The 'Kenny Shiels is quite the interesting character' thread.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

As opposed to sticking a new name on Tallaght Town you mean ? Oh, and thanks for disproving the 'hoovering up other clubs players' in your last sentence. Ashfield College ? if only UCD had ever thought of providing scholarships... oh wait. but.....but shams is different :rolleyes:
for the record I wasn't having a go at shams, any development for underage players is to be welcomed I was laughing at the way they think its something new - not unlike trailing around 'advising' clubs on a members owned model after they 'discovered' the concept .Hopefully this experiment lasts longer than that one did.

A full merger is a completely different thing to the deal Bohs have with Kevin's. Rovers have similar deals to the one Bohs have with Kevin's with Templeogue, Lucan United, Corduff F.C. and Kildare District Underage League but you don't see their crests on the national league teams kits. Even at that those deals differ in that these are effectively feeder clubs whereas Bohs team is just Kevins under a slightly different name.

Well the Rovers scholarships are second level UCD's are third level so yeah pretty different :rolleyes:

[sbgawa]

Hey RH go easy on him he's a bohs fan , how's he supposed to know what 3rd level is ?

[Dalymountrower]

Hey RH go easy on him he's a bohs fan , how's he supposed to know what 3rd level is ?
All we need now is for the cavalry to arrive and Eat Your Greens to opine on the stellar quality of the humour.

[marinobohs]

Hey RH go easy on him he's a bohs fan , how's he supposed to know what 3rd level is ?
Rivers fans get lost before 2nd level. What's 4% of something ?

[Charlie Darwin]

You're all ruining the Kenny Shiels is mental thread.

[Ezeikial]

According to KS "Derry are quite similar to Dundalk in the way they play"

Has he completely flipped or is he even aware of the number of goals they concede?

[bohsmug]

Maybe he means Dundalk in Europe?

[marinobohs]

According to KS "Derry are quite similar to Dundalk in the way they play"

Has he completely flipped or is he even aware of the number of goals they concede?

11 players ? 1 goal keeper ? all on the pitch trying to kick the ball ? sure, they are near identical :cool:

[brendy_éire]

According to KS "Derry are quite similar to Dundalk in the way they play"

Has he completely flipped or is he even aware of the number of goals they concede?

I actually agree with him on that one.
We do (try to) play football in roughly the same style as Dundalk. We're just not very good at it, that's all.

[DCWA]

KS was playing Football Manager and hit the “storm out” button in this interview with Radio Foyle

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/45942754

Does not come across well there at all. Bizarre responses and frankly his “well done Einstein” comment to a journalist asking what were really quite simple questions was pathetic.

[brendy_éire]

Does not come across well there at all. Bizarre responses and frankly his “well done Einstein” comment to a journalist asking what were really quite simple questions was pathetic.

Has to be gone.

I get that he's under pressure, and has always come across as a genuinely nice fella any time I've met him, but it's not on to speak to the media (and by extension, the fans) like that.

[sbgawa]

To be fair too him the journalist could have ansewered "they aren't here because of money" much earlier and him refusing to say it was clearly ****ing off KS as it implied that the reason the players weren't there was because of KS.

I'd say his goose is cooked, the Chairman made a show of him a month or so ago when criticising his recruitment and now he is saying the reason he cant sign good players is because the same guy wont give him the money.

The Kenny Sheils is interesting thread will be pretty quiet next year unless a vacancy comes up elsewhere and the poor finish to the league by Derry won't help his CV...............tbf he won the EA cup

[brendy_éire]

To be fair too him the journalist could have ansewered "they aren't here because of money" much earlier and him refusing to say it was clearly ****ing off KS as it implied that the reason the players weren't there was because of KS.

It's not the job of a journalist to explain our league position, or to answer his own questions. The reason it's just money either, we've spent feckloads of guff this season, whilst younger Derry lads have been shipped off to other clubs.

Reporter on BBC Radio Foyle talking about the now.

[DCWA]

To be fair too him the journalist could have ansewered "they aren't here because of money" much earlier and him refusing to say it was clearly ****ing off KS as it implied that the reason the players weren't there was because of KS.

I'd say his goose is cooked, the Chairman made a show of him a month or so ago when criticising his recruitment and now he is saying the reason he cant sign good players is because the same guy wont give him the money.

The Kenny Sheils is interesting thread will be pretty quiet next year unless a vacancy comes up elsewhere and the poor finish to the league by Derry won't help his CV...............tbf he won the EA cup

Yeah I thought the interviewer was notably hesitant to answer the question as well so fair enough in that regard.

You are probably right on all counts (as indeed is Brendy) and I would be surprised to see him at the club for much longer.

I must say until this season it was hard to fault him but it has went downhill rapidly. 2 out of 3 good years and the League Cup in his worst season is not all that bad and he was dignity and class personified when representing the club after the death of Ryan McBride so I do hope assuming he does leave he is given the respect he has earned from the club and fans, something he often hasn’t got I feel.

