TG4 shows Rangers/Celtic game on Wed

[Éanna]

campaign to stop the Irish flag being flown at Parkhead.
good on him. if they want to be an irish team, they can play in an irish league. they're british. end of

[Éanna]

So why do Celtic have almost as many fans in Corcaigh than the local soccer team?Or are you all 'West Br*ts' ,as well?! :confused: ;)
I didn't say their fans were British. I said the club was. I'm a Real Madrid fan, but I'm not spanish.

[Plastic Paddy]

I LOVE YOU PRSO, I DO
I LOVE YOU PRSO,I DO
I LOVE YOU PRSO, I DO
OH PRSO I LOVE YOU!

God I LOOOVE seeing Celtic lose!

Tell you what, I'm sure a few of us here would club together and happily fund a trip for you to go to Glasgow and see your new favourite player at his home ground. You can sing your wee song to your heart's content there. And you could be sure of a wonderful welcome from your fellow Prso-worshippers. They'd eat you for breakfast, boy. You see, you'd be just another Feenyun b***ard to many of their fans. Rather than just another bandwagon-jumping a***hole as you clearly are here.


Support your local team
Support your local team
We all do it, so should you
Support your local team!

If I had a "local" team, maybe I would. Having opted to leave the three streets either side of where I was born and see the world, the issue is no longer quite as clear. When you grow up and leave Cork (and I don't mean moving to Cobh, Midleton or Fermoy btw), you'll understand a little more about the reasons why people don't always support their "local" team.

:ball: PP

[liam88]

So why do Celtic have almost as many fans in Corcaigh than the local soccer team?Or are you all 'West Br*ts' ,as well?! :confused: ;) Inc.yer own RMK,'Bless' 'im! :o

Dav-this is the first and hopefully only time I'm ever going to have to say this to ya coz I respect you so much but-your having a laugh!

almost as many?!??!

I take back my comment if that was sarcasm! Take it from a Corcaigh lad that thousands more support the Celts than do the second best Cork team ;) !

I have so much time for EL teams-I love Rambs so much and they have always been, are and will always be my team but so are Celtic!
Celtic aside-I have so much respect for you Eanna and aintdub for turning out to support your local team-which I do at ever oppurtunity; but you have ruined all of that respect by supporting a (let's face it) loyalist and anti-Irish club just for the sake of demonstrating your dislike for Celtic.
I think that we all accpet that Celtic have Irish roots-no one can deny Brother Wilfrids nationality or his reasons for setting uo Celtic and surely this gives every Irishman or Irishwomen a right to support them.
As PAt said this has been done to death-none of us no matter what we believe are going to shift so why support ra*gers over it? Would you support scumfield if it was them playing us? If you would then whatever, but it shows a bit of disrespect for our own Rebel County. What would Mick Collins think of his fellow Cork folk singing sogns of support for a club tied to Loyali*ts. Yes they are-Johnny A*air in the VIP box, Shares owned by the O*ange order etc. etc.
PP raises a good point.
LAds let drop it and keep our views of Celtic to ourselves-as has been said this thread is for discussing Wednesday nights game no the history behind the Celtic Football Club!

[liam88]

I'm a Real Madrid fan, but I'm not spanish.
So why have a go at us for being Celtic fans!

HEY EVERYONE EVERYONE! Let's all sing songs of support to the next team that plays Real Madrid even if they are bigots or racists! Even if it's Marg*et Tha*chers 5-a-side-team lets cheer them on becuase Eanna supports and team that doesn't play in Erin and this is just plain wrong!

[Poor Student]

good on him. if they want to be an irish team, they can play in an irish league. they're british. end of

Eh, no. Nationality cannot be such a pedantic matter. Athletico Bilbao play in the Kingdom of Spain and play in La Liga but they consider themselves Basque and not Catalan. If we wanted to be very pedantic they are Spanish but they don't see themselves as such. Aukland Kings did play in the Australian league till it collapsed but it didn't make them Austalian. The nationality of a club is not defined by the league it plays in. I am not saying Celtic are exclusively Irish but you can hardly describe them as British in such black and white terms.

[eoinh]

Eh, no. Nationality cannot be such a pedantic matter. Athletico Bilbao play in the Kingdom of Spain and play in La Liga but they consider themselves Basque and not Catalan.

