Cyrus Christie D Swansea City b.1992

[elatedscum]

For arguments sake, I’ll engage:

I’ve never witnessed more racism anywhere in the world than I saw in South America, particularly in Chile and Argentina. Was heartbreaking. These bright young Haitian refugees who were just teenagers being treated like they were subhuman. Of all the places in the world, how the **** did the end up in a place that treats them so appallingly?

Racism is mostly to do with education and up-bringing and it’s also somewhat cultural. I don’t believe for a second it’s about improving incomes and reduced sensitivity or globalisation.

From what I’ve seen in Ireland, speaking in generalisations, racism is most often found in the areas where there is the most socio-economic depravation - and also certain parts of rural Ireland where there is an overwhelming fear of the other.

[NeverFeltBetter]

hey pal isnt James McClean getting abused in England week in and out because of his irishness. Diego Maradona was the most abused and insulted footballer in football history. Do you know he has a close irish friend? Colin Farrell.

For a WUM you're especially strange, I'll give you that.

[geysir]

It's the misplaced apostrophe that gets me.

[Bielsa´s irish]

For arguments sake, I’ll engage:

I’ve never witnessed more racism anywhere in the world than I saw in South America, particularly in Chile and Argentina. Was heartbreaking. These bright young Haitian refugees who were just teenagers being treated like they were subhuman. Of all the places in the world, how the **** did the end up in a place that treats them so appallingly?

Racism is mostly to do with education and up-bringing and it’s also somewhat cultural. I don’t believe for a second it’s about improving incomes and reduced sensitivity or globalisation.

From what I’ve seen in Ireland, speaking in generalisations, racism is most often found in the areas where there is the most socio-economic depravation - and also certain parts of rural Ireland where there is an overwhelming fear of the other.

ive met some guys from Haiti living in greater Buenos Aires province all of them they told me that they came from the upper class of Haití because only the riches can study.

Actually i play football with one of them. He is studying in one of our free universities in the greater Buenos Aires. We have a lot of students from a lot of countries because the best universities here are free of charge, which it is an achievement of peronism and its social base.

Studying and Learning at a university is a human right in Argentina.. In Argentina most of the riches, they complaint because they evade taxes and dont wanna pay what they should.
Dont know were you've been but it sounds you have been with the upper class of BS.AS.capital city, or with people from the northern corridor of the greater buenos aires, Olivos, Vicente Lopez, San Isidro, Martínez and San Fernando where the upper class live.
Working class Argentina in the suburbs is very much side by side with people from Haití.

Regarding Chile the wealthy upper class is very racist and elitist. Chile is a very uneven unequal country.

[tetsujin1979]

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[Fixer82]

ive met some guys from Haiti living in greater Buenos Aires province all of them they told me that they came from the upper class of Haití because only the riches can study.

Actually i play football with one of them. He is studying in one of our free universities in the greater Buenos Aires. We have a lot of students from a lot of countries because the best universities here are free of charge, which it is an achievement of peronism and its social base.

Studying and Learning at a university is a human right in Argentina.. In Argentina most of the riches, they complaint because they evade taxes and dont wanna pay what they should.
Dont know were you've been but it sounds you have been with the upper class of BS.AS.capital city, or with people from the northern corridor of the greater buenos aires, Olivos, Vicente Lopez, San Isidro, Martínez and San Fernando where the upper class live.
Working class Argentina in the suburbs is very much side by side with people from Haití.

Regarding Chile the wealthy upper class is very racist and elitist. Chile is a very uneven unequal country.


Interesting to read but kind of Waaaaaay off topic

[DeLorean]

Appears to be joining Nottingham Forest - https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2020/09/17/report-nottingham-forest-set-to-sign-fulham-defender-cyrus-christie/

[Eirambler]

Appears to be joining Nottingham Forest - https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2020/09/17/report-nottingham-forest-set-to-sign-fulham-defender-cyrus-christie/

Probably for the best, he's a solid Championship performer but was going to get next to no game time with Fulham this season.

[DeLorean]

Was thinking the same really.

