12 to become 11??

[gael353]

Expression of interest required for the prem as a club is in difficulty

[nigel-harps1954]

Expression of interest required for the prem as a club is in difficulty

Care to elaborate?

[bluewhitearmy]

Care to elaborate?

Rumour has it this way that its our turn for mad millionaire to kill a club.

[IrishRossi]

UCD to go back up so,

[bluewhitearmy]

Absolutely nothing solid that we will be going anywhere yet but staff let go today and talk around is worrying.

[Mr A]

Had heard there may be a club that might not get a premier license but I would not take it for granted that it's Limerick.

[Lim till i die]

I saw Martin Russell in the train station checking the payphones for coins.

This is serious.

[bluewhitearmy]

Had heard there may be a club that might not get a premier license but I would not take it for granted that it's Limerick.

Could be Bray. 18 team premier on the way. Huzzah.

[ger121]

Saw an admin of a LOI Facebook page, post that all is not well down Limerick way. Took it with a pinch of salt but if there's talk of it here then there must be something to it. Also said very likely Market Field won't be ready now for first game of the season. Is this definitely the case?

[donnrua]

Saw an admin of a LOI Facebook page, post that all is not well down Limerick way. Took it with a pinch of salt but if there's talk of it here then there must be something to it. Also said very likely Market Field won't be ready now for first game of the season. Is this definitely the case?

I passed the Markets Field this morning and there was a serious amount of work going on inside the ground. Looked to me like there were pillars being erected, either for the away stand or maybe floodlights, hard to tell.

[White Horse]

Terrible news.

I was very dissappointed with the amount of Limerick people turning up for games. "Sugar Daddies" will only support a club for so long. If local people won't support a club, it will entually die.

It is time for the people of Limerick to decide if they want a League Of Ireland club.

[Jofspring]

Terrible news.

I was very dissappointed with the amount of Limerick people turning up for games. "Sugar Daddies" will only support a club for so long. If local people won't support a club, it will entually die.

It is time for the people of Limerick to decide if they want a League Of Ireland club.

Been saying it for a while now, the people of Limerick simply do not want LOI football.

Excuse after excuse not to bother going to games year after year.

We missed an opportunity with promotion and once again are missing it with the move to the markets field.

I'd Imagine within the next 2 years we will be scrapping it out in the lower half of the first division.

There is a core of about 250 fans that go no matter what, then you have a few more pretty loyal fans that make there way a lot of the time meaning we could hit 500-600 at a game. After that you are talking about sunshine fans pure and simple.

[Straightstory]

I think the people of Ireland do not want LOI football. Shame about Limerick - it was a good football town/city back in the day...

[Macy]

There is a core of about 250 fans that go no matter what, then you have a few more pretty loyal fans that make there way a lot of the time meaning we could hit 500-600 at a game. After that you are talking about sunshine fans pure and simple.
tbh, I'm not buying that as an excuse. This pretty much sums up every club - the only difference is that some clubs haven't/ won't be down in the 1st without a hope of promotion that season to find out what their actual bare bones support is (and so will bs that it doesn't apply to them).

[Jofspring]

tbh, I'm not buying that as an excuse. This pretty much sums up every club - the only difference is that some clubs haven't/ won't be down in the 1st without a hope of promotion that season to find out what their actual bare bones support is (and so will bs that it doesn't apply to them).

It's not an excuse. In our case it's pretty much a fact. I'm not talking about what our support would be in the first division, I'm talking about the support the club got in the premier. We were doing very well in the run in last season. Playing good football, winning matches and pushed up the table to finish a credible 6th and we still only got 500-600 in the gate. It was only the odd game when we first came up we were over the 1,200 mark and then very rarely the 2,000 mark.

Now the club didn't exactly do themselves any favours either, for example starting the season weak with absolutely no buzz and then trying to strengthen mid-season and hope people suddenly come out.

[ger121]

I think the people of Ireland do not want LOI football. Shame about Limerick - it was a good football town/city back in the day...

