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elatedscum
12/04/2022, 4:25 PM
Thanks tets, checked twitter at kickoff. Should have expected the fai to be a little late with it.
Should have won that by quite a few goals. Was only able to half watch the second half but properly saw the first half. Plenty of decent looking players with a long way to go: O'Sullivan, Kone-Doherty, Dodd, Grante, Razi, Okosun, Negry-McGrath etc etc
tetsujin1979
12/04/2022, 4:38 PM
Game is still available on YouTube
Ireland's two goals in quick succession, at 35:20(on the game clock) and the second straight from the restart after it
Crossbar is rattled at 81:50
Kone-Doherty looked good, tall for his age, and lanky
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Rokas Katkauskas who is 14 going on 15 has been called up to the Lithuania u17s for afew friendlies.
Eirambler
17/04/2022, 4:44 PM
This is an issue we're going to have more and more from now on. It's a lot easier for Lithuania, Latvia and Poland to call up dual eligible players from Ireland than it was for Nigeria to do it.
This is an issue we're going to have more and more from now on. It's a lot easier for Lithuania, Latvia and Poland to call up dual eligible players from Ireland than it was for Nigeria to do it.
I’d say Poland would be the big worry (Poland even called up a Shamrock Rovers player to their squad versus Ireland) Latvia & Lithuania I’d be confident we’d keep hold of the top prospects. I’m not sure how good Rokas is but Ireland aren’t playing and being called up to a squad 2 years older than his current level is hard to turn down. I do know that Rolas is HUGE though.
tetsujin1979
22/04/2022, 1:15 PM
U16 defender Sean Hayden on trial with Grasshoppers in Zurich
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U16 defender Sean Hayden on trial with Grasshoppers in Zurich
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He seems to be highly rated but is it just more or is he not the tallest for a CB? Or is it just players like Okosun are giants and make him look shorter in comparison?
Another one of Stephen Ireland's clients.
elatedscum
31/10/2022, 3:41 PM
I watched the draw with Wales (on stream) yesterday.
We were the better side in the second half. First half was pretty end to end, Wales’ Tyler Myles was causing us all kinds of problems. But in the second half, we had about 5 chances to win it which we should have taken.
From an irish perspective, Ike Orazi was excellent. He’s raw but he’s very physically mature. He just went passed players with ease, was too fast and too strong. Serious potential, hard to tell at that age, how much is due to him being an early developer but really really exciting nonetheless.
Niall McAndrew was another one who is physically so advanced. Reminded me of Killian Phillips or Declan Rice playing underage.
Mason Melia missed an absolute sitter from a yard out but he did really well to get there, good movement and instincts. Held up the ball well throughout.
Joe Collins saved two excellent penalties. Didn’t have a lot to do in the game. Wind was hard to deal with, might have been a factor in the second goal. Not the tallest but he’s probably still growing
Kaylem Harnett was also pretty impressive. Voto, Murray and Moore all had their moments.
Interesting to see how we do against the north
Glenn Whelan is part of the coaching staff for the victory shield.
Best Scotland today 4-1 to win the Victory Shield. After beating Wales on penalties we beat NI 3-1 on penalties after drawing 1-1. Marcus Gill going one better than Joe Collins and saving three penalities in the shoot out.
tetsujin1979
15/02/2023, 10:51 AM
Friendly against Switzerland to be streamed on YouTube at 12, details below
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tetsujin1979
17/02/2023, 1:27 PM
Second game against the Swiss today, streaming link below
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A new contender enters for best name with Empoli's Matteo Egan getting his first call up.
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Olé Olé
05/05/2023, 1:11 PM
A new contender enters for best name with Empoli's Matteo Egan getting his first call up.
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https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/mu16-osam-selects-squad-of-21-for-slovakia-tournament
You prompted me to look into the clubs of the players' after the Empoli representative.
A few other interesting ones.
Chelsea and Villa have a McGlinchey and a Lynskey in there. Strong Irish names and assuming that these are not from the Irish schoolboy/LOI club system.
Aaron Ochoa Moloney of Malaga is called up again
William Martin of Odense also. This guy looks to be a Danish youth international.
tetsujin1979
15/05/2023, 11:57 AM
Beat Slovakia 2-1 earlier to win the tournament.
The game was streamed on YouTube, goals from William Martin at 14:10 and a penalty from Michael Noonan at 1:14:50 below
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tetsujin1979
27/07/2023, 8:44 PM
Michael Noonan is over at Spurs for ten days according to his mother on Twitter
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liamoo11
27/07/2023, 11:14 PM
Michael Noonan is over at Spurs for ten days according to his mother on Twitter
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Ferguson situation so is it English parent or born in England?
He is in the year below melia (but both are playing are a year up internationall) so could be difficult to get senior minutes at pats in the next few years
tetsujin1979
27/07/2023, 11:31 PM
No idea. It could just be a training camp. I think he doesn't need international clearance if that's the case. Friend's son was at one in Everton before. An actual trial needs paperwork, official approaches, clearance from the club, etc.
(anyone else annoyed by the X logo in embedded tweets now?)
tetsujin1979
28/09/2023, 11:29 AM
Under 16's playing Finland in Drogheda today, streaming link below.
