Richard Keogh D Forest Green Rovers b.1986

[DeLorean]

Had a scan through the Irish player thread and didn't notice anything on this guy. He joined Derby at the start of the season and is their captain. Seems to be playing solid stuff on a regular basis. Was Coventry POTY the last two seasons. Has represented us at U21 level.

Richard Keogh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard Keogh)

[paul_oshea]

This got lost in the other thread so im posting it here.

Seems like a genuinely nice lad. A bit like the sledge:

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/international/2013/0604/454395-mcclean-promised-me-a-goal-reveals-keogh/

[tetsujin1979]

I blogged about him the morning of the Georgia game - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog - which worked out well for all concerned

I plan on blogging about Conor Sammon on the morning of the Faroes game, just to see if I can repeat the process...dun, dun DUNNNN!!

[DeLorean]

An amazing influx of Derby County players all at once really, all three directly involved in three of our goals on Sunday. Clough feels it could help Derby (http://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/call-ups-can-boost-recruitment-853565.aspx) also.

[paul_oshea]

All down to trap obviously!

He goes to one game and recruits 3 players!

[DeLorean]

Hendrick and Keogh are welcome additions regardless. Sammon would be grand too if we weren't running the risk of him actually starting important games, at the expense of better players.

[DeLorean]

Too clumsy, rash in the tackle and lacks dominance. Has always played for teams that have leaked loads of goals. Derby are where they are in spite of and not because of him

Picked up a knee injury at the weekend and will be out of four weeks. In contrast to the quote above, McClaren feels he has been a key part of their recent improvement. Player of the year twice at Coventry and last season with Derby, their supporters obviously take a different view also.

dcfc.co.uk
(http://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/keogh-suffers-medial-ligament-injury-1250932.aspx)
Hopefully this might open a spot on the bench for Mark O'Brien, if he is nearly ready.

[DeLorean]

Defender edging closer to a return after a "good week" training (http://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/keogh-could-return-1701-1300861.aspx)



He’s an important player and there’s a decision to make whether or not he returns to the squad.


The team has done brilliantly without him in recent weeks

Really Steve, brilliantly?

Barnsley (a) W2-1
Huddersfield (a) D1-1
Wigan (h) L0-1
Chelsea (h) L0-2
Leicester (a) L1-4

I saw the Leicester game and it should have been eight or nine... no exaggeration. Nugent and Vardy absolutely destroyed Buxton and the young lad, Keane, on loan from Man Utd. They could have done with Keogh for a bit of strength and experience.

[CraftyToePoke]

Defender edging closer to a return after a "good week" training (http://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/keogh-could-return-1701-1300861.aspx)



Really Steve, brilliantly?

Barnsley (a) W2-1
Huddersfield (a) D1-1
Wigan (h) L0-1
Chelsea (h) L0-2
Leicester (a) L1-4

I saw the Leicester game and it should have been eight or nine... no exaggeration. Nugent and Vardy absolutely destroyed Buxton and the young lad, Keane, on loan from Man Utd. They could have done with Keogh for a bit of strength and experience.

Saw it too and yeah, it really could have been any score.

[DeLorean]

Straight back into the side and was supposed to have been "immense" in their vital 1-0 win over Brighton. It puts Derby eight clear of Brighton in 7th and was their first clean sheet since Keogh's last game before getting injured.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Straight back into the side and was supposed to have been "immense" in their vital 1-0 win over Brighton. It puts Derby eight clear of Brighton in 7th and was their first clean sheet since Keogh's last game before getting injured.

Corkman, Damien Delaney, has kept 7 clean sheets in 13 games for Crystal Palace in the Premier League. His partnership with Gabbidon has been a key part in Palace's rise up the table.

Decent options we have; Dunne, O'Shea, Clark, Delaney, Pearce, Duffy, McShane, Keogh

That doesn't even include Sean St Ledger, who has arguably been a better player at International level than club level over the last few years.

Now if only Dunne and O'Shea were two years younger and Mark O'Brien could stay fit. :p

[DeLorean]

I get that he's down your pecking order but I'm not sure how you consider him a "decent option" after this?


Well I have been at Pride Park enough to ascertain that he is not good enough to step up to International football and that would be the consensus of most Derby fans.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Richard-Keogh-targets-return-Republic-Ireland/story-20580128-detail/story.html

Keogh states for the 9th or 10th time in the last 12 months that he hopes to be involved in "next squad".

[DeLorean]

How repulsively needy.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

How repulsively needy.

I find it irritating how he keeps saying the same thing before every squad get-together and complaining every time he is left out. There are well over half-a-dozen players competing for two places in the first team and five in the squad, most of them playing in the Premier League. Not everyone is going to play and not everyone is going to get called up. Certainly not everyone is going to whinge or stake their claim to the press every month.

