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Home Farm have confirmed they didn't get one according to soccercentral (http://www.soccercentral.ie/viewstory.asp?id=14615&mainheading=Eircom&viewstory=yes) but unfortunately it's only because of outstanding paperwork, and it should be sorted
I'm sure i'd have a different view if was City but surely clubs can't be allowed to fail on missing paperwork indefinitely? Why can't the licening committee just make fone call to club & ask them to deliver certain documents in person?
:rolleyes:
pineapple stu
11/02/2005, 12:48 PM
RTE are probably trawling our websites too for news of this?
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2005/0211/eircomleague.html
That's a joke that they have to do that. The 3:00 press conference sounds like something the FAI just threw together after people contacting them all morning. Maybe I'm being cynical here, but...idiots! :rolleyes:
Hibs4Ever
11/02/2005, 12:50 PM
Home Farm have confirmed they didn't get one according to soccercentral (http://www.soccercentral.ie/viewstory.asp?id=14615&mainheading=Eircom&viewstory=yes) but unfortunately it's only because of outstanding paperwork, and it should be sorted
How many appeals does a club get? :confused:
gufct
11/02/2005, 12:54 PM
that only 9 clubs got licences 7 premier and 2 1st division.This makes the league AGM very interesting tomorrow lets all wait for the big fudge again which will be another nail in the coffin of el football.
This is the 2nd year that clubs have ignored the warnings but after last years fiasco I can see the FAI letting them all off the hook again.The UEFA Licence is the only way to regain any credibility for our league if it is not enforced the clubs who are guilty of reckless trading and putting their own clubs in danger of folding will be the ones who are rewarded.
Dont blame the FAI or the Licencing Committe the problems are entirely of the clubs own making.
Article on eleven-a-side (http://www.eleven-a-side.com/ucd/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=15963) claiming that the Premier clubs who haven't made an announcement yet - Waterford, Bohs, Longford, UCD and Rovers - have all failed. Just to clarify, this is complete nonsense and shouldn't be believed.
As previously stated, Waterford have made an announcement, and have received a licence. So yes, complete nonsense.
In defence of the FAI :rolleyes: "official" notification was by post today, so maybe 3pm was set to ensure each clup got the letter.
Clones Road Cas
11/02/2005, 12:57 PM
that only 9 clubs got licences 7 premier and 2 1st division.This makes the league AGM very interesting tomorrow lets all wait for the big fudge again which will be another nail in the coffin of el football.
This is the 2nd year that clubs have ignored the warnings but after last years fiasco I can see the FAI letting them all off the hook again.The UEFA Licence is the only way to regain any credibility for our league if it is not enforced the clubs who are guilty of reckless trading and putting their own clubs in danger of folding will be the ones who are rewarded.
Dont blame the FAI or the Licencing Committe the problems are entirely of the clubs own making.
We got ours I know. Agree with you that this is a club issue. The criteria are not that bad, hard work involved but we all say we want a professionally run league.
pineapple stu
11/02/2005, 1:00 PM
In defence of the FAI :rolleyes: "official" notification was by post today, so maybe 3pm was set to ensure each clup got the letter.
But sure the post comes at 8 or 9 in the morning! Seven hours to open a letter?! And weren't clubs informed by phone yesterday?
Meant to mention that about Waterford - cheers for pointing it out. Nice to see how hard it was for you to type the words "In defence of the FAI" though! :p
Edit - from the Longford (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?p=221343#post221343) forum from BreakingNews.ie - we've gotten our licence.
But sure the post comes at 8 or 9 in the morning!
Try living in the sticks :D
Bald Student
11/02/2005, 1:05 PM
Are firts division clubs allowed to apply for premier licences? How do we decide who gets promoted if a premier club fails?
It now looks like four teams didnt get any licence Dundalk,Longford,Kildare County & Limerick and only 4 Premier Teams got Premier Licences Shels,Harps,Drogheda and one other.All the rest got 1st Division licences only allegdly.
pineapple stu
11/02/2005, 1:06 PM
Try living in the sticks :D
Waterford the sticks?! Ah now!
Yeah, okay, the post can come a bit later down the way, but the current situation is a nonsense. Sure Harps are the first ones here to post notification at 9:00am - think Ballybofey is about the most "in the sticks" that you'll get in the eL!
pineapple stu
11/02/2005, 1:08 PM
Are first division clubs allowed to apply for premier licences? How do we decide who gets promoted if a premier club fails?
