Limerick FC v Bohemians Markets Field March 7th

[bluewhitearmy]

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[nigel-harps1954]

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Would it not have made more sense to put that beside the existing stand?

[bluewhitearmy]

Would it not have made more sense to put that beside the existing stand?

Its for away fans.

[nigel-harps1954]

Its for away fans.

Away fans are meant to be allocated covered seating far as I'm aware.

[NeverFeltBetter]

They're also meant to have their own entrance. Break one requirement, the rest start to not hold up all that well.

From that distance it looks alright, but up close it might be a state.

[donnrua]

Away fans are meant to be allocated covered seating far as I'm aware.

For tonight I'd say f**k 'em, they're only Dubs:D

[NeverFeltBetter]

Best of luck anyway lads. Stuck up in Dublin working. Will happily take a dour 0-0 draw.

[thomas72]

Very very long season ahead absolutely clueless shocking stuff

[kingpin4]

Very very long season ahead absolutely clueless shocking stuff

I'll agree, it's going to be a very very long season. That big Samuel-Oji-shaped hole in defence was exposed tonight.

There's going to be a lot of fall out with what happened between the lads at the Blue Army Facebook page and the Chairman. Not really the publicity we needed before/ at the first game.

[donnrua]

I'll agree, it's going to be a very very long season. That big Samuel-Oji-shaped hole in defence was exposed tonight.

There's going to be a lot of fall out with what happened between the lads at the Blue Army Facebook page and the Chairman. Not really the publicity we needed before/ at the first game.

What happened there?

[kingpin4]

What happened there?

Going by their Facebook page, and I can only say what they've said, Pat approached them in the pub beforehand and told them they weren't allowed into the stand, even though they had tickets for it. He is supposed to have sworn at them aswell. There are a few of those lads on here who can fill in the full details on it, but it was a pretty big shock when they have been crying out for support the whole off season to then treat some of the more loyal lads like that

[CraftyToePoke]

Which page is that ? Have searched FB, but not seeing anything on the OS or IS pages.

[Jofspring]

What happened there?

The chairman arrived up to the pub and told them they couldn't go into the stand and it didn't matter if they had already bought stand tickets. Disgraceful out of a club that is begging for support. They do that to the only lads that consistently give them money.

Poor performance but always knew it was going to be a tough start. First goal was sloppy, second was a defensive error and third was the keepers fault, gifted a handy free kick into the corner.

I'd still have some patience though. Anyone that thought we'd be a very good side was delusional. We will try hard and if we tighten up at the back we can be competitive but it is still going to be a tough season ahead. One or two simply not good enough based on previous seasons. A few more deserve a chance to settle.

[Lims4ever]

Poor stuff indeed , as I taught after Munster cup game last week scoring goals is going to be a massive problem taught dean Clarke worked hard but we need a presence up front somebody to hold up the ball saying that there was not much created behind him either , I hate picking out individual performances but darragh rains ford is just not upto that level of football it shows our strength in depth the fact he was left on for 80 odd minutes as always he try's but no end product expected more from Ross Mann as well , gave away 3 poor goals worst start possible one thing they didn't need it was very hard to recover from that I fear for the cork game next Friday that's for sure

[delboyderis]

Very poor result for the first game of the season.couldnt make it tonight due to work but i listened to it on 95fm.it must have been terrible to watch as the radio commentary said Limerick were awfull.after the game last week against Cork it seemed promising but it was a false dawn.Barry Ryan was commentating with Mike aherne and he has tipped them for relegation.worst start possible for the club.

[Lims4ever]

I don't think the pitch done the game any favours either very bobbly indeed

[Jofspring]

The hardest thing to take is from looking at tonight Bohs won't be too far off the bottom either and we were a good bit off them.

[da bishop]

First things first the pitch in jackman is a disgrace,felt sorry for both teams having to endure that.result was fair enough,Bohs were all the things we were not..well organised,very hardworking,well motivated and very FiT.ON THE OTHER HAND ..and allowing for a couple of poorly defended goals ,..we lacked organisation,looked beaten after 15mins,and were not as sharp or FiT as our opponents.we do not have the players to play from the back and the softly softly approach from several of our lads tonight wont do,and will cost us.felt sorry for Duggan and Clarke who tried their best all through,certainly don,t think Bohs will finish in the top half so while its early doors yet the first 6 games will determine whether to reset alarm or not.on Rainsford tonight would have to say that he was out of his depth at times but a few older more experienced heads looked that way too.

