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thomas72
11/07/2015, 7:35 PM
If we were 90% gone after bray game we are 100% gone now after that shambles tonight and with both bray and sligo winning sligo 3up at HT as I post this.

Pointless wasting money getting in players now it will make no difference whatsoever we are down time to plan ahead

Lims4ever
11/07/2015, 8:05 PM
I actually taught we had a chance of winning tonight at ht my god how wrong was I , I knew Lee j Lynch having to go off at ht would be a massive blow but my god that 2ND half showing was a disgrace nothing to do with ability just a serious lack of effort from too many ,if we're tearing our hair out watching Sean Russell imagine how it must feel playing with him when I seen Turner coming on I was ready to cheer Russell was being taken off obvious choice but he takes off o Connor what a farce he was left on for 90 again that was the last straw for me can't see where there going from here down like a lead balloon disaster

bluewhitearmy
11/07/2015, 8:27 PM
Russell and his son are a disgrace.

Jofspring
11/07/2015, 8:57 PM
I had thought Russell was a good manager but my god he is trying his hardest to prove me wrong.

gael353
11/07/2015, 10:05 PM
playing sean russell (the best midfielder in the league..lfc board member) is like a game of chicken between the board and manager...hes looking to be sacked they wont in order not to pay compo. all to the detriment of the club as we hurtle to another decade in the first division. his budget maybe small but remember he brought sean harding, conor o'donnell and his son to this club. these signings alone should ward off any clubs giving Martin russell another job after he parts ways having led us home....to the first division. I firmly believe it was the clubs intension to get relegated this season. going down witout a fight is the most humiliating thing for any supporter of this club after all the years of fight to stay alive.

Kennycon
11/07/2015, 10:36 PM
Performance tonight was a disgrace players were not interested and not good enough, can't blame Russell on hes own we have players that wouldn't get on local junior teams.

gael353
11/07/2015, 11:05 PM
can't blame Russell on hes own we have players that wouldn't get on local junior teams.[/QUOTE]
such as paul o'connor??? signed by russell.....sean russell???? signed by russell......vinnie flaherty???? signed by russell......plays jason hughes in his most hated position to accommodate his son. I

NeverFeltBetter
11/07/2015, 11:35 PM
Man, I don't know what to make of Russell anymore. It's clear that the team's given up, but you'd think he'd play around with things a bit in terms of line-up at least. This stuff with his son is mortifying to witness. Is this his last job in the game or something?

I wonder how many of the current squad would be kept over for FD next season.

da bishop
11/07/2015, 11:51 PM
What a two weeks we have had,losing to managerless Bray,tonight to Galway in the ...2 ..big games that all our local experts said would turn our season around,in between we had a highly paid and obviously secure manager announcing to all and sundry that while the graveyard division is just around the corner we will only be there for a season,omg you could not make it up,the easy ride our present boss is getting is beyond belief.this game in particular was a shambles for him in that it showed that work done on the training ground is not adequate...this team cannot defend..it can keep possession,pass alright but in all the wrong areas,the subs made ..positioning really poor.the players themselves should be ashamed of themselves albeit the three kids who were not the worst ie 2 centre halfs and keeper[mom] but lets face it their more esteemed playing buddies hung em out to dry.for the record 21 games ....NO WIN ...FFS

da bishop
12/07/2015, 12:03 AM
can't blame Russell on hes own we have players that wouldn't get on local junior teams.
such as paul o'connor??? signed by russell.....sean russell???? signed by russell......vinnie flaherty???? signed by russell......plays jason hughes in his most hated position to accommodate his son. I[/QUOTE]gael ,it does matter what position hughes is put in,he is around long enough to put in a better shift than that and his carry on when subbed was a disgrace,lynch ,flaherty,russell were were,n far behind him,its obvious our better ones duggan and clarke are losing confidence and faith with what is going on around them,actually thought o connor was doing ok and would never have moved or subbed him.Russell has not changed anything,appoach,shape, backroom team or himself ..its just all too cosy.

osarusan
12/07/2015, 7:31 AM
What did Hughes do when getting subbed off?

delboyderis
12/07/2015, 9:09 AM
The team deserve to be relegated full stop.the season has been a shambles and the table doesnt lie.team was never good enough from day one except for shane duggan and one or two more.its so dissappointing after the big return to the markets field.the club will struggle to get a thousand at the remainder of the home games and very few die hards at the first div games next season.backwards things have gone the last few weeks.

fieldofmarkets
12/07/2015, 10:46 AM
It looked like they all gave up at half time. No effort in second half. I am amazed by that as first half was quiet good. Was Lee J the only one getting them to work in the first half?

