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Pablo Escobar
03/08/2014, 2:02 PM
Get real Pablo - you say Not an intently malicious side, but you label charge Towell with malice! Nonsense!!




By the way the post you quoted made no such claim about Cork
I actually had misread jinxy's post. Apologies to all involved. I think we're basically singing from the same hymn-sheet anyway.

poster
03/08/2014, 2:05 PM
Surprised Chris Forrester's awkward lunge from behind on Alan Keane hasn't got a mention. It was arguably a worse challenge that Danny North's on Conor McCormack.

desaintsno.12
03/08/2014, 3:08 PM
(sitting here waiting on Pats fans to bring up the first game of the season)

i'll take this one …..


dirtiest team i have seen in a long long time

PartySaint
03/08/2014, 4:31 PM
Surprised Chris Forrester's awkward lunge from behind on Alan Keane hasn't got a mention. It was arguably a worse challenge that Danny North's on Conor McCormack.

Was that in the first half or second? Can't say I remember it.

Nah Nah Nah Nah
03/08/2014, 4:42 PM
First half. Didn't think it was as bad as Norths but should have been a yellow.

poster
04/08/2014, 9:49 AM
Was that in the first half or second? Can't say I remember it.

First half, in front of the Pat's bench. Keane was running towards the ball, never going to get it mind you and Forrester jumped in from behind and took the legs from under him. How it wasn't even a yellow was astonishing.

Must be because the ref was a Dub. :angel:

White Horse
04/08/2014, 10:34 AM
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/MarkJM/Twitter-saoirsestephens-IwasattheCorkvDundalkcopy.jpg

Somehow I don't think she was saying this was a good thing. To quite a few LOI fans it would amount to a good LOI away day.

adamd164
04/08/2014, 11:09 AM
Searched? At a football match?!

nigel-harps1954
04/08/2014, 11:13 AM
Searched? At a football match?!

That's what you took from that tweet?

adamd164
04/08/2014, 11:16 AM
That's what you took from that tweet?

Clearly everything else is unacceptable. But was this a home or away supporter? Where did the incidents occur? They should be, and hopefully were, reported.

nigel-harps1954
04/08/2014, 11:36 AM
The very next tweet states, "We had to sit with the Dundalk supporters just because my dad and uncle are from Dundalk."

Followed by, "When we got in some idiot set off a flare right next to me and my wee sister."

And then, "I don't like Dundalk fans that much."

adamd164
04/08/2014, 12:00 PM
OK, fair enough so. Hopefully she's not put off coming back to more games because incidents are very rare in TX.

CityRebel
04/08/2014, 12:23 PM
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/MarkJM/Twitter-saoirsestephens-IwasattheCorkvDundalkcopy.jpg

Somehow I don't think she was saying this was a good thing. To quite a few LOI fans it would amount to a good LOI away day.
A small minority of away fans didn't behave themselves, there were quite a few seats broken and I think some metal barriers were ripped up too. Otherwise a great support.



Towell's challenge in the first half definitely deserved a yellow, the slippery conditions just made it look far worse. I wouldn't consider Cork to be a dirty team, they can be quite physical though, but I would agree with Paulo E above the ref got some decisions badly wrong in the first half.

I watched the game back and the free kick given against Gaynor on Meenan for example was ridiculous, he clearly won the ball. Also the two booked, one each side for hand bags when Dlk got a free mid way through first half was another example of unnecessary over reaction by the ref. A final warning would have sufficed.

And to balance things out, I thought we were very lucky to get away with not conceding a penalty late on, the ball did look as if it hit Boyle and possibly changed direction slightly, we were fortunate with that for sure, but everyone has seen more 'stonewall' decisions for penalties not given in other games, in this instance the Lino didn't flag either, so it appears we got away with it.
Fair assessment oriel, certainly balances out the head cases who think we're dirty and their own team are angels, we can be a physical team at times but the likes of Dundalk and Pats can match it.

White Horse
04/08/2014, 12:52 PM
A small minority of away fans didn't behave themselves, there were quite a few seats broken and I think some metal barriers were ripped up too. Otherwise a great support.

I had to move seat twice as the seats were falling apart. I looked underneath and there were bolts and nuts lying on the concrete. A bit of maintenance is required as these things could be used as missiles by some head cases.

The biggest gripe I heard was about the toilets. Dundalk's away support usually contains a large number of girls/women. At half time, the poor stewards were very flustered when asked "where are the toilets for women".

