Mexico v Republic of Ireland - Met Life Stadium NJ - Friday, 2nd June 2017 - Friendly

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

That's a bit disingenuous, Jack Byrne was called up to train with them last year at the age of 19 and Alan Browne also last year at the age of 20, although Browne missed out through injury.

Byrne was playing in the Dutch top flight for almost a full season and Browne had a hundred odd senior games, including Championship level. IMO there is no comparison.

[DeLorean]

In fairness to TOWK I wouldn't call up anyone from Roscommon. End of.

I hear Chris O'Dowd is a decent goalie if we're stuck.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Matt Doherty and Derrick Williams have won POTY awards. Williams hasn't been called up and Doherty hasn't even made a revised squad yet.

Playing one minute of Premier League football is not adequate though. I used the Harriman, Grego-Cox and Toner examples. He needs the transition to U-21 level and semi-regular senior football - if this is truly a footballing decision.

In fairness, those lads you mentioned all had plenty of senior football and Rice doesn't.

I can't prove it but they go to one, two games max a week and I have never heard them taking in West Ham U-21's though; and I don't think they should be taking cues, or leaps of faith, from an U-19 coach.

Difficult to quote on phone. Apologies.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Has O'Neill ever flat out stated or implied that lads like Boyle, Horgan and Maguire need to move to England to be truly considered?

It's hard to reconcile that with the fact he's willing to call up someone on the back of one minute of Premier League football.

[tetsujin1979]

Matt Doherty and Derrick Williams have won POTY awards. Williams hasn't been called up and Doherty hasn't even made a revised squad yet.Doherty's been injured since the end of April, didn't play Wolves' last three games. Williams was relegated with Blackburn, hardly deserving of a call up


Playing one minute of Premier League football is not adequate though. I used the Harriman, Grego-Cox and Toner examples. He needs the transition to U-21 level and semi-regular senior football - if this is truly a footballing decision.Nobody is saying a minute of Premier League football is enough.


In fairness, those lads you mentioned all had plenty of senior football and Rice doesn't.Lawlor hadn't played senior football when he was called up, Cunningham hadn't made his senior debut when he was first called up, Duffy had played three games when first called up


I can't prove it but they go to one, two games max a week and I have never heard them taking in West Ham U-21's though; and I don't think they should be taking cues, or leaps of faith, from an U-19 coach.If you've no proof, then don't post it. Why wouldn't they listen to the U19 coach?


Has O'Neill ever flat out stated or implied that lads like Boyle, Horgan and Maguire need to move to England to be truly considered?Horgan was first called up before he moved to England


It's hard to reconcile that with the fact he's willing to call up someone on the back of one minute of Premier League football.It really isn't, like I said, players have been called into the international squad before playing senior football for their club

[backstothewall]

Norman Whiteside made his debut in a World Cup for the north with only 3 appearances for his club. All that has happened here is that a kid has been called up to train with the seniors for a (slightly) glorified post-season B international.

He's been doing well for his club and our U21s. It all seems terribly sensible to me.

[gastric]

In MONROY we trust. I am sure the know what they are doing and long may they continue to surprise. I like this move. There is no room for complacency. I remember when a certain Steve Staunton and Jim Beglin were parachuted in. Turns out the manager knew what he was doing.

[Stuttgart88]

Damn you Gastric! I was just about to post I didn't hear any complaints when Staunton was called up for Euro 88. There weren't many Irish Times articles bemoaning lack of top flight players then either. I suppose there was no social media though.

[Closed Account]

EIR sports advertised coverage of both these games during Europa league final.

[geysir]

Damn you Gastric! I was just about to post I didn't hear any complaints when Staunton was called up for Euro 88. There weren't many Irish Times articles bemoaning lack of top flight players then either. I suppose there was no social media though.
The reason why there were no complaints about young Stan being called up for Euro 88, is simply because he wasn't called up for Euro 88.
Otherwise point well taken :)

[DannyInvincible]

Some video footage from the training camp: https://www.facebook.com/sseairtricityleague/videos/10155256591063286/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

[DeLorean]

EIR sports advertised coverage of both these games during Europa league final.

