Soccer Republic

[White Horse]

Interesting discussion between Brian Kerr and Dave Barry last night. Kerr wanted to discuss attacking versus defensive football, but Barry interpreted this as Dublin versus Cork.

[nigel-harps1954]

I thought Kerr had some very decent points though RE Cork and Liam Miller. Where Miller constantly comes looking for the ball short and play some simple passing football, too many Cork players were looking for the long lump forward. I guess it shows the difference between international standard and where some of our players are at.

[White Horse]

I thought Kerr had some very decent points though RE Cork and Liam Miller. Where Miller constantly comes looking for the ball short and play some simple passing football, too many Cork players were looking for the long lump forward. I guess it shows the difference between international standard and where some of our players are at.

I don't understand why Barry derailed the discussion by going on about the Dublin media. Wasn't he in Dublin and on the media?

[nigel-harps1954]

I don't understand why Barry derailed the discussion by going on about the Dublin media. Wasn't he in Dublin and on the media?

Dave Barry is a bit of a dinosaur in footballing terms. He hasn't made sense for about 10 years now.

[GypsyBlackCat]

I don't understand why Barry derailed the discussion by going on about the Dublin media. Wasn't he in Dublin and on the media?

Everything is Cork v Dublin to Barry. I saw him in Eddie Rockets on Friday before the game. He over heard someone say that the Eddie Rockets in Phibsboro is the nices. He was fuming. Clearly Dublin bias.;)

[Nesta99]

I disagree, Dave Barry is one of the more knowledgable pundits, knowing players names without it written on a sticky somewhere. His views/analysis I find is ok, no worse or no more predictable as Byrne. Unfortunately he too suffers from the belief that there is an anti Cork bias exuded from Dublin and its media. El Pietro here on Foot is one of the very few Cork fans who dont constantly play the seige mentality card. CityRebel (very quiet these days) is the opposite and in the majority of the opinion that 'Dublin' is out to get Cork etc. Its a long running saga that was given a boost by Roy Keane and his whinging about having to travel to Dublin to train for Ireland at underage levels - shock horror that international representatives meet up and play in the capital. If there is a bias or favouritism in media outlets it is pro Dublin based clubs rather than anit Cork. Understandable if employees of media groups that are based in the capital end up top heavy with supporters of Dublin clubs. I dont happen to think this is the case as most are balanced enough. If it is to do with refereeing the issue is that they are all generally poor rather than 'Dublin ref syndrome'.

[Louth4sam]

I thought Kerr had some very decent points though RE Cork and Liam Miller. Where Miller constantly comes looking for the ball short and play some simple passing football, too many Cork players were looking for the long lump forward. I guess it shows the difference between international standard and where some of our players are at.

Maybe that's the difference between a good manager and a poor one.

[Real ale Madrid]

Ridden Rock Solid again. Rico said that - the only Dub I have time for because his comments suit my agenda.

Dave Barry is a hero of mine, obviously, and normally I like him as a pundit as well. But this Cork v Dublin thing is getting old now. We built a lovely new motorway years ago so fellas from Cork can get to national training sessions easier and so we can go to All Ireland's quicker without having to slum it via Iranrod eireann. When the Newlands Cross flyover is finished perhaps the Dublin media bias perception can be finished with it.

Regards, the real capital.

[White Horse]

Like Nesta, I do think that Dave Barry is a knowledable pundit and knows the teams and players inside out. I suppose we all get defensive about our own teams. There was the making a good discussion about Cork's tactics and whether it could hold back their title challenge. However, Barry killed it.

[Nesta99]

There is defensive (both tactically and about tactics) then there is playing defenders in midfield which is extreme to say the least. Cork have a squad that shouldnt be afraid of being more positive away from Turners Cross. If Caulfield is targeting home wins and then not losing away he should be warned that Dundalk while unbeaten at home in the league since 2013 wouldnt have won the league without winning away to Cork, Pats, and Rovers last season!