Just gone one up with a penalty from Noonan
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Stuttgart88
28/09/2023, 2:19 PM
Won 3-2
liamoo11
04/11/2023, 12:36 PM
https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/mu16-osam-names-victory-shield-squad-for-title-defence
Squad for victory shield
https://www.irishfa.com/news/2023/november/u16s-squad-for-shield-campaign-named
The north's squad. Mccourt played for us previously. One Dublin based player
Games are free on loitv
Olé Olé
04/11/2023, 12:53 PM
https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/mu16-osam-names-victory-shield-squad-for-title-defence
Squad for victory shield
https://www.irishfa.com/news/2023/november/u16s-squad-for-shield-campaign-named
The north's squad. Mccourt played for us previously. One Dublin based player
Games are free on loitv
Jay McEvoy at Man United is Rio McEvoy's brother I believe? Rio moved over and back between ours and the NI set up and looking at Transfermarkt his professional career has been stop start the past while and is in stop mode at present.
elatedscum
04/11/2023, 9:16 PM
https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/mu16-osam-names-victory-shield-squad-for-title-defence
Squad for victory shield
https://www.irishfa.com/news/2023/november/u16s-squad-for-shield-campaign-named
The north's squad. Mccourt played for us previously. One Dublin based player
Games are free on loitv
The dublin based player, Christian Coyle, also played with Ireland at u15s. His father played for Bray, Longford and Drogheda. Qualifies for the north as his mother is from (I think) Belfast.
tetsujin1979
06/11/2023, 11:45 AM
First game against Scotland today, live streaming on LOI TV and YouTube
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elatedscum
06/11/2023, 1:41 PM
1-0 win. Probably should have scored 10. Noonan could have had a hat trick. Umeh could have scored 5. Keeper made a tonne of good saves for Scotland and attacking players were a little wasteful
tetsujin1979
06/11/2023, 3:35 PM
Pitch was in rag order as well
Wales score after 2 minutes.
Wales are thought to be poxy *******s from a young age arent they...
HT and its 2-0 to Wales and that half has to be seen to be believed, literally all Ireland throughout and Wales score from literally the only 2 times they've tested the Irish keeper. You'll never see a scoreline flatter a side more than this one.
elatedscum
08/11/2023, 5:50 PM
HT and its 2-0 to Wales and that half has to be seen to be believed, literally all Ireland throughout and Wales score from literally the only 2 times they've tested the Irish keeper. You'll never see a scoreline flatter a side more than this one.
Ireland should be 4 or 5-2 up. Thought the second goal might have been offside.
The second game is always tough, it's a significantly weaker Ireland team with a lot of their best players not involved (Umeh, Noonan, Finneran in the top tier - Ogbonna, Olatide, McDonnell, Topcu, Lee in tier two). Martos over Keeley is probably the only improvement and he's not having a good game at all. Really struggling to spray the ball with the pitch in rag order again.
Ireland should be 4 or 5-2 up. Thought the second goal might have been offside.
The second game is always tough, it's a significantly weaker Ireland team with a lot of their best players not involved (Umeh, Noonan, Finneran in the top tier - Ogbonna, Olatide, McDonnell, Topcu, Lee in tier two). Martos over Keeley is probably the only improvement and he's not having a good game at all. Really struggling to spray the ball with the pitch in rag order again.
Ngl when I watched both matches in the first round I sort of feared this might happened. Even though we were clearly better against Scotland we let ALOT of chances go whereas by contrast Wales should have lost to NI but ofcourse like today got themselves a very fortuitous goal towards the end to nab a draw. It appeared all set up for Ireland to dominate but Wales to cling on or maybe even lead with another poxy goal but for it to go like this I never ever would have seen coming.
And Noonan is on, gets 1 v 1 with the keeper and ofcourse we dont score. Story of the game, and you know Wales will get a similar chance and finish it...
Ireland score a penalty from the spot. Nothing less than we deserve, the fact Wales are even in the game never mind 2-0 up was an absolute farce.
Ireland secure another penalty but miss. However we score a minute later and its 2-2!!!
The footballing gods must have looked down and seen how much of an utter farce the 1st half was and have now restored my faith in the game!
Ireland secure another penalty but miss. However we score a minute later and its 2-2!!!
The footballing gods must have looked down and seen how much of an utter farce the 1st half was and have now restored my faith in the game!
Ireland score a penalty in the last kick of the game to win the game 3-2 and secure the cup!
Nothing less than we deserve, no question the better side has won and nuts of steel to come from 2-0 down!!!!
ifk101
09/11/2023, 7:02 AM
Feels for the Welsh kid that gave the penalty away at the end. Wales can’t have complaints about the result, but that was cruel.
Just out of interest, but are those squads the strongest Scotland, Wales and the North can put out? Quite a quality gap between us and the rest if so.
Feels for the Welsh kid that gave the penalty away at the end. Wales can’t have complaints about the result, but that was cruel.
Just out of interest, but are those squads the strongest Scotland, Wales and the North can put out? Quite a quality gap between us and the rest if so.
