LoI Fixtures 27 Apr to 30 Apr

[patrickccfc]

Pat Hoban(I think) was clapping the shed after the game last night. Thought that was strange. Have to say though, in injury time and when the teams were leaving the pitch after, there was some noise being generated from us in the shed.

[nigel-harps1954]

It's depressing to watch someone like Kerr have a go off kids playing at half time because of the pitch. The day we stop playing kids at half time to protect to pitch for the senior team is a sad day for the club.

The pitch was torn up during the week. The half time kids barely made a dent, it's not like it was significantly worse in the second half.

Those kids are the future of the club, and community involvement like this is why our crowds are getting higher and higher. Can you imagine telling a club full of kids and their parents after coming to the game that they wouldn't be playing? There's 60 people you'd never see in Turners Cross again.

Agree totally. I watched and listened in pure disbelief. Like outspoken said above, I'm also a big fan of Kerr, but those comments were completely absurd. Talking about kids on the pitch and the players attempting a crossbar challenge from the edge of the box as a mitigating factor towards the condition of the pitch. Little research goes a long way, and checking just how many games have been played there might have helped.

Obviously it's the Munster FA grounds, they can do with it as they please, but a little common sense lads..

[micls]

10 clean sheets in a row now in Turners Cross. Brilliant.

[micls]

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Hahaha

[marinobohs]

If it turns out it was a dive then I'll stand corrected, from where I was it looked like he was taken. You weren't getting back into it at 11 v 11, (in m view) so that decision changed the game. If he'd given a penalty then it was 3-0 and game over.

Having said that I was a bit disappointed with our substitutions. Thought Killian Brennan should have come on to get a hold of the ball in midfield.

IF my aunts had balls...... Rubbish. Two very poor teams and result about right. Brennan is a cretin but at no stage did Pats play any football, even with 11 players. Bohs passed the ball and passed and passed, usually to little avail. Pats tried to sit on the lead and see the game out and got what they deserved. Blame Bucko and your players not one refs decision.

[Ezeikial]

It's depressing to watch someone like Kerr have a go off kids playing at half time because of the pitch. The day we stop playing kids at half time to protect to pitch for the senior team is a sad day for the club.

The pitch was torn up during the week. The half time kids barely made a dent, it's not like it was significantly worse in the second half.

Those kids are the future of the club, and community involvement like this is why our crowds are getting higher and higher. Can you imagine telling a club full of kids and their parents after coming to the game that they wouldn't be playing? There's 60 people you'd never see in Turners Cross again.

The condition of the pitch is not the reason why either team won or lost the match - but the facts are that the pitch condition was very poor.

I listened to Brian Kerr's comments on the RTE Player today (I think he can be a right muppet at times), but I don't think he was having "a go off kids playing", but pointing out that all the activity on the pitch, (cross bar challenge, multiple kids games, 14 subs warming up etc) was causing additional damage to an already soft pitch. Surely that is a fair point?

[micls]

The condition of the pitch is not the reason why either team won or lost the match - but the facts are that the pitch condition was very poor.

I listened to Brian Kerr's comments on the RTE Player today (I think he can be a right muppet at times), but I don't think he was having "a go off kids playing", but pointing out that all the activity on the pitch, (cross bar challenge, multiple kids games, 14 subs warming up etc) was causing additional damage to an already soft pitch. Surely that is a fair point?

What's the point of making that point though? The tone clearly came across as complaining that it was happening. If you're going to make a negative point about something incredibly positive for the club, then he should have acknowledged the importance of these activities or give a reasonable alternative. Complaining for complaining sake is ridiculous.

[outspoken]

The condition of the pitch is not the reason why either team won or lost the match - but the facts are that the pitch condition was very poor.

I listened to Brian Kerr's comments on the RTE Player today (I think he can be a right muppet at times), but I don't think he was having "a go off kids playing", but pointing out that all the activity on the pitch, (cross bar challenge, multiple kids games, 14 subs warming up etc) was causing additional damage to an already soft pitch. Surely that is a fair point?