Team shape gave no protection to an exposed defence in 2nd either.

Tommy Holland despite conceeding 4 goals was pretty solid. Good on him.

osarusan
12/07/2015, 11:44 AM
Team shape gave no protection to an exposed defence in 2nd either.

This is a constant issue over the course of the season.

Whenever we are under the cosh, our defence is completely exposed. I literally wonder where our midfield players are at times when the opposition has the ball.

So much of the 2nd half was Galway attackers with the run of our half, and our back 4 racing back towards goal to try and get in front of runners.

Jofspring
12/07/2015, 4:27 PM
A hat tip to Tommy Holland in goals, he kept that score down.

It's baffling how exposed that very inexperienced back line was left last night.

Ryan Connolly ran the show from midfield and was a constant that running at our back 4.

From here on we need to see some of the young lads given game time. Hopefully it will stand to them for next season. I actually don't want to see any signings coming in at this stage. No point in wasting money.

Lim till i die
12/07/2015, 5:04 PM
Which young lads though??

The club are deluded if they think the current crop are good enough to compete in the First Division next year.

Absolutely embarrassing yesterday but anyone could have told the board in February what was coming down the line. Strange, strange season.

Jofspring
12/07/2015, 9:09 PM
Well let's be honest where will the money come to sign players next season so we need to give these lads plenty of game time.

Holland, Costello, Whitehead and Paudie should see out the rest of the season as starters. I'd throw Mann in there also and Colm Murphy if fit.

At least they will have plenty of games under their belts going into the first division. A bit of protection for the back 4 and those lads could thrive. They will have to do it next season and I don't want to hear the excuse next year that the lads need game time to adjust to LOI etc.. this is the time for them to get it. It's also a lot easier to convince locals to get behind some local young fellas for the rest of the season.

Hughes needs to be moved into midfield for his proper position also. Hughes and Prince in front of the back 4 will at least close up the space that teams have been walking through. Shane Tracey needs to be stuck with also, in a more advanced position.

The players that will most likely be gone for next season are Price, O'Connor, Clarke, Harding, O'Donnell and let's be honest Lynch.

On a side note the decision the club made with regards the under 17's is shocking.

bluewhitearmy
12/07/2015, 9:15 PM
Which young lads though??

The club are deluded if they think the current crop are good enough to compete in the First Division next year.

Absolutely embarrassing yesterday but anyone could have told the board in February what was coming down the line. Strange, strange season.

Ah no you must have forgotten we were just being negative for no reason and everything was going to be just fine remember?

Treaty Gooner
12/07/2015, 9:35 PM
On a side note the decision the club made with regards the under 17's is shocking.

Jesus the last thing we need to do is destroy the underage system.

Care to elaborate?

Jofspring
12/07/2015, 9:40 PM
Jesus the last thing we need to do is destroy the underage system.

Care to elaborate?

Club held open trials for the under 17's team to play in the national league. Supposedly up to 80 young lads turned up. Some excellent players with international recognition from what I've been told.

The club decided to announce that they will not be taking any players from the trial but will instead only take players from their own current 15's and 16's. Basically making the club a closed shop in one swoop.

Hopefully the decision is reversed.

Treaty Gooner
12/07/2015, 9:45 PM
That's one way of attracting players to the u15s and u16s but surely a team like that would get annihilated in a national league next season??

Jofspring
12/07/2015, 9:47 PM
That's one way of attracting players to the u15s and u16s but surely a team like that would get annihilated in a national league next season??

Don't know to be honest. There might be great quality in our current under 15's and 16's but you can't as a club representing a city and County rule out players who have gone to the effort of coming to trials and basically set a precedent for further trials. could you imagine if Manchester United saw a young lad at 17 that was very good and said nah your grand we only stick with what we have.

bluewhitearmy
13/07/2015, 12:58 AM
Club held open trials for the under 17's team to play in the national league. Supposedly up to 80 young lads turned up. Some excellent players with international recognition from what I've been told.

The club decided to announce that they will not be taking any players from the trial but will instead only take players from their own current 15's and 16's. Basically making the club a closed shop in one swoop.

Hopefully the decision is reversed.

The thing with that is

1. Its a terrible decision

2. If you make this terrible decision there is absolutely no need to release a statement about it

3. If you insist on making the terrible decision and then the second poor decision to release a statement about it then make the statement better than what they did put out.

I'd love to know who actually made this decision is there some sort of committee involved in making decisions about the underage set up or is it just the board of the club? I know of one of the board that is or was involved with running the academy but I have no idea if he would have any say in this kind of thing and if he did how much of a say.

gael353
13/07/2015, 6:50 AM
Sam alardyce. Hes available. 3 month contract with a holiday home in spanish point plus car. Hes made his millions so might with serious arm twisting and or large consumption of drugs take the job subject to Russell leaving. Grasping at straws lads i know.

