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tetsujin1979
14/07/2009, 2:18 PM
Ha clearly you dont watch dunne weekly so, thats how poor;y i rate his distribution it is incredibly frustrating to watch
I watch him quite frequently. I'd make the point that playing behind such an attack minded midfield, the only player he can really pass to is whoever is in the holding role, either Kompany or De Jong. It's not that his distribution is bad, it's that he has noone to pass to.

Manblue
14/07/2009, 3:27 PM
I watch him quite frequently. I'd make the point that playing behind such an attack minded midfield, the only player he can really pass to is whoever is in the holding role, either Kompany or De Jong. It's not that his distribution is bad, it's that he has noone to pass to.

They played 2 defensive midfielders for the majority of the season which would give him more options rather then less in my opinion and ireland was more box to box for the first half of the season when given the central role,

Regards the Richards point above he was terrible but Onuaha and kopmany played along side Dunne more then him so that excuse doesnt hold with me.

Im not saying i dont rate him im saying hes not top 4 material

NeilMcD
14/07/2009, 3:36 PM
He will be grand at City so as they will not be worrying the top 4 for a while.

DeLorean
14/07/2009, 3:36 PM
I'd trust the judgement of fans that see him week in and week out tbh.

Similar enough to your post about the United match-goers in another thread. I'm not of this opinion at all. Firstly, like the rest of us, match-goers are generally fairly divided. Secondly, I know some match-goers who I don't think have a clue dispite their loyalty. Thirdly, when it comes to the PL I definitely see enough of the regular starters to have my own opinion whereas I'd be more inclined to take others word for it in relation to the Eircom Lge, local soccer, etc.

Also from reading various threads on that BBC 606 thing it's mainly fellas winding each other up like Primary School kids.

eirebhoy
14/07/2009, 3:45 PM
I'd trust the judgement of fans that see him week in and week out tbh.
Have a read of what those fans thought of him 18 month ago though. He had a bad year which imo was down to poor team selections but he's still as good as ever. Football fans are very fickle. I don't know many Celtic players that are fans favourite after having a poor season.


and ireland was more box to box for the first half of the season when given the central role,
That is Hughes' biggest problem. Playing Ireland in a 2 man midfield. Madness. He's a natural give and go player and won't be in positions to cover for lost possession. And it wasn't really until Christmas that he started playing 2 defensive midfielders.

SunderlandBohs
15/07/2009, 12:19 PM
O/T here but did anyone think Citeh improved a hell of a lot when Given signed? Best keeper in the Prem bar none!

tetsujin1979
15/07/2009, 12:24 PM
O/T here but did anyone think Citeh improved a hell of a lot when Given signed? Best keeper in the Prem bar none!
Home form yes, away form...not so much: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/teamStats.xquery?teamID=1718&seasonID=138

tetsujin1979
15/07/2009, 2:20 PM
Dunne will not be forced out of City, and no bids have been received, according to Mark Hughes: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2009/July/boss-in-dunney-talks

Still mentioned as the club captain in that article, I was under the impression that the captaincy had been offered to Barry as part of the transfer.

eirebhoy
15/07/2009, 3:00 PM
O/T here but did anyone think Citeh improved a hell of a lot when Given signed? Best keeper in the Prem bar none!
De Jong would have been a big help too. Dunne wasn't bad at all after the new year.

Scram
16/07/2009, 10:36 AM
Dunne will not be forced out of City, and no bids have been received, according to Mark Hughes: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2009/July/boss-in-dunney-talks

Still mentioned as the club captain in that article, I was under the impression that the captaincy had been offered to Barry as part of the transfer.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement, basically, "we want to sell him but no bids have come in" !!

I think they've got this wrong and Dunne alongside Terry would be a great partnership.

irishfan86
25/07/2009, 3:06 PM
Dunne came off with an injury today in Man City's match with Kaizer Chiefs.

Hughes said in the post-match interview that it's an impact injury to the side of his knee.

Hopefully nothing major.

tetsujin1979
27/07/2009, 9:21 AM
short update on Dunne's injury in South Africa from http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2009/July/Hughes-sums-up-SA-tour

Following the squad's return to the UK on Sunday morning, Mark said, "Dunnie has been struggling with his knee leading up to the game, he wanted to try it but it quickly became obvious he really was struggling so we needed to take him off.

jbyrne
27/07/2009, 9:35 AM
short update on Dunne's injury in South Africa from http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2009/July/Hughes-sums-up-SA-tour

wasnt he suffering with a knee injury coming up to bulgaria match? if it hasnt been sorted over the last two months i just hope it doesnt signal that he needs an operation or similar

Thommo
28/07/2009, 7:24 AM
Heard on radio he's linked with a move to Wolves, hopefully he doesn't need an operation can't be without "the Wardrobe" for the final qualifying games he's been a rock throughout this campaign must be bored picking up mom awards from sponsors after Ireland games.

tetsujin1979
28/07/2009, 2:25 PM
Dunne's opinion of City's pre season tour of South Africa: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2009/July/Dunne-reflects-on-SA

SkStu
28/07/2009, 2:59 PM
must be bored picking up mom awards from sponsors after Ireland games.

