Limerick Doom Thread 2014

[Lim till i die]

Deserves a thread of its own away from the rumours one.

I heard we're ****ed.

Discuss the issues.

[gael353]

My league of ireland experience. 1989 to 2014. Rip

[Mr A]

What what in the what now?

Why would you be fecked? If you've no debts (and you could have for all I know) why couldn't you carry on as amateur if it came to it?

[Lim till i die]

Amateur set ups cost money too, no backers, no ball.

[Mr A]

I bet you a million gazillion euro Limerick start the 2014 season.

[osarusan]

Best thing would be to drop out for a year, take the million gazillion from Mr. A, and get back in for 2016.

We'd be sorted.

EDIT: Wait, he said 2014.....ruined it.

[harpin]

And everything's alright with the world again

[Jofspring]

Get the feeling there is a slight bit of jumping the gun going on over on Facebook and Twitter.

We've gone from struggling to put out a competitive team to completely pulling out of the league within the space of 12hrs.

[blueblood]

Hopefully this is just another cry for help and someone comes out to help the club.
If this is a cry for help tho the club are doing this the wrong way too.

[donnrua]

Hopefully this is just another cry for help and someone comes out to help the club.
If this is a cry for help tho the club are doing this the wrong way too.

Has there been any word from the club or is this all rumour?

[Jofspring]

Has there been any word from the club or is this all rumour?

The staff let go in Bruff doesn't seem to be a rumour. Everything else as it stands, is.

[donnrua]

The staff let go in Bruff doesn't seem to be a rumour. Everything else as it stands, is.
I was under the impression that the staff in Bruff were all FÁS workers on short-term contracts?

[LFC Blue]

The Bruff let go while not nice to see is hardly alarming enough to suggest the club will go out of business is it? Pat O Sullivan needs to get on 95fm and inform fans one way or the other. I'm just thankful the Markets Field development is being carried out independently from the club because it's times like this we see just how precarious it is to rely entirely on one man.

[da bishop]

Easy people,the chairman will honour his badge for this season,after that....ummm.

[bluewhitearmy]

This situation hasn't gotten this bad just overnight its just that people have just found out about it now.

[bluewhitearmy]

I'm not saying we definitely won't make the season but believe me I am not exaggerating when I say there is a very real chance we wont.

[blueblood]

Pat O Sullivan needs to get on 95fm and inform fans one way or the other.
I would have trouble believing anything the club say, as I always say about anything to do with Limerick Fc- I'll believe it when I see it.

[Jofspring]

I wouldn't think it's as bad as being made out but something is needed to give us any chance of staying up this season.

If you look at it logically it looks like this.

The club need a new owner/owners/investment etc...

Pat has put in place all the structures needed for someone to take the mantel. There is a ready made club there for people to invest in. An agreement for a ground to play in (The Markets Field), a training base out in Bruff, a manager and a few players to start the season, an under 19's, a vast amount of schoolboys and academy players coming through. A good social media presence, a good website, some very good staff.

Pretty much everything people say is needed for a successful club are in place bar a few things:

A decent fan base and support from the general public, which for the self proclaimed irish capital of sport doesn't seem to be coming. What a lot people want I don't know, premier football, with a few locals in the team, playing out of a top class stadium was put on their doorstep and the support never really came. Probably better advertising in terms of billboards, posters etc... And a few more quality players. Better communication with the fans they do have is also needed. The fact most things that come out of the club tend to be bad rumours and never addressed is a problem and also the fact that anyone that questions anything the club do is basically brushed off.

All in all if there was ever a time for some people to invest in the club this is it. At the end of the season if we are in relegation all the good work over the years could be gone down the toilet.

[LFC Blue]

Spot on there jofspring.

[Lim till i die]

O'Donnell

Harding
Price
williams

Duggan
O'connor
Feeney

Mann
Turner

Rains ford
Clarke

Subs:

Gaspar
Faherty
O'connor
O'hanlon
Dillon
Costello
Holland

That was the lineup that lost to Cobh tonight.

See you all in the First Division in twelve months.

[Treaty Gooner]

We played 3-3-2-2?? What sorcery is this?

[bluewhitearmy]

Our attempt at 3 at the back would have been comical if it wasn't so depressing.

[faceoff]

Gonna be a disastrous season with terrible gates.

[blueblood]

O'Donnell

Harding
Price
williams

Duggan
O'connor
Feeney

Mann
Turner

Rains ford
Clarke

Subs:

Gaspar
Faherty
O'connor
O'hanlon
Dillon
Costello
Holland

That was the lineup that lost to Cobh tonight.

See you all in the First Division in twelve months.

Is Aidan Price signed? If so could it be at the expense of Oji signing back!!
Hope that squad doesn't take gates of 2500 just to break even because we won't average 1/4 of that!! It'll be a long hard season but miracles happen (or some technicality).

[Lim till i die]

Cobh are decent right??





RIGHT?!?!

[NeverFeltBetter]

Things are bleak. Cork away might be a very nasty trip.

[kingpin4]

Things are bleak. Cork away might be a very nasty trip.

In the very worst case scenario (it is the doom thread after all) ...but let's say the board want a change in management, would we even have the funds to change things?


