LoI Series 17 & 14- Premier & 1St Div Fixtures. [Archive]

bullit

13/06/2013, 9:45 PM

Last set of fixtures before the Summer break. :(

All ko's 7.45 unless stated.

Friday

Premier

BohemianFC V Shelbourne

Bray Wanderers V Derry City

Cork City V Drogheda United

DundalkFC V St.Pats Ath.

Shamrock Rovers V LimerickFC 8pm

First

Athlone Town V Longford Town

Salthill Devon V Finn Harps

Wexford Youths V Mervue United 8pm

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Saturday

Premier

Sligo Rovers V UCD

First

Cobh Ramblers V Waterford Utd.

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bullit

14/06/2013, 4:11 PM

For anyone wanting to listen to some LOI later the Dundalk V Pats match is live on Dundalk100FM with coverage starting at 7.40.
http://www.dundalkfm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=56

passinginterest

14/06/2013, 7:00 PM

Gale force wind sweeping rain down off the mountains in Tallaght not going to be conducive to great football. It's also bloody freezing.

colonelwest

14/06/2013, 7:50 PM

Off twitter, from the Athlone fans:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMvn5DRCcAAqppT.jpg:large

:D

Brennan off for Pats midway through the second half, not much doing in tonights matches it seems!

adamd164

14/06/2013, 9:04 PM

Quality - that banner entertained me more than the 90 mins of tripe I just endured at Turner's Cross!

Charlie Darwin

14/06/2013, 9:53 PM

Gale force wind sweeping rain down off the mountains in Tallaght not going to be conducive to great football. It's also bloody freezing.
To be fair, when it started coming down really hard both teams kept playing football.

Competent performance from Rovers. Never looked likely to concede apart from a 2-minute spell in the first half, but the usual yips started set in towards the end. Limerick seemed to determined to have a man sent off and must be disappointed to have had to wait until injury time. Ricer's missus will not be a happy bunny I fear.

Best part was coming out of the match to learn Player of the Month Killian Brennan had got his marching orders, then opening the news app on my phone to see an article entitled 'Brennan eyes pots for Pats' :D

White Horse

14/06/2013, 10:02 PM

Best part was coming out of the match to learn Player of the Month Killian Brennan had got his marching orders, then opening the news app on my phone to see an article entitled 'Brennan eyes pots for Pats' :D

There was no way he was going to stay on the pitch. Rarely have I seen a player so wound up.

Ref missed an elbow of his early in the game and the "tackle" on Meenan merited two red cards. It was that bad.

Pats should be furious with him. They played very well and are easily the best team we have played this season (even if we have beaten them twice).

Charlie Darwin

14/06/2013, 10:05 PM

Pat's will still miss him for, presumably, three games.

Battery Rover

14/06/2013, 10:06 PM

http://athlonetownfc.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/James.jpg

A better view of the banner at the Athlone Town game

placid casual

14/06/2013, 10:21 PM

good man dean kelly.
always remember folks, bohs are there to be laughed at.;)

and scobie brennan got sent off as well.

hoops hoops.:ball:

Flexy

14/06/2013, 11:17 PM

Another 2 goals from rory patterson guy is on fire at the moment. Downside he must nearly have as many bookings as goals

bullit

14/06/2013, 11:26 PM

Another 2 goals from rory patterson guy is on fire at the moment. Downside he must nearly have as many bookings as goals
Most for dissent i'd wager.If i was a LOI ref i'd have decked him and his big mouth a long time ago.

White Horse

14/06/2013, 11:30 PM

Another 2 goals from rory patterson guy is on fire at the moment. Downside he must nearly have as many bookings as goals

At least Mark Griffin might get a game when Patterson is suspended.

adamd164

14/06/2013, 11:31 PM

Was there crowd trouble at Dundalk v Pats? Saw a few ramblings from a Pats mate online.

The one nice feeling I take from tonight is we're sh1t (as in we're really, really sh1t) and yet we're still the highest placed team in Munster.:)

White Horse

14/06/2013, 11:41 PM

Was there crowd trouble at Dundalk v Pats? Saw a few ramblings from a Pats mate online.

