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tetsujin1979
08/10/2004, 10:52 AM
from mcfc.co.uk
The future of defender Paddy McCarthy at City could be discussed at the next board meeting.
The central defender's current deal at Manchester City will run out at the end of this season.
He spent a period on loan at Boston United last year and is a regular in the Republic of Ireland U21 squad.
His international career started when he was captain of the Ireland Under 16 side that played in the European Championships in 2000 while he was still a member of the Stella Maris club in Dublin.
A regular in the City reserve side he is currently on international duty as the Republic of Ireland U21s prepare for their European Championship qualifier against France on Friday night.
But the former Academy player has yet to break through into the City first team and his club future could be decided in the coming months.
"If I don't pretty soon involve Paddy somewhere, then I have got to allow him to leave," said Kevin Keegan.
"That's the sort of deal I agreed with him when he signed for another year and what I told the board.
"We like Paddy, who has done well, because he has leadership qualities. His situation is one for the board to consider at the next meeting.
"Do they give him a bit longer here now that he is right on the fringes because we have not got a big squad now."
I like the look of McCarthy a lot. Would be a real waste if Keegan lets him go. Especially with the limited options Man City have defensively. If he chose to he could easily get his game in a Championship team though.
blobbyblob
08/10/2004, 2:10 PM
saw him play against cyrus recently and he was a rock - very quick and two good feet
Signed for Leicester for 100k.
Probably a good move for him as he was down the pecking order at City.
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/acrossthewater/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=16284
Eirambler
03/03/2005, 9:20 AM
Very good move for him, if Leicester have only 2 centre halves he should get a game.
Goes against Keegans idea of not letting his young players go on the cheap after Elliott went though
Stuttgart88
03/03/2005, 9:22 AM
No substitute for first team football, assuming he gets it.
I'm surprised you beat Tetsujin to posting this! He must be away. :)
saw Mccarthy a couple of times for u-21's, strong, good in air and not slow, Keegan is making another mistake as in my opinion he should've held on to Elliot a lot longer as well.
Eirambler
03/03/2005, 10:10 AM
Apparently Leicester are also on the verge of signing Darren Kenton on loan, so he may have more competition than I thought
eirebhoy
03/03/2005, 10:22 AM
Great news. Keegan really ought to learn that you have to try out the acadamy players. Willo Flood has only made 2 sub appearances since the Birmingham game in November.
tetsujin1979
03/03/2005, 10:55 AM
As a man city fan I'm ****ed that another young, promising Irish player has had to move on to get regular first team football after Elliott and Whelan in the summer - and Paul Murphy and Stephen Paisley before that - but as an Ireland fan it's good that one of our promising U-21's could be getting regular first team football from here on in.
Report on man city's page here (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/article.asp?article=259628&Title=Defender+moves+on)
Report on leicester's page here (http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10274~634405,00.html?ptvParm=)
Thought he had more than 4 caps for the U-21s? Probably closer to 14!
I'm surprised you beat Tetsujin to posting this! He must be away. :)
Err, bit busy at work at the moment.
carnstien
03/03/2005, 2:07 PM
I too have seen McCarthy play for the U-21's and can't believe Keegan is letting him go like Elliot, when will he learn!
Man City aren't exactly brilliant at the back and I definately think McCarthy is as good as anything they have there at the moment.
He's great in the air, has good feet and passes the ball well. I am sure he will find his way back into the Premiership.
eirebhoy
03/03/2005, 2:25 PM
Man City aren't exactly brilliant at the back
Give or take a couple of goals and Man U and Chelsea are the only team with a better defensive record this season. They have no back up at centre half though which is the reason I find it strange.
byrnie20
03/03/2005, 2:39 PM
Its even more strange how he does not pick Willo Flood on the right and move Wright Phillips up front,espically with not having a goalscorer.Keegan seems reluctant to give yougsters a chance.
Slash/ED
03/03/2005, 2:51 PM
Lets hope he's another Elliot and proves Keegan wrong (again).
eirebhoy
03/03/2005, 2:55 PM
Lets hope he's another Elliot and proves Keegan wrong (again).