Kennycon
13/07/2015, 11:21 AM
60 seconds is a long time in football,lynch misses a sitter at one end and one minute later harding ,who was being hammered by Brays winger,acts the clown and gets sent off so Bray who would have gladly taken a point now had the incentive for all three and they went and got them.now at the risk of sounding like the ould broken record ,.....ffs better not sure everyone knows it already,however what was Russell doing with the shape of the team with ten men ??and those who think lynch will be some sort of saviour better think again young and possibly talented but how many clubs is it now[lack of game time or not he had a shocker ]this Bray team came in to this in turmoiland at times made us look so poor and shapeless.best players on the pitch Duggan[again] ,Brays right full and the ref.....oh ya ..might as well 20 GAMES NO WIN.

I fear we could lose duggan to cork unless pat o sullivan dips into the kitty

osarusan
13/07/2015, 10:42 PM
Russell's gaffe in the interview on Soccer Republic tonight summed it all up: "We never stopped giving up."

sweeper
14/07/2015, 12:47 AM
That's one way of attracting players to the u15s and u16s but surely a team like that would get annihilated in a national league next season??

Seems to be a threat to local players playing with other clubs in the local leagues,come to limerick at u15s or dont come at all,whoever is advising o sullivan is brainless,another nail into local clubs and Limerick looking to get bums on seats,the only bums seems to be the ones making the decisions,a good course in PR is needed by sullivan and hangers on.

Lims4ever
15/07/2015, 6:55 AM
I had to laugh when I heard Russell say that on soccer republic alright , and pat o Sullivan's speech after the game last night ",to mk dons players keep fighting never give up just like our players do " if neither of them think the team gave up last Saturday what hope have we , I know a few people with kids involved in underage setup and from what they do be saying its no surprise the way they handled under 17 decision there well sick of the way things are organised

NeverFeltBetter
15/07/2015, 10:54 AM
POS and Russell Are starting to sound like one of those governments that's about to be overthrown but insists everything is fine.

da bishop
15/07/2015, 2:20 PM
The Greeks are ,The Greeks are coming.....all is well.

NeverFeltBetter
15/07/2015, 2:29 PM
Saw that. Sounds all kinds of crazy/desperate.

dutchie
17/07/2015, 3:48 PM
This crack with the u17 players is an absolute farce,And with this Greek thing the whole lot is making Pat out to be a bit on the silly side,there were talks of a new backer coming in with a healthy chequebook,the sooner he comes in the better and sits down Pat and talks a bit of sence into him.

Treaty Gooner
17/07/2015, 8:26 PM
Holy ****, 15mins to go and were 0-0 in Derry. Are we gona sneak something??!!

Edit: first point in a while? Like a knife in a gunfight at this stage tho.

NeverFeltBetter
17/07/2015, 9:33 PM
Shaun Kelly's left Derry, might be coming back this way. Decent point tonight, no it doesn't amount to much in the big picture but snaps that losing streak at least.

Jofspring
17/07/2015, 9:39 PM
A clean sheet should a least give the back 4 some confidence. In saying that Derry have poor in front of goals themselves.

Lims4ever
19/07/2015, 12:29 AM
Quote from extra time report " the first half was probably one of the most one sided games I've seen in a longtime same old problem for Derry as the rest of this season can't score , by the sounds of it we improved 2nd half but Derry are known to fade a lot in the 2nd half of games and both sides have a problem scoring goals , will we even get into double points this season I wonder at this rate

da bishop
19/07/2015, 3:47 PM
Its been a great weekend,a point ,a clean sheet away from home.................hold on ,22 GAMES NO WIN.

gspain01
19/07/2015, 6:37 PM
Quote from extra time report " the first half was probably one of the most one sided games I've seen in a longtime same old problem for Derry as the rest of this season can't score , by the sounds of it we improved 2nd half but Derry are known to fade a lot in the 2nd half of games and both sides have a problem scoring goals , will we even get into double points this season I wonder at this rate

Fair comment re the first half. We really rode our luck. 2nd half we were much the better side albeit nowhere near the dominance they had in the first half. Had a decent penalty shout on 90 minutes too.

New keeper looked very good. Prince and Lee Jay both made ahuge difference from the bench.

bluewhitearmy
19/07/2015, 6:55 PM
Was chatting to one of the lads from the club earlier and tbf to them when the whole thing with the 17s is actually explained it makes more sense. I'm not getting into explaining it cos I know ill get some wrong.

