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Dalymountrower
30/10/2015, 11:40 AM
Celebrating Unglamourous clubs, number 3 on the list our very own Limerick FC

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/oct/30/the-joy-of-six-unglamorous-football-clubs

That's a brilliant piece, can almost smell the Bovril.

PartySaint
30/10/2015, 11:45 AM
That's a brilliant piece, can almost smell the Bovril.

Thanks, I copy and pasted the link myself.

Nesta99
30/10/2015, 1:12 PM
All the other PD clubs have had reincarnations of one sort or another down through the years.

When you put it like that it sounds like an unusual thing. Sporting financial behomoths like Chelsea, Man City and United etc have all changed or 'reincarnated' due t a business market. It isnt remotely similar to a club liquidating due to financial and then relaunching; Fans may cling to the belief that clubs that are financial fails are one and the same as an original entity but are also deluded. Glasgow Rangers FC are not the same as the current Rangers FC, for example, even if the newco has purchased the name of the defunct club much like Cork City!

Gretna that Derry hammered no longer exist even if there was a Gretna in the Highlands division 4 b league currently. Comparing sour grapes with bananas!

ThePrisoner
30/10/2015, 2:08 PM
When you put it like that it sounds like an unusual thing. Sporting financial behomoths like Chelsea, Man City and United etc have all changed or 'reincarnated' due t a business market. It isnt remotely similar to a club liquidating due to financial and then relaunching; Fans may cling to the belief that clubs that are financial fails are one and the same as an original entity but are also deluded. Glasgow Rangers FC are not the same as the current Rangers FC, for example, even if the newco has purchased the name of the defunct club much like Cork City!

Gretna that Derry hammered no longer exist even if there was a Gretna in the Highlands division 4 b league currently. Comparing sour grapes with bananas!

Ok, maybe reincarnations was not the correct word, and I take the point you're making. Off the top of my head a number of the current PD clubs have been run by companies that no longer exist, whether by liquidation or otherwise eg Pat's, Drogheda, Cork come to mind as clubs that were liquidated at one point. The current company that operates Shams was set up in 1996 and went into examinership (ie went bust for want of a better expression) in 2005. So what happened to the entity that operated Shams prior to 1996? Who cares?

My post was to counter the argument that most/all clubs have folded at some point due to financial difficulties in their LOI career - Bray Wanders being the exception. The club has been operated by the same company since entry to the LOI in 1985. Who or what that operated Bohs between 1890 and 1934, god knows!

Dalymountrower
30/10/2015, 3:07 PM
Ok, . Who or what that operated Bohs between 1890 and 1934, god knows!

According to Rovers fans , a committee made up of Lord Kitchener, General Maxwell, Ayn Rand and William Martin Murphy.

ThePrisoner
30/10/2015, 3:10 PM
According to Rovers fans , a committee made up of Lord Kitchener, General Maxwell, Ayn Rand and William Martin Murphy.

So Bohs were by a Kerryman

L.T.F.C.
30/10/2015, 5:10 PM
Looking at the current PD clubs, the only club that fits the bill is Bray Wanders. The company was formed on 30/7/85 just prior to their entry into the LOI. Bohs are a close second with the company being formed on 31/7/34. All the other PD clubs have had reincarnations of one sort or another down through the years.

Have we?

Longfordian
30/10/2015, 7:43 PM
Not a reincarnation as such but Longford Town Football Club Limited was formed when we joined LOI I think and it still exists and owns the ground today but a separate company holds the FAI Licence. It was all under the one company until about 2008 or so I think.

Martinho II
31/10/2015, 8:47 PM
Not a reincarnation as such but Longford Town Football Club Limited was formed when we joined LOI I think and it still exists and owns the ground today but a separate company holds the FAI Licence. It was all under the one company until about 2008 or so I think.

probably 2009 as there has being no AGM since Sorbo got onto town committee that year!

