Premier Division 2017-WE'RE BACK

[Jofspring]

Fair enough. I am usually happy to have Freddy in goal but would be interesting to see what Clarke is like, I can't remember seeing him for Pat's. Is there any concern if it would have an impact on back four (positive or negative)?

Clarke was St.Pats No.1 for a long time winning the league and cup with them. I don't think it would have any impact on the back 4 to be honest.

[Shearer]

To be fair to Freddie the amount of suicidal ball he has to deal with from the back four is unnatural.

[bluewhitearmy]

Worst thing I saw on the night wasn't from the players but from our own fans. I hate seeing "SUPPORTERS" boo and then cheer the substitution of a Limerick player. Thought Turner had a decent first half but like all of the players seemed lost in the second. Didn't deserve the treatment he got though. Fans need to get over the fact that we're not in the first division anymore. We will loose plenty of games this year and if we start getting on the backs of players we'll struggle.

You would have had a point if that is actually what happened but although I can see why people may have thought that its not what happened at all.

[sadloserkid]

You would have had a point if that is actually what happened but although I can see why people may have thought that its not what happened at all.

I was on the other side of the ground and it was abundantly clear to me that the cheer was because of the confusion with the Bohs substitution that led to Tosi thinking he was making way and starting to trot over only to be frantically told to stay where he was. People looking for something to be outraged about sometimes.

[Jofspring]

It was the timing that was bad. When the number went up everyone was outraged, which was understandable. Then everyone was relived when they realised it was the Bohs 10 going off. It was when Turners number went up that the jeer was made. Now fair enough it was probably because Tosi' number didn't go up that people jeered rather than because it was Turners but it did sound like it was for Turner due to the timing. I remember cause that's exactly what I was thinking at the time.

[bluewhitearmy]

I can understand why some people thought it was that anyone around it could hear the conversation going with it though which made it obvious what it was. Some of our fans have a weird thing too of completely making things up to make it look worse like a few saying Turner was booed all the way off the pitch and boos continued after he was on the bench which is absolute nonsense.

[bluewhitearmy]

Anyway away from that stuff what do people think of the timing of tomorrows game? Personally think its an awful time to have it.

[harpstilidie]

Do you guys have the BWIN cameras set up in Markets Field?

If not will there be any coverage of the game even on radio?

[bluewhitearmy]

Do you guys have the BWIN cameras set up in Markets Field?

If not will there be any coverage of the game even on radio?

Don't have the cameras but game will be in full on Live95 fm.

[nigel-harps1954]

Anyway away from that stuff what do people think of the timing of tomorrows game? Personally think its an awful time to have it.

Awful time. Put off a potential large away following from Harps. Would have meant a 7am start on a bus. Even 4pm or 5pm would have been perfect.

[fieldofmarkets]

Agree on time. Expect they will be avoiding the Ireland v England rugby at 5pm.

[bluewhitearmy]

Should have just done it tonight or went up against the rugby. Is there really gonna be any better of a crowd early the day after Paddys day then there would be if we just went at our usual 6.30 tomorrow or at 7.45 tonight?

[Kennycon]

What price are limerick tomorrow, I think they will win comfortably, need a big game from Duggan and lee jay

[Shearer]

What price are limerick tomorrow, I think they will win comfortably, need a big game from Duggan and lee jay
8/15 on Paddy Power.

[nigel-harps1954]

Tomorrows game could be high scoring with two dodgy enough defences of late.

[LK37oldskool]

Today's weather is going to effect the attendance big time. The club will be doing well to even sell out the stand i reckon.

[LFC Blue]

Any doubts over the pitch being playable today??

[Jofspring]

I'd say the pitch will be playable alright. I reckon attendance of around 1,100.

[nigel-harps1954]

I'd say the pitch will be playable alright. I reckon attendance of around 1,100.

1,000 of that will be Harps fans too.

[whatyouwant]

Dodgy defence.3 goals conceded in 4 games

[Jofspring]

1,000 of that will be Harps fans too.

Easily. Especially considering the new flights from Ballybofey to Shannon on a Saturday morning are completely booked out.

[Lim till i die]

I have to say the highlight of this afternoon for me was a large section of the stand crowd coming to the fence at the end to applaud harps off the field.

Such a wonderful show of sportsmanship in recognition of a sporting finn harps side. Magic.

Best fans in the league.

