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OwlsFan
05/02/2018, 9:15 AM
That's probably a little bit too much "If my auntie had balls", I think. Lots of things could have swung it; I think overall the good breaks we got out-weighed the bad ones.

Not really. Draw away. Beat them at home and you should qualify. We had 17 shots to 8 in the home game. It was just one of those games where it just wasn't going to happen.
Fixer82
05/02/2018, 2:08 PM
Not really. Draw away. Beat them at home and you should qualify. We had 17 shots to 8 in the home game. It was just one of those games where it just wasn't going to happen.

True. We played well in that game but they got a breakaway. It wasn't to be our day
jbyrne
05/02/2018, 3:41 PM
True. We played well in that game but they got a breakaway. It wasn't to be our day

denied a penalty for a foul on murphy and murphy also brought down while bearing down on goal resulting in a red. definitely our best home performance
pineapple stu
05/02/2018, 4:31 PM
We were good for the first half an hour in that game, and then faded badly. The last 20 minutes - against ten men - were about as abject as we had all campaign.

I just think our problems go a lot deeper than just one match.
passinginterest
08/02/2018, 7:00 AM
Eamon Dunphy is sobbing into his weetabix this morning as Wessi announces his international retirement. Call him up Trap.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0208/939166-wes-hoolahan-announces-ireland-retirement/
DeLorean
08/02/2018, 7:21 AM
Inevitable I suppose but a sad day nonetheless. :(
OwlsFan
08/02/2018, 7:54 AM
Eamon Dunphy is sobbing into his weetabix this morning as Wessi announces his international retirement. Call him up Trap.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0208/939166-wes-hoolahan-announces-ireland-retirement/

So what will be the next stick for him to beat the Irish manager with ? Matt Doherty from Wolves ?

Wes had an enigmatic career. Seemed to have everything but spent much of his career outside the top flight and never played for a top club. Only 43 caps as well. I have an English friend who is a Norwich fan and they called him the Irish Messi.
backstothewall
08/02/2018, 8:03 AM
Smashing player. His 20s were one of the great missed opportunities for Irish football, but an even bigger one for him personally. The talent was obviously there.

But we'll always have Paris.
OwlsFan
08/02/2018, 8:16 AM
Smashing player. His 20s were one of the great missed opportunities for Irish football, but an even bigger one for him personally. The talent was obviously there.

But for much of his 20s he was playing in Scotland or the third tier of English football if I remember correctly.
seanfhear
08/02/2018, 8:28 AM
Dunphy should retire in protest at Wes’s retirement .
backstothewall
08/02/2018, 9:13 AM
But for much of his 20s he was playing in Scotland or the third tier of English football if I remember correctly.

I think you are misunderstanding the point I am making. The missed opportunity is that he was playing at that level when he obviously had the talent to be at a higher level.

Either everybody missed how good he was, or he wasn't playing to his potential. The latter seems the more likely but either way it was a missed opportunity.
OwlsFan
08/02/2018, 3:04 PM
Yes, I thought you meant Ireland was at fault for not selecting him when he was in the third tier.

Never got this regular substitution of him after 70 minutes in international and club football. I know he used to put in a good shift but still seemed to be going strong.
DannyInvincible
08/02/2018, 4:11 PM
I think you are misunderstanding the point I am making. The missed opportunity is that he was playing at that level when he obviously had the talent to be at a higher level.

Either everybody missed how good he was, or he wasn't playing to his potential. The latter seems the more likely but either way it was a missed opportunity.

He says himself (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/wes-hoolahan-retires-republic-of-ireland-international-euro-2016-a8200471.html) it was due to poor nutrition and conditioning. Essentially, he wasn't on the diet you would expect of a top-flight professional footballer until later in his career. I think it was through lack of education or knowledge than anything.


Back then [at Shelbourne and Livingstone], you didn’t realise what a diet was. After a game, it was a burger and chips and a few pints. I just thought that was the norm in the League [of Ireland] and even when I went to England, diet and nutrition wasn't there. Now it’s all in place.