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Barrypirlo
27/07/2014, 10:56 PM
As for loyalty in the aul the Blarney st situation just proves that most players don't care about the club they play for each year, to win an aoh and for most there players to leave is ludicrous it leaves the club in a bad situation.The days of clubmen are gone .
It's not that at all I'd say .. It's the players in the aul these days ... they actually think there professionals ... Huge egos ... Not many loyal players anymore. All jumping ship from club to club ...

1fortheTeam
27/07/2014, 10:58 PM
As for loyalty in the aul the Blarney st situation just proves that most players don't care about the club they play for each year, to win an aoh and for most there players to leave is ludicrous it leaves the club in a bad situation.The days of clubmen are gone .the situation is no situation the club is in great nick on and off the pitch and thats a personal opinion im not speaking for blarney st.

Pass pass pass
28/07/2014, 1:12 AM
As for loyalty in the aul the Blarney st situation just proves that most players don't care about the club they play for each year, to win an aoh and for most there players to leave is ludicrous it leaves the club in a bad situation.The days of clubmen are gone . john corcran and skilly left title winning sides to join blarney st. Mark nolan and barry o donovan left a promotion winning glen team. David crow left an aoh winning team. I know he left the club for work commitments in the first place so hed be the exception. But the professional game has led to this excessive movement. There are also too many clubs. Fellas get taken off these days rip there jerseys off and shout "im gone" "im gone". Loyalty is long gone.

HOTshot89
28/07/2014, 8:16 AM
john corcran and skilly left title winning sides to join blarney st. Mark nolan and barry o donovan left a promotion winning glen team. David crow left an aoh winning team. I know he left the club for work commitments in the first place so hed be the exception. But the professional game has led to this excessive movement. There are also too many clubs. Fellas get taken off these days rip there jerseys off and shout "im gone" "im gone". Loyalty is long gone.

Spot on!

1fortheTeam
28/07/2014, 10:29 AM
Spot on!its not shows what people know mark and barry won prem A mark as capt.

Barrypirlo
28/07/2014, 7:07 PM
john corcran and skilly left title winning sides to join blarney st. Mark nolan and barry o donovan left a promotion winning glen team. David crow left an aoh winning team. I know he left the club for work commitments in the first place so hed be the exception. But the professional game has led to this excessive movement. There are also too many clubs. Fellas get taken off these days rip there jerseys off and shout "im gone" "im gone". Loyalty is long gone. that's a brilliant post.

buzzkill
29/07/2014, 8:41 AM
john corcran and skilly left title winning sides to join blarney st. Mark nolan and barry o donovan left a promotion winning glen team. David crow left an aoh winning team. I know he left the club for work commitments in the first place so hed be the exception. But the professional game has led to this excessive movement. There are also too many clubs. Fellas get taken off these days rip there jerseys off and shout "im gone" "im gone". Loyalty is long gone.

They leave all these places because they think they have a chance at winning the league, in my eyes it's good old fashioned glory hunting!!! The days of loyalty are well gone, considering if you look at the players in question they've all nearly played for a different club over the past 4 or 5 seasons and to be honest that includes 1for as well. 80% of the players are no longer playing for the jersey or the club, it's for themselves.

Leaving that point, i'm hearing there's a fierce shift out the southside with Greenwood losing quite a few players? If it's true it's a right shame when you have an exodus from both the Mossie and AOH winning teams.

Hot Chilli
29/07/2014, 9:15 AM
They leave all these places because they think they have a chance at winning the league, in my eyes it's good old fashioned glory hunting!!! The days of loyalty are well gone, considering if you look at the players in question they've all nearly played for a different club over the past 4 or 5 seasons and to be honest that includes 1for as well. 80% of the players are no longer playing for the jersey or the club, it's for themselves.

Leaving that point, i'm hearing there's a fierce shift out the southside with Greenwood losing quite a few players? If it's true it's a right shame when you have an exodus from both the Mossie and AOH winning teams.

Greenwood finding it hard to put a squad together. Real shame that the manager seems to be getting little respect. A good football man.

Kilreen likely to benefit.

schoolboygodno9
29/07/2014, 12:17 PM
Greenwood finding it hard to put a squad together. Real shame that the manager seems to be getting little respect. A good football man.

