Republic of Ireland v Austria - Sunday 11th June 2017 - World Cup 2018 Qualifier

[Olé Olé]

Definitely heard it in the corner of the west stand at the away end of the ground. Painful. It wasn't as bad as the away end in Vienna and petered out, thankfully.

It's a pity that we can't come up with something better to demonstrate our love for James.

[DeLorean]

There is no shortage of idiots amongst 'the best supporters in the world'.

[jbyrne]

There is no shortage of idiots amongst 'the best supporters in the world'.

you'll hear the same idiots refer to Northern Ireland as "the pub team". cringeworthy given what they have achieved over the last few years

[OwlsFan]

I was in the corner behind the goals that Walters scored into the last day, not directly behind the goal. Didn't notice anything.

My season ticket is just to the left of the "singing section" and perhaps it was not as prevalent as I thought but a lot were singing it around me. Since your ticket appears to be in the corner and you couldn't hear it, then perhaps it's just a localised outbreak and not an epidemic.

[DeLorean]

O'Neill & McClean could face suspensions for the Georgia match due to their comments about the referee - http://www.the42.ie/james-mcclean-martin-oneill-ban-3455330-Jun2017/

O'Neill was critical but discussed the incidents mainly I think. I don't think we were nearly as hard done by as he did but surely he's entitled to give his view on the major decisions. McClean's comment was silly but in the heat of the moment I guess. Maybe avoid interviewing our players straight after the game if this might be the outcome.

[jbyrne]

O'Neill was critical but discussed the incidents mainly I think. I don't think we were nearly as hard done by as he did but surely he's entitled to give his view on the major decisions.

I think o'neill did say that the refs performance was poor all game.

[DeLorean]

Possibly, I wouldn't have a major problem with that. He dealt with the issues and how he felt the referee left a lot go prior to Duffy's disallowed goal. Presumably he's still guilty but I don't even know the charge or the specific rule he's broken.

McClean basically accused him of deliberately favouring one team, much more difficult to defend that.

There's a significant different between implying the referee was crap compared to implying he's a cheat. :)

[Diggs246]

not to mention that Duffy lead with his arm and the ref got it right

[DeLorean]

I agree. Maybe Walters should have had a penalty though, not sure about that one to be honest.

[Stuttgart88]

not to mention that Duffy lead with his arm and the ref got it rightI agree and we can't complain: how Walters got away with similar on Fabianski last campaign, just before Long's equaliser remains a very pleasant mystery to me.

[CraftyToePoke]

not to mention that Duffy lead with his arm and the ref got it right

Yeah, if that was the other way round and our player was put in the net we would be all upset were it given. The best that player was going to manage was a weak header, as he was already pressured, Duffy probably would probably have mopped up a handy finish if he stood off but its easy to say, when a winner for Ireland is there to be had in such a game the adrenaline must be huge.

[DeLorean]

I'm still frustrated with Duffy to be honest, he only needed to make his presence felt fairly or leave it to Walters. He made it an easy decision for the referee. I was never worried about his rashness costing us in the opposition's penalty box!

We were lucky enough that the Walters goal stood too, many a referee would have given a free out there also.

[jbyrne]

I'm still frustrated with Duffy to be honest, he only needed to make his presence felt fairly or leave it to Walters. He made it an easy decision for the referee. I was never worried about his rashness costing us in the opposition's penalty box!


I guarantee you that the slightest little touch from duffy in that circumstance would have resulted in a free out.

[DeLorean]

Quite possible to be fair, but at least then the grievances would be justified.

[CraftyToePoke]

We were lucky enough that the Walters goal stood too, many a referee would have given a free out there also.

This is it, how many times do you see a ref blow up when a forward has a defender cornered on the side line or end line, for the slightest, touch letting the defender out of jail. To let that shunt from Walters go while they were bearing down on goal in the middle of the pitch with the defender being the last man was odds against, to state it mildly :)

[Flexy]

FIFA are a bunch of clueless corrupt clowns. They open disciplinary proceedings for a manager and player giving their honest opinions on a refs inept performance. What about FIFA and their decision to appoint a country which only has one airport a country with 1 qualifying stadium and a country that's conditions are unacceptable to host the world's biggest tournament. Oh yes Qatar in 2022 bought fraudulently instead of it going to Australia or America. Bloody money grabbers

[MeathDrog]

How about the players and managers stop whinging after the game and own up to their own poor performances? Just a thought.

