Gary Rogers in Ireland squad

[Dodge]

No one is saying you're wrong, just that we don't know

FWIW being the sub keeper on a GAA team means absolutely nothing in our sport

[Charlie Darwin]

Not a wind up, i appreciate he hasn't played at senior level for a while, although he got a few games and won an All Ireland as back up with the Dubs if that counts, but as the saying goes, form is temporary class is permanent.
And Supple is class, different class to most LOI keepers. who while good are at their level, Supple was good enough to play at a clearly higher level and still has what it takes.
He played half a season for Ipswich 10 years ago before being replaced - let's not go overboard.

[KeepersBall]

True I suppose we should get our facts right, and our maths.
He last played first team for Ipswich in 2009 which is seven years ago not ten

[Charlie Darwin]

Eh, he might have played a cup match or something.

[GC13]

Makes no sense Gary Rogers in the squad as third choice, he will have two other keepers there so makes more sense to bring in a young keeper early 20's for experience and possibly the future, Shane Supple may have done well in england if he had stayed he may have developed further but he didn't, I have seen Supple with Crumlin Utd and he doesn't tick the boxes, credit he has come in at Bohs and done well however he is not at an International level. Lets be hones either is Rogers or Mark McNulty and sadly they won't because if they were they would have shown it by now! Give the younger upcoming players the opportunity, they won't play but will gain valuable experience that could stand to them moving forward!

[KeepersBall]

Makes no sense Gary Rogers in the squad as third choice, he will have two other keepers there so makes more sense to bring in a young keeper early 20's for experience and possibly the future, Shane Supple may have done well in england if he had stayed he may have developed further but he didn't, I have seen Supple with Crumlin Utd and he doesn't tick the boxes, credit he has come in at Bohs and done well however he is not at an International level. Lets be hones either is Rogers or Mark McNulty and sadly they won't because if they were they would have shown it by now! Give the younger upcoming players the opportunity, they won't play but will gain valuable experience that could stand to them moving forward!

My point wasn't that Supple should be in the international squad, he shouldn't, just that he is in my view the best LOI 'keeper around at the moment.
The standard of goalkeeping when you dip below the top five in the LOI is pretty dire, and as for the first division, only McGuinness at the Drogs and Freddy Hall at some southern team or other are good enough.
Drogs initially played Patrick Duncan in goal this season, I think two games was enough for them to realise he wasn't up to it, Athlones keepers are poor so are Cabos, especially the big fella Kelly, Shels play Jack Brady and he's okay but no more than that, certainly not a premier division goalie, Hunt at Cobh is okay as well, I haven't seen UCD or Waterford play so can't comment on their 'keepers.

[sadloserkid]

I haven't seen UCD or Waterford play so can't comment on their 'keepers.

The lad Waterford had in the other night against us was... not good.

[ciaraa]

Sava is quality. Rogers is good but old and slower now. Bred as a gah keeper too so bad habits picked up along the way.

[colonelwest]

Makes no sense Gary Rogers in the squad as third choice, he will have two other keepers there so makes more sense to bring in a young keeper early 20's for experience and possibly the future, Shane Supple may have done well in england if he had stayed he may have developed further but he didn't, I have seen Supple with Crumlin Utd and he doesn't tick the boxes, credit he has come in at Bohs and done well however he is not at an International level. Lets be hones either is Rogers or Mark McNulty and sadly they won't because if they were they would have shown it by now! Give the younger upcoming players the opportunity, they won't play but will gain valuable experience that could stand to them moving forward!


For the moment it suits as barring Elliot whose been injured there's feck all out there old or experienced enough. Stephen Henderson at Forrest maybe, Forde while a solid keeper is getting on and has lost his place at Millwall and gone on loan to Portsmouth in League two having dropped through the leagues like a stone in the past few years. We have the likes of Ian lawlor whose on loan from Man City at Bury, Kieran O'Hara at Man Utd's u21s and Liam Bossin at Anderlecht; the latter two have just come into the Irish underage setups coming through and hopefully in the next couple of years they can break through and play first team ball at a decent level and will break into the senior setup.

[Charlie Darwin]

Lawlor's not on loan, he's at Man City and injured.

[GC13]

In Premier Div certainly Supple is leading the way, Niall Corbet at UCD is a decent keeper he has developed well from the UCD u/19 set up over the last few years. would have competed with McGuinness for a starting berth with the FAI Schools Leinster team in the Interprovincial Tournaments / International Schools, McGuinness always seemed to get the nod to start, he was good at Bray played 44 league games in two seasons although last season he was injured after the first 17 and that was it for the season, doing well at the Drogs, think its 10 clean sheats ion 19 games, been getting a few write ups too. Jack Brady I agree average, Waterford have used three different keepers this season says it all. Paul Hunt was decent at Longford and has been adequate with Cobh not playing as well as he may do this season.