Kilreen likely to benefit.
Kilreen are benefitting poo loyd and tundy rumoured to be training with them . Nags is off to ibiza soon hell bring back some luckyluckies with him no doubt to fill up the squad

killer"B"
29/07/2014, 12:31 PM
shame to see greenwood crumble like that if true a good good season in all last season .........

1fortheTeam
29/07/2014, 6:05 PM
They leave all these places because they think they have a chance at winning the league, in my eyes it's good old fashioned glory hunting!!! The days of loyalty are well gone, considering if you look at the players in question they've all nearly played for a different club over the past 4 or 5 seasons and to be honest that includes 1for as well. 80% of the players are no longer playing for the jersey or the club, it's for themselves.

Leaving that point, i'm hearing there's a fierce shift out the southside with Greenwood losing quite a few players? If it's true it's a right shame when you have an exodus from both the Mossie and AOH winning teams.im a glory hunter ??i had 2 clubs in 3 years and helped out at leeview how am i a glory hunter.and those players in question had left the prem league winners to play for a club that ended up 3rd from bottom and just stayed up.

The Red Dragon
29/07/2014, 10:11 PM
Any news on groups for the mossie linane lads?

Hugosanchez
30/07/2014, 8:40 AM
Sorry 1 for . I don't care what your reasons . Leaving a club this close to the start of the season is not on.

oldlegs
30/07/2014, 1:55 PM
To be honest a lot of clubs are finding it hard to keep squads . As has been posted I think loyalty and clubman days are gone but we need to understand loyalty works both ways is club to player and player to club . In my humble opinion I think guys just want to play and won't spend time on bench . Be a sub on a prem team or be a star on a first or second team . I'd be honest I'd like to try and play at the highest level I can and as a lot of guys on here know me I do spend a fair bit of time on the bench . But I'd prefer 30 40 minutes at prem then 90 at 1st div just my view . A lot of lads play 5 a side etc it's easier no commitment turn up play . No need to train 2 a week etc and so forth what ye all think . Their is a lot of clubs in similiar situations you have Greenwood Blarney street and if rumours are true Gratten are having poor turnouts that's 3 clubs in the prem . I'll be honest at Innish we finding it hard to keep a squad training but when you say lads we have a challange game you have 16 17 lads turn up where's as the previous week u might have had 8 or 9 training ! How do you address this slide . That must clubs are finding themselves in . Managers Chairman committees all doing thankless work and then you have spoilt brats playing for clubs egos etc . Should fAi look at capping number of clubs ? Is their too many clubs and not enough interested commited players I don't know anyone have answers .

chilloutref
30/07/2014, 2:25 PM
Kilreen are benefitting poo loyd and tundy rumoured to be training with them . Nags is off to ibiza soon hell bring back some luckyluckies with him no doubt to fill up the squad

And as I heard aswell joe Ryan is heading to Kilreen also

schoolboygodno9
30/07/2014, 2:58 PM
And as I heard aswell joe Ryan is heading to Kilreen also
Dont thinks so if he is he told a load of porkies to greendwood . He told them he wasnt playing at all

overthehill
30/07/2014, 3:48 PM
To be honest a lot of clubs are finding it hard to keep squads . As has been posted I think loyalty and clubman days are gone but we need to understand loyalty works both ways is club to player and player to club . In my humble opinion I think guys just want to play and won't spend time on bench . Be a sub on a prem team or be a star on a first or second team . I'd be honest I'd like to try and play at the highest level I can and as a lot of guys on here know me I do spend a fair bit of time on the bench . But I'd prefer 30 40 minutes at prem then 90 at 1st div just my view . A lot of lads play 5 a side etc it's easier no commitment turn up play . No need to train 2 a week etc and so forth what ye all think . Their is a lot of clubs in similiar situations you have Greenwood Blarney street and if rumours are true Gratten are having poor turnouts that's 3 clubs in the prem . I'll be honest at Innish we finding it hard to keep a squad training but when you say lads we have a challange game you have 16 17 lads turn up where's as the previous week u might have had 8 or 9 training ! How do you address this slide . That must clubs are finding themselves in . Managers Chairman committees all doing thankless work and then you have spoilt brats playing for clubs egos etc . Should fAi look at capping number of clubs ? Is their too many clubs and not enough interested commited players I don't know anyone have answers .