Can you remember if they specified 'live' coverage for the Mexico game? On their programme planner they only have it down for 08:00 on Friday morning and again for 21:30 that night.

https://www.eirsport.ie/tv-guides

[tetsujin1979]

live-footballontv have it listed as being broadcast live at 1am on Premier Sports: http://www.live-footballontv.com/

[Closed Account]

Kevin Long is a good strong boy
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/a-good-strong-boy-roy-keane-confident-kevin-long-will-take-chance-1.3096192

James McClean and three of the squad’s more established goalkeepers will join up with the 17 players who training at Fota island on Thursday morning ahead of Monday’s flight to New Jersey where Ireland will play Mexico next Thursday evening.

About Kevin Long specifically


“I’ve seen him a couple of times. He’s a good strong boy. Obviously, he’s not a kid and I’m sure if he gets a chance in Mexico he’ll take it. And that’s what happens in football sometimes. Sometimes fellas come into the squad at 18 or 19 years of age whether it’s a Robbie Keane (http://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_person=Robbie%20Keane&article=true) or a Brady and then other lads come in a bit later in their career and that’s fine also.
“As I’ve said, we don’t have the biggest pool of players so if lads are playing, particularly at Premier league level, then obviously they are going to be considered.”

[KK77]

Anyone know if the Mexico match is being screened live please?

[DeLorean]

Anyone know if the Mexico match is being screened live please?

See two posts above your own ^^

[Charlie Darwin]

Shame Westwood isn't travelling. Would have liked to see what a good strong boy and a good catholic boy could get up toin the Shtates.

[Closed Account]

With no left backs in the squad, it may be an opportunity to go Antonio Conté/Celtic O'Neill

http://i.imgur.com/JwPC6KK.png

[tetsujin1979]

live-footballontv have it listed as being broadcast live at 1am on Premier Sports: http://www.live-footballontv.com/

confirmed on Premier Sports' website: http://www.premiersports.com/football/republic-of-ireland-friendlies/
1am, guess I'm working from home on Friday week.

[DannyInvincible]

Shame Westwood isn't travelling.

Is there confirmation of the squad that will be travelling to the US anywhere?

Why isn't Westwood travelling? Didn't O'Neill indicate that the team chosen against Uruguay will pretty much be the team to play Austria or did I imagine that? If Westwood isn't travelling to the US, maybe he's going to get a game against Uruguay? Could there be a chance of him starting against Austria?

[DannyInvincible]

I’ve seen [Kevin Long] a couple of times. He’s a good strong boy. Obviously, he’s not a kid and I’m sure if he gets a chance in Mexico he’ll take it.

Roy thinks we're off to Mexico!

[gastric]

Roy thinks we're off to Mexico!

But maybe not with all of the three amigos!

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Fair dues to McClean and Randolph for going to America.

They'll be a good influence on the kids.

[seanfhear]

Roy thinks we're off to Mexico!
I hope he doesn't throw a Wobbly..........................

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Rice leaves squad ahead of Mexico game.

http://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/mnt-trio-called-in-for-mexico-game

[nigel-harps1954]

Looks something like the following. Long at left back for a lack of any other option. 4-4-1-1.


Randolph

Christie Boyle Duffy Long

Horgan Gleeson O'Kane McClean

Hoolahan

Murphy


Subs: Doyle, Pearce, Keogh, Egan, Browne, Hourihane, O'Dowda, McGoldrick

[nigel-harps1954]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/two-ireland-players-involved-in-minor-car-crash-on-way-to-join-squad-791537.html

Shane Duffy and Eunan O'Kane involved in a minor car accident on the way to Ireland camp today. Thankfully both are okay.

[DeLorean]

West Ham United youngster Declan Rice drops out following his first involvement at senior level.

I assume "drops out" means released?

