Jayson Molumby M West Brom b.1999

[Razors left peg]

Going back to Millwall.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/jayson-molumby-set-to-team-up-with-u21-team-mate-troy-parrott-at-millwall-39551387.html

Disappointing as I thought he was good enough for the Premiership now..

Its a good move for him, he's still only 21 so playing in Championship is ok. Millwall fans love him and they might make a push for playoffs if Parrott is scoring goals.

[Trequartista20]

A sensible move for all concerned, you would have thought. I was looking through Brighton's first-team squad the other day and they've got so many midfield options, even taking into account Stephens' departure, that it would of been very difficult to see Molumby getting any more than the odd cup game.

Let's just hope he brings his pre-shutdown form. He lost a bit of momentum after the restart.

[tommy_c12000]

Good move. The boy has a sensible head. He’s not ready for premiership yet. Millwall are going well, hopefully he can slot quickly into their midfield.

[DeLorean]

Disappointing he couldn't break into the Brighton picture but a sensible decision. It does kind of show how far some of these lads have to come to reach anywhere near the consistent level of somebody like James McCarthy, who's been labelled 'much of a muchness' by some versus our other midfield options. McCarthy was playing regular PL football at 19 and has remained there ever since despite some major setbacks. Molumby obviously had a setback of his own but at 21, if he's as a good a we're hoping he'll be, it's a bit disappointing he can't break into a squad as average as Brighton's. Then again, maybe it's just poor judgement from Potter.

[jbyrne]

Disappointing he couldn't break into the Brighton picture but a sensible decision. It does kind of show how far some of these lads have to come to reach anywhere near the consistent level of somebody like James McCarthy, who's been labelled 'much of a muchness' by some versus our other midfield options. McCarthy was playing regular PL football at 19 and has remained there ever since despite some major setbacks.

McCarthy was singled out, along with MacArthur, as to being central to Palaces win at Utd last weekend on MOTD2. His pressure of the Utd. players and ability to track back so well was highlighted.
He has been up and down for us but that simply reinforces my view that we don't seem to get the best out of our players consistently.

[irishfan86]

Has McCarthy been up and down for us or has he been surrounded by lesser players and overstretched? MacArthur is a very solid player and the two players have spent the bulk of their career playing together. It boggles my mind that some on here consider to suggest he's much of a muchness.

I think the let down for some people is that they expect to see him doing more going forward. I'd like to see that too, but he does such a good job as a holding midfielder, if that's all he does that's fantastic. As I've described -- in terms his biggest fans wouldn't appreciate -- a deluxe version of Glenn Whelan.

My assessment is that some want him to be a version of Roy Keane or Gerrard, winning the ball then driving the team forward. He might have had potential to be that guy at one point but I don't see that now. He's an excellent holding midfielder, but whether through his own limitations or those imposed on him by his managers, doesn't show as much ambition driving forward.

[Stuttgart88]

Well, I’m often underwhelmed by McCarthy and that’s not my expectation of him at all. I just think he looks more confident, assertive and comfortable at club level. Of course it helps that he has such a good understanding with McArthur and, let’s face it, generally better players ahead of him, but it’s just that his general impact always seems greater for his club. Like I always say, Trap was probably right about him being “shy” (on the pitch). But in fairness, he has been out so long I have probably forgotten his better moments for us. And I certainly haven’t forgotten Lille.

[youngirish]

This seems to indicate that the loan to Millwall is not as far along as the initial article suggested:

https://www.newsatden.co.uk/76840-76840/

Stephens transfer to Burnley has more or less being confirmed now.

Surely he will get a few games at Brighton this season considering:

- Propper's lack of form at the end of last season. I also wouldn't be surprised if he was sold before
the current or January transfer window ends.

- Bissouma's current suspension and the likelihood with his aggressive playing style that he will pick
up more suspensions during the season.

- Lallana's injury record and the fact he looks past his best (though I admit this remains to be seen).

- Alzate still being unproven over a long period at this level. Considering his inexperience the
conventional wisdom would suggest he will have a bad spell and need a break from the first team.

[Trequartista20]

Will Jayson Molumby now face Manchester United?

https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/18744060.will-jayson-molumby-now-face-manchester-united/

[youngirish]

Will Jayson Molumby now face Manchester United?

https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/18744060.will-jayson-molumby-now-face-manchester-united/

A very difficult start to your Premiership career if that's the case. Up against Pogba and Fernandes. Surely a bit more experience is needed for this game in midfield than Molumby and Alzate?

On the plus side if it is true it shows a complete turnaround regarding Potter's attitude regarding Molumby over the past week or so. From not even making the match day squads to possibly starting against one of the top four teams in the league.

[Trequartista20]

A difficult ask of Molumby for sure, if that is Potter's intention.

Reminiscent of Farke playing Idah up front on his own at Old Trafford last season.

[NeverFeltBetter]

I dunno. United's midfield was rubbish last weekend, so it could be a good time to play them.

[tommy_c12000]

Alzate and Lallana in Brighton’s midfield..... think we will be seeing Jayson before the end. No Propper on bench.