PartySaint
04/11/2015, 3:34 PM
Limerick got a mention last week, it's Dundalks turn this week

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/04/the-knowledge-footballs-most-successful-towns

White Horse
04/11/2015, 3:41 PM
Limerick got a mention last week, it's Dundalks turn this week

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/04/the-knowledge-footballs-most-successful-towns


You own club too.

“St Patrick’s Athletic just won the 2015 League of Ireland Cup without beating a league team,” writes Sean DeLoughrey “They received a bye in the first round, beat non-league Crumlin United 4-1 in the second round (yes, the League of Ireland Cup includes a small number of invited non-league teams), then beat Cork City, Shamrock Rovers and Galway, each on penalties. Winning a League Cup without beating a league team must be a first?”

PartySaint
04/11/2015, 3:57 PM
You own club too.

“St Patrick’s Athletic just won the 2015 League of Ireland Cup without beating a league team,” writes Sean DeLoughrey “They received a bye in the first round, beat non-league Crumlin United 4-1 in the second round (yes, the League of Ireland Cup includes a small number of invited non-league teams), then beat Cork City, Shamrock Rovers and Galway, each on penalties. Winning a League Cup without beating a league team must be a first?”

Ah great, I stopped reading after the Duundalk bit.

outspoken
05/11/2015, 4:18 PM
probably 2009 as there has being no AGM since Sorbo got onto town committee that year!

Why are you so against AGM's Sorbo Haha 😂

SkStu
06/11/2015, 3:06 AM
Another piece celebrating the Bohemian experience.

http://www.babagol.net/2015/11/a-bohemian-experience.html?m=1

L.T.F.C.
06/11/2015, 9:41 AM
You own club too.

“St Patrick’s Athletic just won the 2015 League of Ireland Cup without beating a league team,” writes Sean DeLoughrey “They received a bye in the first round, beat non-league Crumlin United 4-1 in the second round (yes, the League of Ireland Cup includes a small number of invited non-league teams), then beat Cork City, Shamrock Rovers and Galway, each on penalties. Winning a League Cup without beating a league team must be a first?”
Town did it on the way to the FAI Cup final in 2004 I think!

Sorry that was actually us not beating anyone without a replay required.

sorbothegreek
06/11/2015, 10:32 AM
Why are you so against AGM's Sorbo Haha ��

never, NEVER...

Philosophizer
16/11/2015, 12:55 PM
Best grounds in the League are without any shadow of a doubt Tallght & Turners cross.
If Tallaght stadium had the 2 ends finished it would be best ground without any argument in the league

To bring this thread back on topic: Tallaght is the most uniformed and best-looking ground in the league (even with the open ends) but the fact that the stands are so far from the side-line will always kill it. I know they’re building a 3rd stand next year, but even if it becomes fully enclosed some day, the distance from the main stands to the pitch is just painful.
As many have said before, Richmond is my favourite. It’s a proper traditional ground. Low roof on main stand which helps atmosphere, terracing for the lads who prefer to stand, good views from everywhere, but most importantly it’s really tight, so you’re v close to the pitch no matter what stand you’re in. Also a bonus that they can open all 4 sides if the crowd is big enough. The only downside imo is the ugly shed covering half of one end. If they could get rid of that and maybe replace it with something that covers that whole end (even a tarp roof like they have in Bray) it would be perfect for me.
The 1 stand in Athlone is lovely. Longford is a great ground – just a pity they didn’t fully enclose it when they were building it. At Bohs the Jodi is brilliant – I just hope the stands are tight to the pitch after the redevelopment, but I’m fearing it could end up like Tallaght. Tolka used to be great with the stands so close to the pitch. Now it’s in a terrible state of disrepair.

pineapple stu
18/11/2015, 10:58 AM
To bring this thread back on topic: Tallaght is the most uniformed and best-looking ground in the league (even with the open ends)
I don't agree with that. The seating pattern will always ruin that ground aesthetically; absolute idiots to have done it up the way they did.