He basically said the kids shouldn’t be on the pitch given it’s condition and maybe wait until the weather gets a little better for half time matches. Rubbish from him.

[mcgonigle]

What was more worrying was McGrath telling Whooobin to stay down and have another few rolls while the rest of the team surround the ref to get McCormack a card. Ye really have a cynical team. No doubt well coached in the dark arts.


He gave a few strange decisions but overall I felt he did well in not bowing to the Dundalk pressure.

You're a massive troll or the most blinkered fan I've ever come across, which is it?

You must have some hearing or maybe you're a professional lip reader. Are you suggesting that Hoban was faking injury?
Watch the game back and McCormack in particular every time there was a foul by Dundalk, hounding Doyle for cards, similar to Bolger when he was there. He actually did you a lot of favours last night, not booking McCormack, could have sent Keoghan off for his tackle on Hoare. Giving Cummins frees every time he backed in, grabbed the shirt and went to ground

Poor game overall, dominated possession but lacked a cutting edge. Cork setup for the draw with the hope of nicking a win and managed it with their only shot on target. The only consolation from last night is that if Cork continue to cough up that much possession in games they will come unstuck. Fully expect us to win the next one in Oriel, just depends what the table looks like when that comes around

[David BOHie]

Exactly. Pats were playing for the corner flag with 15 left and sat so deep inviting pressure. Murphy was very bad for both goals and the ref was terrible for both teams. Many, many times he blew the whistle for a free even though Bohs had a clear opportunity for an advantage.

Hard to tell whether it was a dive or not from our end. From my view I thought the player got the ball, meaning if Brennan went down there was probably contact but the tackle was legal, but then again there was another poster saying he was cleaned out and another saying it looked like he dived so we'll have to wait till Monday to find out.


EDIT: @MarinoBohs

[micls]

You're a massive troll or the most blinkered fan I've ever come across, which is it?

You must have some hearing or maybe you're a professional lip reader. Are you suggesting that Hoban was faking injury?
Watch the game back and McCormack in particular every time there was a foul by Dundalk, hounding Doyle for cards, similar to Bolger when he was there. He actually did you a lot of favours last night, not booking McCormack, could have sent Keoghan off for his tackle on Hoare. Giving Cummins frees every time he backed in, grabbed the shirt and went to ground

Poor game overall, dominated possession but lacked a cutting edge. Cork setup for the draw with the hope of nicking a win and managed it with their only shot on target. The only consolation from last night is that if Cork continue to cough up that much possession in games they will come unstuck. Fully expect us to win the next one in Oriel, just depends what the table looks like when that comes around

Whatever about the rest, but Hoban went to get up and McGrath pushed him back down, clearly indicating for him to stay down. It was ridiculous. Not sure if it was caught on camera, I haven't watched it back. Everyone was talking about it as it happens.

I'm not questioning that Hoban was hurt, but McGraths actions were clearly aimed at making more of it.

You guys go on continuously about us scoring our only shot in target. Similarly McNulty had one save to make, the difference being he made his.

[sullanefc]

You're a massive troll or the most blinkered fan I've ever come across, which is it?

You must have some hearing or maybe you're a professional lip reader. Are you suggesting that Hoban was faking injury?
Watch the game back and McCormack in particular every time there was a foul by Dundalk, hounding Doyle for cards, similar to Bolger when he was there. He actually did you a lot of favours last night, not booking McCormack, could have sent Keoghan off for his tackle on Hoare. Giving Cummins frees every time he backed in, grabbed the shirt and went to ground


Cummins had plenty of frees given against him too. Were you even watching the game?

Also, Keohane won the ball when he was booked. Not even a free. One of the incorrect decisions that Neil Doyle made as referenced above.

[Ezeikial]

Cummins had plenty of frees given against him too. Were you even watching the game?

Also, Keohane won the ball when he was booked. Not even a free. One of the incorrect decisions that Neil Doyle made as referenced above.

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[sullanefc]

Good man. It should be up on rte player now. Have a look at that first and come back to me.

