Time For The "New Woman"

[Peadar]

so I dont need any lessons thank you very much!!! :p


I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about women who can't cook.
You like to take things personally Babysis.
It may surprise you how many women can't cook these days.

[Babysis]

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about women who can't cook.
You like to take things personally Babysis.
It may surprise you how many women can't cook these days.

And im sure it wont suprise you how many men these days are still looking for some stereotypical unrealistic, "just like their mammy" kind of woman.

[razor]

In fairness to my Mrs , she is making a damn good effort on the cookery front.
For the 1st few years she didn't really do all that much (Neither did I for the record) but a few Darina books later and as they say the proof is in the pudding or curry or home made soup, yummy.

[Peadar]

stereotypical unrealistic, "just like their mammy" kind of woman.

What's so unrealistic about it?
Our mothers weren't just some figment of our imaginations!

[Babysis]

What's so unrealistic about it?
Our mothers weren't just some figment of our imaginations!

But yopur mothers weren't rearing you in the same environment as today. Im not saying women didnt have pressures in the past, but women (and men) are both under pressures which is making it increasingly harder to be "just like your mammy". thats not to say they dont exist, good luck to ya trying to find one!

[Peadar]

women (and men) are both under pressures which is making it increasingly harder to be "just like your mammy".

It could be argued that many of those pressures are self imposed.

How are we going to pay for the MPV and a normal car?
How are we going to pay for the childminder?
How are we going to pay for the designer baby clothes to keep up with the Beckhams?
How are we going tp pay for the take-away meals every night?

It was interesting to read an article in Ireland about how much couples could save by job sharing.

[Babysis]

It could be argued that many of those pressures are self imposed.

How are we going to pay for the MPV and a normal car?
How are we going to pay for the childminder?
How are we going to pay for the designer baby clothes to keep up with the Beckhams?
How are we going tp pay for the take-away meals every night?

It was interesting to read an article in Ireland about how much couples could save by job sharing.

You would never have made a historian, because all you do is GENERALISE!! :mad: Admittedly yes there are more and more people out there that match the description you have just given,but at the same time they are not the majority.

What about people who are under pressure to do well in their job/have decent social life/pay off bills/debts/student loans/look after a family/provide for a family! these are only a small selection, and no they are not all personal to me before you accuse me of taking things personally again. I am simply highlighting the fact that generalising, at least in this instance, is not good, clear or concise! I will say one thing, you are right about one thing, alot the pressures women feel, whatever they be, are imposed.......... by people who push for a stereotypical woman! Its just one more pressure your all adding to the list. Well done :)

[dahamsta]

If you both keep fighting like that we're gonna get more and more convinced that you're madly in love. And of course I'll have to ban you both.

adam

[Peadar]

Babysis you might be aware of people having to leave their homes in Ireland and move to Britain during the 70's/80's/90's?
This was primarily due to the poor economic situation in Ireland at that time.
The majority of households in Ireland had at most a single income.
It wasn't uncommon to have 4 or more children.
The women of the house had the strength and resourcefulness to attend to the needs of her family with incredibly modest incomes.
They had to deal with pressure that you and I may never know.
They coped as they raised the children who drove the Celtic Tiger economy we enjoy today.

These are women who can look back with pride on their achievements. It's hard to look back with pride on a career spent pushing paper around a desk and banging your head off a computer screen.


And of course I'll have to ban you both.

adam

Couldn't you just seperate us?
That way she gets the house and the kids.
I get to stay on foot.ie. :D

[Babysis]

These are women who can look back with pride on their achievements. It's hard to look back with pride on a career spent pushing paper around a desk and banging your head off a computer screen.

On adams advice Im not going to carry on talking to you about this.

(but i think you are totally wrong and there is nothing wrong with being proud of a career based in an office). Im saying no more

[anto eile]

Surely thats the same school of thought that says blokes should be real men and not take pride in their appeareance, cos if they do they must be gay :eek:

Classy?? What does it matter whether a girl is sitting enjoying a sociable drink, be it a pint or a pink thing with an umbrella in it.

cause ladette culture includes knocking back pints like men.its a turn off.thats my pint.(no pun intended)
nothing wrong with men looking after themselves.i never said there was so youre point is invalid

[Pat O' Banton]

If you both keep fighting like that we're gonna get more and more convinced that you're madly in love. And of course I'll have to ban you both.

adam

Peadar and Babysis sitting in a tree... :eek: :D

[Peadar]

Peadar and Babysis sitting in a tree... :eek: :D

... A R G U I N G :D

[Macy]

but i think you are totally wrong and there is nothing wrong with being proud of a career based in an office
Yes there is, it's crap imo. Can't believe people (of any sex) would actually argue that an office job is better than a job at home. Bizarre.