(And before anyone jumps on that, I'm not for one minute saying we should change or even jumping the gun after 2 games. I'm just saying the very worst case scenario)

[Lim till i die]

I'd say the far more likely scenario would be Martin walking if something else (ANYTHING else?!) comes up.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Ah, Russell isn't the problem here.

[Jofspring]

Ya for me Martin Russell leaving would be the worst case scenario. He has an incredibly tough job on his hands and I reckon there is no one else that could do better and for that matter would want to come in.

[kingpin4]

Ah, Russell isn't the problem here.

Oh I know that, but what's more logical if a change has to be made? Change the manager or change the whole team? I was only asking the question if we'd even have the funds to do that.

[NeverFeltBetter]

The team. And we don't have the funds. We're stuck, and it's not looking good. Any movement on that trust?

[delboyderis]

Havent heard anymore about setting up a supporters trust.it was ridiculed a few weeks ago when mentioned on a thread.i am sure most of the geniune supporters would favour a trust if it was properly run.the osc have been very quiet about anything going on with the club and trust idea?why doesnt somebody get the ball rolling with a trust and approach the club.

[Jofspring]

There was word the club were setting up a trust alright but at the moment it seems to be very hush hush.

As I've mentioned before is there much point in the club itself setting up a trust? Surely that should be an independent thing and not something that will be run by the club?

[Mr A]

Exactly- it'd be way better to set up a trust independently rather than wait for the club to make a move.

[bluewhitearmy]

I was approached recently to go to a meeting about setting up a trust that was seperate from the club. Unfortunately with how things are at the minute between myself the group of lads I go to games with and the club we now will have nothing to do with it but there are more meeting plans I believe.

[JosephMcSweeney]

Definitely worth setting up a Trust there guys, and if someone's running with it-definitely worth talking to them and helping them. It's such an important way of helping getting involved in the decision making of clubs and keeping them on the right track away from financial ruin. There's plenty of Trusts around (Galway, Cork City, Shams, FCUM, AFC Wimbledon, etc) and members clubs who'll help from a governance and set up pov.

[bluewhitearmy]

Definitely worth setting up a Trust there guys, and if someone's running with it-definitely worth talking to them and helping them. It's such an important way of helping getting involved in the decision making of clubs and keeping them on the right track away from financial ruin. There's plenty of Trusts around (Galway, Cork City, Shams, FCUM, AFC Wimbledon, etc) and members clubs who'll help from a governance and set up pov.

Helps that John O Sullivan was our CEO has good knowledge of the club knows about trusts through FORAS and is more than willing to help.

[delboyderis]

Why doesnt somebody grab the bull by the horns and approach john o sullivan.i dont know if pat o sullivan would be open to the idea of a trust?the sooner a trust is set up the better for all involved with the club.

[Jofspring]

The club had John O Sullivan up a few weeks ago discussing a trust.

[delboyderis]

And no more about it?the sooner its set up the better.

[Lim till i die]

Why is everything to do with Limerick FC akways arse backwards.

The board are having behind closed doors meetings to set up a trust.

Brilliant

[bluewhitearmy]

Im sure some will be pleased to know that the group of fans that were verbally abused by the club chairman have now been banned by the club.

[Lim till i die]

I foresee this having negative consequences

[sadloserkid]

Im sure some will be pleased to know that the group of fans that were verbally abused by the club chairman have now been banned by the club.

What? Why? Unless I've missed something fairly spectacular (and I may have, I'm nowhere near the pulse these days :p ) that seems like an utterly farcical decision.

[delboyderis]

that doesnt make sense?we dont have that many supporters that we can expel them willy nilly?

[NeverFeltBetter]

It's crazy stuff altogether. I know those lads were going to be staying away from matches anyway, but this POS-inspired spat has reached stupid levels at this point. This is looking like one of those textbook "How not to do it" seasons. Certainly makes me distrustful of any club-started trust idea.

[delboyderis]

I have started a trust this evening totally independent of the clubs and its supporters clubs.you are more than welcome to join up if you want?would like to arrange a meeting for anybody interested.

[da bishop]

My initial great faith in the Chairman was considerable weakened by the decision to go to TP and Taylors appointment,this latest spat with this group of fans has left me wondering is the Chairman really losing it.

[bluewhitearmy]

Basically what happened was we had emailed the club with our complaints about the verbal abuse by the chairman there were emails back and forth where they asked for additional info, one of the emails they asked for names of the people that were present at the time. Thinking it was so they could ask a few questions or something I asked the lads and we were happy to provide the names received an email back saying due to bad language and abusive chants basically every name on the list was banned from games. Caught me a good one with it ill give em that but imo a totally classless move.

Keep in mind not once during the conversation were our chants brought up until we were banned and at no stage have they ever been brought up to us. I'm sure everyone on here is intelligent enough to know that the chants are not the reason we have been banned its because we have had the cheek to question Pat O Sullivan . Sher some of the names on the list that have been banned don't even sit with us at games or sing they were just with us at the time.

For anyone interested the entire email conversation is on facebook on the page named Blue Army Loyalty Club.