[Trequartista20]

Potentially a very good move. Forest are a club on the up.

[Trequartista20]

Christie's move to Forest is confirmed.

Loan until the end of the season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54211382

[Trequartista20]

Fulham have taken up the option to extend Christie's contract for another year, which was due to expire.

https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2021/june/Player-Departures/

[tetsujin1979]

Linked with a move to Bologna this morning, who've won and drawn their first two games in the new season in Italy, finished 12th in Serie A last season

[Diggs246]

Its a funny old game football, a Serie A team are after a player that is nowhere near our team! ( btw I agree with kenny on this one)

[Eminence Grise]

That's out of the blue. Where did you see that? Last I saw was a move to Stoke in the offing (https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/other-soccer/conor-hourihane-seals-sheffield-united-loan-deal-with-arter-and-christie-also-to-move-40801662.html).

[Eirambler]

You can never tell with these things whether it's agent talk or if there's actually something in it. I suppose Serie A is probably weak enough outside of the top six or seven teams that it's not beyond possibility that he could go there. Probably just agent talk all the same and he'll end up at Stoke or Birmingham or somewhere like that.

[Diggs246]

That's out of the blue. Where did you see that? Last I saw was a move to Stoke in the offing (https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/other-soccer/conor-hourihane-seals-sheffield-united-loan-deal-with-arter-and-christie-also-to-move-40801662.html).

Bologna target Fulham defender Cyrus Christie as Serie A side join Burnley and Stoke in transfer chase (thesun.ie) (https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/7524203/bologna-fulham-christie-burnley-stoke/)

Its the sun, so we know we are in safe hands !

[tetsujin1979]

I saw it on the athletic - https://theathletic.com/realtime/rCkK1kiZuaPo

[CSAD]

Its a funny old game football, a Serie A team are after a player that is nowhere near our team! ( btw I agree with kenny on this one)

Bottom half Italian teams are known to make these kind of signings as the don’t have the money to compete with the Bundesliga, PL or Serie A

[Eminence Grise]

Well, Bologna have just offloaded rightback Takehiro Tomiyasu to Arsenal (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/aug/31/arsenal-agree-17m-deal-to-sign-bologna-defender-takehiro-tomiyasu)and trousered £17m for postage and packaging, and Burnley have given Welsh rightback Connor Roberts a geansai and four year (https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/content/connor-clocks-on) deal so that means ... Stoke, yeah, Stoke. Probably. Would like to see him in Serie A all the same.

[John83]

That could be a good move for Christie, if there's anything to it. Most of the players I can think of who have moved from England to Italy in the past few years have boosted their reputation of had an Indian summer. I think the level is a little lower there, but it'd be a step up from the Championship.

[pineapple stu]

I see there's a Sydney van Hooijdonk in the current Bologna squad - son of Pierre.

[Eminence Grise]

Bologna signed Arthur Theate, a 21-year old Belgian CB from KV Oostende. Looks like a loan with an option to buy but it may be a case of Bologna boloney for Cyrus.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/arthur-theate/transfers/spieler/368891

[MylesNotMiley]

Did Cyrus get a move in the end?

[Demesne Lad]

Did Cyrus get a move in the end?

No, he didn't. Perhaps it was just as well, given the premature birth of his daughter and illness of his partner last autumn. Cyrus Christie interview: Prematurely born daughter changed my outlook, I can’t let Fulham exile break me down | Evening Standard (https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/cyrus-christie-exclusive-interview-fulham-b973134.html)
Now linked with a transfer to Blackburn or Cardiff, as he is out of contract this summer -- and the Bologna rumour persists, with Elche thrown in for good measure! (The 72, 1 January).

[Demesne Lad]

A move to Swansea (whose right-back Ethan Laird was recalled by Man U) was being reported earlier today (Planet Swans, The 72, 12 Jan), but it seems to have collapsed during the afternoon (Wales Online).

[zero]

The loan to swansea has now gone through after all.

[Demesne Lad]

The loan to swansea has now gone through after all.
So I see.... I wonder what the hiccup in the negotiations was about, but it's good for him and for the BIG that he will get some game time.