Great post Oldlegs, although i passed Grattan last night after our session and there seemed to be a good few training but i know what you mean. We are having great turnouts for training/games at the moment ( 18-20+) but that will bring its own inevitable problems once the season starts and lads cant get a game. Players have to buy in to the squad system and not expect to play every game. Hard, frustrating, yes but its got to be accepted. Loyalty? very little of that left these days.

killer"B"
30/07/2014, 3:58 PM
Great post Oldlegs, although i passed Grattan last night after our session and there seemed to be a good few training but i know what you mean. We are having great turnouts for training/games at the moment ( 18-20+) but that will bring its own inevitable problems once the season starts and lads cant get a game. Players have to buy in to the squad system and not expect to play every game. Hard, frustrating, yes but its got to be accepted. Loyalty? very little of that left these days.ya there was a good few but that was A and B teams more b players tho ......

overthehill
30/07/2014, 4:16 PM
Ah fair enough killer, didnt stop to note faces etc, just saw good scattering of bodies. As you say , wasnt a huge turnout so if that was 2 team squads.

Radiostar
30/07/2014, 4:22 PM
It's frustrating for everyone with the amount of changes every season, teams being pulled together for a season or two, win a trophy/ league and then disband. It's happening way too much, there's a lot to be said for the Gaa with how they deal with it. They should limit the numbers allowed sign for a team in a season like the MSL, might curb it somewhat.

1fortheTeam
30/07/2014, 4:54 PM
It's frustrating for everyone with the amount of changes every season, teams being pulled together for a season or two, win a trophy/ league and then disband. It's happening way too much, there's a lot to be said for the Gaa with how they deal with it. They should limit the numbers allowed sign for a team in a season like the MSL, might curb it somewhat.i rather win a trophy then not radio the players come and go but the clubs carry on thats just life let not take it to serious .the slating people get over junior football is unreal.

1fortheTeam
30/07/2014, 10:16 PM
Would you not count leeview so no?? The above post just shows your mentality, win at all costs and f**k everything else as soon as ye get what ye want! In all honesty you pulled an excellent squad together last season and how many of them are left now?

I said it before I'll say it again, its no longer for the club its for the individual.i did mention leview and i just helped out as i took the street job . i wasnt the manager.

moonman
30/07/2014, 10:31 PM
Would you not count leeview so no?? The above post just shows your mentality, win at all costs and f**k everything else as soon as ye get what ye want! In all honesty you pulled an excellent squad together last season and how many of them are left now?

I said it before I'll say it again, its no longer for the club its for the individual.

thats a bit harsh buzzkill, the man came into a sinking ship two seasons ago and kept them up , won an AOH last year and brought blarney street there first piece of silverware in god nos how long and left this year because of the commitment the job takes as been a manager of a top AUL club like blarney street !!!

Barrypirlo
31/07/2014, 10:51 AM
Would you not count leeview so no?? The above post just shows your mentality, win at all costs and f**k everything else as soon as ye get what ye want! In all honesty you pulled an excellent squad together last season and how many of them are left now?

I said it before I'll say it again, its no longer for the club its for the individual.
That's ridiculous win at all costs ? Of course the object of football is to win ? Most ridiculous post I've seen so far this season.
If your not in it to win it then why be in it at all buzz ?
1for is like all gaffers in the aul. They'd give there right arm for silverware.

Chiefscout
31/07/2014, 11:35 AM
Seriously lads.time to move on from the 1for bashing.its aul not 1for forum

Glenbuck
01/08/2014, 12:32 PM
Is Kilumney job filled

Sparks
01/08/2014, 2:11 PM
Is Kilumney job filled

The first team squad has seen a few departures from last season with lads going back too Balincolig I belive and most notably Gary Comerford going too Cobh

Barrypirlo
01/08/2014, 2:22 PM
The first team squad has seen a few departures from last season with lads going back too Balincolig I belive and most notably Gary Comerford going too Cobh
The post says is the job filled .Not how many players departed sparks.

The Red Dragon
02/08/2014, 3:34 PM
3 or 4 killumney lads played wit ballincollig seniors agenst Kilreen in a friendly Kilreen 3-1 good run out for dem short a few aswell

Barrypirlo
02/08/2014, 9:35 PM
3 or 4 killumney lads played wit ballincollig seniors agenst Kilreen in a friendly Kilreen 3-1 good run out for dem short a few aswell
Who were the killumney boys dragon ?.

