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moonman
27/03/2014, 11:12 AM
You could just acknowledge that we're right rather than go completely off tangent. It'd save on exclamation marks too.

wait and see what figures come out , already said earlier that the world cup players wouldn't travel and got shot down only to be proved right by a statement which was released by liverpool and when these figures come out after the 14th I,m sure ill be right again !!!!!!

Charlie Darwin
27/03/2014, 11:16 AM
Moonman living up to his name here.

Realistically, this will sell out for no other reason than it's in the Aviva and the possibility they'll play some stars. That alone will attract a lot of people who wouldn't bother going to see Manchster United XI in Tallaght or Liverpool XI at UCD. It's a shame it's not being advertised as Shamrock Rovers XI as I'd be surprised if it was even as strong as Rovers' Setanta team.

moonman
27/03/2014, 11:23 AM
Moonman living up to his name here.

Realistically, this will sell out for no other reason than it's in the Aviva and the possibility they'll play some stars. That alone will attract a lot of people who wouldn't bother going to see Manchster United XI in Tallaght or Liverpool XI at UCD. It's a shame it's not being advertised as Shamrock Rovers XI as I'd be surprised if it was even as strong as Rovers' Setanta team.

chin up charlie , no harm in bowing down to a cork man !! on a serious note id rather see a full venue on the 25th of may for the junior final and the money given to these clubs than to liverpool who dont exactly need it !!!
support your own as they say !!

Charlie Darwin
27/03/2014, 11:26 AM
Or how about the people who want to see Liverpool pay to see that and the people who want to see junior football pay to see that, and we use any money to progress the game?

Dodge
27/03/2014, 11:35 AM
The details aren't ever going to be officially released so calm down on the "I'll be proved right" BS

All we know is that Rovers will make a good few quid out of the game and that there'll be at least 30,000 people there (I think it'll sell out).

moonman
27/03/2014, 12:00 PM
charlie ,yes keeping the money in this country and improving our game is vital !! dodge to be honest with out the big guns travelling I cant see this selling out but you never know , if they come as league champions it could be a different story but either way a great coup for rovers if it draws a big crowd !!!

Ezeikial
27/03/2014, 12:08 PM
..... but either way a great coup for rovers if it draws a big crowd !!!

Brilliant!

Straightstory
27/03/2014, 12:10 PM
I've always reckoned that, after Celtic barstoolers, the Liverpool barstoolers are the dumbest.

Longfordian
27/03/2014, 12:21 PM
Who organised this anyway? If it wasn't Rovers themselves then why Rovers rather than for example Pats as the Champions? For the record I'm not at all bothered which LOI team is involved (unless they want Longford!). Just curious.

Boots9
27/03/2014, 12:23 PM
Who organised this anyway? If it wasn't Rovers themselves then why Rovers rather than for example Pats as the Champions? For the record I'm not at all bothered which LOI team is involved (unless they want Longford!). Just curious.

Warrior maybe???

Longfordian
27/03/2014, 12:29 PM
That could be it alright, they could be the sponsors or something, hadn't thought of that.

moonman
27/03/2014, 12:37 PM
Brilliant!

1 of Europe's top clubs coming to play 3 days after there season finishes not a great coup for rovers in your eyes r something !!!!!

vinnie
27/03/2014, 12:57 PM
Rovers have the South Stand, 7000 tickets, tickets cost €30 for Adults & €15 for kids


http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/news/35-news/3550-rovers-v-liverpool

Charlie Darwin
27/03/2014, 1:03 PM
Pretty optimistic to think Rovers will bring 7000 but you never know.

vinnie
27/03/2014, 1:07 PM
Pretty optimistic to think Rovers will bring 7000 but you never know.


Don't think they will Charlie, but members & ST holders get preference, and I've been asked by three people already if I'll sort them out tickets, so you'll find that Rovers end is actually mixed

Charlie Darwin
27/03/2014, 1:51 PM
Don't think they will Charlie, but members & ST holders get preference, and I've been asked by three people already if I'll sort them out tickets, so you'll find that Rovers end is actually mixed
I don't get it really, can they not just buy general admission tickets?

nigel-harps1954
27/03/2014, 2:12 PM
Tempted to take a trip down, borrow a half Man Utd- half Bohs shirt for the day. Just to confuse everyone.