Don't think the top ground in the league can be one with both ends exposed either. Turner's Cross way ahead in that regard. Stands at one end have really improved Richmond and the Showgrounds as well in recent years.

Philosophizer
18/11/2015, 11:51 AM
Well i wasn't saying that Rover's is the top ground in the league. That would be Turners Cross all day. My point is that due to it's uniformity and symmetry it is, for want of a better word, the prettiest.

The seating pattern will always ruin that ground aesthetically; absolute idiots to have done it up the way they did.
I'm guessing you're talking about the chunks of different coloured seats. While i admit that it certainly looks a bit odd, and was clearly the result of a hap-hazard last minute dash to install seating, i don't think it detracts too much from the stadium overall, but that's just my opinion.

pineapple stu
18/11/2015, 11:59 AM
No, i know you were talking about prettiest ground - I just disagree because the seats are an eyesore. Whoever did that should be severely beaten.

As a ground, it's grand like; just it's not the best-looking one.

In my opinion.

Charlie Darwin
18/11/2015, 12:02 PM
I'm guessing you're talking about the chunks of different coloured seats. While i admit that it certainly looks a bit odd, and was clearly the result of a hap-hazard last minute dash to install seating, i don't think it detracts too much from the stadium overall, but that's just my opinion.
No, it was planned that way.

pineapple stu
18/11/2015, 12:06 PM
Wasn't it some jobsbody councillor who decided a regular green and white pattern would make it too much like Rovers' ground, when it's the Council's ground?

That, and some (Dutch?) team who have multi-coloured seats so the ground always looks fuller than it is - except in that ground, it works because the colours are in batches of one to look like people, whereas Rovers' ground looks like some 6-year-old built it with lego.

Charlie Darwin
18/11/2015, 12:16 PM
Wasn't it some jobsbody councillor who decided a regular green and white pattern would make it too much like Rovers' ground, when it's the Council's ground?

That, and some (Dutch?) team who have multi-coloured seats so the ground always looks fuller than it is - except in that ground, it works because the colours are in batches of one to look like people, whereas Rovers' ground looks like some 6-year-old built it with lego.
No, lots of grounds have the multicoloured pattern for the reasons you say. It clearly doesn't work in Tallaght, mind.

Philosophizer
18/11/2015, 12:23 PM
No, it was planned that way.

Interesting. I always presumed it was a result of a mad rush to install seats before the Real Madrid match or something and they were the only seats they could get their hands on.
Any ideas why they chose red, yellow and white seats at the ends of the stands rather than other colours. Was this in anticipation that Pats may ground-share some day?

oriel
18/11/2015, 12:23 PM
Turners Cross for me, in my view head and shoulders above the rest, with only Tallaght coming close. Galway is decent, Sligo too, Tolka was great once, Pats is tidy, Dalymount has potential, our place is beyond comment, needs so much done to it, and hopefully some improvements can start over the winter.

TC is one of the 'proper football grounds' I had the pleasure of visiting only once, back in April, brilliant atmosphere also, and to be fair it wouldn't look out of place in League 1 or SPL.

Charlie Darwin
18/11/2015, 12:27 PM
Interesting. I always presumed it was a result of a mad rush to install seats before the Real Madrid match or something and they were the only seats they could get their hands on.
Any ideas why they chose red, yellow and white seats at the ends of the stands rather than other colours. Was this in anticipation that Pats may ground-share some day?
No idea, probably because they were the cheapest. There's no pattern to it at all. Doubt it has anything to do with Pats.

pineapple stu
18/11/2015, 12:34 PM
Article on it here (https://macdaraferris.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/take-a-seat/) from back at the time.

Thomond Park has multi-coloured seating as well actually - but it works quite well.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Thomond_Park.jpg

Edit - Sporting Lisbon is the "Dutch" side I was thinking of -

http://www.stadiumguide.com/wp-content/gallery/alvalade/alvalade1.jpg

Philosophizer
18/11/2015, 12:38 PM
It wouldn't look so odd if they had the big multicoloured blocks all over, but the fact that they're mostly green and white, with only the ends of the stands with the blocks of red, white and yellow just looks like they ran out of green and white seats half way through the job.