True but based on Jof's numbers, Limerick's core support figures are very low, not just for a regional side but even a Dublin club. It does look like the people of Limerick aren't prepared to support Limerick FC, even in the sort of numbers that would be average in the Premier Division. Very sad to see.

[ThePrisoner]

From the financial side I'm not surprised to see Limerick in trouble. The club lost €405,357 in 2013. The figures for 2014 are not in the public domain yet but I would be of the view that they may not show a great improvement.

[Jofspring]

I don't think the club are actually going to be in debt it just seems to be more a case of where will the money come from to run the team this year. I could be completely wrong there but it's the impression I've been given.

[ybig]

Limerick Junior football is very strong.. Just no support for the LOI team which is a shame

[bluewhitearmy]

Terrible news.

I was very dissappointed with the amount of Limerick people turning up for games. "Sugar Daddies" will only support a club for so long. If local people won't support a club, it will entually die.

It is time for the people of Limerick to decide if they want a League Of Ireland club.

Which is the excuse the club will give to try and deflect blame if it does go belly up. Truth is you have to go out and earn support and the club failed miserably on this side of things. The day before the start of last season there was casual fans that would go every now and then that had no idea the season was even back the next day cos there was so little advertising from the club. Its waste and stupidity on the clubs side more than anything that is at fault.


It's not an excuse. In our case it's pretty much a fact. I'm not talking about what our support would be in the first division, I'm talking about the support the club got in the premier. We were doing very well in the run in last season. Playing good football, winning matches and pushed up the table to finish a credible 6th and we still only got 500-600 in the gate. It was only the odd game when we first came up we were over the 1,200 mark and then very rarely the 2,000 mark.

Now the club didn't exactly do themselves any favours either, for example starting the season weak with absolutely no buzz and then trying to strengthen mid-season and hope people suddenly come out.


That is exactly it though there was no way were we gonna get decent crowds out after the horrible football and depressing atmosphere of the season all the way up the point where we started being decent. The club did it all too late bringing in these players when the season was dead we had nothing at all to play for at that stage and nowhere really cared about going from 8th to 6th.

[brendy_éire]

Truth is you have to go out and earn support and the club failed miserably on this side of things. The day before the start of last season there was casual fans that would go every now and then that had no idea the season was even back the next day cos there was so little advertising from the club.

Same scenario here in Derry, and probably at other clubs too.
Cork have it spot on.

Regarding Limerick's license for this season, if Markets Field is not ready, is it back to Thomond?
And are there any 'football debts' left over from last season?

[bluewhitearmy]

Same scenario here in Derry, and probably at other clubs too.
Cork have it spot on.

Regarding Limerick's license for this season, if Markets Field is not ready, is it back to Thomond?
And are there any 'football debts' left over from last season?


That would have been the plan to go to Thomond but whether that is an option now I don't know.

I have no idea if there is debts tbh.

[Brusher]

It's probably too late for this season,but we need clubs to come together and put rivalries aside and start driving this League to where it should be.It should be a think tank,where somebody like Garrett Kelleher or Pat O'Sullivan starts banging heads together and pushes the Fai to give a sh1t !Whatever happened to the meeting where Mr.Kelleher asked for more financial support from the Irish Sports Council ? Surprise surprise,the media barely mentions it !

[Yossarian]

It's probably too late for this season,but we need clubs to come together and put rivalries aside and start driving this League to where it should be.It should be a think tank,where somebody like Garrett Kelleher or Pat O'Sullivan starts banging heads together and pushes the Fai to give a sh1t !Whatever happened to the meeting where Mr.Kelleher asked for more financial support from the Irish Sports Council ? Surprise surprise,the media barely mentions it !

It appears to me that Pat O'Sullivan is banging enough heads together as it is.

[White Horse]

It's probably too late for this season,but we need clubs to come together and put rivalries aside and start driving this League to where it should be.It should be a think tank,where somebody like Garrett Kelleher or Pat O'Sullivan starts banging heads together and pushes the Fai to give a sh1t !Whatever happened to the meeting where Mr.Kelleher asked for more financial support from the Irish Sports Council ? Surprise surprise,the media barely mentions it !