[Charlie Darwin]

I agree. Own up to your performance and focus on complaining about Qatar instead.

[CraftyToePoke]

How about the players and managers stop whinging after the game and own up to their own poor performances? Just a thought.

There was a strong whiff of deflection in it yes, particularly MONs contribution. A player will be still in the heat of it and less objective.

[DannyInvincible]

Video here of an RTÉ panel made up of Damien Duff, Didi Hamann and Richard Sadlier discussing possible punishment for O'Neill and McClean after their post-Austria match comments: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/0621/884561-rte-panel/

[MeathDrog]

There was a strong whiff of deflection in it yes, particularly MONs contribution. A player will be still in the heat of it and less objective.
It was more than a whiff. It was MON completely deflecting from the fact he had a mare.

[CraftyToePoke]

It was more than a whiff. It was MON completely deflecting from the fact he had a mare.

I had said a strong whiff. I was actually agreeing with you. Do you manage a shave without falling out with yourself tell me ?

[mark12345]

There was a strong whiff of deflection in it yes, particularly MONs contribution. A player will be still in the heat of it and less objective.

Deflection on O'Neill's part - absolutely. Of all the poor performers on the day, including Whelan and Hendrick, O'Neill's was the worst. With his team selection he took two points which belonged to us and threw them down the drain.

[MeathDrog]

I had said a strong whiff. I was actually agreeing with you. Do you manage a shave without falling out with yourself tell me ?
Erm, I wasn't disagreeing with you..

[OwlsFan]

Erm, I wasn't disagreeing with you..

Briefly OT, MeathDrog, what is the highest ranked football side in Meath (seeing you supporting the Drogs got me wondering) ? Have any ever come close to LoI ?

[MeathDrog]

Briefly OT, MeathDrog, what is the highest ranked football side in Meath (seeing you supporting the Drogs got me wondering) ? Have any ever come close to LoI ?
The highest ranked in Meath would be teams in the local North Eastern Football League, of which Navan Cosmos would be the pick of at the moment.

Parkvilla FC are a Navan based team who play in the LSL. Traditionally they would have been seen as the highest ranked team in the county, getting to the FAI Cup proper on a few occasions but they have been on the decline in recent years.

There was an attempt a few years ago to enter a team into the new U17 LOI (think it was called Royal Meath FC) but that fell by the wayside. Honestly, the appetite isn't there for a LOI team in the county. Many in the county support Drogheda and more recently Dundalk. In fact, Drogheda United would pull in a sizeable ratio of their fans from Meath from areas like Slane, Navan, Duleek, Stamullen and even Balbriggan in Dublin.

Soccer has made huge strides over the past few decades but Meath is still traditionally a GAA county. Any attempt to set up a LOI side would end badly IMO.

[DannyInvincible]

Emmet Malone reckons that recent cases of similar nature suggest O'Neill and McClean are far more likely to receive fines than bans over their comments in relation to the Austria game ref: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/james-mcclean-and-martin-o-neill-to-face-fines-for-referee-criticism-1.3127722


Both could potentially have suspensions imposed but in light of recent decisions relating to offences it seems highly unlikely. After the game between Slovakia and England, the Slovakian defender Jan Durica suggested in a post match interview that the sending off of his team mate Martin Skrtel had been part of a Fifa conspiracy to help England get to the World Cup at the expense of his country. But he received only a small fine.

“There is only one place at the World Cup,” he said immediately after the game. “Why should Slovakia go there, when we have England in the group? Of course, they will always prefer stronger team. Probably the referee exactly knew how to do it.”

Fifa reaction was to impose a fine of €5,000 while Iran coach Carlos Queiroz was let away with just a warning after he criticised match officials in the wake of his side’s game against Uzbekistan last October.

Malone further points out that FIFA take on-field dissent and physical displays of disrespect for the officials far more seriously than they take comments in post-match interviews.

[DeLorean]

Dan McDonnell applied the same logic - http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/world-cup/no-reason-for-james-mcclean-or-martin-oneill-to-be-alarmed-by-fifa-probe-35853683.html

[tetsujin1979]

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