[thomas72]

That was shockingly poor again Russell doesn't seem to be learning a thing

[bluewhitearmy]

Time for Russell to go simple as that.

[osarusan]

Brutal for about 70 minutes, and brutal in the exact same way as two years ago. Passing across the back 4 that only gets us into trouble, and utterly ineffective against a team defending deep and wide.

So easy to defend against.

[Kennycon]

Time for Russell to go simple as that.

Give the man a chance few games into the season

[bluewhitearmy]

Give the man a chance few games into the season

3 years into his time here.

[Kennycon]

3 years into his time here.

very unlucky to get relegated came straight back up , yes not the greatest of starts but should be given more time.

[LK37oldskool]

With 3 teams to be relegated Limerick cannot take that chance. We've a budget bigger than most of the other premier teams so results like Monday and today are unacceptable.

[bluewhitearmy]

very unlucky to get relegated came straight back up , yes not the greatest of starts but should be given more time.

Didn't win a game in 21 from the start of the relegation season,ya very unlucky to go down. As for straight back up I won't even bother saying what everyone knows already.

Harps used the same tactics today as they used when they relegated us and if Martin is in charge next time we play em they will use the same tactics again and get another result.

[blueblood]

I'd be willing to stick with Russell a bit longer but ONLY if he stops this sh!t passing the ball around in front of our goal, not only is it gifting teams goals but it's also just wasting time

[bluewhitearmy]

I'd be willing to stick with Russell a bit longer but ONLY if he stops this sh!t passing the ball around in front of our goal,

So Russell out then.

[CraftyToePoke]

The relegation and following promotion have been covered, he has been backed this time up, and although I am not saying its time for a change yet, I think its a bit early, the last two home results have been very disheartening. Fellas watching this team week in week out seem to be of the mind its the same mistakes being repeated which is concerning also. It does need to change soon.

[Kennycon]

Surly the players have to take some responsibility, Freddie hall was a nightmare for the goal and looks so nerves, abit more direct route at times

[Kennycon]

The relegation and following promotion have been covered, he has been backed this time up, and although I am not saying its time for a change yet, I think its a bit early, the last two home results have been very disheartening. Fellas watching this team week in week out seem to be of the mind its the same mistakes being repeated which is concerning also. It does need to change soon.


What do you think of Freddie ???

[Mastershake87]

I don't have a problem with Martin's keep ball tactics but he has to play the players that will implement he's game plan. Lynch came on today and gave us the link thats badly needed between defence and attack. He needs to a be a permanent start. Freddy Hall will always be a liability with the ball at he's feet and I would like to see Brendan Clarke given a go now. We need a keeper who is comfortable with the ball or its a waste of time playing it around at the back like we do.

[CraftyToePoke]

What do you think of Freddie ???

Live away so only see about 4 games a season, you see. That's why I mentioned fellas who watch week in week out in my post and the errors.

[Gerrard1]

Turner's substitution v Bohs was sarcastically cheered and applauded by the section of supporters in front of the press area in the stand, simple as. I can't believe people are on here denying that this happened. I heard a number of supporters commenting on it when leaving the ground. He did have a poor game along with a number of others but thats no way to treat a player, he needs encouragement from the supporters at the games and on forums like this. It was nice to see him bounce back with cross for Tosi's equaliser today.

[bluewhitearmy]

Turner's substitution v Bohs was sarcastically cheered and applauded by the section of supporters in front of the press area in the stand, simple as. I can't believe people are on here denying that this happened. I heard a number of supporters commenting on it when leaving the ground. He did have a poor game along with a number of others but thats no way to treat a player, he needs encouragement from the supporters at the games and on forums like this. It was nice to see him bounce back with cross for Tosi's equaliser today.

He wasn't at all as has been backed up elsewhere by members of the media standing directly behind it and people standing around it not part of the group, saying simple as at the end doesn't make your bull true btw. Yet again one of the josephines instead of discussing the horrible performance we have just seen today comes along with some nonsense to distract from it.

[Jofspring]

My main gripe is it takes us 6 passes to do something that could have been done in one. Pass, pass, pass.....pressure.......hoof.

[bluewhitearmy]

My main gripe is it takes us 6 passes to do something that could have been done in one. Pass, pass, pass.....pressure.......hoof.

It's infuriating or the amount of open players missed cos we are too busy making sure all the back 5 touch it first.