I don’t see why they wouldn’t as their u17s haven’t played for awhile, wales play u17s next week so maybe them but that’s at a push.
tetsujin1979
09/11/2023, 9:35 AM
Scotland's u17s went out in the qualifying round for next year's U17 European Championship a month ago, after losing to Belarus and Turkey, so there could be a dip in quality for Scotland in that generation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_UEFA_European_Under-17_Championship_qualification#Group_7
Scotland's u17s went out in the qualifying round for next year's U17 European Championship a month ago, after losing to Belarus and Turkey, so there could be a dip in quality for Scotland in that generation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_UEFA_European_Under-17_Championship_qualification#Group_7
It could be. But overall it's quite clear over the last 4-5 years that Ireland have clearly been the best nation at underage level across all major age groups at underage level from the nations in this tournament, u17-u21s, bar possibly the odd anomaly here or there. It's only a matter of time before this is reflected at senior level as well. Just like it was only a matter of time our demise over the last few years was going to be felt after developing new to nothing from the 1993-1997 age groups.
ifk101
09/11/2023, 10:01 AM
Sure, we’re producing better players relative to Scotland, Wales, and the North – but how high is that comparison benchmark? Wonder should we do an England, i.e., withdraw from the Victory Shield and concentrate resources on playing against different football styles/ higher quality opposition. Whatever about Scotland, we have already more outright wins of the tournament than Wales and the North despite only joining in 2015. Is there real value, in terms of player development, in having annual matches against this opposition level? This is not to knock the tournament – the games are enjoyable to watch and the players clearly enjoy taking part, just more in terms of maximising our limited resources for longer term benefit.
Sure, we’re producing better players relative to Scotland, Wales, and the North – but how high is that comparison benchmark? Wonder should we do an England, i.e., withdraw from the Victory Shield and concentrate resources on playing against different football styles/ higher quality opposition. Whatever about Scotland, we have already more outright wins of the tournament than Wales and the North despite only joining in 2015. Is there real value, in terms of player development, in having annual matches against this opposition level? This is not to knock the tournament – the games are enjoyable to watch and the players clearly enjoy taking part, just more in terms of maximising our limited resources for longer term benefit.
Considering where we have been the last few years if we can get back to being the best home nation first and foremost, which I believe will happen it’s only a matter of when, that would be a good first bridge to cross at the very least granted like you said it’s questionable how high a bar that is.
I do agree though that it’s not the best opposition in terms of quality or style and in fact I’d say the competitions the u16s & u15s won at the end of last season were better for player development.
Either way we do have a rivalry with these nations, we have an opportunity to look at more players/systems and the players get a nice little trophy in their back pocket so it’s not all bad. They’ll have at least another 2 or 3 competitors this year and who knows some might jump up to the u17s like last year so overall the players will have enough opportunities for development this season.
And to answer you’re question of doing what England did, leave the tournament, I would say if we keep winning the tournament and our results at the higher levels such as u17/u19/u21 keep at a high level I’d say keep it but if the results dip maybe we have to look at what we are doing at u16/u15 which may include having a close look at this tournament.
When you look at it though our victory shield winners from 2016 got to the QF’s of the euros in 2018 at u17 level and a good portion of these players played a key role at u17 level in the 2017 QF’s. The group that won the VS last year played a key role at the u17 euros last summer getting a QF in the likes of Melia and Orazi, it remains to be seen if as a u17 group they’ll replicate it this time around.
Ironically the one age group that didn’t play in the tournament, 2005 group, are the only group to not make a u17 euros granted that just might be an anomaly!
To answer you’re question I think for now I don’t see any reason in leaving the tournament.
HT and it's 1-1 at the break.
It amazes me for a side that has been so on top in all 3 games that we've had no luck whatsoever. Create numerous chances and either they go miraculously wide of the keeper has a stormers but then at the other end literally any time we've conceded a goalscoring opportunity its gone in...
seanfhear
11/11/2023, 10:57 AM
HT and it's 1-1 at the break.
It amazes me for a side that has been so on top in all 3 games that we've had no luck whatsoever. Create numerous chances and either they go miraculously wide of the keeper has a stormers but then at the other end literally any time we've conceded a goalscoring opportunity its gone in...
Maybe some sort of Irish quantum mechanics (wink)
Ireland retake the lead (Republic that is).
1-2 Michael Noonan.
tetsujin1979
11/11/2023, 11:35 AM
Live stream on YouTube
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Ireland retake the lead (Republic that is).
1-2 Michael Noonan.
Ireland score a 3rd to wrap it up!
1-3 to Ireland.
tetsujin1979
22/01/2024, 11:18 AM
Live stream of U16s v Turkey
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tetsujin1979
26/01/2024, 4:12 PM
All the goals from the 6-0 win against Greece earlier
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tetsujin1979
04/05/2024, 4:54 PM
U16 player Grady McDonnell made his senior debut for Vancouver FC in Canada last night
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liamoo11
04/05/2024, 6:29 PM
U16 player Grady McDonnell made his senior debut for Vancouver FC in Canada last night
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This lad has shown serious commitment over the last 2 seasons with the amount of times he seems to have been involved in squads for us. What's the family connection does anyone know?
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