[Crosshead]

You're a massive troll or the most blinkered fan I've ever come across, which is it?

You must have some hearing or maybe you're a professional lip reader. Are you suggesting that Hoban was faking injury?
Watch the game back and McCormack in particular every time there was a foul by Dundalk, hounding Doyle for cards, similar to Bolger when he was there. He actually did you a lot of favours last night, not booking McCormack, could have sent Keoghan off for his tackle on Hoare. Giving Cummins frees every time he backed in, grabbed the shirt and went to ground

Poor game overall, dominated possession but lacked a cutting edge. Cork setup for the draw with the hope of nicking a win and managed it with their only shot on target. The only consolation from last night is that if Cork continue to cough up that much possession in games they will come unstuck. Fully expect us to win the next one in Oriel, just depends what the table looks like when that comes around

And Shields and Cleary were equally lucky not to go in the book, the former also adept at hounding the official. Doyle was inconsistent last night.

As for the rest of your post, we've heard all that before.

[pineapple stu]

Cabo v Athlone abandoned due to floodlights failing

So that's Galway, Athlone, Drogheda and now Cabo that haves had lights failures this season

The First Division is dying on its feet at present

[rebel]

Pat Hoban(I think) was clapping the shed after the game last night. Thought that was strange.
I saw that too. I think he was just being sarcastic.

[Finlay Harp]

Longford 1 - 2 Harps. Hard to beat a 90th minute winner.

[nigel-harps1954]

Picking my eyelids with rusty nails would have been more enjoyable than watching the game in Longford tonight.

Horrible, horrible game of football.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Cabo v Athlone abandoned due to floodlights failing

So that's Galway, Athlone, Drogheda and now Cabo that haves had lights failures this season

The First Division is dying on its feet at present

Bray have a few out of commission too.

[oriel]

I saw that too. I think he was just being sarcastic.


It was probably around the same time the minority of the Cork fans in the shed started throwing bottles at the Dundalk team and officials leaving the pitch. Why would the tiny few even think of doing that?

I watched the game back, still think Dundalk deserved a draw but I will also counter this by saying we spent far far too much time passing along the back and in the middle, end of the day Dundalk didn't take their chances up front, Cork had one short on target and won the game, that's the way it goes.

Whats probably clear from last night is there is very little between both teams, I don't see either pulling away, the final two games will be key, and I think it will go into the last few weeks, possibly even the last week.

[oriel]

I think it's seen better days, but has seen worse too.

I know, as you do going by your second sentence, that both teams have to play on it.

I also know that time and time again Kenny is slow to give us any credit and time and time again trots out some new excuse or equivocation when we beat him.

As Gavin McLaughlin tweeted last night, here's Dundalk's record since 2015 at the Cross: P8 W1 D2 L5 F6 A13

Was the pitch to blame all those other times too?

He's a very good manager, but a very sore loser. To be honest the excuses, the "better team lost" statement, and general bitterness make our wins that little bit more enjoyable.

Not sure what the point is here, yes Dundalk have a very poor recent record at TX, but in that period mentioned still won 3 in a row league titles, so overall on all of those games and apart from one season (2017) they didn't really factor much in the end.

[hollocaine]

Picking my eyelids with rusty nails would have been more enjoyable than watching the game in Longford tonight.

Horrible, horrible game of football played by the away side.

You left out a few words there Nidge, so I added them in for you. You're welcome.

2nd half, we tried to play football and win the game. Not sure what game Harps were at. I'm going to call it hacking.

We lack a finisher or two. Obviously us losing to ye lot says a lot about our limitations, we need to toughen up a bit and start grinding out wins. But, hopefully by keeping the passing game going too.

[nigel-harps1954]

I honestly thought Longford were really poor too. A terrible game between two terrible teams.

Harps set up so so so negative. Even despite this, Longford were still poor. They played a bit of football around the middle of the park but despite one or two half saves from Gallagher never looked like scoring a second goal.

It took a cracker of a goal from outside the box to even get one.