The Red Dragon
03/08/2014, 2:17 AM
Kearney, Joyce was all I knew dere was other faces from dem playing too Defo anoder 1 at least, they must be in trouble

Horse24
03/08/2014, 8:07 AM
The posts about loyalty are a million percent true. There is none and this will continue while clubs fan the egos of these average players! Stories say seven at Kklumney training on Thursday and Coachford cancelled. Decent clubs but will remain cyclical if they keep taking players with no link to them. It's the ego of a clubman or manager that stirs it too - just remember, if a players sells a club out to join you, chances are he will sell you out in time too. Park are the biggest club in the AUL - they will have good and bad seasons but not boom and bust.

killer"B"
03/08/2014, 8:50 AM
Kearney, Joyce was all I knew dere was other faces from dem playing too Defo anoder 1 at least, they must be in trouble

I wouldn't say there in trouble cause there missing a few playing in a friendly big loss to Kilumney ya but sure there always vs be replaced

1fortheTeam
03/08/2014, 11:35 AM
The posts about loyalty are a million percent true. There is none and this will continue while clubs fan the egos of these average players! Stories say seven at Kklumney training on Thursday and Coachford cancelled. Decent clubs but will remain cyclical if they keep taking players with no link to them. It's the ego of a clubman or manager that stirs it too - just remember, if a players sells a club out to join you, chances are he will sell you out in time too. Park are the biggest club in the AUL - they will have good and bad seasons but not boom and bust.horse if you think cork football is all hearts and flowers your way out look at some of the slating going on here show what your dealing with .pike and clonmel dont mind if a guy from carlow plays for them do they .did you cram into a pub like all of us to watch a scotsman beat england for ireland.a polish guy might get a winner for cork in the all ireland some time i bet il meet you in pana with your flag when there coming home .thats not a dig at you kid .guys are telling me i dont look at footie this and that the same guys have a text alert to ther phones and 4 accounts

Horse24
03/08/2014, 1:55 PM
horse if you think cork football is all hearts and flowers your way out look at some of the slating going on here show what your dealing with .pike and clonmel dont mind if a guy from carlow plays for them do they .did you cram into a pub like all of us to watch a scotsman beat england for ireland.a polish guy might get a winner for cork in the all ireland some time i bet il meet you in pana with your flag when there coming home .thats not a dig at you kid .guys are telling me i dont look at footie this and that the same guys have a text alert to ther phones and 4 accounts[QUOTE=1fortheTeam;1770096]haha! I totally agree. Players come and go so it's the club that needs to be made stronger. We sold our soul to mediocrity when we found ourselves in a Premier A. We got what we deserved - zero loyalty. We decided long before last season ended that we would not chase anybody this summer and we haven't . One player has been asked a few times and even that was for the right reasons. Rockmount are struggling, chances are Avondale might in a few years. Why? Because they took short term views on players who showed no loyalty or have no connection. Just my opinion but wouldn't money spent underage be more beneficial to clubs longer term than paying today's superstar "expenses" to have one good season?? Kilumney players gone "home" - city players gone from Coachford back to city - Midleton players gone back to the Great Island. It takes a brave club to not look short term and I couldn't say my club would turn down short term glory in the future... ........the proof is there though that it damages the club long term!!

1fortheTeam
03/08/2014, 2:03 PM
[QUOTE=1fortheTeam;1770096]haha! I totally agree. Players come and go so it's the club that needs to be made stronger. We sold our soul to mediocrity when we found ourselves in a Premier A. We got what we deserved - zero loyalty. We decided long before last season ended that we would not chase anybody this summer and we haven't . One player has been asked a few times and even that was for the right reasons. Rockmount are struggling, chances are Avondale might in a few years. Why? Because they took short term views on players who showed no loyalty or have no connection. Just my opinion but wouldn't money spent underage be more beneficial to clubs longer term than paying today's superstar "expenses" to have one good season?? Kilumney players gone "home" - city players gone from Coachford back to city - Midleton players gone back to the Great Island. It takes a brave club to not look short term and I couldn't say my club would turn down short term glory in the future... ........the proof is there though that it damages the club long term!! freedom of choice and its only a game no ones dead kid lets all enjoy it for what its worth just a game .

legend23
03/08/2014, 3:18 PM
Are you on the look out for a new job 1for or are you gonna take a break from football for the time being??