[DeLorean]

live-footballontv have it listed as being broadcast live at 1am on Premier Sports: http://www.live-footballontv.com/

Also confirmed on TV listings for Eir Sport 2 now - http://entertainment.ie/tv/display.asp?channelid=1375&programme=Sport&programme_day=01+June+2017&programme_time=time8&submit=Search


Mexico v Republic of Ireland (Kick-off 1.00am). All the action from the friendly encounter, which takes place at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey.

[DeLorean]

Uruguay squad for friendlies against Republic of Ireland & Italy. - http://www.auf.org.uy/Portal/NEWS/11207/


Reserved vs. Ireland and Italy

The coaching staff of the Uruguayan national team confirmed the list of 25 players reserved for the friendly matches that Uruguay has planned for the first days of June, against Ireland and Italy in Dublin and Nice, respectively.

The players Abel Hernández, with foot neck trauma, in sports rest, and Diego Godín, with a pubic form, are not able to be reserved, doing differentiated work and rehabilitation.

Both parties will be part of the preparation for the dates 15 and 16 of the South American Qualifiers Russia 2018, which will be resumed between August 31 and the first days of September, where Uruguay will face Argentina as a local and visiting Paraguay.

Uruguayan national team friendly

Ireland - Uruguay
Day: Sunday 4/6/17
Time: 2:00 p.m. (Uy)
Stadium: Aviva Stadium (Dublin, Ireland)

Italy - Uruguay
Day: Wednesday 7/6/17
Time: 16.45 h (Uy)
Stadium: Allianz Riviera (Nice, France)

Luis Saurez won't be available having picked up a hamstring injury. - http://www.auf.org.uy/Portal/NEWS/11236/



Luis Suárez injured

The health of the AUF reports that, this morning, official documentation was received from the Barcelona club, in which it is reported that player Luis Suárez suffered, in training this morning, muscle injury in the right hamstring, which Disables him for his participation in friendly matches with Uruguay against Ireland and Italy.
http://www.auf.org.uy/FCKEditor/image/2017%20Reservados%20vs%20Irlanda%20e%20Italia.jpg

[tetsujin1979]

that's odd, Suarez was fit enough to make the bench for the Copa del Rey final on Saturday night.

[DeLorean]

Kingdom will be thrilled as O'Neill is likely to experiment with a wing back formation - http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/theyre-a-little-bit-sore-martin-oneill-allays-fears-over-eunan-okane-and-shane-duffy-after-crash-35766411.html


It gives us a chance to experiment, possibly play three centre-backs and two wing backs

Not sure it's quite as appealing without Coleman & Brady though, and even Clark to a lesser extent.

[geysir]

They should leave Hoolahan behind for this trip to the US.

[Closed Account]

that's odd, Suarez was fit enough to make the bench for the Copa del Rey final on Saturday night.He got injured last week in training but he was suspended for Copa final anyway. Denis Suarez on the bench.

[tetsujin1979]

sorry, thought I saw him as part of the celebrations at the end.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

3-5-2

Randolph; Keogh, Pearce, Duffy; Christie, O'Kane, Hoolahan, Gleeson, McClean; McGoldrick, Murphy

[mark12345]

They should leave Hoolahan behind for this trip to the US.

I agree. Can't see what is to be gained by playing him in New Jersey. Injury to him would be disastrous. Maybe MON feels that it will be a hot evening in New Jersey and he is looking for someone to keep possession and spread it out among the green shirts? Because sure as sundown that's what Mexico are going to do to us.

[DannyInvincible]

'Ireland set to experiment with a new formation against Mexico?': http://www.the42.ie/ireland-mexico-martin-oneill-3414472-May2017/


“There is no recognised left back but it gives us the opportunity to experiment,” the Ireland boss told the media today. “We could possibly play three centre-halves and two wing-backs. James has done that before. It gives us the chance for a bit of experimentation.”

...

“It’s good that Keiren [Westwood] is pushing [Randolph]. Rob Elliot played the last couple of games for Newcastle but is still feeling the injury so we’ll assess that during the next couple of days. So we’ll just have the two goalkeepers coming with us.”