I was surprised he didn’t go for the Coleraine job as it would have been a good role at a good time and would’ve been a perfect “out” for him.

[Jack B]

"Well done Einstein" is a hilariously throwback comment in 2018.

I quite like Kenny Shiels although I think he'd drive me mad if he actually managed a team I supported. Mostly comes across well if a bit...eccentric when trying to forge a siege mentality, and tries to get his team playing decent football, though as we learned last season any team that's trying to play out from the back with Gavin Peers has probably had a bit of a misstep on the recruitment front.

[sbgawa]

considering he likes to play football , would he be not make a potential Pats manager?
I'm not joking btw,

[Mr A]

Once you go into territory where you are talking about the 'football people' being behind you are in dodgy territory.

[Mr A]

According to KS "Derry are quite similar to Dundalk in the way they play"

Has he completely flipped or is he even aware of the number of goals they concede?

Well both have similar numbers of Derrymen. Although Dundalk are better at holding on to them.

[Jack B]

considering he likes to play football , would he be not make a potential Pats manager?
I'm not joking btw,

This crossed my mind but I think it might be a bit late in the day for it. Pats are playing it quite close to their chest but they seem to be well into the process of speaking to the possible candidates.

[Nesta99]

He is trying to do the right things at the wrong time. Shiels himself often spoke about having a team of young inexperienced lads but then sends them out playing high risk tactics. If confidence is low after a hammering it isnt the wisest thing to play every ball out short from the back. I was of the opinion that he was more an eccentric character but thinking back to the allegations of sectarianism in Cork, recent ramblings about not being like Dundalk, Stephen Kenny only ever buying players then naming specific player that were young player who got their break under S. Kenny,to saying they are like Dundalk. Signing players and spending 100k releasing them but then alluding to not having enough money, throwing 'journalists' out of a press conference, storming off in the above interview and so on. He is all over the shop!

If he hadnt handled the loss of Ryan McBride so well and and that Derry were away from the Brandywell last season, for footballing reasons I think he could have been out of the job before now. When the chairman was so public in some pretty scathing criticism it was just seeing out the season by the looks of it. He is not a bad manager just a bit unhinged lol. He would probably do quite well with tweaking an established squad like St Pats or improve Sligo. But building a team he is far too scattergun - sign lots of players and some of them will be good enough and the rest are padding or cut loose.

Having said all that Derry have fallen in to the cycle of hiring and firing managers (4 in 7 years? Devine, Hutton, Collins, Sheils and whomever might replace him) and are trying to break that cycle and have stuck by Sheils. The chairman and board havent been that up to scratch themselves. The Derry team that played in Oriel under Devine was very good and then not long after the Roddy Collins side was one of the worst Derry sides Ive ever seen. Maybe i'm wrong about the team Devine had but they were solid 3rd or 4th then and could have kicked on so was he fired too quickly Derry fans?
When you look at the Derry players plying their trade at so many other clubs, particularly the younger lads, there is a serious issue with player retention, probably due to managerial change and wanting their own players in each time but what a homegrown team Derry could have! Again Derry fans will know if Im off the mark but it seems like a complete rebuild job each time they've appointed a new manager and a couple of years later the same again. Considering that maybe Sheils should get another season and a chance to address his defensive issues (himself and his team) as as an attacking side they are good. Who knows....

[Ezeikial]

Kenny Shiels says he will be Derry boss next season

https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/45999503?ns_campaign=bbc_sport_ni&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=northern_ireland

[sbgawa]

The thread survives to fight again !

[sbgawa]

The thread survives :)

[osarusan]

Derry City FB page saying he is gone:


Derry City F.C. and Kenny Shiels have decided to part company as of today.

We acknowledge Kenny’s contribution to the Football Club over the past three seasons, one of which was particularly difficult.

We wish Kenny the best for the future.

The club will make no further comment on the issue.

Philip O’Doherty,

Chairman, Derry City Football Club

There is a link to the statement on their website, but the link doesn't work (for me at least).

[White Horse]

No! Football as we know it is finished.

[pineapple stu]

Released with the speed of a decision made months ago.

[sbgawa]

The thread survives :)

The thread dies ...........that was quick

[Ezeikial]

We might never meet the likes of him again

[nigel-harps1954]

Lock the thread. RIP in piece.

[ger121]

This thread now gone to the ex Managers forum in the sky,to join such alumni as Blackie Connors, Rico, Nutsy et al

[Martinho II]

heard it on the goals roundup on bbc northern ireland.. he was good for them in the first season but rapidly went downhill after that. bet ya his son will leave also. wonder who will go for this job now?

[marinobohs]

This thread now gone to the ex Managers forum in the sky,to join such alumni as Blackie Connors, Rico, Nutsy et al

he will arise in rumour - to scare any club thinking of sacking their manager 😳