Once they decided to go down the multicoloured route it would have been much better if they just went for this style (http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/410482/410482,1304501697,6/stock-photo-fragment-of-stadium-about-many-rows-of-multi-colored-chairs-76517278.jpg). But it doesn't bother me at all, just always wondered what the reasoning was behind it.

I wonder what colour seats they'll put in the new stand?

Hitman
18/11/2015, 12:48 PM
Edit - Sporting Lisbon is the "Dutch" side I was thinking of -


I'm not sure which part of that would upset them more.

Our name is part of our identity. And our name is Sporting Clube de Portugal! #NotSportingLisbon

https://twitter.com/sportingcp_en/status/625793135701061637

Philosophizer
18/11/2015, 12:51 PM
Yea the photo's above show how to do it properly. Maybe that was the intention in Tallaght but the installers got the wrong end of the stick...
I suppose we'll never know.

I've never been to Turners cross unfortunately, but it's a pity the new stand doesn't span the full length of the pitch. I always find it disappointing when a lovely new ground is built but it's not fully enclosed. Same thing happened at Longford. I suppose planning restrictions were a factor at Cork because it's surrounded by buildings, but i just can't get my hear around the Longford one. If you're gonna install 7k odd seats why not make it enclosed, or at least make sure that seats are wrapped around the side that the TV gantry will be facing to make it look better on tv.

Come to think of it, nearly all the stadia in the west are excellent: Cork, Sligo, Galway. Limerick will be great when it's finished. Derry too. And hopefully Harps will be in their new place sooner rather than later. If we can just get the Louth stadia up to scratch our grounds won't be looking too bad.

El-Pietro
18/11/2015, 1:08 PM
Yea the photo's above show how to do it properly. Maybe that was the intention in Tallaght but the installers got the wrong end of the stick...
I suppose we'll never know.

I've never been to Turners cross unfortunately, but it's a pity the new stand doesn't span the full length of the pitch.
Which new stand? I assume you mean the Main Stand? The Donie Forde? I could be wrong but its the oldest stand in the stadium. Completed mid to late 90s with no real changes made to it since. The Curragh Road, or Shed End is the newest stand - built in 2006/07 though the roof went on the St. Annes end in 2008/09.

Philosophizer
18/11/2015, 1:30 PM
Which new stand? I assume you mean the Main Stand?
Sorry for the confusion, i don't really know turners cross. I meant the stand that has the TV gantry inside it. I guess that's the main one?
Don't get me wrong, turners cross is definitely the best ground in the league (by a distance), but if that stand was full length it would be absolutely flawless. Bear in mind that i'm going off this aerial photo (http://www.dennishorgan.ie/uploads/1/6/7/9/16797876/s431933560696017250_p141_i1_w960.jpeg) so maybe it's outdated

El-Pietro
18/11/2015, 3:06 PM
Sorry for the confusion, i don't really know turners cross. I meant the stand that has the TV gantry inside it. I guess that's the main one?
Don't get me wrong, turners cross is definitely the best ground in the league (by a distance), but if that stand was full length it would be absolutely flawless. Bear in mind that i'm going off this aerial photo (http://www.dennishorgan.ie/uploads/1/6/7/9/16797876/s431933560696017250_p141_i1_w960.jpeg) so maybe it's outdated
yeah thats the Donie Forde.

BWFC
18/11/2015, 4:02 PM
I'm not sure which part of that would upset them more.


https://twitter.com/sportingcp_en/status/625793135701061637
I'm a Sporting fan myself, and I can say that Lisbon is just the worst thing you can call us. Mainly because our rivals, Benfica's full name is 'Sport Lisboa e Benfica', Sporting Lisbon sounds very similiar :rolleyes: