Limerick Doom Thread 2014

[Lims4ever]

I was just reading about athlones financial woes and seemingly they done the same thing to a group of there fans for chanting as well , surely what ever the issue is a sit down and talk situation should have happened or at least a warning sounds like this came out of nowhere , did ye get a refund on yer season tickets ???

[bluewhitearmy]

I was just reading about athlones financial woes and seemingly they done the same thing to a group of there fans for chanting as well , surely what ever the issue is a sit down and talk situation should have happened or at least a warning sounds like this came out of nowhere , did ye get a refund on yer season tickets ???

Asked for one as soon as I was told I was banned no reply yet.

[Jofspring]

Great to see all the ex-players being justified in their comments about the club over the last few years.

It's being run like Nazi Germany. You question the club you pay the consequences. The lamest excuse for a ban I have ever heard.

From talking to a few fans these lads aren't the only ones that won't be showing up to the game on Saturday. I hate to see no support for the team but the way they are carrying on they are driving fans away.

I hope the club see sense before Saturday and come down off their high horse.

[donnrua]

Great to see all the ex-players being justified in their comments about the club over the last few years.

It's being run like Nazi Germany. You question the club you pay the consequences. The lamest excuse for a ban I have ever heard.

From talking to a few fans these lads aren't the only ones that won't be showing up to the game on Saturday. I hate to see no support for the team but the way they are carrying on they are driving fans away.

I hope the club see sense before Saturday and come down off their high horse.

I want the names of all those ex-players so I can pass them on to Pat O'Sullivan:)

[LFC Blue]

What do people think of 2 points from our first four games. Given the times we currently live in with expectation levels at an all time low I am content enough with how things are going on the pitch. We are improving and a point away to Drogheda tonight would suggest that we are capable of mustering up points here and there. After the Bohs game I wasn't sure we were capable of scoring a goal never mind staying off the bottom. If we can cut Bray adrift I can see us surviving but it's early days.

[da bishop]

A point away in normal circumstances would certainly have acceptable,a point away v 10 men for over an hour not so sure,2 points out of twelve,11 goals conceded,some awful football on show,players mental and physical condition questionable,being content can take many forms.Pats and Dundalk next up,Russell has a real job on his hands here so lets hope he rises to the challenge and gets the max out of this squad.in terms of improving all i,ve seen is that we are now 2 games unbeaten,thats a positive.

[Acornvilla]

Reason to be optimistic anyway lads, I figure Russell will be able to eek a little more out of Limerick over the season then Matthews will with Bray, he plays negative football even with a decent squad..

I'm a little more convinced that you can at least nab a playoff berth. The next couple of matches might be a very steep learning curve thou. You currently have 2 more points that myself and a lot of other people would have expected at this stage of the season, it's a pity 3 points weren't gotten at Drogs all the same, they seem to be weak enough outside of the two main men.

[delboyderis]

I wouldnt think that having two points from 4 games is a great return even with all the crap thats going on with the club.was at the longford game last week and it reminded me of first division football.cant see them getting any points from the next two games.i think that they will be just above bray this year in the relegation battle.big let down from the last two seasonsi dont know how the club is going to get people through the gate for the season with such a poor standard on show.some of the lads are trying hard but i dont think it will draw the crowds.

[faceoff]

A point away in normal circumstances would certainly have acceptable,a point away v 10 men for over an hour not so sure,2 points out of twelve,11 goals conceded,some awful football on show,players mental and physical condition questionable,being content can take many forms.Pats and Dundalk next up,Russell has a real job on his hands here so lets hope he rises to the challenge and gets the max out of this squad.in terms of improving all i,ve seen is that we are now 2 games unbeaten,thats a positive.

In fairness to Russell he can only do so much with what he has at his disposal.Bray on paper have a lot stronger squad dont think they'll be rockbottom for too long.Lims need to hang on the Longfords and maybe Galways coat tails.Drogs will get stronger too id imagine.Cant see Lims getting much stronger with the situation the clubs in at the moment.

[delboyderis]

Would agree with you that russell can only do so much.looking at Dundalk last night on tv they are a class side playing lovely football.where has it all gone wrong for limerick.this thing with banning the group of supporters is madness.they should all sit down and forget what has gone on and try get the club moving in the right direction.its not helping anybody.from the first few games staying up is what the club seem to be about this year.cant see them getting any result from the next two home games and getting bad beatings wont help either.