[delboyderis]

They mentioned on the radio that Sean harding didnt look at the races/unfit.i never rated Darragh Rainsford for loi football.he has been given a good few chances and still hasnt proven himself?keeper was given a poor rating by the radio commentators.very dissappointing start to the season but we will have to wait and see if things improve.

[kingpin4]

I don't think fitness was an issue tonight. I think our biggest problem this year is going to be that we're missing that bit of nastiness in the team, guys who are used to winning ugly or battling. That bit of personality is the difference between us conceding 3 goals tonight and it finishing 0 0.
Give me Barry Ryan and Shane Tracy any day over what we have.
Only way forward now is to be patient and let them come through it.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Sounds fair bad alright, but I suppose we have to be honest and admit this was always on the cards. Think keeping the team from imploding on a morale standpoint alone is going to be a big job for Russell, you can bet they'll be a few more bad results in the weeks ahead.

I'm not sure what to make of that stuff involving the chairman and that supporters group. I've been out of the loop really for a while now, what's his problem with them again? Is it still that OSC/USC stuff? Regardless, telling people they aren't entitled to seats they've paid for, right now, after POS has had his credibility shot over the Market's Field, seems completely crazy to me.

[Jofspring]

No idea where it came from to be honest. I take it the chairman/club had friends and or family coming to the game and they didn't want them hearing some of the more colourful language let's say. I'm sorry but those lads up in the corner are one of the only reason a team has kept going. The hardcore support of the team is very small as it is and alienating a few for some people that might show up once or twice a season is a joke. When the going gets tough, and it will based on tonight, it will be those lads in the corner and a few more regulars that keep the money coming in. If the club aren't careful they can kiss another three to four hundred euro a game the lads bring in good bye.

[Lim till i die]

Spade a spade lads, Pat O'Sullivans money was lovely and enjoyable but as a man he has time and again proved himself an absolute ignoramus.

Now that the lovely enjoyable money has dried up I wouldnt be too inclined toput up with a lot of the ****e that dribbles out of his mouth.

If those youngfellas were as bad as he made out tis out the window of the imperial he would have left not out the door. Can you imagine Jonathan Roche approaching Shamrock Rovers fans with the same attitude.

Less class than our starting eleven

[bluewhitearmy]

Just on the thing with Pat there has been no problems at all between Pat and the group he was chatting away to some of us at the MSC game.

We were in the imperial before the game and he came in told us all to be quiet so we did then he told us he was there to tell us where we were going in the ground to which a few of us said we were going to the stand. He said we weren't allowed into the stand and told us where we were to go. Asked why we couldn't go into the stand and were told "Cos I said so" I myself then said that is absolutely ridiculous Pat we may as well not go to the game at all if we can't go to the stand to which he replied " I couldn't give a f**k if ye go or not" I then said Pat some of us have season tickets for the stand to which he replied "I don't give a f**k what ye have". I then said to him that this was a stupid move considering they had been asking for support all off season and that he risked losing our support now and was told "I don't need ye, f**k ye". Few started getting fed up then and said we were going into the stand regardless and he said he would have us removed by the guards if we did.

Came out of absolutely nowhere and honest to god he was being spoken to with the utmost respect at the start I won't lie at the end it got a bit heated and a few choice words went back his way but that was after everything he said above.

Ended up walking into the stand in a large group then so it would be harder to stop us was only young lads on stewarding they seemed a bit nervous and let us in. Pat came up ten stood at the front of the stand pointing up waving and laughing at the group there.

Actually annoyed with myself that I went to the game at all after it should have stayed away after that treatment.

[Jofspring]

The club need to come out an explain themselves. They have no right to treat fans like that.

[NeverFeltBetter]

That's so bizarre. He gave no reason for why he wanted you in a different part of the ground at all?

[faceoff]

Just on the thing with Pat there has been no problems at all between Pat and the group he was chatting away to some of us at the MSC game.

We were in the imperial before the game and he came in told us all to be quiet so we did then he told us he was there to tell us where we were going in the ground to which a few of us said we were going to the stand. He said we weren't allowed into the stand and told us where we were to go. Asked why we couldn't go into the stand and were told "Cos I said so" I myself then said that is absolutely ridiculous Pat we may as well not go to the game at all if we can't go to the stand to which he replied " I couldn't give a f**k if ye go or not" I then said Pat some of us have season tickets for the stand to which he replied "I don't give a f**k what ye have". I then said to him that this was a stupid move considering they had been asking for support all off season and that he risked losing our support now and was told "I don't need ye, f**k ye". Few started getting fed up then and said we were going into the stand regardless and he said he would have us removed by the guards if we did.