Horse24
03/08/2014, 5:09 PM
[QUOTE=Horse24;1770112] freedom of choice and its only a game no ones dead kid lets all enjoy it for what its worth just a game .
You know as well as I do - clubs, teams and games don't just occur - people work to produce them all. Loyalty should be given to clubs and by clubs. Think long term not short term

Glenbuck
03/08/2014, 5:51 PM
[QUOTE=1fortheTeam;1770096]haha! I totally agree. Players come and go so it's the club that needs to be made stronger. We sold our soul to mediocrity when we found ourselves in a Premier A. We got what we deserved - zero loyalty. We decided long before last season ended that we would not chase anybody this summer and we haven't . One player has been asked a few times and even that was for the right reasons. Rockmount are struggling, chances are Avondale might in a few years. Why? Because they took short term views on players who showed no loyalty or have no connection. Just my opinion but wouldn't money spent underage be more beneficial to clubs longer term than paying today's superstar "expenses" to have one good season?? Kilumney players gone "home" - city players gone from Coachford back to city - Midleton players gone back to the Great Island. It takes a brave club to not look short term and I couldn't say my club would turn down short term glory in the future... ........the proof is there though that it damages the club long term!! Rockmount struggling. Are ya alright there fella.

Horse24
03/08/2014, 6:55 PM
[QUOTE=Horse24;1770112] Rockmount struggling. Are ya alright there fella.
Glenbuck - no offence meant! I can see the irony of a man in AUL div 1 calling the third team in MSL struggling!! I'm talking myself into circles trying to make my point so I'm giving up trying to make it - haha!

Sparks
03/08/2014, 7:33 PM
[QUOTE=Horse24;1770112] Rockmount struggling. Are ya alright there fella.
What division are Rockmount juniors competing in this season?

Barrypirlo
03/08/2014, 9:35 PM
[QUOTE=Glenbuck;1770134]
What division are Rockmount juniors competing in this season?
I'm amazed you don't know. A know all like you don't know.

backpass
04/08/2014, 10:13 AM
[QUOTE=1fortheTeam;1770096]haha! I totally agree. Players come and go so it's the club that needs to be made stronger. We sold our soul to mediocrity when we found ourselves in a Premier A. We got what we deserved - zero loyalty. We decided long before last season ended that we would not chase anybody this summer and we haven't . One player has been asked a few times and even that was for the right reasons. Rockmount are struggling, chances are Avondale might in a few years. Why? Because they took short term views on players who showed no loyalty or have no connection. Just my opinion but wouldn't money spent underage be more beneficial to clubs longer term than paying today's superstar "expenses" to have one good season?? Kilumney players gone "home" - city players gone from Coachford back to city - Midleton players gone back to the Great Island. It takes a brave club to not look short term and I couldn't say my club would turn down short term glory in the future... ........the proof is there though that it damages the club long term!!
You say rock mount are struggling. They will win the msl this year

Glenbuck
04/08/2014, 12:57 PM
[QUOTE=Glenbuck;1770134]
What division are Rockmount juniors competing in this season? Took the decision to give our youth team from last year a go at under 19 football. Some of them are a bit young too take on jnr football. A fall back to the reallignment of under age football by Fai 2 years ago. Back in jnr football next year. Please God. Nothing sinister in it.

Glenbuck
04/08/2014, 12:57 PM
[QUOTE=Horse24;1770112]
You say rock mount are struggling. They will win the msl this year Dont think so bud ha ha. Fair play to you though.

Barrypirlo
04/08/2014, 1:39 PM
[QUOTE=backpass;1770187] Dont think so bud ha ha. Fair play to you though.
Sure don't they have a chance like everyone else.

schoolboygodno9
04/08/2014, 5:07 PM
Eddie kenny back in charge at the street

backpass
04/08/2014, 8:28 PM
[QUOTE=backpass;1770187] Dont think so bud ha ha. Fair play to you though.

I think they will have a good year. Speaking to a player involved and he very happy with new signings.

Barrypirlo
04/08/2014, 8:29 PM
Eddie kenny back in charge at the street
As expected

Pass pass pass
04/08/2014, 9:12 PM
Eddie kenny back in charge at the street
Your sources are miles out on this one.