[Argyll12]

Info for the banned supporters:
If you paid for the season tickets by credit card you can claim a chargeback. Credit companies don't hand over all the money up front to the clubs, they release the money on a per game basis. That means if you are barred from entering the ground you can very easily claim it back as they don't have to recover it from the club.

[bluewhitearmy]

Local business man has given the group of lads banned money to cover a 50 seater bus. Its a pity he said it would have went to the club only for the situation but a great gesture.

[fieldofmarkets]

Why don't the banned lads commit to the club they will improve the language/behaviour? I would be surprised if they weren't welcome back as long as they stuck to it. Simple question, not trying to upset anyone.

[Jofspring]

Why don't the banned lads commit to the club they will improve the language/behaviour? I would be surprised if they weren't welcome back as long as they stuck to it. Simple question, not trying to upset anyone.

Pretty sure they have. In saying that there was plenty of effing and blinding at the match last Saturday and the lads weren't even in the ground so I don't know what the club are going to do about that.

[bluewhitearmy]

Why don't the banned lads commit to the club they will improve the language/behaviour? I would be surprised if they weren't welcome back as long as they stuck to it. Simple question, not trying to upset anyone.

Yep we have done that. Could quite possibly be light at the end of the tunnel with all of this soon.

[fieldofmarkets]

Great news

[da bishop]

Yep we have done that. Could quite possibly be light at the end of the tunnel with all of this soon.

About time,a shabby,unprofessional effort all through this by the club

[NeverFeltBetter]

I wonder if O'Sullivan would make the same pledge.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Fixtures against Galway are going to be massive. A loss of that magnitude to Bray is a sure sign that current team should be playing a league lower.

[fieldofmarkets]

Didn't expect that result at all. Tought we were getting better. Would like to hear from anyone that was at the game. Bray have got two great results now since the change in management, perhaps they are not going to be as weak and as you say it is Galway we will need to finish above. If we don't win next week it is looking very bleak.

[osarusan]

We were the better team in the first half, created some decent chances (Dean Clarke skied over from about 6 yards), Bray looked very limited indeed. 0-0 at half time but we looked like going on to win.

2nd half we collapsed. 1st goal was from our corner. It was cleared to our half-way line where Harding tried to take two touches when he shouldn't have, leaving a two-on-two, which become two-on-one when another defender slid in and missed everything. They almost messed it up but it rebounded kindly for them and the striker smashed it in.

2nd goal was a misplaced pass the edge of our own area - Onwubiko was on it like a flash. O Donnell saved the first effort but he knocked in the rebound.

3rd was another calamity - Cassidy just walked through the defence. O Donnell saved but he got the rebound and had an age to control and poke it home.

4th was a ball into our box from Onwubiko that we never cleared. Bobbled round for a while and finally laid off to the edge of the area and somebody fired home through a bunch of players.

Defensively we were a total shambles - we still try to pass and play football in silly areas. The first and 3rd goals came from this.

In attack we are so so limited - we have absolutely nothing else than a ball over the top for a forward to run on to. We pass and pass and pass in the middle of the field (occasionally losing possession) but it will always end up with a hopeful ball over the top. Deliveries from corners were terrible - Russell failed to beat the first defender almost every time.


Dean Clarke finally got in behind the defence at the very end and completely misfired, to cap it all off.

any time we get it wide to a position where every team in the world would send in a cross, we feel the need to play it back to midfield. Usually Duggan, then Williams maybe, and finally, a long hopeful hoof from a much worse position than the earlier position we had. We've done that countless times over the first 6 games.

Russell, O Connor in midfield, Rainsford, offered very little at all.

It's one thing getting hammered by Cork - they are just a better team. Bray were noting special at all - in fact they were woeful in the first half, but we just fell apart against them. If we lose against Galway next week (and if we defend so badly again, we will lose) we are in serious trouble.

[delboyderis]

The two good home results must have been a false dawn?they need to beat Galway next friday or its going to be a long season at the bottom and a return to the first div isnt far away.

[Jofspring]

Reality check yesterday. You have to keep up the intensity shown against Dundalk if you want to stay up. Not just do it against the bigger teams.

[da bishop]

We were the better team in the first half, created some decent chances (Dean Clarke skied over from about 6 yards), Bray looked very limited indeed. 0-0 at half time but we looked like going on to win.

