Post Euro Possible transfers thread

[dynamo kerry]

howdy all, been a while

most likely irish players to move based on the game(s)

Lets have a ladder. We'll update it after each game:

1. Hendrick
2. Brady
3. Randolph
4. Clark
5. Coleman
6. McGeady (not necessarily to an exciting club)
7. Coleman
8. McLean
9. McCarthy

Can't see Wes moving at his age.. possible wildcard (by the way- go read early comments on the Wes thread. http://foot.ie/threads/58807-Wes-Hoolahan )

Players possibly without a club/retiring
Shay
O'Shea

Never leaving their club/would survive nuclear explosion
Whelan

[tetsujin1979]

Wes signed a one year extension to his deal at Norwich. Doubt he'll go anywhere to be honest, but a move to MLS is possible

[eitoof]

howdy all, been a while

most likely irish players to move based on the game(s)

Lets have a ladder. We'll update it after each game:

1. Hendrick
2. Brady
3. Randolph
4. Clark
5. Coleman
6. McGeady (not necessarily to an exciting club)
7. Coleman


"There's only two Seamus Colemans, two Seamus Colemans"

[CraftyToePoke]

"There's only two Seamus Colemans, two Seamus Colemans"

So good they sold him twice.

[dynamo kerry]

updated Ladder

1. Brady
2. Hendrick
3. Hoolahan (possible)
4. Coleman
5. Randolph
6. Mccarthy
7. McGeady
8. Duffy
9. Clark

brady and hendrick the big likely movers...(in my opinion)

[BonnieShels]

So good they sold him twice.

Did he ever play for Bohs?

:)

[Olé Olé]

As I've said, Brady clearly is a PL player but if you're a manager looking to buy a player, are you getting an LB, LM or CM? Versatility is huge too, if suitors want it.

Hendrick is looking so good at the moment. In his post-match interview, Tardelli's comments that he was good enough to play in Serie A were put to him. He responded (something like) "Well, if he gets a job there he can try sign me." It was very funny. He's a lovely age profile at 24. I hope he gets a good move.

Would be interesting to see if either attracted interest further afield than England. Like Gary Breen in 2002.

Duffy was good last night too. One dreadful back pass to Randolph but a corner was the most damage that was ever going to come from it. If he starts against France and does decently then I'm sure he's a target for some PL sides needing a beast in there. Seems a great lad too.

[Razors left peg]

Brady and Hendrick are far too good for Championship. If they were English there would be talk of a +20 Million move.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

It's been so enjoyable to watch Hendrick in this tournament, well against Sweden and Italy. Such a confident player.

And to think he could have been sat on the bench if Arter was included in the squad.

[tetsujin1979]

It's been so enjoyable to watch Hendrick in this tournament, well against Sweden and Italy. Such a confident player.

And to think he could have been sat on the bench if Arter was included in the squad.
Or he could have played beside him. Or Arter could have been a substitute. Or Meyler might not be there. Or any one of the other infinite possibilities.

[DeLorean]

I'd follow some Derby fan groups on Facebook, etc. and their supporters invariably leave Hendrick out of their preferred XI's. Most people picking their various Ireland teams on here leave him out too, as well as the media, or at least have done up until now. There's no way O'Neill was ever leaving him out though, there was nothing at all to suggest he would based on the qualifiers.

I've always been a huge fan but it would be misleading to say this tournament is representative of his consistency at club level, he's upped it a few notches in terms of his confidence on the ball and his aggression. He's running with the ball a lot more, taking a lot more touches in a good way. It's a brilliant sign that he can deliver when the stakes get higher though. I suspect PL managers and scouts are going to look at far more than his Euro heroics though before splashing the cash.

He has made some references recently about the possibility of leaving Derby, for the first time as far as I know, but I'm kind of expecting him to stay there all the same, maybe an improved deal could be in the offering. He's surely impressed Nigel Pearson enough that he won't let him go too easily. Anyway, Paul O'Shea says he's not Premier League quality, he'd be there already if he was, so enough of this nonsense. :)

[Kingdom]

Maybe some of our players will look to Europe seeing how their exploits in European football for us, outweigh their exploits in England (in the main).

Danny Murphy (who I like in the main on the Beeb) was lamenting last weekend about never playing on the continent, and realised too late in his career that it would have suited his style better. I think a number of our players would benefit from playing abroad. It disheartens me to have jack byrne is going from on loan at cambuur to on loan at Blackburn.