[tommy_c12000]

Gross on ahead of him...

[Eirambler]

He's in danger of falling into the middle ground between not been highly enough rated yet to get game time but not being far enough down the pecking order to be allowed to go on loan. Hopefully he gets first team football soon one way or the other.

[tommy_c12000]

I’d favor championship loan at this stage, another 40 plus senior games this season would be fantastic

[Trequartista20]

Considering he was an unused sub today, it's strange that Molumby didn't even make the matchday squad for the PNE game.

Apparently it was 'precautionary' with today's match in mind. I can only conclude that Potter's incredibly risk-averse.

[youngirish]

Starting against United tonight in the cup. Hopefully puts in a good shift. I've high hopes for this man.

[paul_oshea]

Dier is about

[DeLorean]

Great test for him, hopefully not too big a test. Risk of being out numbered in there with the way United are set up, two combative midfielders in Fred and McTominay, with Van der Beek and Mata likely to drop into central areas too.

[Razors left peg]

Hes doing OK in 1st half. Nice and tidy on the ball and looks to keep possession, bar one long ball he tried over the top that was too long. Pretty much a non event of a game though

[DeLorean]

Molumby really grew into that first half. United dominated possession for first twenty or so, he saw little of the ball but held his position and United created pretty little. Since though, he has got on the ball more, very confident receiving it in tight spots and has played some lovely crisp passes. McTominay has given United the lead though with a header from a set piece just before half time.

[Trequartista20]

Holding his own this far.

Certainly doesn't appear to be out of his depth.

[Eirambler]

Subbed off after the third goal. Played well though I thought.

It's decision time now as to whether they keep him or let him go for the season.

[Razors left peg]

Subbed off after the third goal. Played well though I thought.

It's decision time now as to whether they keep him or let him go for the season.

I didn't see the 2nd half. Do you think he was replaced with an eye towards the weekend or that Brighton lost control of midfield?

[DeLorean]

I didn't see the 2nd half. Do you think he was replaced with an eye towards the weekend or that Brighton lost control of midfield?

Brighton dominated the ball in the second half, but United brought on the big guns and the second goal finished it really. Molumby was only replaced by another young midfielder so I don't think it was the wrestle back any control, probably just giving the other guy some game time.

He wasn't as involved as he had been in the latter part of the first half though, bar one good moment when his tenacious work at the edge of the United box almost created an equaliser, but for a fine save from Henderson. Molumby had overrun the ball initially while trying to tee himself up for a shot, but it was an impressive recovery.

[Eirambler]

Yes I think it was just to give 10 minutes to a younger player as the game was over as a contest at that stage. Definitely wouldn't see it as a criticism of the way Molumby played because he played well. But I wouldn't necessarily see it as resting him ahead of a start at the weekend either.

[Olé Olé]

The recovery Del is referring to was awesome. There was about 3 moments when it looked like he had lost the ball and he somehow hacked it out to the corner of the box on the right.

I thought he looked good. A few very good moments but mostly very assured and kept things moving back and sideways and forward when he could. Showed for the ball a lot and rarely if ever lost it.

It was the performance I had hoped he'd give against Finland.

He really does remind me of Roy Keane still. There was one stage where he got past the forwards to chase the united centre backs and in turn Henderson. He's got serious determination. A nice amount of quality.

[elatedscum]

I felt on occasion he was taking the easy option. 9 times out of 10 it was a 3 yard sideways pass. There were definitely moments where a more progression option was on offer but he played it ultra safe.

Maybe that’s him reacting to instructions or whatever, but that’d be my one criticism.

[Olé Olé]

I felt on occasion he was taking the easy option. 9 times out of 10 it was a 3 yard sideways pass. There were definitely moments where a more progression option was on offer but he played it ultra safe.

Maybe that’s him reacting to instructions or whatever, but that’d be my one criticism.
I do agree with you. I like Glenn Whelan but there were hints of Glenn Whelan regressing to his instinct of sideways and backwards passing patterns. I'll take it though. I think he was assured enough to demonstrate to Potter that he's not out of place against PL opposition. Will be interesting to see if Potter thinks that is enough.

[Trequartista20]

I think it reasonably likely that was asked to do a disciplined sitting job in front of the back three and to keep his passing simple, with Gross given a licence to get forward more and be a little more expansive. At least that is how it appeared to me.

I think Molumby had a fine game in the role he was given, keeping the ball moving well and his passing (to which the statistics attest) very accurate.

I was very encouraged by his performance. But I guess you can't please everyone.

[Olé Olé]

I think the tone of the posts has been that everyone has been pleased? Plenty positive aspects picked out and one aspect which I wouldn't think is negative. There's nothing wrong with a balanced assessment.

[Trequartista20]

Fair enough; balance is always good. My point is that Molumby was probably asked to perform a specific role that involved him keeping his passing simple and not giving the ball away in dangerous areas, and did did so with maturity.