2nd half we collapsed. 1st goal was from our corner. It was cleared to our half-way line where Harding tried to take two touches when he shouldn't have, leaving a two-on-two, which become two-on-one when another defender slid in and missed everything. They almost messed it up but it rebounded kindly for them and the striker smashed it in.

2nd goal was a misplaced pass the edge of our own area - Onwubiko was on it like a flash. O Donnell saved the first effort but he knocked in the rebound.

3rd was another calamity - Cassidy just walked through the defence. O Donnell saved but he got the rebound and had an age to control and poke it home.

4th was a ball into our box from Onwubiko that we never cleared. Bobbled round for a while and finally laid off to the edge of the area and somebody fired home through a bunch of players.

Defensively we were a total shambles - we still try to pass and play football in silly areas. The first and 3rd goals came from this.

In attack we are so so limited - we have absolutely nothing else than a ball over the top for a forward to run on to. We pass and pass and pass in the middle of the field (occasionally losing possession) but it will always end up with a hopeful ball over the top. Deliveries from corners were terrible - Russell failed to beat the first defender almost every time.


Dean Clarke finally got in behind the defence at the very end and completely misfired, to cap it all off.

any time we get it wide to a position where every team in the world would send in a cross, we feel the need to play it back to midfield. Usually Duggan, then Williams maybe, and finally, a long hopeful hoof from a much worse position than the earlier position we had. We've done that countless times over the first 6 games.

Russell, O Connor in midfield, Rainsford, offered very little at all.

It's one thing getting hammered by Cork - they are just a better team. Bray were noting special at all - in fact they were woeful in the first half, but we just fell apart against them. If we lose against Galway next week (and if we defend so badly again, we will lose) we are in serious trouble.Agree with your summation,Clarke really should have scored poor miss from a player of his quality.imo the team changed approach from the Dundalk game and paid the price in the second half,i have said previously we do not have the players to play from the back,russell reverted to type v Bray and it cost big time.Bray look like a team very much together which is a poor reflection on Matthews reign in charge,its worth noting no player has broken ranks to support him not even Cassidy who was very good yesterday.some of our fellas looked leggy especially second half,so big week ahead for the team with with Galway next.

[osarusan]

i have said previously we do not have the players to play from the back. in the first half Bray played quite deep, which meant our back four had plenty of space to pass the ball around, and they looked quite confident doing it. Our midfield were receiving the ball in good areas, and were able to set up decent attacks.

In the second half Bray played much higher up the pitch, pressed the back four a lot more, and all the passing fell apart instantly, with any semblance of an attacking platform disappearing also. The goals arrived in fairly quick succession, but there was good reason for Jason Hughes to come onto that pitch much much earlier than he did.

[bluewhitearmy]

We were the better of 2 poor teams in a poor 1st half then we just never came back out for 2nd half.

What was most worrying for me was the complete lack of effort from some of our lot when we went behind, if we are still in a relegation battle with these players near the end of the season I wouldn't trust them to have the stomach for the fight.

[Lim till i die]

Blue Army Boys are gone for good (or at least until a new chairman arrives) according to bookface. :good:

I for one would like to commend the club on the thought process that has seen 200 Limerick people turn up to recent games against St Pats and Longford Town and an avalanche of bad publicity that a Fr. Joe Young/Danny Drew tag team could only have dreamed of. :good:

I have no doubt in my mind that sponsors will now flock to the club now that the only person that can be heard audibly swearing in the ground is the chairman. :good:

[Jofspring]

Can't wait for the opening of the silent stand in the Markets Field. All people wanting to make any bit of noise could they please make their way over the the opposite side of the ground and get soaked in the lashing rain while the away fans enjoy the comfort of a covered stand.

[whitehall]

Was at the Drogheda game a couple of weeks back, with the extra man I thought ye would go and end that game but creating and finishing chances seemed to be a problem that night. Result have picked up since but was very surprised to see Bray put 4 past with no reply.

Vinny Flaherty isn't featuring much or is he injured? Saw him play quite a bit for Pat's when they were challenging for the league and cup and he scored quite a few for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn2z9XiJ2mY courtsey of youtube :ball: :p

[NeverFeltBetter]

It's a pathetic situation. I think this was a kneejerk decision the club heads regretted, they wanted to reverse it but just had to try and attach some ridiculous terms so they could claim not to have lost face. Jackman Park and the Market's Field will be home games for visiting teams soon enough.