I don't think either Elliott or McCarthy would be proving Keegan wrong. Keegan rates both highly but just won't try them out. Bradley Wright Phillips would be getting a lot more games at other midtable premiership clubs considering the (lack of) competition he faces.
tetsujin1979
03/03/2005, 4:08 PM
Give or take a couple of goals and Man U and Chelsea are the only team with a better defensive record this season. They have no back up at centre half though which is the reason I find it strange.
Nedum Onuoha was keeping Paddy McCarthy off the bench, which was odd, seeing as he's only 18 and Paddy is 21. Think he might have thought his chances were limited after hearing for so long that his time was "coming" so he left.
Its even more strange how he does not pick Willo Flood on the right and move Wright Phillips up front,espically with not having a goalscorer.Keegan seems reluctant to give yougsters a chance.
Pretty much the same reason Duff doesn't play up front - most effective player being played out of position. I expect SWP to be sold this summer, probably to Arsenal, if/when he goes Willo will get his chance. He's a regular on the bench, and at his age he probably couldn't ask for more.
Bradley Wright Phillips would be getting a lot more games at other midtable premiership clubs considering the (lack of) competition he faces.
Hard to call on this one, Keegan has said he won't experiment wih the side between now and the end of the season, the team has gotten to 10th in the table, with a decent defensive record, if he changed it now and it all went pear shaped, he'd be castigated for changing a winning team (ok, performing well more than winning) and he's probably not going to take that risk.
byrnie20
03/03/2005, 5:55 PM
Disagree with you there S W P was a striker as a youngster and his goal scoring record is very good for a winger(in a average premiership team) he has the ability to play upfront at the highest level. I must admit I would like Willo Flood to play more because Ireland lack a natural right footed winger so Iam biased.I also belive Duff played amazing upfront in the 2002 world cup when he was given the free role.By the way Nedum Onuoha is very good and can play a few postions.
eirebhoy
03/03/2005, 6:36 PM
If Flood was to get his game it would be at the expense of Musampa if anyone. He can play on the left wing too so I Musampa better be on his toes.
byrnie20
04/03/2005, 8:34 AM
Seems like he's going to play now, S W P out for 6-8 weeks.
eirebhoy - I did not know he could play left wing as well.
eirebhoy
04/03/2005, 9:57 AM
eirebhoy - I did not know he could play left wing as well.
yeah, seen him play there in the second half against Norwich. Played well.
byrnie20
04/03/2005, 10:14 AM
eirebhoy - was that the recent match ?
eirebhoy
04/03/2005, 10:19 AM
No it was back in October/November.
byrnie20
04/03/2005, 10:23 AM
Oh right cheers another versatile option for us
tetsujin1979
04/03/2005, 10:46 AM
yeah, seen him play there in the second half against Norwich. Played well.
He scored as well, afgter about 11 minutes, but I thought he came in from the right for the goal?
We'll see how it goes on monday against Bolton.
eirebhoy
04/03/2005, 10:56 AM
He scored as well, afgter about 11 minutes, but I thought he came in from the right for the goal?
We'll see how it goes on monday against Bolton.
yeah, played on the left in the second half.
Eirambler
05/03/2005, 7:51 PM
McCarthy was an unused sub today, Leicester lost, theyre now in danger of 2 relegations in a row
eirebhoy
07/03/2005, 12:33 PM
So Keegan let him go for the same reason he let Whelan go, he was thinking of the players. Don't see why he couldn't have sent him out on loan though I'm not complaining.
"Paddy can argue that he never got a chance and that’s a fact. But he never got a chance because of the form of Sylvain and Richard and also that Nedum Onuoha is an exceptional talent.
"We could have kept him here for another year and a half – it might have been wise to do that bearing in mind the size of our squad. But it was right for Paddy to go to Leicester and play for a manager like Craig Levein.
"He will teach him a lot because he has played in that position. He will be playing in big games that really matter rather than in reserve games that are just there for players to get their fitness.
