate it. He's our first choice keeper now.

[seand]

Excellent collection! I had thought Gregg's was a long punt. There's a video of Kearns' effort isn't there?

[harps1954]

I see Brendan Clarke scored a penalty for Pats against Sligo last night

I remember Matt Gregg scoring for UCD against Cobh 10 years ago, have any other goalkeepers scored goals in the LOI before?

A long time ago, but John Young scored for Finn Harps against Waterford in 1969.

[pineapple stu]

Excellent collection! I had thought Gregg's was a long punt. There's a video of Kearns' effort isn't there?
Yep; see here (https://youtu.be/DebTrvYbEW8)

I think Gregg's is around somewhere too, but couldn't find it in a quick search.

[Lim till i die]

In the last four league games the goalkeeper Limerick FC released has scored the same amount of goals as Limerick FC.

And Limerick FC have conceded 17. (SEVENTEEN)

[kksaints]

So we have a few penos and a couple of length of the field punts, but has a League of Ireland keeper ever scored coming up for a corner/free? I remember Barry Murphy putting a header narrowly over in a Rovers-Bohs match and I rememeber Tony O'Dowd coming up for a late Pats corner at Dundalk only for Brian Byrne to score on the break, but I can't remember an incident of a keeper scoring a header or goal mouth melee.

Chris O'Connor scored for Bray in the playoff against Fingal in 2009. Then a minute later made a horrible mistake to let Fingal put the game to bed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzOUhPG8cCI

[pineapple stu]

RTÉ have an article about UCD's promotion (https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0917/994360-ucd-boss-oneill-hails-his-players-on-promotion/)...with the lead photo being of our 2009 promotion-winning side.

[thebronze14]

Forum contributer Nigelharps scored an overhead kick from a corner this season in a Donegal junior League game. I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned it! There is grainy footage somewhere 😂

[nigel-harps1954]

Forum contributer Nigelharps scored an overhead kick from a corner this season in a Donegal junior League game. I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned it! There is grainy footage somewhere 😂

I didn't want to bring it up..but it was a volley, not an overhead kick.

Arguably more impressive some would say.

[red bellied]

Colin Oakley, keeper for Sligo Rovers scored direct from a kick out in the mid eighties against Home Farm.

[TonyD]

I see Brendan Clarke scored a penalty for Pats against Sligo last night


And according to Stuey Byrne there's something seriously wrong at that club if the keeper is taking penalties !!

I don't know if we did something on Stuey while he was playing for Pats, (or maybe it's because once a Shels c"'&€ always a Shels c"&€ ) but he really hates us doesn't he ? Always quick to have a go.

[micls]

To be fair, in recent times yeve had 3 players fight over a penalty, 2 missed penalties by 2 different players at crucial times, and now a keeper take a penalty when a striker was arguing to take it. It's hardly a surprise that it's being commented on given the context.

[EatYerGreens]

And according to Stuey Byrne there's something seriously wrong at that club if the keeper is taking penalties !!

I don't know if we did something on Stuey while he was playing for Pats, (or maybe it's because once a Shels c"'&€ always a Shels c"&€ ) but he really hates us doesn't he ? Always quick to have a go.

There should be no grounds on which a goalkeeper takes penalties during a game.

What happens if they miss and the ball remains in play ? Keepers are rarely known for their pace, and they've got the full length of the pitch to run to get back into the net they've just left wide open.

How can any team have a situation whereby the keeper is considered the first choice penalty taker out of the 11 players on the pitch ? Madness, I tell you.

[nigel-harps1954]

There should be no grounds on which a goalkeeper takes penalties during a game.

What happens if they miss and the ball remains in play ? Keepers are rarely known for their pace, and they've got the full length of the pitch to run to get back into the net they've just left wide open.

How can any team have a situation whereby the keeper is considered the first choice penalty taker out of the 11 players on the pitch ? Madness, I tell you.

A goalkeeper should never be allowed out of their box. What happens if the other team get the ball when they're out of the box? This is an outrage.

[EatYerGreens]

A goalkeeper should never be allowed out of their box. What happens if the other team get the ball when they're out of the box? This is an outrage.

A goalkeeper being out of their box is one thing.

A goalkeeper being at the other end of the pitch and having to sprint back against much faster players is an entirely different proposition. Only a matter of time before it happens if Pats persist with this approach.

If it was even a half decent idea, then surely some other clubs somewhere would also do it ? The fact that they don't surely speaks volumes.

[Charlie Darwin]

A goalkeeper being out of their box is one thing.

A goalkeeper being at the other end of the pitch and having to sprint back against much faster players is an entirely different proposition. Only a matter of time before it happens if Pats persist with this approach.

If it was even a half decent idea, then surely some other clubs somewhere would also do it ? The fact that they don't surely speaks volumes.
It worked fairly well for Chilavert.

[The Donie Forde]

The late great Alek Ludzik, mentioned earlier for scoring during play at Oriel Park, was also an occasional penalty taker (and scorer) well back into his Cork Celtic days.

[osarusan]

If it was even a half decent idea, then surely some other clubs somewhere would also do it ? The fact that they don't surely speaks volumes.
It's certainly not common, but clubs do it.

Chilavert is one example, Rogerio Ceni is another. Hans-Jorg Butt is a European example.

If the goalkeeper also happens to be consistently the best penalty-taker at a club, I don't really see a problem.

Sure, there is a risk of it being saved and the keeper being horribly out of position, but I doubt the manager has failed to realise the risk.

[Longfordian]

I remember Kevin Pressman of Sheffield Wednesday scoring an absolute belter of a penalty many years ago.

[TonyD]

To be fair, in recent times yeve had 3 players fight over a penalty, 2 missed penalties by 2 different players at crucial times, and now a keeper take a penalty when a striker was arguing to take it. It's hardly a surprise that it's being commented on given the context.

Yeah, point taken, but it's hardly symptomatic of a general rot at the club, which is what Stuey seemed to be suggesting. He has form for having a go at Pats too.

By the way, according to Liam Buckley Brendan Clarke was designated taker before the game, so if Campion was arguing to take it he hadn't really much basis. For what it's worth I agree that ideally you should have an outfield player as your first choice penalty taker. If Conan Byrne had been playing he probably would have taken it.

[Dalymountrower]

Handy win for our under 19's and reserves against Pats.