Came out of absolutely nowhere and honest to god he was being spoken to with the utmost respect at the start I won't lie at the end it got a bit heated and a few choice words went back his way but that was after everything he said above.

Ended up walking into the stand in a large group then so it would be harder to stop us was only young lads on stewarding they seemed a bit nervous and let us in. Pat came up ten stood at the front of the stand pointing up waving and laughing at the group there.

Actually annoyed with myself that I went to the game at all after it should have stayed away after that treatment.
Give him back yere season books and get yere money back.Ive been saying it for years the man is clueless.how dare he speak to fans like that.He cant stop anybody going into the stand in Jackman Park.Who the hell does he think he is.Didnt do himself any favours this time.

[bluewhitearmy]

That's so bizarre. He gave no reason for why he wanted you in a different part of the ground at all?

All we were told is "Cos I said so" one of the other lads has since been told this morning that Pat told people down at the ground that only families were to go in the stand but not once did he say this to us . What makes it worse is where he wanted to put us was the opposite side of the clubhouse the closest we could possibly have been to the away fans.

[NeverFeltBetter]

I hate to say, but sounds like he's losing the plot to be honest. Result on the field not exactly covering his tenure in glory either.

[bluewhitearmy]

I just can't see the sense in it at all like even the responses he gave to people that were talking to him with the utmost respect I had to force myself not to say what I really wanted to. Still fuming about it all today tbh.

[ped_ped]

Could be a tougher season off the field than on it if the Chairman doesn't cop himself on. The uncovered away stand doesn't help the atmosphere either. A fairly energetic group of travelling fans were singing quite a bit but were lost in the wind.

On the field, it's just a limited team. Obviously in need of more organisation with a few in need of some playing time, but the saddest part is that the team just looks limited - unlike in previous years with a strong squad under-performing for the first half of the season. Some sparks of quality, though. With some luck we might get results against the teams closer to our side of the table.

[bluewhitearmy]

The group of lads have now decided we wont be going to any home games until we receive an apology.

[Jofspring]

The group of lads have now decided we wont be going to any home games until we receive an apology.

Ye are dead right in fairness. That's going to be a decent hit in their pockets. Id be demanding my season ticket money back if any of ye have them.

[bluewhitearmy]

Ye are dead right in fairness. That's going to be a decent hit in their pockets. Id be demanding my season ticket money back if any of ye have them.

Dunno how that would work out after going in yesterday though.

[Charlie Darwin]

Dunno how that would work out after going in yesterday though.
If you're being told you can't go into the stand, even if you did, you're not being given what you paid for.

[leather]

I went to game last evening and was shocked at the abuse and language coming out of the back of the stand. There were a few families with very young kids and it was disgraceful.. Can't imagine those families will be in any rush back. Thought the team tried very hard but look very limited.. Impressed with Clarke and thought Dugan was head and shoulders above everybody on the pitch.. Bohs not much better than limk.. Best of luck to limk for the season...

[Jofspring]

The only thing I'll say on the language side of things is its not great to hear vulgar language at a match but the reality is every game has people cursing and swearing. That's from schoolboy and junior soccer right up to loi, from AIL rugby up to provincial and international rugby and the GAA fans are some of the worst out there. It's not nice but it's something people have to put up with at live sporting events the world over.

If the club want a family friendly section then they will have to provide it. They were happy to sell the lads season tickets, €200 for the season I believe, for the stand as they were the more expensive tickets but then want to tell them they can't go in there. There would be the same problem in the Markets Field also as it is a bigger stand and from what I heard would actually echo the sound around as much if not more than the stand in Jackman.

I also didn't see anyone from the club refusing the lads fivers last week either out in Askeaton.

[bluewhitearmy]

There is always swearing at games won't deny that for a second but there was way more of it lastnight than usual and the majority of it was aimed at O'Sullivan tbh.

[Ballistinianlad]

most proper clubs have two or three stand with one being solely dedicated to families, cork for example. theres always going to be swearing an mouthing, its football simple as

[NeverFeltBetter]

I've been in crowds watching a lot of different sports all over the place, and there was always bad language being shouted. It's worst at GAA games, but the most complaints I've ever heard about it is, weirdly enough, while watching Limerick FC. Maybe in a crowd that's usually small enough (relative to inter-county GAA I mean) it becomes more bothersome to people? Regardless, your kids are going to encounter bad language, in life and at sporting occasions. I understand it might annoy people, but asking for that to change is asking the impossible.