Not really.

Somehow, Pats fans who paid into the uncovered terrace were allowed into the main stand. It was a wet night and Pats fans are usually well behaved at Oriel Park. So someone took pity on them and let them take shelter.

They were "boisterous" but it was just loud banter, nothing nasty.

There are reports of a fan falling and hitting his head. Hope he recovers fully. I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding that incident.

There will always be people who will blame stewards but most of us know how difficult football fans can be to deal with. They few yobs who seem to be present in every group make it very difficult to intervene.

monkey9

15/06/2013, 2:14 AM

Not really.

Somehow, Pats fans who paid into the uncovered terrace were allowed into the main stand. It was a wet night and Pats fans are usually well behaved at Oriel Park. So someone took pity on them and let them take shelter.

They were "boisterous" but it was just loud banter, nothing nasty.

There are reports of a fan falling and hitting his head. Hope he recovers fully. I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding that incident.

There will always be people who will blame stewards but most of us know how difficult football fans can be to deal with. They few yobs who seem to be present in every group make it very difficult to intervene.

You'd be better off sorting out the stewarding at your club rather than letting them drag your name down.

Hibs4Ever

15/06/2013, 5:00 AM

There are reports of a fan falling and hitting his head. Hope he recovers fully. I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding that incident.

If you were you'd be embarrassed for your club

bullit

15/06/2013, 6:33 AM

Yee Pat's fans may fill us in and quit the fcuking dancing here.(be careful not to tell lies cos we know the truth of what happened) All rights restricted (c)(p) 2012

Nesta99

15/06/2013, 7:23 AM

Interested in a Pats fan's perspective here, saw all of 'incident' and the only fault was allowing away fans into the stand without a stand ticket. Will know better next time hail or rain not to take pity on decent visiting fans and shelter them from the inclement weather! Pity that a person who does their job properly gets abuse for it - who'd be a steward...??

bullit

15/06/2013, 8:10 AM

You'd be better off sorting out the stewarding at your club rather than letting them drag your name down.
What horrible stuff did you see monks?
Bet you weren't even there?

Hibs.You only head in here when you reckon there might be a bit off an oul row.

Some off yee need to cop on and esp the lad that started this whole non-story on Twitter.His name begins with a D and ends with an e and he of course he seen all after he bullied his way in to the Dundalk stand.In Fact he published photos of him doing it.He is a victim of his own making.A drunk ****.

Thats it.

Dalymountrower

15/06/2013, 8:31 AM

good man dean kelly.
always remember folks, bohs are there to be laughed at.;)

and scobie brennan got sent off as well.

hoops hoops.:ball:

Flacid, I`ll allow that every team who are routinely beating the poorest Bohs side since the 1960`s can have a good laugh.

Sean South

15/06/2013, 8:43 AM

What horrible stuff did you see monks?
Bet you weren't even there?

Hibs.You only head in here when you reckon there might be a bit off an oul row.

Some off yee need to cop on and esp the lad that started this whole non-story on Twitter.His name begins with a D and ends with an e and he of course he seen all after he bullied his way in to the Dundalk stand.In Fact he published photos of him doing it.He is a victim of his own making.A drunk ****.

Thats it.
This guy?
http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/526/vty6.jpg

bullit

15/06/2013, 8:52 AM

My guy is called Didge. :)

dong

15/06/2013, 8:53 AM

Ha ha.
What exactly happened that a fan ended up in hospital "because of the security"?
I find this intriguing.

If we can't muster up a performance tonight and get the win against UCD at home then I will be seriously concerned.
Getting very congested at the top.

Ezeikial

15/06/2013, 9:03 AM

This guy?
http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/526/vty6.jpg

That's seriously articulate stuff there. Way too high brow for me.

Getting beat again by Dundalk probably did not help the spirit of the Pats fans - especially the group that launched a full scale attack on a totally innocent fence after the match (the fence did not attack back and the Pats heroes gave up after a few futile minutes)

danthesaint

15/06/2013, 9:22 AM

AFAIK there has been a few statements to the guards about the incidents, not 100% sure what happened myself, as i was waiting to get out.