[Diggs246]

Will Liam Kelly join the squad for the Uruguay game?

[DeLorean]

McClean likely to captain the side against Mexico in what will be his 50th cap (can't believe he has that amount).

Also a lot of praise for Cyrus Christie who went to America to stay/get fit when the season ended.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/james-mcclean-likely-to-captain-ireland-for-mexico-friendly-1.3100636

[KrisLetang]

Are they staying in the Hyatt Centric in Times SQ again? I would not mind taking a selfie with O'Kane. Have a soft spot for Humanists.

[Fixer82]

Form training pics it looks like they'll still be wearing Umbro kit for Mexico game

[KrisLetang]

Could be psychological. "Umbro" means "Stay away I have bird-flu" in Spanish.

[DeLorean]

Liam Kelly not likely to be involved according to The Times but Arter will be in Dublin when the team get back from the U.S. - http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/harry-arter-likely-to-be-fit-for-world-cup-qualifier-with-austria-1.3102179

[DeLorean]

James McClean goes full Towk - http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/james-mcclean-hits-out-at-players-missing-internationals-1.3102022


What motivation do you need to play for your country? I’m fit and ready and available for selection.

It gets on my nerves when players come in and they’re not fit for games, but they are for the club games at the weekend. That gets to me.

[DannyInvincible]

Form training pics it looks like they'll still be wearing Umbro kit for Mexico game

The new deal with New Balance doesn't properly commence until August, so we'll wear Umbro gear until then: http://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/new-balance-becomes-official-kit-supplier

[gastric]

James McClean goes full Towk - http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/james-mcclean-hits-out-at-players-missing-internationals-1.3102022

You're wrong Del. TOWK would consider McClean to be a plastic paddy from another country!:eek:

[DannyInvincible]

I was just thinking about Ryan Meara there, as I recall he was brought in to train with the squad back in 2014 before our game with Portugal in New York. No training call-up for him this time though. He seems to be playing with New York Red Bulls II now.

[DannyInvincible]

James McClean goes full Towk - http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/james-mcclean-hits-out-at-players-missing-internationals-1.3102022

You'd wonder has he particular players in mind... Hard to know. It is the kind of a clichéd thing that a player might say in an interview to emphasise his own desire and commitment.

[DannyInvincible]

Liam Kelly not likely to be involved according to The Times but Arter will be in Dublin when the team get back from the U.S. - http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/harry-arter-likely-to-be-fit-for-world-cup-qualifier-with-austria-1.3102179

That's somewhat disappointing as Kelly looks a really exciting and self-assured prospect who will offer something totally different when he's finally given his chance at senior level.

Of Marc Wilson and Darron Gibson's hopes of being in the squad after the Mexico game, O'Neill seemed pessimistic and said:


Once we finish this [Mexico] game [we will] see how people come through.

Obviously Wilson, great as a person, but he hasn’t played that much. That’s the point. We do have some boys who have played more games at this minute and that might become very important in the middle of June when you haven’t played in a long time. Darron... the same. I wouldn’t dismiss people from my thoughts but it’s just the number of minutes.

Isn't a lack of minutes the very reason O'Neill brought, say, Randolph to the US though; to give him game-time as he hasn't been playing much for West Ham in the latter stages of the EPL season?

Why didn't O'Neill bring Wilson (who actually played in West Brom's final four games of the season and looked physically OK) along for the Mexico game if he thinks Wilson is short of action too, especially considering Wilson is such a versatile player and offers cover in a number of positions, including on the left and right of defence, which are positions where we're not well-stocked?

Also, Gibson played in 12 games for Sunderland this season since the beginning of February, so I'm not sure the "lack of minutes" rationale really adds up there either. Even if Gibson hasn't played enough minutes in O'Neill's opinion, why not have brought him along anyway to give him some extra game-time, if that is indeed what Gibson needs?

Maybe the above was just O'Neill's way of letting two players who've been sidelined to the squad's periphery down gently.