Dundalk are as bad (or worse) than anyone when it comes to facilities for away fans. However, separate toilets for women is really an essential thing and all clubs should be forced to provide them.

dundalkfc10
04/08/2014, 1:35 PM
I had to move seat twice as the seats were falling apart. I looked underneath and there were bolts and nuts lying on the concrete. A bit of maintenance is required as these things could be used as missiles by some head cases.

The biggest gripe I heard was about the toilets. Dundalk's away support usually contains a large number of girls/women. At half time, the poor stewards were very flustered when asked "where are the toilets for women".

Dundalk are as bad (or worse) than anyone when it comes to facilities for away fans. However, separate toilets for women is really an essential thing and all clubs should be forced to provide them.

Their was nearly a crush because "some some bizzare reason" the front 5 or 6 rows were covered meaning when we scored the winner during the celebrations everyone ran to the Dundalk players celebrating down the front and had nowhere to go resulting in a mini crush against the barriers, seats that were in front of the covered rows.

Very surprised nobody was seriously hurt.

As for no toilets for the girls. Steward tried to tell me and my little niece who is 12 we couldnt go around to the home end for her to use the toilet, that she would have to wait until the game was over or use the mens. Thank God their was a gardai close by, who rigtly opened the barrier and let us through.

CityRebel
04/08/2014, 1:43 PM
Their was nearly a crush because "some some bizzare reason" the front 5 or 6 rows were covered meaning when we scored the winner during the celebrations everyone ran to the Dundalk players celebrating down the front and had nowhere to go resulting in a mini crush against the barriers, seats that were in front of the covered rows.

Very surprised nobody was seriously hurt.

As for no toilets for the girls. Steward tried to tell me and my little niece who is 12 we couldnt go around to the home end for her to use the toilet, that she would have to wait until the game was over or use the mens. Thank God their was a gardai close by, who rigtly opened the barrier and let us through.
It's standard good practice in stadia all over the world to net off the front rows of seats to stop fans from coming on to the pitch, I don't see how you can have any complaints about that.

oriel
04/08/2014, 2:03 PM
I wasn't at the game, but surely TC has to be considered the best stadium in the league, it's the only one all seated and covered on 4 sides, and probably on par with a lot of English Lge 1 grounds.

Maybe they need to sort out access to toilets, but good Christ look what we have to offer away fans who go the terrace. In saying this, glad to hear one of our supporters got sorted out with the child. Cork would appear to be a well run and friendly club, offering decent facilities, so I'd be surprised if there was complaints from many of our fans who travelled down.

dundalkfc10
04/08/2014, 2:38 PM
It's standard good practice in stadia all over the world to net off the front rows of seats to stop fans from coming on to the pitch, I don't see how you can have any complaints about that.

No its not, Some clubs choose to do it and for Europa league/Champions League Games they have to do it because the advertising boards are higher than normal games.

That aside, There was no need for all the barriers in front of the covered seats as these are what caused the problems.

White Horse
04/08/2014, 2:38 PM
It's standard good practice in stadia all over the world to net off the front rows of seats to stop fans from coming on to the pitch, I don't see how you can have any complaints about that.

I think Cork had problems with fans of some teams invading the pitch in the pitch. In that case, I can understand why they netted off the front rows.

To be honest the only criticism I have is no toilet facilities for girls and women. However, as said earlier we are in no position to criticise others considering our away facilities.

Turners Cross is a really good stadium and when full, like it was on Friday, it provides an atmosphere like no other stadium in the country.

El-Pietro
04/08/2014, 2:44 PM
Their was nearly a crush because "some some bizzare reason" the front 5 or 6 rows were covered meaning when we scored the winner during the celebrations everyone ran to the Dundalk players celebrating down the front and had nowhere to go resulting in a mini crush against the barriers, seats that were in front of the covered rows.


You can blame the Bohs fans who encroached on the pitch last season for that.

CityRebel
04/08/2014, 2:46 PM
No its not, Some clubs choose to do it and for Europa league/Champions League Games they have to do it because the advertising boards are higher than normal games.

That aside, There was no need for all the barriers in front of the covered seats as these are what caused the problems.
Yes it is, refer to the FA Stadium Safety Good Practice Guide, don't argue with the facts. The netting caused a few fans to leave their row of seats and try to run down to the front of the stand? Magic netting.

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/more/stadium-safety



I think Cork had problems with fans of some teams invading the pitch in the pitch. In that case, I can understand why they netted off the front rows.

To be honest the only criticism I have is no toilet facilities for girls and women. However, as said earlier we are in no position to criticise others considering our away facilities.