Err yes. And neither would people from Madrid consider themselves as Catalan either. Last time I looked Barcelona was the capital of Catalonia!

[Superhoops]

Ummm...I'll think you find it is. Check with UEFA if you cannot accept the geography...........
What about Carfiff, Swansea and Wrexham?

[eoinh]

So why do Celtic have almost as many fans in Corcaigh than the local soccer team?Or are you all 'West Br*ts' ,as well?! :confused: ;)


Well by that reasoning Chelsea, must be an Irish club as well. Because since they became more prominent (I cant use the word successful as they havent won anything) you tend to bump into a lot more "life long Chelsea fans"

[eoinh]

What about Carfiff, Swansea and Wrexham?

Swansea and Wrexham are welsh i can confirm. Not sure about "Carfif".
So Welsh in fact they will not be allowed to enter european competition if they ever get to win the premiership or FA CUP as the english FA wont allow it.

I can confirm to you as well that Wales is part of Britain.

[eoinh]

Or Derry City for that matter.

Ironically, isn't it Celtic's biggest wish to join the English league too?

I believe it is yes. Rangers are the ones dragging their heels about this idea ironicly.

BTW why do Celtic fans insist on calling Rangers "the huns". This was a derogatory term used aginst the enemies of the British Empire. Any enemy of the British empire would be a friend of mine.

C'mon my magyar friends!

[eoinh]

Btw,the 'Huns' is a term to describe the more undesirable R*ngers element,who see themselves as being more 'Br*tish', :rolleyes: than the Brits,FFS!

Yes that my point. What we think now is not what was thought in earlier times. Celtic fans labelled Rangers fans as Huns. A grave insult.


In World War Germans were called "Huns." In the name of patriotism, musicians no longer played Bach and Beethoven. Celtic fans were quite happy to see themselves as British and to give their opponents the same label as that which applied to the opponents of the British empire.

[liam88]

Building on What Dav said-up until the recent opening of the Glasgow airport offic Celtic store there were more Celtic stores in Ireland than in Scotland! Hwoever of course because one is in Belfast and one is in Derry and Conor see's everything so black and white this makes them UK stores because Belfast is part of the UK which means it has nothing to do with Ireland or the Irish people and no one Irish can have any alligance with Belfast because they will be UK folk.
Belfast=UK=Part of the Queens Kingdom
Derry=UK=Part of the Queens Kingdom

tut tut how can anyone from either of these places dissasociate themselves for her maj*sty......

keep it coming Conor or is it one rule for cities and another for football clubs?

:D :D

[liam88]

O aye and keeping on topic Chris Sutton came back today and put one in the net alogn with 2 from John Harston. Granted it was vs ICT but a goal on the first game back is excellent whoever it's against......we could have really done with him on Wednesday night thiough great to see John HArtson carry on scorring..........good luck to the bhoys next Saturday :D :D :ball:

[Poor Student]

Err yes. And neither would people from Madrid consider themselves as Catalan either. Last time I looked Barcelona was the capital of Catalonia!

Had my wires crossed. Meant Spanish not Catalan. But I maintain the point.

[Junior]

Aha, now this is totally different to idea that they are an Irish club.

I accept that Celtic are a club of the Irish diaspora, that Irish people abroad will look to Celtic. Which is completely different to saying that they are an Irish club. Ajax had a reputation as a club with many Jewish followers, so it may be correct to suggest that they are a club of the Jewish diaspora (depends on what meaning you give to that little word 'of'). In any sense though, what it does not do, of course, is make them an Israeli club...

Where in this thread has someone said Celtic are an Irish club? I'll answer it for you. NOWHERE. Your broken record continues to play, when a thread merely mentions the word 'celtic'. I guess you can't help but want to be part of the 'celtic supporting community'

Anyway on to much more important matters.

Good 3-0 win today and 3 important points ahead of next saturday.

Sutton came back and played well in midfield, scored and early goal and was rested on 80 mins.

John Hartson scored a brace and continues to put in a good shift - it seems to me he's putting in the extra effort in order to get a new contract or at least ensure he gets a decent move away if celtic decide not to renew his contract.