[GC13]

I know the 21's had games which would have tied the best two up none the less there are a few you mentioned could have had an opportunity!

[Dodge]

There was no opportunity. He was a body on the bench and in training. He seemed to have enjoyed it so no harm.

[MeathDrog]

Sava is quality. Rogers is good but old and slower now. Bred as a gah keeper too so bad habits picked up along the way.
Sava is a good shot stopper but he is by no means "quality".

[Charlie Darwin]

In Premier Div certainly Supple is leading the way
He's played five games. He might turn out to be a good keeper at this level but the idea he's leading anything is bonkers. Rogers and McNulty are the best keepers in the league by some way, followed by Clarke and Doherty.

[Nesta99]

Sava is quality. Rogers is good but old and slower now. Bred as a gah keeper too so bad habits picked up along the way.

Rogers is fitter and leaner now quite possibly than earlier in his career. He did give us the odd heart attack moments last season that he has cut out this season (cue the clanger moment now that i've said this). His concentration levels have improved too. At 34 it isnt past it as a keeper as if anything he has to have improved technique diving for example rather than throwing himself in to a dive and just hitting the deck as he probably doesnt recover as quickly post match as he would have in younger days. I'm not sure what bad habits you mean and I'm not being smart as Id be interested in what you mean as he has made more appearances for Drogheda than anyone else. He also quit GAA at 16 or 17 so has had plenty of time playing the world game. When training with Ireland as part of his coaching badges stuff one of the comments made by Martin O'Neill was on how he coped well and kept up with the rigours of the training the keepers were put through for a player that is not full-time in the strictest sense. I am not defending him with Lilywhite tinted specs just interested in the specifics of your reservations about him. I didnt see much of him earlier in his career regularly so I dont know how much slower he has become but he is certainly not slower this season compared to last season.

[Ezeikial]

Gary Rogers is a decent to good 'keeper - probably no less and no more.

While I can understand the reported interest in Brian Murphy by Dundalk, there are no other current LOI keepers that would be an obvious or significant improvement

[kksaints]

Rogers kicking is bad though. Every match when he was with us at least one goal kick went directly out of play. Kicking when it was passed back to him wasnt great either. In general there isnt much between most of the goalies in the Premier Division. Clarke is probably the best with the ball at his feet and suits our style of play the best but just makes too many mistakes to be a top goalie. Mcnulty kicking is weak from what I can recall granted I havent seem him that much. Schlingermann is decent and a good shot stopper.

[nigel-harps1954]

If only Richard Brush was Irish

[Charlie Darwin]

If only Richard Brush was Irish
Ciaran Gallagher would be called up to the interntional squad instead?

[nigel-harps1954]

Ciaran Gallagher would be called up to the interntional squad instead?

Would we be allowed to postpone games too?

[Charlie Darwin]

Would we be allowed to postpone games too?
Only if it's meant to inconvenience Dundalk but ultimately backfires.

[gufcfan]

Only if it's meant to inconvenience Dundalk but ultimately backfires.

The only thing more annoying than Stephen Kenny moaning about a fixture pileup he likely pushed to create himself is having to listen to Kenny Shields speak for any length of time.

[colonelwest]

Rogers is fitter and leaner now quite possibly than earlier in his career. He did give us the odd heart attack moments last season that he has cut out this season (cue the clanger moment now that i've said this). His concentration levels have improved too. At 34 it isnt past it as a keeper as if anything he has to have improved technique diving for example rather than throwing himself in to a dive and just hitting the deck as he probably doesnt recover as quickly post match as he would have in younger days. I'm not sure what bad habits you mean and I'm not being smart as Id be interested in what you mean as he has made more appearances for Drogheda than anyone else. He also quit GAA at 16 or 17 so has had plenty of time playing the world game. When training with Ireland as part of his coaching badges stuff one of the comments made by Martin O'Neill was on how he coped well and kept up with the rigours of the training the keepers were put through for a player that is not full-time in the strictest sense. I am not defending him with Lilywhite tinted specs just interested in the specifics of your reservations about him. I didnt see much of him earlier in his career regularly so I dont know how much slower he has become but he is certainly not slower this season compared to last season.


Any chance of tonights euromillions numbers Nesta?! :D

[nigel-harps1954]

Last night was a prime example of why Rogers is not the best goalkeeper in the league.

[red bellied]

Rodgers also made an absolute clanger when playing for Sligo Rovers against Rosenberg. He managed to flap a corner straight into the net, making the score two one on the night which probably cost Rovers the tie overall.

[GC13]

He's played five games. He might turn out to be a good keeper at this level but the idea he's leading anything is bonkers. Rogers and McNulty are the best keepers in the league by some way, followed by Clarke and Doherty.