No. And apparently we don't. There's apparently no power of relegation/promotion. A three-point penalty would be fair - not as drastic as relegation (which would probably so more harm than good as budgets have already been drawn up and contracts agreed on their basis), but would show that the eL and the FAI are at least taking the issue seriously.
SeanDrog
11/02/2005, 1:08 PM
Go on the Drogs :)
A face
11/02/2005, 1:12 PM
Check www.irishfootballonline.com (http://www.irishfootballonline.com/news_story.php?newsid=2498) for updates on this
Comments from Clubs to follow shortly ....
No. And apparently we don't. There's apparently no power of relegation/promotion. A three-point penalty would be fair - not as drastic as relegation (which would probably so more harm than good as budgets have already been drawn up and contracts agreed on their basis), but would show that the eL and the FAI are at least taking the issue seriously.
And for those who dont get a licence at all the Leinster Senior league beckons fact not fantasy.
pineapple stu
11/02/2005, 1:17 PM
Apologies...give the final word to Mr T, who I know knows what he's talking about!...
If one or more Premier clubs do not get a Premier license they could be blocked from compete in the Premier, BUT a First Divsion Club (incl the team relegated from the Premier) could not replace them as they did not qualify in competition to play in the Premier Division.
but you will find out he is wrong on this.How would a 3 point deduction matter if only one team goes down some slap on the wrist that would be.Action has to taken before next weeks AGM or the league will be kicking off next year.
pineapple stu
11/02/2005, 1:25 PM
If you finish two points off Europe, it'll matter!
Three points penalty and a fine seems to be a common penalty - ask Kaiserslautern.
SeanDrog
11/02/2005, 1:25 PM
On what aspect is Trev wrong?
pineapple stu
11/02/2005, 1:38 PM
Whether or not teams can (read: will) get promoted/relegated on the basis of the UEFA Licence.
taken from dundalk.com
Dundalk Football Club expect to receive their UEFA License early next week after discussions this morning between CEO Sean Connolly and Bob Breen of the FAI. "We are practically there and only have to comply with a number of small legal issues in order to obtain the license. These issues should not take long to resolve and may even be completed by the end of the day".
Issues to be resolved
The awarding of the UEFA License has been delayed until the following two areas are addressed:
1. The receipt of an Auditor's Certificate to Practice.
2. Confirmation by the club's auditors of an existing standing order.
Speaking to dundalkfc.com, the CEO added that "it is unfortunate that this has held up the awarding of the license but we are happy with our progress. It has been a long and arduous process and I expect that these minor problems will be ironed out quickly and that another piece of the jigsaw for our plans at Dundalk FC will be set in place."
what i cant seem to work out the deadline has passed so the clubs get another appeal/ deadline ????
is that fair ???
tiktok
11/02/2005, 1:57 PM
...that only 9 clubs got licences, 7 premier and 2 1st.
I count 11 as of lunchtime (8 and 3)
Finn Harps
Shelbourne
Drogheda United
Bray wanderers
Derry City
Cork City
St.Pat's
Waterford United
Athlone Town
Galway United
Monaghan United
The only clubs that have admitted that they did not get the licence today (so far) have been Longford and Dundalk from what I can gather, though there seems to be concern about Kildare, DCFC and surprisingly...Bohs.
That eleven-a-side article says waterford have failed, though AFAIK they've confirmed they've received theirs.
dublin city haven't got a license as well?
ONE thing that is for sure is that the league has found itself back in the same place it was last year, in a total f*cking mess !!! I think we should nominate the chimps in dublin zoo to run the league next year!! surely they could do a better job :rolleyes:
tallaghtfornia
11/02/2005, 2:03 PM
[QUOTE=tiktok]I count 11 as of lunchtime (8 and 3)
Finn Harps
Shelbourne
Drogheda United
Bray wanderers
Derry City
Cork City
St.Pat's
Waterford United
add shamrock rovers to this list, confirmed as gettin their license on all news stations
Seeing as we got awarded a Premier Standard licence and
Longford have no licence at all, I think we should take their
place in the Premier :p
Ooops 11 a side webside got i wrong, we got a First Division
licence.
Schumi
11/02/2005, 2:06 PM
[QUOTE=tiktok]I count 11 as of lunchtime (8 and 3)
Finn Harps
Shelbourne
Drogheda United
Bray wanderers
Derry City
Cork City
St.Pat's
Waterford United
add shamrock rovers to this list, confirmed as gettin their license on all news stations
And UCD.