"Paddy has been great at this club. He has been here a long time but he has never come and knocked my door down and said anything wrong. He has been an absolute model professional and I think he will end up playing Premiership football."
tetsujin1979
08/03/2005, 6:00 PM
He'd been out on loan twice, would really have given him the wrong idea with so little left on his contract to send him out on loan again. Better to get something for him now, rather than nothing next season
Paddy McCarthy played last night against Burnley and was solid as a rock. Happened to be driving up M1 in England last night and heard some of the report on Leicester radio. They said he defended well, took no chances but at the same time was good on the ball and didn't just lump it away, this move could be the making of the man.
eirebhoy
10/05/2005, 4:07 PM
From a Leicester fans sig:
(To the tune of "thats amore")
When a tackle goes in
You can bet that its him
Pat Mccarthy.....
He's the best in the land
Only cost a hundred Grand
Pat Mccarthy!
:)
livehead1
10/05/2005, 4:35 PM
is he any good tho? aint heard much bout him since he left man city
Stuttgart88
10/05/2005, 4:41 PM
Check out the last few posts in the "Irish Players in England..." sticky above.
There's a new poster who is a season ticket holder at Leicester & he's given his views on all the Irish at Leicester, including the youth teamers.
Really useful stuff.
drummerboy
30/03/2007, 12:52 PM
According to the Daily Star (sorry I haven't got a link), Fulham boss, Chris Coleman is lining up a bid to sign Paddy McCarthy from Leicester to replace Zac Knight. I’ve seen McCarthy play, and his is just as good, if not better, than the impressive Paul McShane. This move would be a good one for the centre half.
DeNiro
30/03/2007, 12:56 PM
That sort of talk is always ripe coming to the end of a season. The Daily Mail :rolleyes: , I believe, had it yesterday that Martin O'Neill was looking at McShane last Saturday.
Nailer77
30/03/2007, 1:23 PM
That sort of talk is always ripe coming to the end of a season. The Daily Mail :rolleyes: , I believe, had it yesterday that Martin O'Neill was looking at McShane last Saturday.
Well Villa could do worse than McShane and if any PL managers were looking at our last few games then they should be interested. McCarthy is an interesting one and given our lack of options at CB I can't really understand why Stan hasn't had a look at him in the senior squad, apparantly its something to do with his on field discipline but we're not exactly spoilt for choice there and he'd only be cover anyway.
youngirish
30/03/2007, 3:54 PM
According to the Daily Star (sorry I haven't got a link), Fulham boss, Chris Coleman is lining up a bid to sign Paddy McCarthy from Leicester to replace Zac Knight. I’ve seen McCarthy play, and his is just as good, if not better, than the impressive Paul McShane. This move would be a good one for the centre half.
What planet are you from? McCarthy is nowhere near the quality of McShane ffs. He isn't even a regular starter for Leicester anymore who are sh*t. He's also a lot older so is unlikely to improve much (about 24 I think). Did I mention he gets booked every match and sent off every second match?
DmanDmythDledge
30/03/2007, 3:58 PM
What planet are you from? McCarthy is nowhere near the quality of McShane ffs. He isn't even a regular starter for Leicester anymore who are sh*t. He's also a lot older so is unlikely to improve much (about 24 I think). Did I mention he gets booked every match and sent off every second match?
He's 23 so is years away from his peak.
He is injured and out for the rest of the season.
McShane's discipline is almost as bad as McCarthy's.
tetsujin1979
30/03/2007, 4:03 PM
What planet are you from? McCarthy is nowhere near the quality of McShane ffs. He isn't even a regular starter for Leicester anymore who are sh*t. He's also a lot older so is unlikely to improve much (about 24 I think). Did I mention he gets booked every match and sent off every second match?
He isn't starting because he's injured. McShane is 21, McCarthy is 23. He's had 9 bookings in 22 games, hardly "every game". One red card this season too.
youngirish
30/03/2007, 4:36 PM
He isn't starting because he's injured. McShane is 21, McCarthy is 23. He's had 9 bookings in 22 games, hardly "every game". One red card this season too.