Just looking back there on RTE Player and DB does say something a bit odd just before 14mins, along the lines of "Miller is probably the best man in the league to get on the ball - I haven't seen him now, and pass it...judge him after 7 games not one".

If he hasnt seen him why the issue with Kerr saying Miller's teamates should be getting him on the ball more through the middle rather than the super direct back to front long ball especially v 10 men. It was far from critical Kerr was being. Even if it was just analysis of that one game where Cork failed to take advantage of being a man up it was still a valid point.

[Nesta99]

Real Capital.

The next name to be used by a LoI side from Cork!

[El-Pietro]

El Pietro here on Foot is one of the very few Cork fans who dont constantly play the seige mentality card.
Jesus do you want me killed!

[Dodge]

Hilarious from Barry. Kerr's examples proved his point about how Cork play away and Barry argued he should see them at home. Kerr wasn't talking about home performances at all.

Presume the Dublin media line played well in Cork too

[Pablo Escobar]

Hilarious from Barry. Kerr's examples proved his point about how Cork play away and Barry argued he should see them at home. Kerr wasn't talking about home performances at all.

Presume the Dublin media line played well in Cork too

This is a real storm in a tea cup. In effect, both of them are right. We do have the players to play a more flowing game away from home, and personally, I don't know why we don't. Also, our game is much more flowing at home. I don't really see the Dublin-Cork bias argument here. I don't even think Barry was saying that. Kerr made a judgement on a completely different gameplan that we for some reason employ away from home, something which he was right to criticise.

[White Horse]

Cork must be doing something right at home if they get 5,000 through the turnstiles.

I have yet to see them this season but reports indicate a very defensive set up away from home. If the goal is to win the league, winning away from home is important.

[Real ale Madrid]

Presume the Dublin media line played well in Cork too

If I didn't know any better I'd think Johnny C put him up to it!

[TonyD]

Cork must be doing something right at home if they get 5,000 through the turnstiles.



Yeah, they are winning games and up the business end of the table. Not really a comment on the football they are playing. In fairness Corks ability to generate crowds when doing well should be the envy of everyone in the league. I'd love 5,000 every week at Richmond.

[Nesta99]

In fairness Corks ability to generate crowds when doing well is the envy of everyone in the league. I'd love 5,000 every week at Richmond.

Subtle change to your comment!

[Charlie Darwin]

Lads, it's not as if they've stumbled upon some secret formula. The evidence is clear: just commit no fouls or break the rules in any way and the fans will flock in to watch such virtuous football. I'll be the first to admit my own club could learn a thing or two.

[Pablo Escobar]

Yeah, they are winning games and up the business end of the table. Not really a comment on the football they are playing. In fairness Corks ability to generate crowds when doing well should be the envy of everyone in the league. I'd love 5,000 every week at Richmond.
While winning is the trigger, there has been a huge amount of work done for about 15 years through schools and other community projects. So it hasn't just happened overnight. What I've noticed in recent times is a complete change of attitude towards the LOI. The blank stares have seemingly become a rarity and supporting your LOI club is now as socially acceptable as I can remember.

[El-Pietro]

Lads, it's not as if they've stumbled upon some secret formula. The evidence is clear: just commit no fouls or break the rules in any way and the fans will flock in to watch such virtuous football. I'll be the first to admit my own club could learn a thing or two.
The funniest thing about this running joke is that we finished second in the fair play behind Dundalk. If we had been even more virtuous we clearly would have been Champions. Though UCD finished third and were relegated...

[Charlie Darwin]

The funniest thing about this running joke is that we finished second in the fair play behind Dundalk.
I know, that's why it's really funny.

[oriel]

The funniest thing about this running joke is that we finished second in the fair play behind Dundalk. If we had been even more virtuous we clearly would have been Champions.

If you had drawn even one of the 3 games you lost to Dundalk last year (agg score of 8-1), you could have been champions! The two in Oriel Park were quite comprehensive defeats, but that was a missed opportunity in TX last August. However even with the late winner for us, we probably did deserve to win the game, but it just shows you the fine margins and how valuable every single point is.