[Philly]

Nice move, hopefully he gets plenty of game time. With Coleman seemingly on the demise unfortunately and Doherty struggling, RB could become an open position in the coming couple of years.

[Olé Olé]

Straight into the team. Right wing back. Manning left wing back. Obafemi on the bench.

Good few starts in the Championship today actually. Knight, Ebosele, Egan, McGoldrick, O'Dowda, Connolly, McNamara, Taylor, Szmodics, Shipley, Browne, Cunningham, Dunne, Molumby and Robinson.

That's on top of McGuinness, Collins, Lenihan and Travers in the earlier kick offs.

That's 20 players up for selection (excluding McGoldrick) and there's a team in that.

[seanfhear]

Straight into the team. Right wing back. Manning left wing back. Obafemi on the bench.

Good few starts in the Championship today actually. Knight, Ebosele, Egan, McGoldrick, O'Dowda, Connolly, McNamara, Taylor, Szmodics, Shipley, Browne, Cunningham, Dunne, Molumby and Robinson.

That's on top of McGuinness, Collins, Lenihan and Travers in the earlier kick offs.

That's 20 players up for selection (excluding McGoldrick) and there's a team in that.
The championship is probably where at least half of out team is going to come from ~ from now on / present time. That’s the way it is.

[Olé Olé]

I don't have an issue with that. It's probably a timing thing too. How many of those younger lads can progress? Knight, Ebosele, McGuinness, Taylor, Connolly, McNamara, Travers, Dunne and Molumby are young and bright that some of them might push on.

Egan, Robinson and Lenihan are older players that are probably in that grey area between being good enough for a promoted Premiership side and being a good Championship player.

[pineapple stu]

Straight into the team. Right wing back. Manning left wing back. Obafemi on the bench.

Good few starts in the Championship today actually. Knight, Ebosele, Egan, McGoldrick, O'Dowda, Connolly, McNamara, Taylor, Szmodics, Shipley, Browne, Cunningham, Dunne, Molumby and Robinson.

That's on top of McGuinness, Collins, Lenihan and Travers in the earlier kick offs.

That's 20 players up for selection (excluding McGoldrick) and there's a team in that.
Seán Maguire and Scott Hogan on as subs in Preston v Birmingham too - as is Jobe Bellingham, Jude's younger brother. Turned 16 in September and on for his league debut. He's their second youngest player ever, after his brother.

England are going to win something in the next few years unfortunately...

[Trequartista20]

Seán Maguire and Scott Hogan on as subs in Preston v Birmingham too - as is Jobe Bellingham, Jude's younger brother. Turned 16 in September and on for his league debut. He's their second youngest player ever, after his brother.

England are going to win something in the next few years unfortunately...

Maybe Spain will, too. Who cares? My only concern is the Irish national team.

[Trequartista20]

The Championship is, in relative terms, of an extremely good standard; one of the strongest in Europe by most metrics, outwith the big 5 or 6.

A strong Irish presence in that league can only be a good thing.

The great Irish Italia '90 squad that made the Quarter-Finals had 9 of the 22 playing playing outside the top-flight, by the way.

[samhaydenjr]

The championship is probably where at least half of out team is going to come from ~ from now on / present time. That’s the way it is.

Quick note - the legendary 1990 World Cup Squad had only 12 players in the English top tier plus Aldridge in La Liga - 2 were playing for Celtic, six were in the old Second Division and John Byrne was with Le Havre in the second level of the French system. And this was long before the Bosman ruling and the influx of players from Europe, South America and Africa

[samhaydenjr]

The Championship is, in relative terms, of an extremely good standard; one of the strongest in Europe by most metrics, outwith the big 5 or 6.

A strong Irish presence in that league can only be a good thing.

The great Irish Italia '90 squad that made the Quarter-Finals had 9 of the 22 playing playing outside the top-flight, by the way.

