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NeverFeltBetter
27/07/2017, 10:16 AM
Cork!? Unless he's going as a coach or something?

bluewhitearmy
27/07/2017, 10:22 AM
I believe robbie is off to Cork. Good enough for the champions elect but not Limerick FC. Go figure.

Ian Turner went to Cork when he left ha did that mean we made a huge mistake not breaking the bank to keep him cos he was good enough for Cork.

LK37oldskool
27/07/2017, 11:13 AM
We're not exactly blessed with decent Defenders at the moment unless you think Dave O Connor is an adequate replacement. I don't think dumping him this late is wise. Now hopefully there will be an awesome replacement but this been Limerick I very much doubt it. Also I believe that Robbie was a far more consistent player than Turner.

fc hammer
27/07/2017, 11:21 AM
Yet another **** up by the club. Not a football brain between them on the board. I wonder who the replacements will be, hopefully not more kids.

bluewhitearmy
27/07/2017, 11:40 AM
I agree with ye all I am totally and utterly shocked that we are dismantling our league and cup winning squad that have done so well in Europe all these years.......oh wait no we are releasing players from a squads that at beat have been mid-table in the premier and are most known for almost but not avoiding relegation. Christ the moaning Jospehines are out in extra force right now.

Very few people appreciate Shaun Kelly and Paul O'Conor as much as me I'm devastated the two lads are going to be leaving. But the reaction to it is the most Limerick thing ever, want things to change but at the same time want everything to stay the exact same while it changes. This squad was in desperate need of a blow up and tbh it probably still needs more out the door. Would I have chosen the same 3 lads exactly no of course not but the attacks on McDonald so early into his time here are laughable when you consider Russell for away with it for so long including a run of 21 without a win and why cos he played pretty football.

sbgawa
27/07/2017, 11:50 AM
reminds me of when Bradley came in at Rovers last year mid season, cleared out a bunch of guys that he didn't want to work with and were bad for the dressing room and played with kids until the end of the season.
He rightly backed them to scrape into Europe and your manager obviously reckons the squad that's left can get the half dozen points or so that will get you out of relegation battle.
What can the board do but back him in his decisions they just appointed him

osarusan
27/07/2017, 12:28 PM
If McDonald has been given license to wield his axe and get rid of players he doesn't want, then the club have to let him do that.

Kelly and Williams wouldn't have been the top names on my list of players to go, but maybe their departure is just a reflection of what players McDonald has lined up to join the club, rather than the order in which he values (or doesn't value) them as players in comparison to others.

Lims4ever
27/07/2017, 1:18 PM
I'll go with the theory " were getting rid of players to cut costs" these 3 players going now makes absolutely no sense do it at the end of the season make sure were safe, If you look at the players we've brought in it hardly screams of there is money there to blow on new signings , the money mc donald and his number 2 are on is probably why some players have to go , didn't pat mention in a speech they needed an average attendance of 1800/2k to make it viable were well below that figure

blueblood
27/07/2017, 1:21 PM
If McDonald has been given license to wield his axe and get rid of players he doesn't want, then the club have to let him do that.

Kelly and Williams wouldn't have been the top names on my list of players to go, but maybe their departure is just a reflection of what players McDonald has lined up to join the club, rather than the order in which he values (or doesn't value) them as players in comparison to others.

Ya I agree, obviously McDonald has replacements lined up, wheather they're better than the lads is another question.

LK37oldskool
27/07/2017, 1:39 PM
The reason we're not getting 1800/2000 for home games is because of the rubbish we have to witness most weeks in the Markets Field. 3 home wins all season will not intice new supporters through the gates. They'll always get the 1200 regardless of how they play, that seems to be our core base these days.

superblues37
27/07/2017, 2:31 PM
hearing now that one or two of the big earners in the squad will leave before next week aswell.......

bluewhitearmy
27/07/2017, 2:39 PM
hearing now that one or two of the big earners in the squad will leave before next week aswell.......