It may not be the best idea asking multi-millionaires to demand scarce tax-payers money for their businesses.

[Sheridan]

It's probably too late for this season,but we need clubs to come together and put rivalries aside and start driving this League to where it should be.It should be a think tank,where somebody like Garrett Kelleher or Pat O'Sullivan starts banging heads together and pushes the Fai to give a sh1t !Whatever happened to the meeting where Mr.Kelleher asked for more financial support from the Irish Sports Council ? Surprise surprise,the media barely mentions it !
God bless the lumpen Irish belief that personal profiteering is a skill that can be transferred to any form of administration.

[delboyderis]

Limerick is a big soccer town when it comes to junior soccer but the junior teams and limerick fc dont seem to work together for the better of soccer in limerick and the midwest.its a natural progression for players to go from junior to loi and maybe cross channel if they are good enough but its often happened that players go the opposite direction with regards to limerick.limerick havent really had great support since they left the markets field years ago.i have been going to limerick matches since the rathbane days of billy hamilton and co and all you ever had was a few hundred geniune supporters.guys in limerick follow premier league soccer and wont give the loi a chance.how can any team survive if it isnt given a chance.it would be a disgrace if the club does go to the wall.

[Nesta99]

Ireland is a big soccer country when it comes to junior soccer but the junior teams and League of Ireland dont seem to work together for the better of soccer in Ireland.its a natural progression for players to go from junior to loi and maybe cross channel if they are good enough but its often happened that players go the opposite direction with regards to LoI. The league hasnt really had great support since years ago....guys in Ireland follow premier league soccer and wont give the loi a chance.how can any team survive if it isnt given a chance.it would be a disgrace if the club does go to the wall.

Few adjustments to the post.

[Brusher]

Jeez,some people just don't get it ! Where did I actually suggest money should be thrown at the problem ? If you knew me,you'd know that I rarely have time for big business,but people with a few ideas is what's needed in our League here.Anyway,that's my last time replying here !

[ThePrisoner]

[QUOTE=Brusher;1802700]It's probably too late for this season,but we need clubs to come together and put rivalries aside and start driving this League to where it should be.It should be a think tank,where somebody like Garrett Kelleher or Pat O'Sullivan starts banging heads together and pushes the Fai to give a sh1t !Whatever happened to the meeting where Mr.Kelleher asked for more financial support from the Irish Sports Council ? Surprise surprise,the media barely mentions it ![/QUOTE


Have a read of the filed accounts for St. Pats, read the notes to the accounts and then read between the lines. Look at the ownership of St. Pat's, look a the security given to the banks, and the reason it was given, look at the legal status of the companies that own St. Pat's, look at the financial status of the group companies, every blade of grass in the place is mortgaged............. All there in the public domain. Just log onto www.cro.ie

Look at Limerick. Recorded losses of c. €405k in 2013.

Now, start joining the dots.

[LFC Blue]

Limerick announced the signing of Ian Turner today so it would seem the title of this thread is greatly exaggerated thankfully.

[Nesta99]

Limerick announced the signing of Ian Turner today so it would seem the title of this thread is greatly exaggerated thankfully.

Fingal supporters might beg to differ!

[sidcon]

@Cunneen92's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Cunneen92/status/562334978932240386?s=09

[patrickccfc]

@Cunneen92's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Cunneen92/status/562334978932240386?s=09

why does Barry Ryan hope Shane Duggan leaves for us? Also why does he always put hash tag as opposed to an actual hash tag.. he using again??

[Jofspring]

why does Barry Ryan hope Shane Duggan leaves for us? Also why does he always put hash tag as opposed to an actual hash tag.. he using again??

Because I don't think Barry and the club finished on the best of terms. A little bitter and immature to pass comments like that if you ask me. Was a great servant in goals for us, club and him have gone their seperate ways. Don't see why it couldn't be left at that.

[Lim till i die]

Don't see anything wrong with that comment.

It would be a good move for him.

Probably be a good move for us too the way things panned out

[donnrua]

Don't see anything wrong with that comment.