[osarusan]

I thought some progress had been made on talking about letting them back in.

[NeverFeltBetter]

And add on that result tonight. The neck of these people to still bar these lads with a straight face.

The full statement from the banned group is here:

"I'm sure everyone is aware of the situation ongoing between us and the club recently. We have had 2 meetings with the club one the week of the Dundalk game which made small progress but didn't sort the situation and one tonight. The one tonight seemed like it was making progress and things would be sorted but unfortunately it ended with the club saying they would allow us back into the ground but under conditions we felt we could not accept main one being that we would be banned from the stand in both Jackman Park and in future the Markets Field.Events at tonights meeting leave us in no doubt that this issue will not be solved with any agreement we find reasonable therefore we unfortunately have to announce that tomorrows game in Galway will be the lastLimerick FC game the Blue Army will attend as a group and as individuals. It is a tough decision to take as some of us are ending over 10-15 years of supporting the club but we feel it is best for both ourselves and the club that this not drag on any further. We would urge anyone that is still missing games in support of us to please start going again and enjoy supporting the club as you have before this. We would like to sincerely thank all of those that supported us through this it really did mean a lot. We would like to thank fans of opposing clubs for offering support and kind words during it those that travel the country to support their team and truly understand what we do. Also thanks to all of the people that we spent some great times with supporting the club up and down the country.

We do not plan on going out quietly so anyone that wants to come make some noise with us one last time more than welcome to join us in Galway. Finally want to wish all teams at the club best of luck in the future. Lets hope our last game is this seasons first win so we can go out with a bang."

And

"The Blue Army with deep regret can confirm as of last night we will cease to exist as a group , for the last couple of weeks we have worked hard to resolve this issue and gathered a lot of support from fans attending games that wouldn't normally associate with us and some Limerick fans even refused to watch the game and went home , we would like to thank everyone that has supported us through this and it is with a heavy heart we release this statement today , we did have meetings with the club , a private apology to the group was accepted as we look to try work together for the future , unfortunately after this there was another break down , we were told that we would not be allowed back into the (Shed) Stand at jackman park as it is now a family zone and we are not welcome there , this is where I myself grew up as a teenager as a limerick fan in the shed with most of these lads roaring on my team , that shed was our home and there was many happy memories there as a Limerick Fan , for years we have tried to add atmosphere , colour and friendly banter to games , now and again as any footballing fan can agree it can go abit to far when things get heated , were we willing to create a positive athmosphere and tone things down yes , I always believed we can have new faces and younger lads join in with us . we The Blue Army had one of the best reputations of supporters groups in the country and this decision taken by our group is a hard one to take for me and others , some members have completely lost there love for the club and we never wanted this to happen . Once again thanks to all Home and Away fans for your support through this ."

[da bishop]

On the game last night it has to be said that a fairly ordinary Galway team simply outplayed us,showed more fight and made us look at times an absolute shambles.the scoreline in no way does the home team justice..it could easily have been six.to play 3 at the back given the context of the game and to let out the capt. who is easily our most effective player sended a pre match message of panic to all.one would also have to question young O connor being ommitted his recent form is good.another huge game lost,no win in 8 games ,highest concession of goals in the league,tactically very poor at times,are the serious questions going to be asked?the treatment of the fans group is a sad reflection on how the club is being run at the moment,it seems the implosion on and off the field is not that far off.

[fieldofmarkets]

I expected Whitehead to start instead of O'Connor as he was looking a bit weary for some of the Bray goals (only saw them on TV) the previous week. You can forget how young he is and we just can't play him everyweek. Whitehead needed a game too. Paudie might be back in for Derry maybe. Duggan unfortunately has been below par, maybe he needed a reminder. I thought Tracey offered more than him tbh. Ideally both will be in the 1st 11 everyweek though.
I think we are chaotic at the back, Oji is a huge loss in that we have a kid playing centre half and another in goals. Price needs to do more as the experienced one to keep us more organised. I thought it was getting better a few weeks ago but we have regressed in that dept lately. Until that improves we will lose almost every week. It might be worth starting Robbie in the middle maybe, with Costello left or even ST, though i hate to lose Shane in the midfield.