[Olé Olé]

I'd follow some Derby fan groups on Facebook, etc. and their supporters invariably leave Hendrick out of their preferred XI's. Most people picking their various Ireland teams on here leave him out too, as well as the media, or at least have done up until now. There's no way O'Neill was ever leaving him out though, there was nothing at all to suggest he would based on the qualifiers.

I've always been a huge fan but it would be misleading to say this tournament is representative of his consistency at club level, he's upped it a few notches in terms of his confidence on the ball and his aggression. He's running with the ball a lot more, taking a lot more touches in a good way. It's a brilliant sign that he can deliver when the stakes get higher though. I suspect PL managers and scouts are going to look at far more than his Euro heroics though before splashing the cash.

He has made some references recently about the possibility of leaving Derby, for the first time as far as I know, but I'm kind of expecting him to stay there all the same, maybe an improved deal could be in the offering. He's surely impressed Nigel Pearson enough that he won't let him go too easily. Anyway, Paul O'Shea says he's not Premier League quality, he'd be there already if he was, so enough of this nonsense. :)

I agree with you. The confidence on the ball was never as obvious at it has been over the last 3 matches.

I have a theory on this myself. At Derby, he never got a run over matches in the past season. He even said he grew his hair long because he spent so much time not putting back-to-back starts together the other night after the Italy match. That can't be good for a young player's confidence.

However, one man who has shown real confidence in him and who is known for inspiring players is Martin O'Neill. The past month or so has seen Hendrick spend more time in Martin O'Neill's company and coaching sessions than he ever has before. And, lo' and behold, Hendrick is dribbling forward, passing forward and having shots from distance.

[SkStu]

given the Brexit, I am wondering what the impact on the free movement of players etc will be? While I don't see a return to the limitations of the late 80s and early 90s that saw us miss out on the likes of Bruce and Keown and some others, gan dabht, maybe a larger chunk of our players will move to Europe due to the ease of movement etc etc...

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/brexit-vote-what-does-it-mean-for-sport-1.2697990

[tetsujin1979]

Saw a post earlier that British clubs won't be able to sign players under the age of 18 anymore, not sure how accurate that is

[tetsujin1979]

the42 on the Irish players that have put themselves in the shop window in the tournament so far: http://www.the42.ie/irish-players-transfers-euro-2016-2844050-Jun2016/

[sadloserkid]

At Derby, he never got a run over matches in the past season. He even said he grew his hair long because he spent so much time not putting back-to-back starts together the other night after the Italy match. That can't be good for a young player's confidence.

Wait... why did he grow his hair long? Am I missing something obvious or does that really make no sense at all? :confused:

[DeLorean]

It was a bit of a stop-start season for him but I doubt his confidence would have been affected too much really. Like the 42.ie mention, Clement was looking for his best side and learning on the job a bit. Hendrick was always used from the bench whenever he didn't start, it's not like he was frozen out or forgotten about. He probably got a bit of a raw deal as Clement probably felt obliged to try to integrate the players he spent the club's money on. Once he got the boot Hendrick was straight back in under Wassall until his injury.

I don't want to take anything away from O'Neill as his faith in Hendrick throughout the qualifiers has obviously reaped huge dividends, but I'm not sure having him for the past few weeks is directly related to the way Hendrick is playing now. Maybe it is but it should be remembered he was immense in the playoff second leg at Hull also, so it could be just a very timely rich vein of form.

[Olé Olé]

Wait... why did he grow his hair long? Am I missing something obvious or does that really make no sense at all? :confused:

In an interview after the Italy game, he stated that he started growing his hair in September 2015 and would not stop growing it until he started two games in a row. He said he eventually got back-to-back starts in February but liked it long so kept growing. Does that make sense?

My point is that it must really have played on his mind that his manager was unwilling to give him back-to-back starts.

[Olé Olé]

It was a bit of a stop-start season for him but I doubt his confidence would have been affected too much really. Like the 42.ie mention, Clement was looking for his best side and learning on the job a bit. Hendrick was always used from the bench whenever he didn't start, it's not like he was frozen out or forgotten about. He probably got a bit of a raw deal as Clement probably felt obliged to try to integrate the players he spent the club's money on. Once he got the boot Hendrick was straight back in under Wassall until his injury.