It would be a good move for him.

Probably be a good move for us too the way things panned out
Shane had an ordinary season for us last season. I don't see him getting much game-time in Cork if he does leave!

[patrickccfc]

Shane had an ordinary season for us last season. I don't see him getting much game-time in Cork if he does leave!

yeah wouldn't make sense for us to sign him.. always liked him with us but can't see him getting a look-in if he came back

[Jofspring]

Statement from Pat O'Sullivan

http://www.limerickfc.ie/statement-from-chairman-pat-osullivan

[White Horse]

Statement from Pat O'Sullivan

http://www.limerickfc.ie/statement-from-chairman-pat-osullivan

It's all well and good providing football for 3 year olds, children with special needs, and women. All very laudable etc etc. However what about Limerick FC? I don't sense a burning passion to see it being a success.

[Mr A]

Sounds like everything else will continue but he isn't going to bankroll the first team to the same extent any more. Fair enough really.

[delboyderis]

I suppose clubs have to live within their means.i hope it works out for the club.

[Jofspring]

Sounds like everything else will continue but he isn't going to bankroll the first team to the same extent any more. Fair enough really.

Ya it's fair enough and he has been saying it for ages.

Just shows though that even with everything put in place there is still no guarantee in the LOI that the fans will actually come out and support it and that the businesses will get behind a club.

Hopefully onwards from here and some more sponsorships etc... will come on board.

[Dodge]

It goes against everything that is correct and right but the only thing that gets people out to watch LOI football is a winning team. Turners Cross is a fabulous little LOI stadium but it was pretty good in the first division and Cork's crowds were a third of what they were last year. Tallaght was pcked when Rovers won 2 in a row and less than a thousand at some games last year. Oriel might be the worst ground in the country but sold out last year.

Long term, of course, having good facilities will help but winning leagues and cups is still the only thing that matters. Which is why so many chairmen gamble on that

[Jofspring]

Ya exactly. Money was wasted on the playing front which could have had us challenging but at least the underage structures are there. We need Russell to work some serious magic to keep us up though.

[El-Pietro]

Ya exactly. Money was wasted on the playing front which could have had us challenging but at least the underage structures are there. We need Russell to work some serious magic to keep us up though.
The best example of waste at Limerick was last year.

In Pre Season Cork City and Limerick both went on two training camp/team bonding trips.

Cork City spent a weekend in Galway and a weekend in Kerry.
Limerick went to Spain and Scotland.

Then their manager called Cork City out for spending money.

[Longfordian]

At least they don't have a load of players on existing contracts for big money. Even if they have to reduce their playing budget to a large degree they should hopefully still be able to survive as a club.

[bluewhitearmy]

Ya it's fair enough and he has been saying it for ages.

Just shows though that even with everything put in place there is still no guarantee in the LOI that the fans will actually come out and support it and that the businesses will get behind a club.

Hopefully onwards from here and some more sponsorships etc... will come on board.


Why do people keep saying this? Did people actually think that fans and businesses would flock to games because we have a good under 7s team or something. People care about the first team and first team only. The only way you get fans and businesses out to support a club is with a strong first team. And whether he likes it or not all his other projects will go bye bye if the first team was to go.

And as for people thinking the underage thing will help us, the closest I have seen to a player good enough for first team football is with the under 12s.

[bluewhitearmy]

The best example of waste at Limerick was last year.

In Pre Season Cork City and Limerick both went on two training camp/team bonding trips.

Cork City spent a weekend in Galway and a weekend in Kerry.
Limerick went to Spain and Scotland.

Then their manager called Cork City out for spending money.

We didn't go to Scotland last year, we just spent thousands on bringing a B squad to Spain with most of our actual first team players still at home.

[El-Pietro]

http://www.limerickleader.ie/sport/limerick-sport/limerick-fc-set-for-scottish-pre-season-tour-1-4780956
Apparently it was in 2013 ye went to Scotland. I've been unfairly denigrating Taylor for wasting money on two first team trips in one season when apparently he didn't have any first team trips last year.