Jofspring
19/07/2015, 7:10 PM
Was chatting to one of the lads from the club earlier and tbf to them when the whole thing with the 17s is actually explained it makes more sense.

Is it just that its a case they don't want it to be said they are taking players from other clubs?

bluewhitearmy
19/07/2015, 8:29 PM
Is it just that its a case they don't want it to be said they are taking players from other clubs?

No there are actually rules about how many certain players a you can take and they ran into bother with it before . Apparently too 11 of last seasons 19s are able to play 17s.

Jofspring
19/07/2015, 8:35 PM
No there are actually rules about how many certain players a you can take and they ran into bother with it before . Apparently too 11 of last seasons 19s are able to play 17s.

If that's the case then just be honest and say it rather than have people all over limerick ****ed off with them.

dutchie
21/07/2015, 6:29 AM
Was chatting to one of the lads from the club earlier and tbf to them when the whole thing with the 17s is actually explained it makes more sense. I'm not getting into explaining it cos I know ill get some wrong.

The next time you are meeting this person will you ask him why last years u19 coach has resigned from the club,probably the best coach to be involved with any Limerick team in last 20 years.
What your buddy might be talking about is each team is allowed a maximum of 2 inter lge players to transfer from the district lge to a Limerick underage team per year,but Limerick never poaches district players so this rule doesn't come into play,they poach desmond players and county players.
And will you ask your buddy why did one of the management from this years u15 team ring around 6-8 players in the desmond lge this week promising everything for the coming years,there were 2 District players that got Ireland u15 trials last week,why weren't they or there parents called.
The result is the Limerick underage structure STINKS and being run amuck by Pat's side kicks,if he doesn't reel them in soon the whole lot will fall down around him.

gael353
22/07/2015, 10:44 PM
Best coach? Get lost your having a laugh. That same coach stopped players joining Limerick in the previous years to butter his own nest (Kennedy cup team) you see this is how rdos are judged...on their areas kennedy cup teams. Kids have to join limerick at 11/12 to be educated correctly by qualified coaches. Simple as.these kids at 15/16 are no good as from the evidence of the 19s...where this so called excellent coach was involved most are ****e

dutchie
23/07/2015, 6:30 AM
Best coach? Get lost your having a laugh. That same coach stopped players joining Limerick in the previous years to butter his own nest (Kennedy cup team) you see this is how rdos are judged...on their areas kennedy cup teams. Kids have to join limerick at 11/12 to be educated correctly by qualified coaches. Simple as.these kids at 15/16 are no good as from the evidence of the 19s...where this so called excellent coach was involved most are ****e

obviously you know absolutely nothing about football to come out with a stupid statement above,is there no coaching going on in clubs in Limerick ouside of Limerick fc,Desmond kennedy cup team were beat 11-10 in semi final by the winners Kerry and greatly helped by the above coach,so some clubs must be doing something right,there is a serious amount of qualified coaches around the county and more being trained up every month,Limerick district finished 13th with no player from the great Limerick fc.you must never have worked with the above coach or seen him in action,if you did you wouldn't come out with the trash that you did,also the u19s won the southern division last year and have improved greatly in the last few years and are feeding a lot into the senior ranks.

bluewhitearmy
23/07/2015, 5:36 PM
obviously you know absolutely nothing about football to come out with a stupid statement above,is there no coaching going on in clubs in Limerick ouside of Limerick fc,Desmond kennedy cup team were beat 11-10 in semi final by the winners Kerry and greatly helped by the above coach,so some clubs must be doing something right,there is a serious amount of qualified coaches around the county and more being trained up every month,Limerick district finished 13th with no player from the great Limerick fc.you must never have worked with the above coach or seen him in action,if you did you wouldn't come out with the trash that you did,also the u19s won the southern division last year and have improved greatly in the last few years and are feeding a lot into the senior ranks.

They aren't though are they? Not of any quality anyway except maybe Paudie O Connor.

Jofspring
23/07/2015, 11:06 PM
The only thing I will say about the under 19's is a lot of the lads are still only 17 and 18. Still another few years at that level for them to progress further.

Treaty Gooner
24/07/2015, 10:30 AM
Kids have to join limerick at 11/12 to be educated correctly by qualified coaches.

And are these coaches of 11+ year old players highly qualified enough to justify this comment?

Who are these coaches? Have they a UEFA coaching badge and a proven track record of developing players?

Because if they don't, the thing is an even bigger farce than anyone thought.

Lim till i die
24/07/2015, 10:53 AM
So.... Shamrock Rovers Sunday

Any interest??

dutchie
24/07/2015, 12:45 PM
So.... Shamrock Rovers Sunday

Any interest??

No....