[CorribsideSteve]

Cork (at times) are set up the same way as Ireland. Long balls to the big man, heroic all out defending, and scoring from a half chance with their only shot on target. Last night's game was very much a case of that. Dundalk realized once the goal went in ( and what a beauty it was) that dejavu was happening, Cork shut up shop, and they just fizzled out. Losing Gannon at HT was a big set back.John Mountney had a good game I thought, always like his style. All in all a game as exciting as a plain Ryvita but livened up by a wonderful goal.

[Mr A]

Longford could do with replacing a few bulbs at the car park end. It was noticeably darker there with four bulbs out.

As for the game.. not sure how the hell we won that. And I miss premier division refs. There is a noticeable difference in quality between the divisions.

[El-Pietro]

Cork (at times) are set up the same way as Ireland. Long balls to the big man, heroic all out defending, and scoring from a half chance with their only shot on target. Last night's game was very much a case of that. Dundalk realized once the goal went in ( and what a beauty it was) that dejavu was happening, Cork shut up shop, and they just fizzled out. Losing Gannon at HT was a big set back.John Mountney had a good game I thought, always like his style. All in all a game as exciting as a plain Ryvita but livened up by a wonderful goal.
Thats very unfair. On the surface the style might look similar but JC actually gives his players tactical instructions. We are also much better defensively than Ireland and rarely make mistakes.

[patrickccfc]

It was probably around the same time the minority of the Cork fans in the shed started throwing bottles at the Dundalk team and officials leaving the pitch. Why would the tiny few even think of doing that?

There's no need for that sort of behaviour no matter what transpires on the pitch. I hate seeing it happen and if someone in my vicinity did that, I would most definitely make my feelings known to them. Absolutely no place for that at a football match.

[Charlie Darwin]

Exactly. Pats were playing for the corner flag with 15 left and sat so deep inviting pressure. Murphy was very bad for both goals and the ref was terrible for both teams. Many, many times he blew the whistle for a free even though Bohs had a clear opportunity for an advantage.

Hard to tell whether it was a dive or not from our end. From my view I thought the player got the ball, meaning if Brennan went down there was probably contact but the tackle was legal, but then again there was another poster saying he was cleaned out and another saying it looked like he dived so we'll have to wait till Monday to find out.


EDIT: @MarinoBohs
Pats played for a 0-0 in Tallaght too. Barely got out of their own half. I can see why a team like Bohs playing football would have them do the same, especially with ten men. I think Bucko realises the lads he has now aren't a patch on his teams of old and can't play the same way all the time.

[CorribsideSteve]

Thats very unfair. On the surface, the style might look similar but JC actually gives his players tactical instructions. We are also much better defensively than Ireland and rarely make mistakes.
Fair enough. At times ye play some very decent stuff, and I guess last night had to be pragmatism over style considering that Dundalk would want to play their game. It's effective and gets the job done. Praise has to go to the back 4. Dundalk didn't have an answer.

[outspoken]

Picking my eyelids with rusty nails would have been more enjoyable than watching the game in Longford tonight.

Horrible, horrible game of football.

Correction, watching harps was horrible. Deliberately targeted young Aodh Dervin and kicked him off the field. Some absolutely disgraceful challenges not punished by a weak referee who allowed unbelievable amounts of time wasting. Longford the only team that tried to win the game and played some beautiful football on the night but that’s our problem we are too naive. Harps knew how to kill the game and got their reward when our keeper dropped a clanger.

[marinobohs]

Pats played for a 0-0 in Tallaght too. Barely got out



of their own half. I can see why a team like Bohs playing football would have them do the same, especially with ten men. I think Bucko realises the lads he has now aren't a patch on his teams of old and can't play the same way all the time.
Probably Bohs worst display of the season and fortunate that Pats were so dreadful. Sending off happened at far end so couldn’t really see but ref seemed definite. Even with 11 players Pats were poor and played little by way of football.
Dylan Watts is an outstanding player, worth the entrance fee alone.