Turners Cross is a really good stadium and when full, like it was on Friday, it provides an atmosphere like no other stadium in the country.
Spot on.

dundalkfc10
04/08/2014, 2:50 PM
Yes it is, refer to the FA Stadium Safety Good Practice Guide, don't argue with the facts. The netting caused a few fans to leave their row of seats and try to run down to the front of the stand? Magic netting.

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/more/stadium-safety



Spot on.

Name me one Premiership game/Championship Game in the last 5 years where the front rows were covered with netting?

CityRebel
04/08/2014, 2:59 PM
Name me one Premiership game/Championship Game in the last 5 years where the front rows were covered with netting?
I don't watch Premiership or Championship football. Are pitch incursions a big problem in the Premier League? We've had quite a few at the Cross, hence why we follow good practice guidelines to prevent future incursions. Are you going to argue against good practice? It's amazing, like you say, that UEFA allow this dangerous netting to be used in European games.

dundalkfc10
04/08/2014, 3:04 PM
I don't watch Premiership or Championship football. Are pitch incursions a big problem in the Premier League? We've had quite a few at the Cross, hence why we follow good practice guidelines to prevent future incursions. Are you going to argue against good practice? It's amazing, like you say, that UEFA allow this dangerous netting to be used in European games.

Why not just do what Sligo do and put Dye on the walls at the front? Solution Solved!

CityRebel
04/08/2014, 3:11 PM
Why not just do what Sligo do and put Dye on the walls at the front? Solution Solved!
Why would we do that? The walls are pretty low anyway. The netting is a much better solution to pitch incursions.

brendy_éire
05/08/2014, 10:06 PM
Why not just do what Sligo do and put Dye on the walls at the front? Solution Solved!

That paint was ridiculous. Explainable only as the latest stage in Sligo's quest to turn their ground into least enjoyable in the country.
The netting is shocking too. It's a lazy substitute for proper stewarding and enforcement of stadium regulations.
Did the Dundalk fans have access to hot food (as per licensing) on Friday night, of out interest?
There was none at that end when we were down in May, but they let us into the home end. Judging by the video of the match, they had a pile of security not present at our game.

Nesta99
05/08/2014, 11:02 PM
Name me one Premiership game/Championship Game in the last 5 years where the front rows were covered with netting?

EPL clubs have an endless supply of stewarding to prevent pitch encursions although it doesnt always work. Brendy mentioned it but as opposed to lazy stewarding it is probably due to a lack of resources to provide adaquate cover. The inconsistency of numbers of travelling support doesnt help either i suppose. My own experience is that seats are covered in EPL grounds between opposition fans for segregation. I have yet to see Dundalk fans jump a wall on to the pitch to celebrate a goal, it seems to be a Shams phenomonen, but i shall never say never!

bluewhitearmy
05/08/2014, 11:10 PM
EPL clubs have an endless supply of stewarding to prevent pitch encursions although it doesnt always work. Brendy mentioned it but as opposed to lazy stewarding it is probably due to a lack of resources to provide adaquate cover. The inconsistency of numbers of travelling support doesnt help either i suppose. My own experience is that seats are covered in EPL grounds between opposition fans for segregation. I have yet to see Dundalk fans jump a wall on to the pitch to celebrate a goal, it seems to be a Shams phenomonen, but i shall never say never!

Going by pictures I have seen on twitter through the season Dundalk fans have jumped on the pitch in Oriel a few times.

Nesta99
05/08/2014, 11:14 PM
This season I havent seen it happen. Never said it never happens but it is not habitual. The fence shed side is quite high so would take a good bit of effort by which time stewards are there. With improved security many such issues have been put a stop to.

Dunny
05/08/2014, 11:26 PM
This season I havent seen it happen. Never said it never happens but it is not habitual. The fence shed side is quite high so would take a good bit of effort by which time stewards are there. With improved security many such issues have been put a stop to.
Aye,you'll get the odd one off his head agit trying to be a hero in front of his mates and never makes it type but thats really all.Don't be minding some of our fans Twitter :want: :rolleyes:

razor
06/08/2014, 8:48 AM
I'm pretty sure at least one would have made it onto the pitch last Friday night had we not had the mesh and stewards across the front.

White Horse
06/08/2014, 9:23 AM
I'm pretty sure at least one would have made it onto the pitch last Friday night had we not had the mesh and stewards across the front.

I'd say you are right. Last minute winners in big games.

Charlie Darwin
08/08/2014, 3:04 AM
Going by pictures I have seen on twitter through the season Dundalk fans have jumped on the pitch in Oriel a few times.
Those are Shamrock Rovers fans.

ger121
08/08/2014, 8:57 AM
Those are Shamrock Rovers fans.

I was wondering where some of your support had vanished to. Bandwagon jumpers;)