Aiden Mc played a full game which was great. He gives celtic something different in that he has the ability to run at defences and beat people. However, I thought some of his simple stuiff was sloppy, passes too short or behind a player and losing posession in what could have been dangerous areas against better opposition. However, he's a long way to go & every game under his belt will improve his experience - hope he gets an opportunity on Tues.

Another clean sheet will no doubt help 'the sieves' confidence, with a couple of excelent last ditch tackles and blocks in the closing minutes (when the game was won) showing a good desire to keep the ICT score tally 'zilch'

[eoinh]

I have so much time for EL teams-I love Rambs so much and they have always been, are and will always be my team but so are Celtic!


Err, maybe you should post more on the Ramblers forum then!

Liam you registered in August 2003 and i remember quite distinctly that you chose Cobh at the time because you noticed there were very few Ramblers fans. That was your reason.

Congrats on being being a very literate one year old.

[Pat O' Banton]

Ajax had a reputation as a club with many Jewish followers, so it may be correct to suggest that they are a club of the Jewish diaspora (depends on what meaning you give to that little word 'of'). In any sense though, what it does not do, of course, is make them an Israeli club...


Were Ajax set up with any spefic idea of helping the Jewish community in Amsterdam? I think not.

However I think that if you wish to debate this point it will at least be a novel change from the Celtic arguement that has been going on here for ages. Seriously lads we know exactly what you think, you know what we think, has anyones mind been changed on this issue? No. So why is this still going on.

[eoinh]

Were Ajax set up with any spefic idea of helping the Jewish community in Amsterdam? I think not.

However I think that if you wish to debate this point it will at least be a novel change from the Celtic arguement

Well how about? (http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/reviews/story.jsp?story=372463)

[Éanna]

So why have a go at us for being Celtic fans!

HEY EVERYONE EVERYONE! Let's all sing songs of support to the next team that plays Real Madrid even if they are bigots or racists! Even if it's Marg*et Tha*chers 5-a-side-team lets cheer them on becuase Eanna supports and team that doesn't play in Erin and this is just plain wrong!
way to miss the point :rolleyes:

[liam88]

Liam you registered in August 2003 and i remember quite distinctly that you chose Cobh at the time because you noticed there were very few Ramblers fans. That was your reason.


What ya saying that for?
I chose Cobh because my family is from Cobh (well half Cobh half Tip)! Because Trixie who is my great uncle does loads of work for the club! Because my family are life long Ramblers fans!
You my friend are a total eejit-chose Cobh becyase there were very few Ramblers fans? Who the heck are you?
Don't go spreading lies like that around!

[liam88]

you chose Cobh at the time because you noticed there were very few Ramblers fans. That was your reason.

Congrats on being being a very literate one year old.

That's harsh, that's a lie and that's below the belt

[Junior]

Well how about? (http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/reviews/story.jsp?story=372463)

Congratulations on finding a related link woo hoo!!!!! but what does your little paragraph actually say about Ajax being formed for the Jewish community etc.. etc... :confused:

[Pat O' Banton]

Well how about? (http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/reviews/story.jsp?story=372463)


There's a good section about this in Brilliant Orange, which looks at the Dutch national team, and Ajax. It points out that while the fans wave the Star of David very few of them, certainly from the F-side, have any conection with the Jewish faith. Also as Junior points out there is no history of the club being set up to help Jewish people in Amsterdam and certainly no history of the club flying the Star of David to represent their history and identity. Indeed you may find that Israel was in fact Palestine when the club was set up, but thats a debate for another page :eek:

[Junior]

Another thing I love about Celtic fans. ...



They are able to make sweeping conclusions about your political outlook depending on where you stand on the 'Celtic' debate. Because, as we all know, they are so much more Republican than the rest of us...

Oh the irony......................

[sligoman]

Why is this thread still going??????? The game is over the Bhoys lost :D

[liam88]

Another thing I love about Celtic fans. They are able to make sweeping conclusions about your political outlook depending on where you stand on the 'Celtic' debate. Because, as we all know, they are so much more Republican than the rest of us...

I never said that-I asked you a question that you still havn't answered-is it one rule for cities and another for Football Clubs?
So Celtic is in Britain and you say that makes it a British club.....Belfast is in the UK so does that mean it is rightfully the Queens own?

Buliding on this the Republic of Ireland London Supporters Club, which I know has a fair few members on here, was founded in England and is based in England so does this make it an English organistation?