Slight exageration. I thought this was obvious but in reality a booking every 2 games is hardly a good disciplinary record. Recently he's been demoted to the bench when fit. He's also 24 in a few weeks if we want to be exact about it.
And he's nowhere near the player McShane is.
SaucyJack
30/03/2007, 5:38 PM
When McCarthy was playing, wasn't he the Leicester captain, or was that just for a couple of games?
carloz
30/03/2007, 5:52 PM
McCarthy was generally one of the first names on the Leicester team sheet before his injury. Sure he is the club captain
kev mcq
30/03/2007, 6:38 PM
Slight exageration. I thought this was obvious but in reality a booking every 2 games is hardly a good disciplinary record. Recently he's been demoted to the bench when fit. He's also 24 in a few weeks if we want to be exact about it.
And he's nowhere near the player McShane is.
are you a WUM? He's out injurd with a broken collarbone so how could he be playing? He was playing every game before the injury when fit. He's the club captain ffs :rolleyes:
stojkovic
30/03/2007, 9:16 PM
What's a WUM?????
White Un-educated Muppet
FarBeag
30/03/2007, 9:50 PM
White Un-educated Muppet
Ha Ha...You wind up merchant ya (WUM):)
drummerboy
30/03/2007, 10:34 PM
What planet are you from? McCarthy is nowhere near the quality of McShane ffs. He isn't even a regular starter for Leicester anymore who are sh*t. He's also a lot older so is unlikely to improve much (about 24 I think). Did I mention he gets booked every match and sent off every second match?
As has been pointed out above McCarthy is the club captain with Leicester. He has been a regular up until the time he got injured. He has a huge presence about him. McShane has been playing at right back all season. I was at the game on Wednesday night. McShane done well. but the physical slovakian forward knocked him over quite a few times. Its a real pitty McShane is not a little bigger. McCarthy on the other hand has the physical presence. I think he will be a real option in years to come.
Qwerty
30/03/2007, 11:12 PM
On the discipline arguments:
McCarthy : 23 starts, 7 yellows and 1 red ( 2 yellows in same game ) - last season in 41 starts he had 12 yellows and 2 reds.
McShane : 31 starts. 8 yellows and 1 straight red.
For comparison purposes, an Irish player who has been a success at Wolves, the one, the only Gary Breen:
36 starts, 5 yellows, 1 red.
If there is onje area where Stan should excel it is in judging defenders, if Geary and McCarthy don't tickle his fancy I'm OK with that.
danonion
31/03/2007, 2:56 AM
I think if he recalled Gary Breen it would make my life complete.
Raheny Red
01/04/2007, 1:29 PM
If I hear anything before it's in the papers I'll post it here!
kev mcq
01/04/2007, 10:14 PM
I'm still staggered by that WUM reference. Different planet for you D4 boys. No wonder I left.
What have D4 boys got to do with this?:confused:
youngirish
02/04/2007, 9:47 AM
are you a WUM? He's out injurd with a broken collarbone so how could he be playing? He was playing every game before the injury when fit. He's the club captain ffs :rolleyes:
He's out injured now. I was talking about the season as a whole not the last two games.
And just for clarity he hasn't started every game this season when fit he's been on the bench a number of times. Have a look at his substitute appearances and take into account there's also been an additional number of times when he's been on the bench but hasn't come on. I suppose he was sitting on the bench with a broken collarbone?
Anyway point was he's sh*t and Leicester defensively are sh*t also. Many Leicester fans agree with me. Have a look at this forum which names their worst player of the season. He's mentioned more than a few times. Hardly the sign of a top player. Also take it into account the small fact that unlike you they've probably seen him play (as I have):
http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=34922&st=0&start=0
They also mention his move to Fulham here:
http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=35191&st=40
and here:
http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=35326
Hardly giving glowing reports are they? Not one mentions him in a positive light.
Why do you think I'm a WUM because I don't agree with your obviously vast all seeing all knowing knowledge of the football scene? Good one.
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