:confused:

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DeLorean
28/07/2009, 3:11 PM
Toure In City Talks (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8172622.stm)

Wangball
28/07/2009, 3:16 PM
Am slightly biased on this one but I'd love to see him at Celtic and playing in the Champions League, I really do think that aside from some blips last season he's been one of the best Centre Halves in the EPL over the last 5 years and I think he deserves the chance to play in the Champions League so he can prove it on a wider stage

DeLorean
28/07/2009, 3:19 PM
Am slightly biased on this one but I'd love to see him at Celtic and playing in the Champions League, I really do think that aside from some blips last season he's been one of the best Centre Halves in the EPL over the last 5 years and I think he deserves the chance to play in the Champions League so he can prove it on a wider stage

Will Celtic even make the group stages though? I'd definitely prefer to see him there than at Sunderland or somewhere regardless.

Razors left peg
28/07/2009, 3:54 PM
With all Man Citys attempts to sign John Terry I was surprised that they were never linked with Carvalho instead. He is one of the classiest defenders in England without ever getting the praise he deserved.Really think City are missin a trick there because I honestly believe that if Richard Dunne was paired with Carvalho they would complement eachother perfectly and be one of the best partnerships in the league

Noelys Guitar
02/08/2009, 4:32 PM
Aston Villa's supporters forum is reporting Dunne has spoken with MON and will be signing for them if City get Lescott/anynamehere. Good move if it happens.

Stuttgart88
02/08/2009, 5:18 PM
MON would be a great manager for Dunne. He man manages well and always seems to get the best out of centre backs. Better manager than Hughes by a distance.

the scout
02/08/2009, 6:24 PM
As far as i remember a few seasons ago Richard Dunne got the most sendings off and the most red cards AND got city's player of the season or defender of the season cant remember!! quality player he is top class! MAD

stiffler
02/08/2009, 9:58 PM
Is there any talk for him being used as a makeweight in the Lescott deal?

I wouldnt mind seeing him back at Everton to be honest.

geysir
03/08/2009, 12:27 AM
Aston Villa's supporters forum is reporting Dunne has spoken with MON and will be signing for them if City get Lescott/anynamehere. Good move if it happens.
You could be on a roll Noely, if this one pans out.

tricky_colour
03/08/2009, 12:38 AM
Would be a decent move if it happens, Villa finished 6th four places above Man City, and that means UEFA football, also nice to have some Irish interest when Villla play + MON is one of the best mangers around.
Good move if it happens.

shakermaker1982
03/08/2009, 11:27 AM
good move for Dunne if true.

irishultra
04/08/2009, 11:43 AM
apparently man city have signed that guy lescott from everton, so dunne will be off. aston villa would be a step back but not a massive one.

seanfhear
04/08/2009, 2:09 PM
I find it difficult to understand why Mark Hughes has so little time for Dunne.
Dunne was a little naughty 5/6 years ago and was maybe having too good of a time. He sorted that out and was citys best player for 3 years.

Has dunne got back to his good time ways or is it just one of those cases where one manager does not like this players style of play and wants to get rid of him.

Dunne had poor assistance in defence last year and certainly in the early part of the year the midfield was not doing too much to help the defence.

If Hughes does not get his midfield working better defencievly then whoever he has playing at centre back may not look that good either.

To be honest if the manager of a club does not want you and it looks like he will keep his job in the medium to long term then any player is better off out of there.

The manager may not have to like you but he has to have respect for you as a player. The player must also respect the manager of course.

geysir
04/08/2009, 2:55 PM
apparently man city have signed that guy lescott from everton, so dunne will be off. aston villa would be a step back but not a massive one.
The question remains to be answered if getting a truck load of cash will make Hughes into a good manager and City into a bigger club.
Villa have performed better than City. Mon is undoubtably a better manager than Hughes, so far.
For Ireland, it would be a very good move for Dunne.

dr_peepee
04/08/2009, 2:57 PM
. aston villa would be a step back but not a massive one.


I actually think that at this point in time it's a step up.... City now are far from Chelsea under Mourinho. And I don't see that changing this season.

the scout
04/08/2009, 4:00 PM
i really dont like city but i like richard dunne is it true that city signed lescott?