[nigel-harps1954]

Correction, watching harps was horrible. Deliberately targeted young Aodh Dervin and kicked him off the field. Some absolutely disgraceful challenges not punished by a weak referee who allowed unbelievable amounts of time wasting. Longford the only team that tried to win the game and played some beautiful football on the night but that’s our problem we are too naive. Harps knew how to kill the game and got their reward when our keeper dropped a clanger.

Did you really think Longford played beautiful football?
Christ...if that is what's considered beautiful football then I'm lost for words.

Targeting a player is a laughable accusation. The amount of tackles Longford got away with was hilarious. I would certainly agree with the weak referee remark in that regard.

[L.T.F.C.]

Did you really think Longford played beautiful football?
Christ...if that is what's considered beautiful football then I'm lost for words.

Targeting a player is a laughable accusation. The amount of tackles Longford got away with was hilarious. I would certainly agree with the weak referee remark in that regard.

Before the ye got the winner, we're were laughing at the ****e you'd be talking - you've lived up to all expectations!

[nigel-harps1954]

Before the ye got the winner, we're were laughing at the ****e you'd be talking - you've lived up to all expectations!

Laugh away. I'm happy enough with three points that we never deserved. :cool:

[Nesta99]

What was more worrying was McGrath telling Whooobin to stay down and have another few rolls while the rest of the team surround the ref to get McCormack a card. Ye really have a cynical team. No doubt well coached in the dark arts.


He gave a few strange decisions but overall I felt he did well in not bowing to the Dundalk pressure.

More worrying than jumping in to a player with a leading forearm to the head. Whatever McGrath did or said the bandaging 'round Hobam's head was pretty obvious so you couldnt have missed it. Hoban disappeared out of the game bar a few airkicks so concussion wasnt out of the question. Winning the ball and winning the ball dangerously and catching a player studs up at the knee are two differentt things. The Ref gave a free for the challang on McGrath and it could have been a card too. Obvious Cork bias from a Dublin ref

[CorribsideSteve]

http://www.dundalkfc.com/kenny-connolly-criticism-unfair/

Interesting interview from Kenny, basically saying Dylan Connoly comes in for way too much criticism, given his young age and the big money signing tag that's associated with him. Also, 2 fractured ribs for Gannon, out 4-6 weeks. Dundalk fans would see him more often, do ye think he will come good eventually? It's hard to see at the moment, he looks a bit lost any time I've seen him on TV, but he still has to live off of minutes from the bench, so not always easy to make an impact.

[Ezeikial]

http://www.dundalkfc.com/kenny-connolly-criticism-unfair/

Interesting interview from Kenny, basically saying Dylan Connoly comes in for way too much criticism, given his young age and the big money signing tag that's associated with him. Also, 2 fractured ribs for Gannon, out 4-6 weeks. Dundalk fans would see him more often, do ye think he will come good eventually? It's hard to see at the moment, he looks a bit lost any time I've seen him on TV, but he still has to live off of minutes from the bench, so not always easy to make an impact.

In a word - no

His confidence seems well shot. Maybe the ankle injury SK talked about is a bigger issue than was generally known. I am not optimistic although SK has an incredible track record of turning players careers around

[El-Pietro]

The only criticism of Connolly I have read has been from fans, and rightly so. Hes ****e. He was ****e when he was at Bray but he looked good in a bad team. He has pace and nothing else.

[Yossarian]

It’s s strange one from Kenny, I haven’t read or heard much if any criticism of Connolly in the media. It’s all been from the supporters and it’s been valid. I can’t see any potential for improvement, all he has is pace but he doesn’t even know how to use that effectively. I despair when he is brought on and I think he affects Gannons ability to get forward as he doesn’t provide much protection either.

[outspoken]

Did you really think Longford played beautiful football?
Christ...if that is what's considered beautiful football then I'm lost for words.

Targeting a player is a laughable accusation. The amount of tackles Longford got away with was hilarious. I would certainly agree with the weak referee remark in that regard.