..........I think not ;)

Oh and Eoinh notice I chose to make my 1000th post on my club's board despite the fact that not as many people will see it!

[Éanna]

IBuliding on this the Republic of Ireland London Supporters Club, which I know has a fair few members on here, was founded in England and is based in England so does this make it an English organistation?
its members are irish, and support ireland. not the case with celtic

[liam88]

its members are irish, and support ireland. not the case with celtic
So the Irish Celtic supporters who support Ireland are fine and legitmate.........

[eoinh]

yes liam its fine for irish people to support ireland.


Personally i love Luch-Energiya Vladivostok. Ive never gone to see them play, have no connection with them but Jesus i cant be irish and proud.

I heard their matchs with Metallurg-Kuzbass Novokuznetsk are something else. In 1994 my uncles dads brothers son in law was over there. Ever since then ive loved Vladivostok.

Just in case they go bad ive a back up team Lisma-Mordovia Saransk. Im kind of leaning towards them ever since the great Ilya Borodin signed for them. Well hes supposed to be great ive never actaully gone to see him play. Whenever Aeroflot get their prices down ill be over there in a shot .... err maybe.

[liam88]

yes liam its fine for irish people to support ireland.


Personally i love Luch-Energiya Vladivostok. Ive never gone to see them play, have no connection with them but Jesus i cant be irish and proud.

I heard their matchs with Metallurg-Kuzbass Novokuznetsk are something else. In 1994 my uncles dads brothers son in law was over there. Ever since then ive loved Vladivostok.

Just in case they go bad ive a back up team Lisma-Mordovia Saransk. Im kind of leaning towards them ever since the great Ilya Borodin signed for them. Well hes supposed to be great ive never actaully gone to see him play. Whenever Aeroflot get their prices down ill be over there in a shot .... err maybe.

That still doesn't justify the rubbish you said about ma reasons for supporting Rambs.............

[Junior]

yes liam its fine for irish people to support ireland.


Personally i love Luch-Energiya Vladivostok. Ive never gone to see them play, have no connection with them but Jesus i cant be irish and proud.

I heard their matchs with Metallurg-Kuzbass Novokuznetsk are something else. In 1994 my uncles dads brothers son in law was over there. Ever since then ive loved Vladivostok.

Just in case they go bad ive a back up team Lisma-Mordovia Saransk. Im kind of leaning towards them ever since the great Ilya Borodin signed for them. Well hes supposed to be great ive never actaully gone to see him play. Whenever Aeroflot get their prices down ill be over there in a shot .... err maybe.

Prize for most irrelevant & rediculous post yet.

[Dublin12]

Anyway..getting back to the original thread title ;) is the game on the box this weekend?,and do we have to go through all this again after the next match?,this thread could go on forever!.I think Celtic will win this weekend 0-2 aswell :D

[eoinh]

Prize for most irrelevant & rediculous post yet.

yes, sorry for using non british football team names. it must be confusing for you.

[eoinh]

Davros i would say of anyone here that ive travelled the most and seen football matchs in more nations than anyone here.

From the "O'Higgins club in Santiago in Chile to the Finnish national stadium ive been there, seen it and done it. I was chased out of Nuremburgs stadium this summer by a german security guard for gods sake.

The only way Irish football is to succeed is by belief in ourselves and what we can achieve. If a nation like slovenia or norway can get teams into the champions league then we should be able to as well. Instead we get this we "must worship" celtic crap constantly. Why? They are a foreign team to me. Im not British full stop. Im not estonian so i dont support Jk Viljandi Tulevik, its as simply as that.

The unreal levels of hype whipped up by sky sports has just gone bonkers. Recently i saw a team in the FAI Intermediate Cup called West something Albion!!??!! They were obviuosly named after West Bromwich Albion. Two things struck me - why would you want to name yourself after a really really crappy club and do these morons know what Albion actually means?

I know all about the "Diaspora". My brother lives and is married in England. Thankfully no one has to leave Ireland anymore for economic reasons (hes over there for love -ahhh).

You yourself are over there - its obviously not for economic reasons. it could be for a whole host of other reasons - love, you like the area you are in, health. I dont know and i dont really care. However have you ever considered this - you keep going on about the OSC etc.
Now from my point of view if you truely believed this you would not be over in britain contributing to their economy when you could have a job over here.
If you had done that in France (left for germany and worked) during WW2 the French resistance would have shot you the minute you returned to French soil.