[El-Pietro]

If you had drawn even one of the 3 games you lost to Dundalk last year (agg score of 8-1), you could have been champions! The two in Oriel Park were quite comprehensive defeats, but that was a missed opportunity in TX last August. However even with the late winner for us, we probably did deserve to win the game, but it just shows you the fine margins and how valuable every single point is.
You don't need to tell me that. I was saying that from before your second win over us. I've said many times here how the 1998-99 season was horrible for me, and it was exactly the same. We lost 3 times in the league to St. Pats, and one draw would have been enough for the title.

To be fair, I enjoyed large parts of both seasons.

[oriel]

There are incredibly fine margins in all leagues, another one for us was back in 1988/89, defending double champions, unbeaten at home all season and still 'only' came second.

That was some League run Cork went on to be fair from the middle of August to the middle of October last season.

[El-Pietro]

There are incredibly fine margins in all leagues, another one for us was back in 1988/89, defending double champions, unbeaten at home all season and still 'only' came second.

That was some League run Cork went on to be fair from the middle of August to the middle of October last season.
I'd argue that run has been going on for a little bit longer, and still continues.
(Though those 6 Wins in a row, and 10 game unbeaten streak was pretty special and made many of us believe we could do it, I for one was not prepared for defeat that day).

The last time someone other than Dundalk beat City in the League was Bohs last July. Before that Pats last May. Before that, Shamrock Rovers September 2013.

Since Tommy Dunne left/was sacked Cork City have played 50 league games. 46 of those are against teams not named Dundalk. 33 Wins, 10 Draws and 3 losses for an average PPG of 2.37, form of Champions its fair to say. None of those losses came at Turners Cross either.

The other 4 games against Dundalk have not gone as well. Dundalk have beaten us 4 times by an aggregate of 12-1. Granted three of those games were in Dundalk, but if we're going to be successful this year we need to reverse that trend, or at least stop it.

Most pleasing is that in that 18 months or so we have only lost one game at home. In Dunnes last few months we were coughing up unbeaten home records left right and centre. Rovers and Derry had both gone a decade without league wins in Cork and we gifted them both three points. The worst was Bray though. 21 years I think it was. They not only beat us they battered us. 3-1 was a flattering scoreline.

[Charlie Darwin]

There are incredibly fine margins in all leagues, another one for us was back in 1988/89, defending double champions, unbeaten at home all season and still 'only' came second.

That was some League run Cork went on to be fair from the middle of August to the middle of October last season.
Feckin' plastic pitch advantage.

[White Horse]

Feckin' plastic pitch advantage.

Great pitch back then, nothing like a game the week after staging the Tug Of War World Championships.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EaIp380M3nM/hqdefault.jpg

[oriel]

Feckin' plastic pitch advantage.

Assume that's a joke guys, this was 1988/89 season I'm on about, unbeaten.

Those are fair stats EP, very solid results, and fair point on the home record with only one defeat in 18 months.

[oriel]

Great pitch back then, nothing like a game the week after staging the Tug Of War World Championships.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EaIp380M3nM/hqdefault.jpg

Think I saw this before, was this not 1978?

[Nesta99]

Think I saw this before, was this not 1978?

Champions then too - Dundalk winning the league on rubbish pitch shocker.

[TonyD]

Champions then too - Dundalk winning the league on rubbish pitch shocker.

Aha - so you admit your pitch is rubbish :p

Anyway, back to Soccer Republic. How in Gods name did Bolger not win goal of the month ? I mean, McNamees strike was good, but Bolgers was better, don't care if I am biased.

[patrickccfc]

Aha - so you admit your pitch is rubbish :p

Anyway, back to Soccer Republic. How in Gods name did Bolger not win goal of the month ? I mean, McNamees strike was good, but Bolgers was better, don't care if I am biased.

I agree with you there. Mcnamees strike would win most monthly awards but bolgers trumps it by a mile

[Nesta99]

Bolgers goal was the stand out GoTM but if it was a public vote didnt get the numbers. Pats fans needed to get texting along with the rest of fans that can see past club colours to other's quality.