If there was more of it last night, alight, but from what I've read there was a certain provocation (which is crazy really). If POS wants a family area, he can provide for one. Which he won't, of course, but his apparent solution of taking seats of people who have already paid for them is a terrible idea.

If you're not going to games, you guys should try and publicise the fact.

[NeverFeltBetter]

If you're being told you can't go into the stand, even if you did, you're not being given what you paid for.

That's quite right, but you can easily imagine the club weaselling out of it, claiming bad behaviour on the part of the ticket-holder, etc.

[Charlie Darwin]

That's quite right, but you can easily imagine the club weaselling out of it, claiming bad behaviour on the part of the ticket-holder, etc.
Well I doubt anybody actually wants to give back their ticket at this stage, but it wouldn't hurt if a few people politely reminded the club of its responsibilities. If somebody really did want their money back, I'm sure the club wouldn't want the hassle and expense of losing at the small claims court.

[fieldofmarkets]

The lads in the back were particularly angry on Saturday and the abuse was definitely above normal. Sounds like there was some provocation from above posts, but the abuse was still totally unnacceptable. Yes we are in a ground that was not our first choice and we have to be in one very small stand. The boys may think they have a right to shout any abuse they like, truth is they do not, but we are generally prepared to put up with some....because its football (thats ridiculous in itself). The lads should remember the kids are in that stand too, on tickets they have also paid for, without the option of moving. I don't think its too much to ask that grown men could tone it down just a little while the small stand is being shared. The football was bad enough Saturday without losing fans for other reasons.

[Lim till i die]

They weren't asked as grown men to tone it down though were they?? They were condescended to, then f'ed and blinded at, then finally threatened with the guards.

It's funny but you couldn't hear a thing over the far side, I actually commented to one of the lads about how quiet they were.

The chairmans behaviour on Saturday came straight from the Irish Gombeen Handbook. **** down from a height on the people you think you have some power over (the lads in the imperial) then lick the collective arse of the ones you don't (shaking all the bosh fans by the hand at full time :bulgy: )

Apparently the lads in the stand are boycotting until they get an apology. They'll be waiting I'd say.

[NeverFeltBetter]

No way POS will be apologising I'd say. You'd need some media attention on it to be getting any traction.

[harpin]

No way POS will be apologising I'd say. You'd need some media attention on it to be getting any traction.


You'd never know stick a microphone in front of him and he won't be able to resist

[fieldofmarkets]

Sorry ltid, didn't mean to suggest POS asked the lads to tone it down. If the above is true about the 'conversation' in the bar is true, that is clearly not on either. Was saying the lads themselves might consider it.

[AlanOB]

I find it staggering that a successful businessman would show such an incredible lack of judgement in his interpersonal dealings. Staggering.

Let's face it - you can kind of understand his position. The type of rubbish that emanates from a certain section of the support is at times over and above the usual level of effing and blinding that you might expect to hear at a sporting event. And with one stand available, to be shared by self-styled "ultras", regular Joe Football Fans and families alike, Pat would definitely be within his rights to approach the first group and ask them nicely - reason with them - to tone it down.

Instead he approached said group aggressively and looked to order them out of a privilege they were already permitted to pay for.

Like I said - I can't believe he'd be that confrontational. When a man of his age starts to behave that irrationally, it's usually not a good sign....

[kingpin4]

Like I said - I can't believe he'd be that confrontational. When a man of his age starts to behave that irrationally, it's usually not a good sign....

i don't really think his age has anything to do with it to be honest. As long as I can remember, Pat has had an issue with the lads up there, I think he even had a plan to put them into their own section in Thomond Park at one point too.

To be fair, I've been on the hill on front of Pat in Jackman and his language is not much better than what the lads in the stand were accused of. He seemed happy to play the eccentric owner millionaire part for a few years when no one questioned him, it all seems like it's going to sour on him now.

[Jofspring]

Ya as kingpin says, Pat is well able to throw around some expletives from the sidelines. On the hill side of Jackman he is actually the worst and stands out more than anyone else. People in glass houses.

On a few occasions he has complained about the lads and on other occasions he's been inviting them up to the function room to celebrate and asking the lads to make as much noise as possible at the games.