One of the things that always strikes me, whats the point in having kids if you're just going to pay childminders to bring them up? At least in the pre-school years....

[dahamsta]

Yes there is, it's crap imo. Can't believe people (of any sex) would actually argue that an office job is better than a job at home. Bizarre.Everyone's different Macy, and consequently what you like mightn't tie in with what they like. I work from home and it suits me, but I know (a lot!) of people who couldn't do it. It can be very difficult setting yourself a routine, getting up at a decent time in the morning, not taking too many breaks, etc.

I'm not a house-husband like, although the idea appeals to me, but believe me, it's not for everyone.

adam

[Peadar]

It can be very difficult setting yourself a routine, getting up at a decent time in the morning, not taking too many breaks, etc.


I think kids could see to that for you.
They're up at the crack of dawn and it's non-stop for the day then.
You'd be lucky if you got 5 minutes in the day to yourself.

[dahamsta]

They'd be in school most of the time though.

adam

[dcfcsteve]

They'd be in school most of the time though.

adam

What ?? That's outrageous - pandering to child stereotypes like that. You're such an old-fashioned un-reconstructed father figure.

They'd be much happier at home with their Lego...

:D

[dahamsta]

Hey, I'd be much happier at home with my Lego!

[eoinh]

At the moment im working from Home.

The first thing I do though is check wether there are any good films on TG4, CH4 or BBC2 during the day. :o

[sylvo]

If you both keep fighting like that we're gonna get more and more convinced that you're madly in love. And of course I'll have to ban you both.

adam


They do make a lovely couple though, i'm looking forward already to the next foot.ie meet up.

I'll have the metropolitan Police informed where we will be going, so they can lift the pair of them and so let the rest of us get on with things in peace at the first sight of trouble.

[pete]

They're up at the crack of dawn and it's non-stop for the day then.

Sure isn't it the same with your Office job?

I had to get up for work at 7.30AM last month & it was dark outside :eek:

[Macy]

Everyone's different Macy, and consequently what you like mightn't tie in with what they like. I work from home and it suits me, but I know (a lot!) of people who couldn't do it. It can be very difficult setting yourself a routine, getting up at a decent time in the morning, not taking too many breaks, etc.

I'm not a house-husband like, although the idea appeals to me, but believe me, it's not for everyone.

I did mean as a house husband, as I don't think working from home would particularly solve the problem (as in you'd still have the paid employment as well as the unpaid home stuff).

Having said that I would love to work from home, and think I'd be far more productive. Up at half six to get in for 8, crap drive into work even at that time, and by the time I'm in I'm nackered and píssed off already - not at my most productive. No reason that I couldn't do what I do from home as it's all email and phone based, but the Government have put a stop to eworking despite them being a success in every pilot :rolleyes:

Pete, imagine that, leaving the house when it's dark. It's only in the last few weeks I've had daylight on any part of my journey's too and from work... :eek:

[Kingdom]

Macy,

I know how you feel. I work on shift and this week I HAVE to be in for 8am every day (so the night shift can go home :p ).
I've to get the first train from Sallins to Heuston @ 7am and have to literally struggle to get a seat. 3 trains in so far this week and its been standing all the way. Now thats a pain in the ar$e. By the time I get into the place I feel like freaking out.

:mad:

[Jim Smith]

I actually found working from home (on the few occasions that I've organised it) harder than I thought it was going to be.

It takes a lot of discipline on your part (well maybe thats just me :( ) and you have to set boundaries for other people. i.e. no I can't nip out and do some shopping, no you can't call round and expect me to drop everything.

You need to set up a dedicated work area and have time when you are not 'available'. I'd love to do more of it but I found that if I was working from home people assumed that I was skiving off - even if I was just as productive if not more so. S I gave up and skive off in the office instead :D

[Maz]

I love wemon and respect women, Im not lieing/ but a women cant drink a pint properly/ a women cant handle as much as a man/ 1st reason because we drinkl more than ye anyway / dont take it personal/ / or else its in our jeans to handle more than ye/ i respeckt wemon more than drink so dont feel left out, the real reason we drink is to talk/think/dream about ye. But just cause we are MEN it doesnt matter cause deep down we love da lot of ye, ye *****s.

oh please women cant handle as much as a man...........by this im gonna assume you mean alcohol and i know lots of girls that can "handle" as much and more than a man!
I know some men who just sniff the wrapper of wine gums and theyre mental for the night!! :rolleyes:

[Peadar]

I know some men who just sniff the wrapper of wine gums and theyre mental for the night!! :rolleyes:

Lucky bastads! :D

[fosterdollar]

I know some men who just sniff the wrapper of wine gums and theyre mental for the night!! :rolleyes:
lucky baxtards...

[Maz]

Lucky bastads! :D

not always!! :p

[Peadar]

lucky baxtards...

Snap! ;)