[White Horse]

Anyway, back to Soccer Republic. How in Gods name did Bolger not win goal of the month ? I mean, McNamees strike was good, but Bolgers was better, don't care if I am biased.

Bolgers's goal was the better goal. Perhaps, people were put off voting for the goal because of the scorer?

[oriel]

Only saw the Derry v Rovers highlights tonight, I couldn't believe the amount of times the ball bobbled at almost every pass. Looks like it needs a good bit of maintenance.

Derry fans, is this the same condition it was in this time last year, or is this the worst it's being for years?

[sullanefc]

Aha - so you admit your pitch is rubbish :p

Anyway, back to Soccer Republic. How in Gods name did Bolger not win goal of the month ? I mean, McNamees strike was good, but Bolgers was better, don't care if I am biased.
Not to take anything away from the strike, good and all as it was, but I thought the keeper panicked a bit and might have done better.

[outspoken]

Bolgers's goal was the better goal. Perhaps, people were put off voting for the goal because of the scorer?

Yep, Greg Bolger is a horrible fu(ker

[Dodge]

Bolgers's goal was the better goal. Perhaps, people were put off voting for the goal because of the scorer?

Maybe but more likely is that Derry fans voted more often. Not that big a deal (or shocking)

[seand]

Like poor Sean Gannon's goal last season, it's a faaaaaarce. I'd advise Pats fans to get some petrol and head to FAI HQ

[whitehall]

Anyway, back to Soccer Republic. How in Gods name did Bolger not win goal of the month ? I mean, McNamees strike was good, but Bolgers was better, don't care if I am biased.

100% greg's strike is goal of the season so far

[brendy_éire]

Derry fans, is this the same condition it was in this time last year, or is this the worst it's being for years?

It was worse last year actually. Worse again in 2013. Will be fine soon though.

[paykanti]

Anyone have issues with error messages during SR on rte when the adverts kick in? I've disabled my adblock and use Hola so that may be it but it works fine and then all of a sudden an error #1009 or some crap comes on. Have to restart, click through, watch adverts again, watch another 10 mins of the programme and then do it all over again. Godbless their guerrilla marketing but sort it out ffs.

[nigel-harps1954]

Anyone have issues with error messages during SR on rte when the adverts kick in? I've disabled my adblock and use Hola so that may be it but it works fine and then all of a sudden an error #1009 or some crap comes on. Have to restart, click through, watch adverts again, watch another 10 mins of the programme and then do it all over again. Godbless their guerrilla marketing but sort it out ffs.

Had the same problem here, just gave up on it.

[paykanti]

Spent 2 hours watching the 52 minute programme. All 6 Monday games were covered in less than five minutes so I wish I'd joined you. I know there was little time to edit the footage but jesus, lads.

Quite good to see 50 minutes of the show without any filler though. They should cut the normal show to 30 minutes of that and then throw together a weekly 30 minute football focus style preview show to accommodate that filler. Maybe shown on a Thursday. What a beautiful fiction that vision is.

[Louth4sam]

Anyone have issues with error messages during SR on rte when the adverts kick in? I've disabled my adblock and use Hola so that may be it but it works fine and then all of a sudden an error #1009 or some crap comes on. Have to restart, click through, watch adverts again, watch another 10 mins of the programme and then do it all over again. Godbless their guerrilla marketing but sort it out ffs.

Same here. Kept crashing when going to ads. Pain in the arse

[bennocelt]

I havent looked at SR at all this year, which is a pity as I do enjoy it, but for the international version I dunno somedays it doesnt appear to be anywhere on the rte site at all, so I have given up on it.

[gufcfan]

Use this (http://hola.org/) and set it to Ireland.

[littlebray]

Did anyone else see "Sligo Rogers" on a graphic, or was I just hallucinating?

[Hitman]

Did anyone else see "Sligo Rogers" on a graphic, or was I just hallucinating?

Can't say I noticed one way or another, but there was definitely some sort of dream sequence for Kevin O' Connor's goal for Longford.