Chris Shields behaviour when warming up at the time Brennan got sent off was disgraceful, pure incitement towards the Pats fans.

About the game, poor conditions, poor officals, draw would have been fair I thought, didnt think it was gonna be easy against Dundalk, Kenny has turned them into a hard to beat team.

bullit

15/06/2013, 9:34 AM

White Horse

15/06/2013, 9:41 AM

I'm surprised Pats fans are not concerned about the stupidity of Brennan.

It was obvious from the beginning of the game that he was going to get himself sent off. I was surprised he lasted 30 minutes.

Teams, even good one's like Pats, cannot give Kenny's Dundalk a one man advantage for an hour.

They are as fit as hell and can move the ball quickly. Pats played really well for 70 minutes, but were dead on their feet for the last 20 minutes.

Ezeikial

15/06/2013, 9:50 AM

Chris Shields behaviour when warming up at the time Brennan got sent off was disgraceful, pure incitement towards the Pats fans.

.

What are your thoughts on Killian Brennan's behaviour?

Is bad behaviour by some fans always excused by any of (a) preceived incitement by players (b) referreeing decisions (c) Stewarding (d) losing a match they expected to win?

About the game, poor conditions, poor officals, draw would have been fair I thought, didnt think it was gonna be easy against Dundalk, Kenny has turned them into a hard to beat team.

St Pats are an excellent footballing side and with a bit of extra luck could have got the draw - but Dundalk were full value for the win, and but for a poor penalty it should have been a more comfortable margin.

You should look at Killian Brennans two footed assault rather then the referee for the key turning point.

danthesaint

15/06/2013, 10:07 AM

What are your thoughts on Killian Brennan's behaviour?

Is bad behaviour by some fans always excused by any of (a) preceived incitement by players (b) referreeing decisions (c) Stewarding (d) losing a match they expected to win?

I didnt say it was, but if it was a pats player doing it in front of your fans then you wouldnt say that.

What was the bad behaviour by the fans??

I didnt expect us to win anyway thought it was going to be a draw.

St Pats are an excellent footballing side and with a bit of extra luck could have got the draw - but Dundalk were full value for the win, and but for a poor penalty it should have been a more comfortable margin.

You should look at Killian Brennans two footed assault rather then the referee for the key turning point.

I didnt get a good view of it, I heard it was one foot with studs showing. I think there was a similar one on I Bolger a few mins earlier which didnt even get a card.

White Horse

15/06/2013, 10:12 AM

I didnt get a good view of it, I heard it was one foot with studs showing. I think there was a similar one on I Bolger a few mins earlier which didnt even get a card.

Brennan went over the ball with intention of raking his studs on Meenan's leg. It was the most obvious red card I have seen in years.

And just a few moments after he got away with an elbow!!

He was a liability to Pats last night.

Ezeikial

15/06/2013, 10:39 AM

I didnt say it was, but if it was a pats player doing it in front of your fans then you wouldnt say that.

Eh - yes I would:

Any intentional goading / inciting of fans is not acceptable, irrespective of what team colours they wear.
If it occurs it does not mean that all types of fan reaction is justified (for example Ross Gaynor and Drogheda "fans" in Sligo V Drogs at Showgrounds)

What was the bad behaviour by the fans??

If you were in the body of St Pats fans being retained in the ground after the match, you could hardly have failed to see the aggressive and violent behaviour of some Pats fans trying to tear down security screens.

In general St Pats fans have been well behaved, good fun and welcome visitors to Oriel (including being one of the few groups allowed in numbers into the Lilywhite Lounge).

Decent Pats fans should not follow Shamrock Rovers lead by turning a blind eye to the bad behaviour of a minority

I didnt expect us to win anyway thought it was going to be a draw.

You are the first!
Every Pats fan I spoke to was expecting a win.

I didnt get a good view of it, I heard it was one foot with studs showing. I think there was a similar one on I Bolger a few mins earlier which didnt even get a card.

You seem to have seen very little last night!