Bar the 3 available to go the only other "big earners" are Brendan Clarke who has a deal for next season Freddy Hall who just signed a new deal Lee J Lynch who wont be leaving and Shane Duggan who I can't see leaving. So who are the ones you heard are leaving?

Lim till i die
27/07/2017, 3:26 PM
I heard that there's no money at all there.

I was talking to a fella on Henry street he told me he met a fella in Jerry Powers with a little Jack Russell dog and that fella told him that his cousin knows a fella that lives in rossa avenue and that fella told him that the club is ****ed. The lease in the Markets Field is up for renewal at the end of this year and the club can't even put together the money for the teabags and custard creams for the renewal meeting. Told me Pat O Sullivan isn't real either, he's a hologram like Tupac at that music festival.

superblues37
27/07/2017, 8:53 PM
either people are burying their heads in the sand or just havent a f*cking clue whats going on in their club but if it wasnt for bray right now we would be talk of the whole country right now because how is an accountant supposed to do his job if there isnt anything to count????

Lim till i die
27/07/2017, 8:58 PM
I've heard all the rumours.

All the money owed around town.

Players not getting paid on time.

Biddle. Biddle. Biddle.

I don't believe there's a problem this time because I think there's a lot of **** acting going on because I think the moneyman and Pat have fallen out.

If I'm wrong whatever. Next year in division one.

But people running around screaming on here taking Pat O Sullivans word as gospel, thinking the club is broke because the manager got rid of a few fellas he didn't fancy etc, etc. What's the point like?? It's Limerick FC. Enjoy it.

Lim till i die
27/07/2017, 8:59 PM
Anyone know the big earners that are leaving next week by the way??

bluewhitearmy
27/07/2017, 9:15 PM
This is about the 6th time no exaggeration in 2 years I'vee heard we are going bust we have nothing etc the time to get worried is when there is any proof to suggest this to be the case. What's the proof atm?

CraftyToePoke
27/07/2017, 9:27 PM
So yer man NMcD moved here from England, (where he wasn't exactly failing in life) to take over here without any guarantees of money available etc and brought in a second in command too very recently. And he is now having to release his experienced pro's , and there's not a pot to **** in, but he is still here, with not a word out of him, beavering away.

That's the score is it ?

Fair play to him.

Ballistinianlad
27/07/2017, 9:37 PM
At least we are not being compared to North Korea

da bishop
27/07/2017, 10:31 PM
Some of the dirty linen getting washed....GOOD MAN YOURSELF NEIL.Some of our FULLTIME pro,s might do well to heed what is happening and act accordingly,maybe then the club,its chairman and the fans will get value for money because lets face a certain group of players have been..er...taking the ****.

LK37oldskool
28/07/2017, 10:19 AM
Mcdonald on live95 said the players were not in his long term plans and wouldn't have been offered a new contract. He's working on bringing in replacements.

kingpin4
28/07/2017, 11:23 AM
Mcdonald on live95 said the players were not in his long term plans and wouldn't have been offered a new contract. He's working on bringing in replacements.

I could understand them not being offered new contracts for whatever reason(s)... but sounded like he didn't really have anyone else lined up to bring in straight away. Surely the logical thing is wait until the end of the season and have them there as back up if needed if you don't have replacements ready to go.
As it stands, we'll probably be heading to Derry without the 3 of them in the squad, wouldn't be too hopeful of a result up there

LK37oldskool
28/07/2017, 11:36 AM
Not a chance of coming away from Derry with anything.

Ballistinianlad
28/07/2017, 12:32 PM
Williams gone

Lims4ever
28/07/2017, 12:53 PM
I know football is ruthless anyway but still leaves a sour taste the way he has been treated great servant always gave his all anytime he was on the field, should have at least been given the dignity of seeing out the season , a fit Robbie Williams is as good as what's out there he is streets ahead of whitehead

bluewhitearmy
28/07/2017, 1:15 PM
Not a chance of coming away from Derry with anything.