Dodge
27/03/2014, 2:55 PM
I don't get it really, can they not just buy general admission tickets?

People won't trust ticketmaster ahead of their mates. I've had people ask me about getting tickets as "you're into the LOI aren't you?"

Mr A
27/03/2014, 3:11 PM
People won't trust ticketmaster ahead of their mates. I've had people ask me about getting tickets as "you're into the LOI aren't you?"

People won't trust trust cocaine frenzied schizophrenic knife wielding chimpanzees with post traumatic stress disorder ahead of ticket master, never mind their mates.

desaintsno.12
27/03/2014, 3:52 PM
Who organised this anyway? If it wasn't Rovers themselves then why Rovers rather than for example Pats as the Champions? For the record I'm not at all bothered which LOI team is involved (unless they want Longford!). Just curious.

I think this needs to be answered by FAI

dundalkfc10
27/03/2014, 4:16 PM
Don't think they will Charlie, but members & ST holders get preference, and I've been asked by three people already if I'll sort them out tickets, so you'll find that Rovers end is actually mixed

To be honest mate, if I was you id tell them to **** off

pineapple stu
27/03/2014, 5:29 PM
Don't think they will Charlie, but members & ST holders get preference, and I've been asked by three people already if I'll sort them out tickets, so you'll find that Rovers end is actually mixed
What's the Rovers fans' view on this (in general) btw? Cynical or looking forward to it?

Martinho II
27/03/2014, 7:34 PM
saw in paper today that Warrior were the people that organised it..

wonder88
27/03/2014, 8:15 PM
This should cover the cost of the Rovers B Team for this year at least. Louis Kilcoyne when he was in charge at Milltown was great at organising prestige friendlies, so in a way this is going back to the olden days, especially if Liverpool manage to win the English league Championship (highly unlikely however). I remember being at the first soccer game at Lansdowne Road Nua, and when I gave a small shout of encouragement to one of the LoI players playing against Man U, a number of people around me gave me a strange look. It was a very enjoyable night and if I was living in Dublin I would certainly go, if the evening is fine. A regret I have is that I did not go to the Europa League final at Lansdowne; was in Dublin that day and I think there was tickets available? The Queen of England was there the same time, could this be one of the reasons the Europa L final in Dublin didn't sell out?

TonyD
27/03/2014, 8:25 PM
Although the likes of Pats might feel aggrieved that they were overlooked for the game as champions.

As a Pats supporter, i don't feel one bit aggrieved that we've been "overlooked". Sure, I probably would go if Pats were involved, but I certainly don't feel like I'm missing out. Much more interested in our league games than a "glamour" friendly.

Charlie Darwin
27/03/2014, 8:32 PM
I don't see why they'd feel any more aggrieved than all 12 Premier Division teams were when Barcelona and Manchester City agreed to play Limerick. Limerick had the initiative to go out and look for opportunities and had the advantage of a nice stadium in their city to play the game in. Rovers are no different. It's a meaningless fixture that will mean far more to the Irish Liverpool fans who never get to see their team than it will to Rovers fan, just like the City game meant far more to their Irish fans than it did Lims, who I assume were just grateful for the free money. To put it in English football terms, "this will be their cup final".

PartySaint
28/03/2014, 12:14 AM
This should cover the cost of the Rovers B Team for this year at least. Louis Kilcoyne when he was in charge at Milltown was great at organising prestige friendlies, so in a way this is going back to the olden days, especially if Liverpool manage to win the English league Championship (highly unlikely however). I remember being at the first soccer game at Lansdowne Road Nua, and when I gave a small shout of encouragement to one of the LoI players playing against Man U, a number of people around me gave me a strange look. It was a very enjoyable night and if I was living in Dublin I would certainly go, if the evening is fine. A regret I have is that I did not go to the Europa League final at Lansdowne; was in Dublin that day and I think there was tickets available? The Queen of England was there the same time, could this be one of the reasons the Europa L final in Dublin didn't sell out?

The Queen, Obama and the Europa League final were all in town on the same week.

Charlie Darwin
28/03/2014, 12:19 AM
The Queen, Obama and the Europa League final were all in town on the same week.To be fair, only one of those had what Irish people really want to see - the English.