Check out MNS for the clear cut red card - I expect that Brennan will get the max additional suspension as a result

danthesaint

15/06/2013, 11:01 AM

Eh - yes I would:

Any intentional goading / inciting of fans is not acceptable, irrespective of what team colours they wear.
If it occurs it does not mean that all types of fan reaction is justified (for example Ross Gaynor and Drogheda "fans" in Sligo V Drogs at Showgrounds)

Sorry, I think you misunderstood my point there, the fans behaviour and players behaviour are completely separate. I was just trying to say that if it was a pats player you wouldnt find it acceptable, as you already said above.

If you were in the body of St Pats fans being retained in the ground after the match, you could hardly have failed to see the aggressive and violent behaviour of some Pats fans trying to tear down security screens.

In general St Pats fans have been well behaved, good fun and welcome visitors to Oriel (including being one of the few groups allowed in numbers into the Lilywhite Lounge).

Decent Pats fans should not follow Shamrock Rovers lead by turning a blind eye to the bad behaviour of a minority

Security screens, are these at the big gates, no? Thats where I was, and I didnt see any agressive or violent behaviour from fans there. Most of us were to concerned to see if our mate was ok or just wanted to get onto the bus and go home.

You seem to have seen very little last night!

Check out MNS for the clear cut red card - I expect that Brennan will get the max additional suspension as a result

I was standing in the non covered section, with the winds, p*ssing rain, freezing cold, people standing in my way, forgive me for not seeing everything.

Will check it out though.

White Horse

15/06/2013, 11:11 AM

I was standing in the non covered section, with the winds, p*ssing rain, freezing cold, people standing in my way, forgive me for not seeing everything.

I hate that in the LOI.

The least we should expect to be able to see the game. I was at United Park on Monday night and one third of the pitch was totally obscured from view.

The circumstances leading to a fan slipping and falling on steps will need to be investigated and lessons learned.

Unfortunately, money does not exist to build a covered stand for the small number of away fans who come to Oriel Park. I would advise all away fans to read the weather forecast before coming, and if it is poor, pay an extra fiver to buy a stand ticket. €15 to sit in a stand with two bars and good toilets is pretty good value.

I paid that on Monday to stand in United Park with no food or bar facilities worth talking about, disgusting toilets, and a view of 2/3rds of the pitch.

bullit

15/06/2013, 11:14 AM

Sorry, I think you misunderstood my point there, the fans behaviour and players behaviour are completely separate. I was just trying to say that if it was a pats player you wouldnt find it acceptable, as you already said above.

Security screens, are these at the big gates, no? Thats where I was, and I didnt see any agressive or violent behaviour from fans there. Most of us were to concerned to see if our mate was ok or just wanted to get onto the bus and go home.

I was standing in the non covered section, with the winds, p*ssing rain, freezing cold, people standing in my way, forgive me for not seeing everything.

You know Oriel yeah?

You knew you weren't coming to a kids bun party so if you knew about the biblical "the winds, p*ssing rain, freezing cold, people standing in my way" why didn't you wise up and pay what you normally pay into richmond and sit in the stand?

And stop with victim rubbish "ahh me mate"

If you didn't see any "agressive or violent behaviour" by pats fans at the end of the match then you weren't there sir.

danthesaint

15/06/2013, 11:23 AM

You know Oriel yeah?

You knew you weren't coming to a kids bun party so if you knew about the biblical "the winds, p*ssing rain, freezing cold, people standing in my way" why didn't you wise up and pay what you normally pay into richmond and sit in the stand?

And stop with victim rubbish "ahh me mate"

If you didn't see any "agressive or violent behaviour" by pats fans at the end of the match then you weren't there sir.

Where was it? Was it at the gate, thats where I was. If it wasnt then I didnt see it.

And yeah he is my mate, so I was concerned about how he was, he has a broken bone is his back and broke both sides of his pelvis, just in case you are concerned.

White Horse

15/06/2013, 11:26 AM

And yeah he is my mate, so I was concerned about how he was, he has a broken bone is his back and broke both sides of his pelvis, just in case you are concerned.