Since coming in at Bohs he has produced better performances than any of the keepers you mentioned, very early I agree, McNulty makes some regular howlers, Rogers made one last night and against Cobh in Cup Clarke was poor. The last mentioned is better them them all - Derry City's Doherty! All based on performance - yes whether we like it or not its our current performances!

[El-Pietro]

All goalkeepers make howlers. If the new Bohs keeper hasn't its because he hasn't played enough games yet.

[jinxy lilywhite]

All goalkeepers make howlers. If the new Bohs keeper hasn't its because he hasn't played enough games yet.

Yes exactly. Everyone makes mistakes but keepers are critised more.

Is Rogers the best keeper in the league? I hope so
Would I replace him with any other keeper in the league? Nope.

[El-Pietro]

Yes exactly. Everyone makes mistakes but keepers are critised more.

Is Rogers the best keeper in the league? I hope so
Would I replace him with any other keeper in the league? Nope.
Exactly how I feel about Nults. Not much between the top keepers, and certainly not enough to justify bringing someone else in.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

He looks like an accountant.

[TonyD]

Conor O'Malley at Pats has serious potential. Another super save one on one on Saturday when we were a goal behind.and may not have recovered from. Having said that I thought he might have done better with Lynchs goal. Great talent though. His recent display against Rovers is one of the best goalkeeping performances I've seen in a long time.

[nigel-harps1954]

Another howler from Rogers tonight.

[Louth4sam]

Another howler from Rogers tonight.

People think he is the best keeper in the league, I don't even think he is the best keeper at Dundalk. He's prone to a mistake every game

[Yossarian]

In fairness to Rogers that was a woeful ball to him by Boyle.

[White Horse]

In fairness to Rogers that was a woeful ball to him by Boyle.

I just saw the replay and the ball from Boyle was worse that I recall from seeing it live at the game. I thought at the time that Rogers could have just put his foot through it, but that would have been difficult given how poor the "pass" was.

[JDsJocks]

Yeah but what kind of keeper tries to control a difficult ball like that with a striker coming fast to it. Simply is no excuses for that.

He didn't really have much else to do for the rest of the game

[nigel-harps1954]

Ball was poor but that's no excuse for the balls Rogers made of it.

[KeepersBall]

He should indeed have put his foot through it

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

In the one game I don't remember him whacking a ball straight out for a throw that's exactly what he should have done with that pass. Awful pass mind.

[oriel]

It was a dreadful back pass by Boyle, far too much weight on it, and too high also, in saying that Rogers should have done better.

In situations like that for any GK, the priority is to clear the ball only, not to play it. I also don't think Sava is a better keeper, he is there for back up only, but Rogers needs to improve, that's two big mistakes in the last two games, and both were significant in each result.

[Dodge]

I think not playing has helped Sava in some people's minds. If he was playing his shortcomings would be on show more.

I think most LOI fans have it right about Rogers. Decent enough at our level but he has howlers in him. Most of the keepers do

On the goal last night, the pass was stupid but he should have controlled it easily enough (or put his foot through it)

[Mr A]

Nothing elevates a player's stature like not quite being in the team. It's called the 'Andy Reid' effect.

[Jofspring]

To me it seemed like Rogers was being a bit it too casual. Not a great pass but certainly not bad enough that it couldn't have been cleared first time. He was also very casual in the game vs AZ where he came out and caught the ball in one hand in the air and stood there with the ball in one hand when he landed. He got a bollicking off Gartland (I think it was) and rightfully so.

[pineapple stu]

In fairness, there was no-one near him when he collected the ball, and it was a relatively easy catch. I thought catching it one-handed was kind of cool; would even have pumped up his confidence. And I think it was risk-free.

[Jofspring]

In fairness, there was no-one near him when he collected the ball, and it was a relatively easy catch. I thought catching it one-handed was kind of cool; would even have pumped up his confidence. And I think it was risk-free.

He was in he box with a load of AZ players. If he dropped it and they tapped it in it would have been a complete howler. He reduced he amount of control he had on the ball and upped the risk of dropping it.

[Ezeikial]

It's at times like this that we need Keepers Ball expert insights

[pineapple stu]

He was in he box with a load of AZ players. If he dropped it and they tapped it in it would have been a complete howler. He reduced he amount of control he had on the ball and upped the risk of dropping it.
Would be interesting to see it again, but I didn't think he was under any pressure from the AZ players. If he dropped the ball, I thought he had time to recover before anyone pounced - but I don't think there was any danger of dropping it. It turned out to be a straightforward catch, and he just turned it into one for the cameras imo. And wouldn't be the biggest Rogers fan necessarily!

[ger121]

Rogers always stands out for me, as the one player in that team who doesn't fit Kenny's philosophy. No wonder he is getting into the Ireland squad lately!

[swinfordfc]

He should not be in the Ireland squad! O'Malley or Slingermann are better than him .... and way younger!