[DeLorean]

Fwiw, I thought he took the progressive pass when it was 'obviously' on, might have missed a couple that ES saw. He was looking for the forward pass at times and looked frustrated as he had to resort to the sideways ball due to lack of options. The two times he gave possession away was when he tried to force it actually.

[Olé Olé]

There was a beautifully weighted clip to the back post by Dan Burns which was very nice as well. Didn't quite come off but was close.

[elatedscum]

Fwiw, I thought he took the progressive pass when it was 'obviously' on, might have missed a couple that ES saw. He was looking for the forward pass at times and looked frustrated as he had to resort to the sideways ball due to lack of options. The two times he gave possession away was when he tried to force it actually.

I will say, I only watched from around the 25 minute mark onwards. I did text my little cousin, who is a united fan, when I turned it on, to ask how he was getting on, and got a two word response: “pretty quiet”, so I assumed I hadn’t missed much...

[DeLorean]

I will say, I only watched from around the 25 minute mark onwards. I did text my little cousin, who is a united fan, when I turned it on, to ask how he was getting on, and got a two word response: “pretty quiet”, so I assumed I hadn’t missed much...

No I'd agree with your little cousin, he had really only held his position up until that point, couple of touches at most. United dominated the ball early on.

[youngirish]

I think Molumby looks the best of our young players at present. His movement is very good, he always looks so composed and comfortable on the ball and he puts his foot in when required without giving away free kicks half the time. Connolly still looks very raw in comparison but unfortunately for Molumby Brighton have a number of midfielders fighting for a limited set of positions.

[Diggs246]

Yep he is already a good player. By the time the WC qualifiers start I would be of the view he will be ahead of Conor and arter anyway

[elatedscum]

disappointed to see him not included in the squad at all today, loan might be the best option...

[Trequartista20]

Maybe, but maybe he backs himself to be given a chance somewhere along the line; I really don't think he's too far away. He's good enough, and is obviously well thought of by the Brighton coaching staff, as has been borne out with his new contract.

[Olé Olé]

Maybe, but maybe he backs himself to be given a chance somewhere along the line; I really don't think he's too far away. He's good enough, and is obviously well thought of by the Brighton coaching staff, as has been borne out with his new contract.

Lallana and Gross were picked ahead of him on the bench today which isn't that surprising- good players. As you say, he's not far away. There are four ahead of him in the queue. I think the big issue is that last season Brighton played 3-5-2. They've gone 3-4-3 this season. They're playing 2 centre midfielders instead of 3. Instead of it being 5 into 3, it's 5 into 2.

It is very tight for him but they brought both Gross and Lallana on today. An injury and/or a suspension bumps him up the queue.

I think Alzate is the outstanding player from the 5. I really like the look of him. After that, Lallana has experience and quality and is a different player. If he's going to make it I think Bissouma and Gross are hurdles that he would need to jump.

He has every chance. I'm just not sure whether he needs the laoj or not. He's on the verge I think.

[Trequartista20]

I think that's a pretty good assessment of the situation.

And don't forget, Potter played Molumby as a right-back against Portsmouth, so Potter probably considers him as an option at fullback/wingback, too.

That said, it still wouldn't surprise me if he ended up going on loan again either. I think Molumby's already said he'd seek a loan move if he wasn't definitely in Potter's plans for this season.

[Eirambler]

I can definitely see an argument for him to stick it out for now at Brighton.

Firstly, there is an English domestic transfer window that runs for another two weeks after the international window closes - so they don't need to make a call on it just yet, they can decide in mid October whether he stays or goes on loan.

But even then, because of the unusual season schedule this year, it's not really that long until the January window either. Molumby has just come off a full season of first team football at Millwall so he's in a different position to a lot of our other younger players who desperately need game time. He probably doesn't have too much to lose but potentially a lot to gain by trying for a first team place at Brighton for the rest of 2020. If it works out for him he can become an established premier league player, if it doesn't he will still have his pick of Championship clubs in January.

[elatedscum]

I think he’s good enough to get into the Brighton team, I just haven’t really seen any signs that it’s going to happen...

I’d definitely wait till the tail end of the loan window (I expect that’s exactly what brighton are doing) to see if an injury changes the outlook.

[Exgrad]

Starts for Brighton u23 this afternoon, so obviously not involved this evening with first team.

[Colbert Report]

Made his senior debut for Brighton today, came on at the end against Aston Villa. Hopefully he can make his way into the first team, he looks like a very decent prospect.

[Exgrad]

Made is senior debut for Brighton today, came on at the end against Aston Villa. Hopefully he can make his way into the first team, he looks like a very decent prospect.

His league debut? Hes played a few cup matches, against United in the league cup a few weeks back.

[Colbert Report]

Yeah, his league debut, sorry. The commentator mentioned that it was his senior debut, I don't think people think much of the League Cup nowadays!

[Razors left peg]

Yeah, his league debut, sorry. The commentator mentioned that it was his senior debut, I don't think people think much of the League Cup nowadays!
I actually prefer the League Cup to the FA cup. Games are usually midweek under floodlights with good atmospheres.