As opposed to the 6 points we were gonna take from the next two games before the lads were let go is it.

bluewhitearmy
28/07/2017, 1:17 PM
Football player not wanted by football club released oh the horror won't somebody think of the children

Lim till i die
28/07/2017, 1:23 PM
After Robbie Williams is announced for cork this evening he will immediately become the greatest Limerick player of all time.

LK37oldskool
28/07/2017, 1:42 PM
As opposed to the 6 points we were gonna take from the next two games before the lads were let go is it.

We got a point away to them already. I never mentioned anything about us getting 6 points in the next few games. I believe our chances would have been better with them in the side.

bluewhitearmy
28/07/2017, 1:50 PM
We got a point away to them already. I never mentioned anything about us getting 6 points in the next few games. I believe our chances would have been better with them in the side.

Based on his recent rock solid performance in Galway I assume. You would swear the team was excellent with him in it we have been awful as a team and awful defensively all season and guess what Paolo Malwilliams was in the team all along.

I'm not saying he isn't a good player but dear god its not like we have been keeping clean sheet after clean sheet all season with him.

Ballistinianlad
28/07/2017, 1:54 PM
I think the biggest losers in this are his local watering holes and bookies.
Seriously though, we do need a few new bodies in the door. When's the window actually close.

Ballistinianlad
28/07/2017, 1:55 PM
Based on his recent rock solid performance in Galway I assume. You would swear the team was excellent with him in it we have been awful as a team and awful defensively all season and guess what Paolo Malwilliams was in the team all along.

I'm not saying he isn't a good player but dear god its not like we have been keeping clean sheet after clean sheet all season with him.

Someone actually wrote somewhere that without him we will "leak goals like a sieve". Hahaha.

Lim till i die
28/07/2017, 1:59 PM
Irish window is closed Monday.

I think we'll dribble to the end of the season with whatever's there, finish 8th or 9th then next year we get to judge McDonald.

LK37oldskool
28/07/2017, 2:01 PM
Look. I'm not disagreeing with you about our poor defence but as it stands we have no experienced Defenders. I don't rate DOC as a footballer. We've just exposed our weakness more is all.

Jofspring
28/07/2017, 2:07 PM
After Robbie Williams is announced for cork this evening he will immediately become the greatest Limerick player of all time.

JC will sort him out. Will have him back playing over in England by the end of the season.

Lim till i die
28/07/2017, 2:23 PM
Robbie is actually a very sharp signing out of cork!

If he's annoyed enough with Limerick to try then they have one of the best centre half's in the league.

Even as is he's a better player than alan ****in bennett.

Regardless of what happens in cork it doesn't mean the decision to release him from Limerick wasn't correct.

kingpin4
28/07/2017, 3:01 PM
As opposed to the 6 points we were gonna take from the next two games before the lads were let go is it.
I'd be more worried about the mental affect this has on the players. In a mentally strong group, it could galvanise players but a mentally weak group could fall apart after losing 3 popular members of the team. I hope we're the former.
You don't want lads getting humiliated in the next few games, I've had my fill of reading stuff on the facebook page in the last 2 days without wanting to see them hammered by fans for losing.

bluewhitearmy
28/07/2017, 3:34 PM
I'd be more worried about the mental affect this has on the players. In a mentally strong group, it could galvanise players but a mentally weak group could fall apart after losing 3 popular members of the team. I hope we're the former.
You don't want lads getting humiliated in the next few games, I've had my fill of reading stuff on the facebook page in the last 2 days without wanting to see them hammered by fans for losing.

Anyone that expected anything from the next two before anyone was let go hasn't a clue anyway. We just have a set of fans where everything has to be the end of the world. Like no denying Robbie is our best defender but some of the talk online about him going on here and social media is just sad.

kingpin4
28/07/2017, 3:38 PM
Anyone that expected anything from the next two before anyone was let go hasn't a clue anyway. We just have a set of fans where everything has to be the end of the world. Like no denying Robbie is our best defender but some of the talk online about him going on here and social media is just sad.