We never went long once all night (even though most fans feel we need to start learning to do so to avoid these stupid goals). Harps sat with 10 men behind the ball, we had to play in extremely tight spaces where even one loose touch or pass would be punished and yet we still managed to create bucket loads of chances so yes we played some superb football as the highlights prove, our goal was a beauty in itself even though if I was OH I’d kill the midfielder who let McGlade just walk off him to get a free shot at goal. Anyway it’s gone now, same old from us. Playing great, the better team by far but no game management has cost us points. Be doing well to get 4th spot now.

[Couch Potato]

Probably Bohs worst display of the season and fortunate that Pats were so dreadful. Sending off happened at far end so couldn’t really see but ref seemed definite. Even with 11 players Pats were poor and played little by way of football.
Dylan Watts is an outstanding player, worth the entrance fee alone.


Pats in control of the game up until the sending off, Watts hardly got a touch of the ball until then, granted he was very good after that.
There was contact for the peno incident but it might not have been enough for a foul but could have been enough for it not to be a dive one of those were you've seen them given but seen them waved away too.


Thought Pats were solid too after the sending off and looked to be taking all 3 points until Murphy decided to almost throw the ball into his own net for the Bohs first goal.

It certainly isn't an open free flowing Bucko team of old but there is still quality there and far more resilient than last few seasons, were a god keeper and a certain forward away from the top 4 IMO.

[Mr A]

Harps were very lucky but showed a bit of steel. Longford had a lot of pressure without really working Gallagher that much. Game was a mirror image of some of ours this season where we had all the ball and failed to work the opposition keeper.

The ref was absolutely abject.

[L.T.F.C.]

Harps were very lucky but showed a bit of steel. Longford had a lot of pressure without really working Gallagher that much. Game was a mirror image of some of ours this season where we had all the ball and failed to work the opposition keeper.

The ref was absolutely abject.
He had to make two great saves before our equaliser and we had three cleared off the line.

[brendy_éire]

Should have got 3 points in Derry tonight. Much improved performance......

Certainly should have. Way too many chances missed.
It was a poor performance from all involved really, both teams and officials.
We lacked any real attacking threat, the crowded midfield killed it. We stuck to our usual passing out from the back routine, but Shams closed us down, pressured the play, and generally contained us.
Going forward however, they were just so wasteful. We should have lost that game, but for the poor attacking of Shams. Is Carr usually that bad? And if so, why is he playing?

On that officials, how Boyle got away with his attacks on Curtis, I don't know. Going with the elbows in, à la the Michael O'Neill days, was pretty disgraceful. Took five minutes for him to get stitches, but had to be substituted. I'll presume he was targeted.

Frustrating that we played so poorly, especially considering the crowd, but lucky to get the point, and it was certainly an improvement of the last time down in Tallaght.

As for some off-field stuff, away support fighting amongst themselves, though appeared to be sorted by some of the more sensible heads.
Added to that, a Derry fanner was stolen after the game. The morons then stuck their photos up on Facebook in Emyvale. It's been passed on to the relevant people, we're told.

[sbgawa]

Car isn't normally that bad AFAIK he is suspended for tonights game against Cork and will be missed, he just had one of those nights but overall I was happy with the performance, if we can replicate going forward that will be the thing.
I doubt Boyle was targeting Curtis haven't seen that from him at all just match stuff , sometimes things happen.
Limerick tonight will be interesting match for you, we missed a hatfull of chances against them in Tallaght in the drawn game (car was suspended) , based on everything ive seen you should be getting 3 points but Limerick will bring effort and home advantage.

[patrickccfc]

Brutal stuff from us tonight. 2 down in tallaght. Dundalk two up on pats.

[Calcio Jack]

Brutal stuff from us tonight. 2 down in tallaght. Dundalk two up on pats.

Make that 3-0 and it’s brilliant from Rovers - it’s the inconsistency that’s killing us

[patrickccfc]

A result like this has been coming for us really. Performances have been very poor. Amazing really that we find ourselves level on points at the top.

[redarmyfaction]

A result like this has been coming for us really. Performances have been very poor. Amazing really that we find ourselves level on points at the top.

Yup..