Razors left peg
04/08/2009, 4:15 PM
If City pay over 20 million for Lescott it would nearly match the Ibrahimovic to Barcelona deal for stupidity. Hes is a seriously average defender and alongside Toure, who was very average also for Arsenal last season, they would not inspire a whole lot of confidence.If Dunne stayed at City I would have no doubt he could keep his place ahead of either of those two... but it does look like he is being forced out and a move to Villa would be excellent for him.Martin ONeill is the perfect manager to get the sort of performances out of him that won him Citys player of the season 4 years in a row and of the standard of his Ireland performances under Trap.I always had a bit of time for Hughes because I thought he did very well as manager of Blackburn and Wales but he is making some very strange decisions at City.... and if their preseason form is anything to go by it will be more of the same as last year for them

Stuttgart88
04/08/2009, 5:58 PM
Selling Toure for 15 million was a good price for Arsenal I reckon. Toure had the nerve to complain about lack of leadership at Arsenal, but at 28 leadership was supposed to come from him. I wasn't evident very often. Decent player but still looks to me like a frustrated midfielder rather than a natural CB. Lescott's a decent player too but nowhere near worth 18 million (the figure I read City bid yesterday).

Ordinary Fan
04/08/2009, 10:53 PM
Toure 15 million, Lescott 18 million and Dunne 6 million.

Madness!!!

as_i_say
05/08/2009, 9:41 AM
If Dunne was English he would be worth 16million dont you know :rolleyes:

livehead1
05/08/2009, 10:17 AM
I've heard from a very good source that Dunne went a bit mad on the beer for a spell last season.

Den Perry
05/08/2009, 11:11 AM
If City pay over 20 million for Lescott it would nearly match the Ibrahimovic to Barcelona deal for stupidity. Hes is a seriously average defender and alongside Toure, who was very average also for Arsenal last season, they would not inspire a whole lot of confidence.If Dunne stayed at City I would have no doubt he could keep his place ahead of either of those two... but it does look like he is being forced out and a move to Villa would be excellent for him.Martin ONeill is the perfect manager to get the sort of performances out of him that won him Citys player of the season 4 years in a row and of the standard of his Ireland performances under Trap.I always had a bit of time for Hughes because I thought he did very well as manager of Blackburn and Wales but he is making some very strange decisions at City.... and if their preseason form is anything to go by it will be more of the same as last year for them

I agree with everything you say. Hughes turning into a clown

Sligo Hornet
05/08/2009, 11:12 AM
I've heard from a very good source that Dunne went a bit mad on the beer for a spell last season.

So did I !

Stuttgart88
05/08/2009, 11:38 AM
At Craven Cottage we all commented that he looked on the heavy side again.

Scram
05/08/2009, 12:12 PM
Speculation (mine!)

Lescott to Man City..£14 PLUS Richard Dunne ?!

Moyes would snap that up methinks.

Wouldn't be a gret move for Dunne though, Everton will always be a 6th to
10th place EPL team.

geysir
05/08/2009, 3:00 PM
I heard it from a solid unimpeachable source, that he overheard 2 people talking together at Craven Cottage,
one said "Dunne looks a bit heavy"
the other replied, "he must be knocking back too much beer"

dr_peepee
05/08/2009, 3:41 PM
Speculation (mine!)

Lescott to Man City..£14 PLUS Richard Dunne ?!

Moyes would snap that up methinks.

Wouldn't be a gret move for Dunne though, Everton will always be a 6th to
10th place EPL team.

I've heard that neither Moyes nor Dunne wants that...

Stuttgart88
05/08/2009, 9:45 PM
I heard it from a solid unimpeachable source, that he overheard 2 people talking together at Craven Cottage,
one said "Dunne looks a bit heavy"
the other replied, "he must be knocking back too much beer"Just saying what I saw. You should have seen him from 20 feet away - very big. Maybe he just doesn't look good in white.

irishfan86
05/08/2009, 9:47 PM
You'd be drinking a lot too if you were left out to dry by your midfield every game, and had to babysit Micah Richards at the back.

And if he plays like he did in Bulgaria each game, I'll buy him the beer myself.

Crosby87
05/08/2009, 10:15 PM
He would have lost the captaincy if he was the lush that the rumor mill has him being. I think.

irishfan86
05/08/2009, 10:20 PM
He would have lost the captaincy if he was the lush that the rumor mill has him being. I think.

Drink or no drink, I'd bet on him being stripped of the captaincy by the end of the season anyway.

Hughes will drop him, but he will remain "club captain," as Barry captains the side in the meantime.

Eventually Dunne will want a bigger role and ask to move in January, and Barry will be named permanent captain. :(

Crosby87
06/08/2009, 12:25 AM
Maybe Shay will be captain. He's been Given it good after all.

Scram
06/08/2009, 8:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scram
Speculation (mine!)

Lescott to Man City..£14 PLUS Richard Dunne ?!

Moyes would snap that up methinks.

Wouldn't be a gret move for Dunne though, Everton will always be a 6th to
10th place EPL team.


I've heard that neither Moyes nor Dunne wants that...

Where? I didn't even know it was being mooted.

I would assume Dunne would not want it but be surprised if Moyes wouldn't want Dunne.

dr_peepee
06/08/2009, 9:18 AM
Think it was one of the earlier posts in this thread... But definately read it somewhere...