I agree with you to a point (a point up in Derry wouldn't be beyond us), but I can see it from that point of view too. He was by no means, our worst defender. And to be announced as a footnote underneath a younger player (with less ability) getting an extension is what caused a lot of the outpouring.
I heard it annoyed a few of the longer serving players too, that they thought it should have been handled with a little bit more respect... but players will always stick together anyway.

Lim till i die
28/07/2017, 3:54 PM
What longer serving players did you hear about??

Only long serving players left I can think of are Freddie Lee Jay and Duggan

Freddie obviously doesn't give a damn signed an extension the same day.

I sincerely doubt Lee Jay gives a damn

And if Duggan gives a damn I'd suggest he'd be well served using that pent up anger to put in a couple of performances.

Biddle. Biddle. Biddle.

kingpin4
28/07/2017, 4:02 PM
What longer serving players did you hear about??

Only long serving players left I can think of are Freddie Lee Jay and Duggan

Freddie obviously doesn't give a damn signed an extension the same day.

I sincerely doubt Lee Jay gives a damn

And if Duggan gives a damn I'd suggest he'd be well served using that pent up anger to put in a couple of performances.

Biddle. Biddle. Biddle.
Didn't mean that as in longer serving than them. and I wasn't told names. it's all rumours and stories, but there's going to be an element of truth to it no matter how small the element is.

CraftyToePoke
28/07/2017, 4:50 PM
but there's going to be an element of truth to it no matter how small the element is.

I don't know about that, there's an element on here and elsewhere who only turn up with bad news, most of which turns out to be complete myth most of the time.

If Williams does turn up a stone lighter in his new Cork shirt it shows there was a problem anyway.

People wanted change, change came and lo and behold the changes are now wrong wrong wrong too. Great 'support', and most vocal at turbulent times or when there is an angle to spread bad news, even if they have to make it up. The sky is falling down the sky is falling down chicken licken.

All that said, NMcD now needs his incoming players to improve the side, he has rolled some big dice here. But lets see what he does, he knows better than anyone his next moves need to be good ones.

NeverFeltBetter
29/07/2017, 8:05 AM
Handy league medal for Williams anyway. Talk about a step up.

kingpin4
31/07/2017, 2:49 PM
Can players still be signed outside of the window? as in if players without contracts from the UK were available, is there a deadline on any of them signing or registering to play?

Jofspring
31/07/2017, 3:19 PM
Can players still be signed outside of the window? as in if players without contracts from the UK were available, is there a deadline on any of them signing or registering to play?

Ya I would think so. The transfer window is just that, a transfer window. Players out of contract wouldn't need a transfer.

CraftyToePoke
31/07/2017, 3:29 PM
August 1st - August 31st : All out of work professionals can sign for League Of Ireland clubs, including any professional whose contract was cancelled on or before July 31st

So, that's the straw I'm grasping at anyway lads, that the window we are looking in is in fact just about to open :)

Jofspring
31/07/2017, 4:17 PM
If Shaun Kelly and Paul O Connor aren't released by today it would mean they are staying so.

bluewhitearmy
31/07/2017, 4:29 PM
So, that's the straw I'm grasping at anyway lads, that the window we are looking it is in fact just about to open :)

Can't imagine anyone not picked up anywhere by the middle of August is gonna be anything worth getting excited for.

CraftyToePoke
31/07/2017, 4:38 PM
Yeah, fair point, but its still July & NMcD does seem to be sitting tight happy enough that he can improve our side from what will be available, like I said before, we are in a line, experienced UK pros became experienced UK pros because they secure UK contracts, none of then grew up dreaming of playing for Limerick F.C. or even heard of us maybe. I agree we are regressing on the field and it's high risk from him, if he doesn't secure his targets it could get very messy.

Its either that or we really are skint to f*ck :)

Jofspring
31/07/2017, 10:12 PM
Paul and Shaun confirmed as gone. Paul likely to Pats. Kelly has retired from full time football but is going to stay living in Limerick and work here.