I'm sure every Dundalk fan wishes him a speedy recovery.

The same thing nearly happened to me at the Aviva coming down steep steps. Someone coming in the other direction was able to stop my fall before I really injured myself.

Ezeikial

15/06/2013, 12:10 PM

I'm shocked to hear of the extent and seriousness of his injuries. I hope he has a speedy recovery.

oriel

15/06/2013, 12:18 PM

Decent game, full of tension from the start, the rain gave the pitch a faster than normal pace, I'm no fan of it, but it contributed to a really good game last night. You would never have thought Pats were down to 10 men for 15 mins after the break, they are a very good side, and no doubt why they are top, but we definitely deserved to win in the end, no question about that. Very foolish by Brennan, put his team under huge pressure, then he got a hero welcome when he emerged into the stand for the second half.

It's unfortunate away fans have to stand in the rain, no excuses for that and I really wish we could offer some sort of cover. The option is there as said above to pay €15 and go to they main stand, before kick off this could be managed a bit better, and adequate space would have been found if a higher number of away fans made that decision then, as that area is rarely used by DLK fans. I think it's unfair having a go at stewards who all of sudden are forced to accommodate around 150-200 fans during the match and who were originally managed and paid into another area.

Best wishes to the Pats fan for a speedy recovery.

poster

15/06/2013, 3:14 PM

Did Pat's create many chances after Brennan was sent off?

jinxy lilywhite

15/06/2013, 3:20 PM

Did Pat's create many chances after Brennan was sent off?

not really but neither did we. Last 15 of the first we gave the ball away to many times and so did pats and neither side created much. first 15 of the second half they had us on the ropes and scored. their goal was lucky I thought but well deserved. Even after they scored they dominated us for a while. Keith Ward came on before they scored and we started to take control after that. Our goal was lucky too, Pats defending should of been a lot better and Byrne gave Clarke no chance. from a dfc pov I am bias so I'll say we fully deserved it.

MariborKev

15/06/2013, 3:23 PM

Can really call last night a contest with the conditions that were in it, but if I was a Bray fan I'd have been very heartened with the seond half showing, defo could have taken a point.

As for us, we've got Patterson, which always gives you have a chance!

desaintsno.12

15/06/2013, 3:37 PM

dundalkfc10

15/06/2013, 3:55 PM

Disgraceful carry on by the stewards in Dundalk last night. worst carry on i have ever witnessed at a match in over twenty years. Really hope karma fooks Dundalk right in the azz for many years to come.
and playing "we are the champions" at the end....beyond pathetic !!

Nobody on here has yet to give a full explanation of how this was Dundalks Stewards fault, il await an official report from either club or the guards before blaming anyway

desaintsno.12

15/06/2013, 4:02 PM

Nobody on here has yet to give a full explanation of how this was Dundalks Stewards fault, il await an official report from either club or the guards before blaming anyway

Hard to summarise well over 90 mins of brutal behaviour. Can only hope ya's get nailed to the wall for it

White Horse

15/06/2013, 4:06 PM

Nobody on here has yet to give a full explanation of how this was Dundalks Stewards fault, il await an official report from either club or the guards before blaming anyway

Quite right.

All we know is that a Pats fans slipped on the steps and was badly injured. No one has provided any evidence as to how this is the fault of a steward.

Furthermore, the other gripe appears to be that the stewards did not eject children from their seats to make way for fans who didn't buy a stand ticket.

The whinging from a few Pats fans is really pathetic and using an unfortunate accident to have a go at volunteer stewards is cowardly and disgusting.

desaintsno.12

15/06/2013, 4:10 PM

Quite right.

All we know is that a Pats fans slipped on the steps and was badly injured. No one has provided any evidence as to how this is the fault of a steward.

Furthermore, the other gripe appears to be that the stewards did not eject children from their seats to make way for fans who didn't buy a stand ticket.

The whinging from a few Pats fans is really pathetic and using an unfortunate accident to have a go at volunteer stewards is cowardly and disgusting.

You don't know what you're talking about

Also you are in no place to talk about pathetic ....."we are the champions"