I don't want to take anything away from O'Neill as his faith in Hendrick throughout the qualifiers has obviously reaped huge dividends, but I'm not sure having him for the past few weeks is directly related to the way Hendrick is playing now. Maybe it is but it should be remembered he was immense in the playoff second leg at Hull also, so it could be just a very timely rich vein of form.

It should also be remembered how absolutely terrible he was against Belarus in Turner's Cross. That came after Hull and before the Euros.

[Olé Olé]

Randolph, Brady and Hendrick demonstrated again today that they can be really good, top-level players. Any PL manager (or top-tier European manager) would do well to have sat up and noticed that. I think and hope that they have an interesting few weeks ahead of them because they could all do with changes of scenery (unless Bilic rings up Randolph and tells him he is his number 1).

[DeLorean]

In an interview after the Italy game, he stated that he started growing his hair in September 2015 and would not stop growing it until he started two games in a row. He said he eventually got back-to-back starts in February but liked it long so kept growing. Does that make sense?

My point is that it must really have played on his mind that his manager was unwilling to give him back-to-back starts.

Jeffrey is talking out of his arse so because he got consecutive starts on numerous occasions in that period.


It should also be remembered how absolutely terrible he was against Belarus in Turner's Cross. That came after Hull and before the Euros.

I don't agree that he was terrible. He looked a bit rusty but kept showing, although little came off for him. It was a completely disjointed performance generally anyway from a team thrown together, so I'd pay more attention to the playoff game as an indicator of the form he was in. A lot of people on here thought he was absolutely terrible against Belgium too so it's all fairly subjective I guess.

[Stuttgart88]

Brady linked to Leicester again (BBC, citing Leicester Mercury)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/gossip

[CraftyToePoke]

Leicester Mercury has is at the discussions stage
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/leicester-city-transfer-news-city-in-talks-with-ireland-and-norwich-star-robbie-brady/story-29445838-detail/story.html

[dynamo kerry]

My updated ladder - again based on my opinion (formed from looking at news articles on players in question)

1. Brady
2. Hendrick
3. Duffy
4. Coleman
5. Randolph
6. CLark
7. Mcgeady
8. Mcclean
9. Mccarthy

[Fixer82]

Hoolahan too old to get a transfer?

[dynamo kerry]

really removed him because of age, the contract extension, he's been at Norwich a long time and also partly because as the tournament went on his influence waned. It's not a negative comment by me at all but I don't see there been a massive fuss around him possibly moving now..

[Olé Olé]

My updated ladder - again based on my opinion (formed from looking at news articles on players in question)

1. Brady
2. Hendrick
3. Duffy
4. Coleman
5. Randolph
6. CLark
7. Mcgeady
8. Mcclean
9. Mccarthy

Of the top 5, I'd say 4 need a move. I think Coleman is at a good club with good potential now they have financial backing. But I think he has showed how much better he is than so many right backs in this competition. He gave an absolute master class on Payet in the first half against France.

[Stuttgart88]

There's a lot of talk of Hector Bellerin going back to Barcelona. Not that Wenger would sign an Irish player though.

[paul_oshea]

I'm still not convinced on duffy. He was under no pressure against italy. Against Holland under a high ball he got arse about face. We were beaten by another cross this time against France. He was very erratic in the game it wasn't just a one off. Still open on him but I definitely don't think he has done enough to gain a move more a "we'll see how he does for another year or two in the championship" at which point he is then 25 and will definitely need to move.

[SkStu]

Hendrick being chased by Everton, Bournemouth and Crystal Palace according to the back pages.

http://www.90min.com/posts/3389295-premier-league-transfer-rumours-sanchez-pogba-alli-and-more?ref=1&team=everton&utm_campaign=Everton&utm_medium=fan_pages&utm_source=facebook.com.html

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Hendrick being chased by Everton, Bournemouth and Crystal Palace according to the back pages.

http://www.90min.com/posts/3389295-premier-league-transfer-rumours-sanchez-pogba-alli-and-more?ref=1&team=everton&utm_campaign=Everton&utm_medium=fan_pages&utm_source=facebook.com.html

Also linked with Galatasaray, who scouted him earlier in the season.

Brady to Leicester rumours intensifying.

[jbyrne]

I'm still not convinced on duffy

still?? at least give the lad more than a handful of games to prove himself

[Stuttgart88]

Celtic fan beside me at work saying they are looking at Shane Duffy. Probably chatboard rumour rather than anything else.

[Olé Olé]

Celtic fan beside me at work saying they are looking at Shane Duffy. Probably chatboard rumour rather than anything else.