Newstalk report that Home Farm and three other clubs have apparently failed.
dublin city haven't got a license as well?
ONE thing that is for sure is that the league has found itself back in the same place it was last year, in a total f*cking mess !!! I think we should nominate the chimps in dublin zoo to run the league next year!! surely they could do a better job :rolleyes:
fault Brian it is the clubs fault full stop.This is the 2nd year in a row some clubs have chosen to ignore the criteria and as ive said before the licence is the only way forward if clubs wont adapt they have to be sanctioned.
Bohs have got their's according tohttp://gypsiesweb.proboards14.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1108126443
fault Brian it is the clubs fault full stop.This is the 2nd year in a row some clubs have chosen to ignore the criteria and as ive said before the licence is the only way forward if clubs wont adapt they have to be sanctioned.
ya, but it is up to the league to punish the teams that continue to ignore the criterias instead of letting them appeal there failed appeals!!!!
who is Brian???
Bohs have got their's according tohttp://gypsiesweb.proboards14.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1108126443
.........extremely dodgy if true
Farrelly hasnt the qualifications - and hey - wot a tax bill!
Buile Shuibhne
11/02/2005, 2:19 PM
http://www.shelbournefc.ie/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1841
Bald Student
11/02/2005, 2:25 PM
http://www.shelbournefc.ie/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1841To summarise; Longford, DCFC, Dundalk and Kildare failed.
They have untill 18th to get everything together before they're failed finally.
that so many clubs didnt go public on their results I wonder why???????????
But then again the FAI would never do anything underhand!!!!!!!!!!!!!
right, Im of to terryland WHHHHHOOOOOOO!!!
Come On United
SeanDrog
11/02/2005, 2:28 PM
gufct I bet you loved The X Files :cool:
pineapple stu
11/02/2005, 2:31 PM
that so many clubs didnt go public on their results I wonder why???????????
'Cos they don't have any proper PR channels. Basically. I know that's why we wouldn't have made an announcement. Shows how far behind some clubs are in some ways...
Bald Student
11/02/2005, 2:33 PM
it is up to the league to punish the teamsHave patience, the results were only announced today and there's another week before the final decision. We'll find out soon what action, if any, the league will take.
how come Shels got the Press Release before everyone else does Ollie have to approve it before they can release it.
SeanDrog
11/02/2005, 2:39 PM
GUFUt I always like to read your posts but one thing does come across and that is a deep dislike for the fai and admin of the league to the point it appears that it is eating ou up - let it go man - for your own good.
I presume SHels are on teh FAI official mailing list as Fintan also gets the suspensions lists etc pretty quick.
A face
11/02/2005, 3:15 PM
The clubs that failed .... why did they fail ?
Are they things that can be fixed in near future ?
SeanDrog
11/02/2005, 3:16 PM
hang on a sec ... just warming up my crystal ball ...... I see a crest ......
The clubs that failed .... why did they fail ?
Are they things that can be fixed in near future ?
Some of the things that they failed clubs on 1st time round were just silly ! They could'nt be seen giving clubs like Bray, UCD, Harps etc.... a licence when clubs like Rovers or Shels had major ommisions from there froms
SeanDrog
11/02/2005, 3:22 PM
this is what I love about chat mbs - how do you know shels etc had "major" admissions and Bary etc had next to none??
LFC in Exile
11/02/2005, 3:23 PM
Ah now! Have you seen ours?! ;)
Incidentally, hope to have that up and running with a revamp soon...just as soon as I've worked out the basics of webmastering...!
You've got a website! We dream of a website! :)
pineapple stu
11/02/2005, 3:26 PM
You've got a website! We dream of a website! :)
Well, we call it a website...more of a picture on t'screen! :D
SeanDrog
11/02/2005, 3:26 PM
Ah but our long suffering lims friend - at least you have a league licence :)
LFC in Exile
11/02/2005, 3:27 PM
Well, we call it a website...more of a picture on t'screen! :D
A website with pictures! We dream of pictures! :)
Please stop rubbing it in - show off! :D
pineapple stu
11/02/2005, 3:29 PM
A website with pictures! We dream of pictures! :)
And you try telling t'kids today that - th'won't believe a word!
:D :D
LFC in Exile
11/02/2005, 3:29 PM
Ah but our long suffering lims friend - at least you have a league licence :)
Our suffering is about to end. And if you take a look at our forum you'll see that some of the fans like the suffering. Still giving out! :D
Comic Book Guy
11/02/2005, 3:34 PM
awarded First Division License :)
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