Whoops, didn't see you had already made my point

[pineapple stu]

In fairness, of the six in the Second Division, only Moran was really getting game time. Peyton, McLoughlin, Stapleton, Kelly and Slaven weren't. We've more third tier players than that these days. (And of course the changes in the game since then make it very hard to compare second tier then v second tier now)

12 players in the Premier League (seven across the top four clubs, and key players too), two in La Liga and one in France - we'd be delighted with that squad these days!

[Demesne Lad]

Straight into the team. Right wing back. Manning left wing back. Obafemi on the bench.

Good few starts in the Championship today actually. Knight, Ebosele, Egan, McGoldrick, O'Dowda, Connolly, McNamara, Taylor, Szmodics, Shipley, Browne, Cunningham, Dunne, Molumby and Robinson.

That's on top of McGuinness, Collins, Lenihan and Travers in the earlier kick offs.

That's 20 players up for selection (excluding McGoldrick) and there's a team in that.

Plus O'Leary (Bristol City), though it wasn't a happy outing for him.

[SkStu]

Goal and an assist for Christie today who is impressing on loan. His assist was for Obafemi’s goal.

[Bielsa´s irish]

Great!!!

[Demesne Lad]

An interesting piece on Cyrus Christie and racism on the BBC Wales website this evening: Cyrus Christie: 'We must keep highlighting racism', says on-loan Swansea City defender - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60402847)

[third policeman]

An interesting piece on Cyrus Christie and racism on the BBC Wales website this evening: Cyrus Christie: 'We must keep highlighting racism', says on-loan Swansea City defender - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60402847)

Comes across very well, and I have felt that he’s been unfairly criticised at times. Apart from O’Neill’s ill judged decision to play him in midfield, he’s never let us down. Honest pro and decent human being. Good on him.

[JR89]

Comes across very well, and I have felt that he’s been unfairly criticised at times. Apart from O’Neill’s ill judged decision to play him in midfield, he’s never let us down. Honest pro and decent human being. Good on him.

And yet he didn't do too bad in midfield compared to the others that played that Nations League campaign. Though it doesn't say much because we were poor. Battered by Wales and then parked the bus to avoid being spanked by Denmark.

At the time the environment was hostile. You had the Roy Keane situation, talks that players had lost confidence in MON and many fans calling for change. Christie just happened to get caught in the middle of it when MON decided to play him in midfield after that Wales battering and him only finding out when he arrived at the stadium. Which shows it wasn't even worked on in training.

[JR89]

Obafemi and Christie linking up for the third goal. Obafemi also got the assist for the second goal.

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[Trequartista20]

Contract with Fulham expires next month and is being linked with Forest, Watford, Konyaspor and Fenerbahce.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/transfer-news/nottingham-forest-place-former-loan-7081914

[Snapshot]

Comes across very well, and I have felt that he’s been unfairly criticised at times. Apart from O’Neill’s ill judged decision to play him in midfield, he’s never let us down. Honest pro and decent human being. Good on him.


And yet he didn't do too bad in midfield compared to the others that played that Nations League campaign. Though it doesn't say much because we were poor. Battered by Wales and then parked the bus to avoid being spanked by Denmark.

At the time the environment was hostile. You had the Roy Keane situation, talks that players had lost confidence in MON and many fans calling for change. Christie just happened to get caught in the middle of it when MON decided to play him in midfield after that Wales battering and him only finding out when he arrived at the stadium. Which shows it wasn't even worked on in training.

Two excellent posts from February. I also don't understand why Christie has often been glibly parked in the not-good-enough basket. That midfield misadventure was not of his making - played at full-back or wing-back he's a skilful and creative option for Ireland.

[John83]

I think he was dismissed here long before he was played in midfield. I always thought his pace was an asset in attack, and if it weren't for Coleman he'd have a lot more caps and be acknowledged as a decent player. Some players are just stuck being compared with someone else.

[Demesne Lad]

While Swansea would have liked to sign Christie after his very successful loan spell, it's reported that the gap between his salary expectations and Swansea's budget may see him going instead to Nottingham Forest or Watford (FLW, 20 May)-- or further afield?

[Trequartista20]

Close to joining Preston, according to reports. What would they be wanting with another right wingback when they already have Browne?

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/preston-north-end-summer-signing-24205201