Wouldn't be a bad move for him. They've signed a cracking prospect of a striker (Dembele), I like the manager (Rodgers), Champions League, the rise of Virgil Van Dijk and his aul man is from Donegal so there's a friendly face or two knocking around there.

[MeathDrog]

Wouldn't be a bad move for him. They've signed a cracking prospect of a striker (Dembele), I like the manager (Rodgers), Champions League, the rise of Virgil Van Dijk and his aul man is from Donegal so there's a friendly face or two knocking around there.
He'd be playing against a lower standard than he is right now. Would be a backwards move at this stage of his career.

[Olé Olé]

He'd be playing against a lower standard than he is right now. Would be a backwards move at this stage of his career.

But he'd have CL football and Virgil Van Dijk did okay out of playing there. I think those points are valid and that's why I made them.

[MeathDrog]

But he'd have CL football and Virgil Van Dijk did okay out of playing there. I think those points are valid and that's why I made them.
It's a big assumption to make that Celtic will make the group stages..

[DeLorean]

It is to be fair. And for all the noise about their 'world class' managerial appointment, he's not exactly known for taking defenders to the next level.

[paul_oshea]

still?? at least give the lad more than a handful of games to prove himself

What? Have you not seen him at Blackburn? :8

[dynamo kerry]

Last Ladder I did at end of our Euros with current status:

1. Brady - seems to be staying unless something happens very quickly
2. Hendrick - Off to Hull
3. Duffy - Moved to Brighton
4. Coleman - staying put
5. Randolph - staying put/new contract
6. CLark - Moved to Newcastle
7. Mcgeady - ????
8. Mcclean - staying put
9. Mccarthy - Celtic? Koeman seems to want to keep him for now at least

New Entry
Murphy - Newcastle

I still wonder will someone go for Brady at the last minute. Also, despite Koeman's comments if someone offers them 10M I think they'll let Mccarthy go...

[Colbert Report]

What is the word on Aiden McGeady - how much longer does he have left on his Everton contract?

[DeLorean]

He signed a four and a half year deal in January 2014, so basically two years remaining.

[Colbert Report]

He's probably in no great hurry to sort a move out then. Perhaps he can work his way back into the squad.

[OwlsFan]

Last Ladder I did at end of our Euros with current status:

1. Brady - seems to be staying unless something happens very quickly
2. Hendrick - Off to Hull
3. Duffy - Moved to Brighton
4. Coleman - staying put
5. Randolph - staying put/new contract
6. CLark - Moved to Newcastle
7. Mcgeady - ????
8. Mcclean - staying put
9. Mccarthy - Celtic? Koeman seems to want to keep him for now at least

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Murphy - Newcastle

I still wonder will someone go for Brady at the last minute. Also, despite Koeman's comments if someone offers them 10M I think they'll let Mccarthy go...

Don't forget Judge's proposed move to Newcastle. Staying put for the moment but may move in January if and when he hopefully recovers from the broken leg.

[DeLorean]

I think the list was based on potential transfers of those who got game time at the Euros.

[paul_oshea]

He's probably in no great hurry to sort a move out then. Perhaps he can work his way back into the squad.

Are you Charlie, Are....in disguise? :rolleyes:

[dynamo kerry]

I think the list was based on potential transfers of those who got game time at the Euros.

it was. For some it certainly precipitated a move. I think it's fair to say there are other factors such as management changes (Everton), injuries, age, new contracts

Brady not moving would be a shame. But I guess he thinks he can do a job at Norwich.

Coleman may now never get the top 4 move I think he deserves and is possibly hoping Everton step it up. At his age I kinda think it's not going to happen now at another big club.

McGeady is the other disappointment - really needs to go..

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I can honestly see Coleman getting dropped by Koeman this season after he comes back. I just have a feeling he will.

He's another lad, like Given, or even Dunne in his later years, who could have done a job for a team like Arsenal at some point but was probably hindered by being Irish.

I find it amazing that Wenger has never showed interest in any of those players in twenty years of managing in the Premier League considering some of the tosh he has bought, and considering he doesn't like spending exorbitantly.

For that matter Keane, and perhaps even Doyle or Long, probably would've done a job for Arsenal at some point.

Keane has played a few blinders against Arsenal in the past.

[paul_oshea]

It's an interesting point, Keane couldn't have been anymore inconsistent than Giroud, and certainly was just as pacey...