Liam - you have some seriously warped ideas about what Irish people are like. The thought that all Irish people would support Belfast celtic is silly. If there was a united league (hopefully) in the future and they were successfully i would hate them. Just as much as Belfast Celtic fans would grow to hate to Cork City. I dont particularly like Shamrock rovers despite them contributing over 60 players to the irish national team (yes over 60, count them Liam!)
Maybe its them you should worship. Thery produced one of Irelands greatest ever players - Frank O'Neill.

Rant Over!

[Junior]

yes, sorry for using non british football team names. it must be confusing for you.

Not at all - but I stand by my comment of it being totally irrelevant


Davros i would say of anyone here that ive travelled the most and seen football matchs in more nations than anyone here.

So you are super fan! why didn't you tell us this earlier eoinh and we could have worshipped you from day one.

I know you wouldn't be so stupid and pig ignorant to claim such an honour without actually knowing the other 2,500 members or so on this Internet forum. From what I've read its fairly obvious that a few on here are fairly well travelled, but hey I'll bow to your obvious better knowledge :rolleyes:



The only way Irish football is to succeed is by belief in ourselves and what we can achieve. If a nation like slovenia or norway can get teams into the champions league then we should be able to as well. Instead we get this we "must worship" celtic crap constantly. Why? They are a foreign team to me. Im not British full stop. Im not estonian so i dont support Jk Viljandi Tulevik, its as simply as that.

Why are you banging the EL trumpet again? it has nothing to do with this thread - do you only have one record?

You do not have to 'worship' celtic, in fact dislike them all you want - but don't continue to tell me WHY I support them as if you know something I don't.

PS: Did the German security guard catch you? - it could explain alot :D

[liam88]

Liam - you have some seriously warped ideas about what Irish people are like.


Wierd that considering i'm Irish as are ma family :rolleyes:



The thought that all Irish people would support Belfast celtic is silly.

Never said all-just that when they were playing they were one of the most popular teams in Ireland (North and Republic)



Rant Over!

Good! At last!

You still have justified your rubbish about me and Ramblers..............still waiting :rolleyes:

[eoinh]

The thought that all Irish people would support Belfast celtic is silly.



Never said all-just that when they were playing they were one of the most popular teams in Ireland (North and Republic)

Yes you did Liam.


and once more all of Ireland supported them would you anti-Celts be so quick to dismiss them as a 'yoo-kay' team just because they don't play in the Republic

"and once more all of Ireland supported them" - They drew their support mainly from Belfast, Liam. Most people nowadays wouldnt even know they existed (unfortunately).



Yeah,right......& my dad was not as big as your dad

This was your response in saying that i had gone to a lot of matchs abroad.

Davros you had called LOI supporters parochial. In fact it was

Btw,a note to our more parochial EL'friends',try Travelling outside Ireland


The point is LOI fans do go to a lot of matchs. People like colm were in Holland, France and Sweden supporting their team.

This season I only got to see a third division german match involving TUOS Koblenz against Bayern (exotic, I know :rolleyes: )



This has got to be the stupidest thread ever on foot.ie


PS Liam i never said you werent Irish I said you had a wierd opinion of Irish people. And Liam there was i championing you recently. CLick (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=19311)

[Junior]

This has got to be the stupidest thread ever on foot.ie

unfortunately that is what happens when any thread mentioning celtic gets hijacked by the repetitve celtic bashers.

Hopefully you won't bother next time.

[liam88]

PS Liam i never said you werent Irish I said you had a wierd opinion of Irish people. And Liam there was i championing you recently.

"Doesnt know his history from his arse " yeah cheers :rolleyes:
Ok mabye I did say all of Ireland supported them but they were one of the most popular teams in Ireland at the time........but of course I don't know my history from my arse do I ;)

[Pat O' Banton]

This season I only got to see a third division german match involving TUOS Koblenz against Bayern (exotic, I know :rolleyes: )



Ha, your just a glory hunting, big game man - Few seasons back I went to see Barcalona C against Tortosa in the Spanish fourth division and I brought the misses :p (hight of romance :o :D )