[LK37oldskool]

Turner's substitution v Bohs was sarcastically cheered and applauded by the section of supporters in front of the press area in the stand, simple as. I can't believe people are on here denying that this happened. I heard a number of supporters commenting on it when leaving the ground. He did have a poor game along with a number of others but thats no way to treat a player, he needs encouragement from the supporters at the games and on forums like this. It was nice to see him bounce back with cross for Tosi's equaliser today.
Not this again. This has been done to death all week. I was in that area of the stand as always and what your claiming did not happen. While we were disappointed with his performance booing or jeering our own did not happen. Those lads who lead the singing are extremely loyal to the club and know how important it is to back the team at all times. We are entitled on forums like this to criticise the club and individual players as supporters. It would be nice if going forward we could stick to the facts.

[da bishop]

Give the man a chance few games into the season

Aren,t you the guy slating managers on the junior forums and your on here commenting on a highly paid manager with a huge budget with his feet 3yrs under the table.stay where you belong you have,n a clue.

[osarusan]

My main gripe is it takes us 6 passes to do something that could have been done in one. Pass, pass, pass.....pressure.......hoof.
Exactly this.

Something like this: Hall - Williams - Robson - Williams - Whitehead - Kelly - Whitehead - Hall - Williams - Long ball.

The long ball is no better at the end of all that than it would be at the start. All that hasn't improved things in any way. I get the idea behind probing for openings and all that, but we never find any openings. The best outcome is that it's a long ball. The worst outcome is that we give away possession or even goals.

And the thing is that if you put them under pressure, the cracks show. We had a free kick just inside our half after Robson had been fouled - balled played back to Williams, and across the line. Eventually Kelly (I think) was closed down for a throw in. From the throw in, more pointless passing, a mis-hit, a rushed clearance, and we are a goal down.

Just before that, we had a free kick inside their half. Williams went up, lots of players forward. Get it in the box? No way - free kick goes square to Whitehead who is immediately pressured and balloons a ball over everybody.

[Jofspring]

To me if you are waiting for a crack/ gap to show then one of the defenders needs to either push forward into the space created or pass into the option that has opened up. We seem to be doing the part where we try move teams around but the important part of taking advantage of that is seriously missing.

To not lose to us you just need to hold your position and not make silly mistakes.

Some of our best chances today came from us breaking on harps and it was the same against Bohs, when space was available.

Zonal marking again today. One thing that stuck out to me is, zonal is fine IF the ball is well cleared first time. If the ball spills in the box or crossed immediately back in there is confusion everywhere as the players now have to go from their zone to actually picking a man to mark. That is much harder to do on the fly.

[Kennycon]

Aren,t you the guy slating managers on the junior forums and your on here commenting on a highly paid manager with a huge budget with his feet 3yrs under the table.stay where you belong you have,n a clue.

What school did you go too!!! Show me where I have slated a manager or managers, and the other forums are your present level by the sounds of things , getting back to soccer I hope the chairman gives him time, a centre half is needed asap.

[bluewhitearmy]

What school did you go too!!! Show me where I have slated a manager or managers, and the other forums are your present level by the sounds of things , getting back to soccer I hope the chairman gives him time, a centre half is needed asap.

3 years not enough time?

[Kennycon]

3 years not enough time?

3years enough time for what?? , stability, mid table table or win the league people have to be realistic and not get carried away and give the man a realistic target, winning the league is not a realistic target anytime soon in my opinion I would give Martin more time will he need to change the system with some of the defenders we have yes.

[osarusan]

I would give Martin more time will he need to change the system with some of the defenders we have yes.
The problem is that there's no reason to believe he will change the system. He didn't change it two years ago - we passed it across the back and got ourselves into trouble game after game, and it never changed at all, while picking up 6 points from a possible 63.

It's one thing to have a preferred way of playing, that's grand. But when you don't have the players to implement that system, you get ones that can, or you devise new tactics. Russell hasn't done either.

Players like Whitehead, and Paudie before him, are completely uncomfortable with what they are being asked to do.

Jofspring has it exactly right above. All this passing ends in a long ball anyway. That's the best outcome and could be achieved just as easily without a string of passes across the back. All the passing achieves is to increase the possibility of us getting in trouble.

[Lim till i die]

Anybody remember a fella called Stuart Taylor??

The style of play is eerily reminiscent of the end of his reign.

He was sacked after a hammering off cork if memory serves...