Dodge
28/03/2014, 9:14 AM
And the Europa League final did sell out.

adamd164
28/03/2014, 10:21 AM
As a Pats supporter, i don't feel one bit aggrieved that we've been "overlooked". Sure, I probably would go if Pats were involved, but I certainly don't feel like I'm missing out. Much more interested in our league games than a "glamour" friendly.

You're missing my point though, I meant purely from a financial point of view. Rovers will make money off the game, and the FAI asked them to be involved.

I doubt too many LOI fans actually care about the game.

desaintsno.12
28/03/2014, 10:23 AM
As a Pats fan i'm definitely ****ed off we werent asked (as league champions)

wonder88
28/03/2014, 11:11 AM
I am glad the Europa League sold out. It would be very nice to have it back again, did anyone on this forum go to it? I am a little surprised, with greater tv and internet access, that more Irish soccer fans do not follow some of the other European Leagues apart from England and a bit of Scottish Football. Two teams from Portugal were in the final then, and AVB was manager of one of them, their fans were very colourful around the city center as well. Strange time to be in Dublin with traffic blocked off etc. Also I noticed out by the airport there was loads of photographers on the road beside it the day before. If this was to do with the soccer final it must have given Ireland greater exposure/media coverage than the visit of Queen of England and Obama (forgot about him), but maybe I am wrong on this.

Boots9
28/03/2014, 11:16 AM
As a Pats fan i'm definitely ****ed off we werent asked (as league champions)


Warrior have organised this match.

They weren't gonna just invited any team from Ireland to play this, even the league champions. They wanted a team who are also sponsored by Warrior so that every player the public see's in Lansdowne Road that day will be showing off the Warrior badge.

Dodge
28/03/2014, 11:19 AM
Warrior did not organise this game.

Boots9
28/03/2014, 11:32 AM
Warrior did not organise this game.

Is that all?

Do you just not want to believe it or do you want to share some information on what was the reasoning behind choosing the 2 teams involved?

passinginterest
28/03/2014, 11:52 AM
I am glad the Europa League sold out. It would be very nice to have it back again, did anyone on this forum go to it? I am a little surprised, with greater tv and internet access, that more Irish soccer fans do not follow some of the other European Leagues apart from England and a bit of Scottish Football. Two teams from Portugal were in the final then, and AVB was manager of one of them, their fans were very colourful around the city center as well. Strange time to be in Dublin with traffic blocked off etc. Also I noticed out by the airport there was loads of photographers on the road beside it the day before. If this was to do with the soccer final it must have given Ireland greater exposure/media coverage than the visit of Queen of England and Obama (forgot about him), but maybe I am wrong on this.

I was at the Europa league final, picked up a couple of free tickets and thoroughly enjoyed it. There seemed to be an awful lot of free tickets floating around and it would have been easy to get a ticket on the day even if it was officially sold out.

Despite having an interest in following Rovers and Liverpool this friendly game is not really appealing to me at all. A ten year old me would have driven my parents mad wanting to go and see Liverpool. These days all I can see is Rovers B playing Liverpool's disinterested reserve side and I've got better things to do with €30.

Dodge
28/03/2014, 11:56 AM
Is that all?

Do you just not want to believe it or do you want to share some information on what was the reasoning behind choosing the 2 teams involved?

There's nothing to believe. Good luck to Rovers and fair play to them for playing their part in organising it.

Nah Nah Nah Nah
28/03/2014, 12:18 PM
If Warrior arranged it wouldn't you think that they would have been shouting from the rooftops about it? They haven't been mentioned in any of the press releases that I've seen

Charlie Darwin
28/03/2014, 1:14 PM
As a Pats fan i'm definitely ****ed off we werent asked (as league champions)
You're ****ed off that your status as league champions wasn't recognised by being invited to play in a meaningless mid-season friendly between two B teams? It's a commercial fixture designed to make money and the organisers invited the two teams they felt would best achieve that. It sounds like Rovers were also pro-active in making sure they were one of the clubs.

Dodge
28/03/2014, 1:45 PM
What I think happened is that Rovers approached the FAI to see about availability of Lansdowne if they could arrange a high profile frinedly. FAI say "funny you should ask, we had great success with Liverpool last year and were thinking of bring them back. Do you want to come in and we'll give you €x and we'll take the rest?"

Rovers get their few bob hassle free (and great PR) and FAI get another few quid to pay off the Lansdowne debt. Liverpool get their shed laod of cash so all 3 delighted with themselves

Charlie Darwin
28/03/2014, 1:49 PM
You discounted Warrior being involved earlier but even if they didn't organise it (I've never heard of a kit sponsor putting on a game in Ireland) they did help to grease the wheels and make sure both their kits were on display.

PartySaint
30/03/2014, 9:31 AM
I am glad the Europa League sold out. It would be very nice to have it back again, did anyone on this forum go to it? I am a little surprised, with greater tv and internet access, that more Irish soccer fans do not follow some of the other European Leagues apart from England and a bit of Scottish Football. Two teams from Portugal were in the final then, and AVB was manager of one of them, their fans were very colourful around the city center as well. Strange time to be in Dublin with traffic blocked off etc. Also I noticed out by the airport there was loads of photographers on the road beside it the day before. If this was to do with the soccer final it must have given Ireland greater exposure/media coverage than the visit of Queen of England and Obama (forgot about him), but maybe I am wrong on this.

I went to it, got tickets the day of the game. Although the match itself wasn't great it was a great occasion to have in Dublin, enjoyable day.

Neish
31/03/2014, 7:49 AM
If Warrior arranged it wouldn't you think that they would have been shouting from the rooftops about it? They haven't been mentioned in any of the press releases that I've seen

Check out Warrior Ireland's facebook page it all over it.

Dodge
31/03/2014, 9:49 AM
Check out Warrior Ireland's facebook page it all over it.

Warrior Ireland is John Courtney. He's a Rovers man

As I said, Warrior had nothing to do with organising it but I'd fully expect them to promote it. Why wouldn't they?

ThePrisoner
01/04/2014, 2:17 PM
Just reading in today's Indo that Shams are to collect over €100k for this gig. http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/hoops-to-hit-jackpot-from-liverpool-feelgood-factor-30143084.html

Can anyone explain, from my perspective at least, why Shams are getting preferential treatment from the FAI? Do the FAI not have a duty to the other Clubs to act in a fair and transparent manner? Level playing pitch, etc. - pun intended.

I for one would certainly give serious consideration to supporting the other Clubs if they refused to play both Shams' teams. A drastic and unprecedented measure but given that the FAI are in effect financing Shams why should the other Clubs just accept it?

Dalymountrower
02/04/2014, 3:10 PM
Get over it. Rovers have always had preferential treatment from the FAI and from the establishment ( Media, revenue, politicians etc). Similar to certain favoured clubs in other countries, i.e.Linfield, Munich, R. Madrid, PSG. The difference being that the latter clubs win their major domestic trophies on a regular basis.

wonder88
02/04/2014, 4:00 PM
I am not sure it was always Shamrock R who got special treatment; I remember Roddy Collins saying in his newspaper column a few years ago that Bohs were getting certain advantages when the money from Zurich Bank and the property developers was wining LoI titles for them. Everyone likes a winner so decisions from refs, blind eye turned to certain rule infringements often happen. The big Dublin clubs (whoever they may be at the time) also benefit, which again in natural. Other clubs just have to try harder and when it is blatant highlight it and fight it. There is a cost of fielding a B team this year for Rovers so this friendly income should go and cover that. We couldn't have a 7 team First Division.
But sometimes picking winners is not that easy and Fran Gavin and the FAI may get it wrong, which is why it would be better to have the clubs themselves in charge of running the league, rather than the FAI. Then there would be less chance of blatant unfairness happening.

ThePrisoner
02/04/2014, 4:39 PM
Whatever deal Bohs did with Zurich Bank is between themselves and Zurich. Yes, they got money and won titles, but they are now paying the price with Dalymount Park mortgaged to the hilt and heavily in debt.

The FAI are not a commercial bank. They are the governing body. They should be, and be seen to be, independent.

In relation to the B team, that is a reflection on the FAI in that they could not get a new member.

Charlie Darwin
02/04/2014, 8:10 PM
Nobody knows the exact circumstances of how the friendly came about and what how extensive a role the FAI had in its organisation so it's a bit much to be alleging favouritism.

placid casual
02/04/2014, 8:55 PM
the various posts on this thread only reinforce the fact I love love love being a Rovers fan!!!:-))