Damien Delaney has about 8 caps. He only made his first competitive appearance in October. Does he keep talking about prospective/lack of call-ups. No. He gets on with it. As should Keogh.

Normally I wouldn't say anything about this. It's normal to want to play International football but when you keep going on about it, to the point where it is genuinely at least the 6th or 7th time in the last 12 months, it starts to become very irritating and even inappropriate and disrespectful.

How do you feel about this, Stutts?

[DeLorean]

Answering a question positively in the local press is hardly causing much of a frenzy. And to think you want to cut Stephen Ireland some slack.


I find it irritating how he keeps saying the same thing

Annoying alright.

[Stuttgart88]

Much ado about nothing. No harm in being keen on a call up but I'd agree that he's down the pecking order. If it's that irritating don't go reading the Derby Telegraph!

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Answering a question positively in the local press is hardly causing much of a frenzy. And to think you want to cut Stephen Ireland some slack.



Annoying alright.

They seem to be just asking Richard. No other Irish footballers, Hendrick and Sammon included, seemed to be asked the same questions on such a recurring basis.

Richard's aggressiveness over a call up is plain strange to me. Aside from Dunne and St Ledger, there are 5 center backs playing regularly in the Premier League. Then there is the younger and more highly rated Alex Pearce and Shane Duffy.

[Stuttgart88]

Aggressiveness (sic)?

I don't see what winds you up so much about this especially, as said above, you're keen to cut Stephen Ireland so much slack when he gives us all two fingers. It's not like either seeks out the press to get their thoughts across.

[tetsujin1979]

When did he complain about missing out on a call up to the squad? Also, Irish player wants to play for country. Shock, horror.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

When did he complain about missing out on a call up to the squad? Also, Irish player wants to play for country. Shock, horror.

Several times and that's the point, we get that you want to play International football so does everyone else. Chris McCann and Damien Delaney stick out in my mind as two players that should have forty more caps between them than they do. I have heard them talk about a call up once or twice over the last 6 or 7 years. With Keogh, it has been a routine thing over the last 12 months. I don't understand it. No disrespect but he is not a high profile player. It's ingratiating in my opinion.

[tricky_colour]

How repulsively needy.


I don't see how it is repulsively needy just because he wants to play, I'd rather that than those who are not so keen.

As it happens Derby have been on a very good run of late and are promotion candidates, I have been having a look
at their form and the recently lost a couple of games, turns out Richard didn't play in either!
Of the last 11 games he played 9 won 2 draws no defeats.

[SkStu]

Several times and that's the point, we get that you want to play International football so does everyone else. Chris McCann and Damien Delaney stick out in my mind as two players that should have forty more caps between them than they do. I have heard them talk about a call up once or twice over the last 6 or 7 years. With Keogh, it has been a routine thing over the last 12 months. I don't understand it. No disrespect but he is not a high profile player. It's ingratiating in my opinion.

What part of "I hope I get a call up to the next squad as I'd love to play for my country" is a complaint?

Here's what he said in your link -


"I've had a brief chat with the new manager, so I'm excited about hopefully being back involved," said the former Coventry City centre-back.

"I think my form has been good this season – and Derby are doing well.

"When you're near the top of the league, that gives you a better opportunity.

"As long as I can keep playing well for Derby, hopefully I can get back in the Ireland squad."

Where's the complaint? He's actually being remarkably sound.

[DeLorean]

I don't see how it is repulsively needy just because he wants to play, I'd rather that than those who are not so keen.

As it happens Derby have been on a very good run of late and are promotion candidates, I have been having a look
at their form and the recently lost a couple of games, turns out Richard didn't play in either!
Of the last 11 games he played 9 won 2 draws no defeats.

I was being sarcastic Trickster :D

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

What part of "I hope I get a call up to the next squad as I'd love to play for my country" is a complaint?

Here's what he said in your link -



Where's the complaint? He's actually being remarkably sound.

Those aren't the soundbites I was on about. For a low profile player, he has been remarkably vocal on the subject of Ireland call ups over the last two seasons (and even before that).

I'll be honest. "Complaining" may be stretching it but outlining your disappointment and regret at not getting a call up every time you aren't called up begins to grate on the nerves after a while.

No disrespect to him but when he gets a call up, he is taking someone else's place in the squad, so it is fine to outline your hopes of getting a call up once or twice but when it becomes a recurring thing it is beginning to lack in decorum and respect towards other players. Everyone wants to be in the squad, not everyone will be. You have to just put your head down.

You would swear we were short on defenders and we were talking about a Premier League stalwart in his early 20s here.

5 or 6 defenders playing in the Premier League. Pearce, Dunne and St Ledger in the Championship and I'm not St Ledger's biggest fan but he has been solid for Ireland. Hoban, Duffy and O'Brien all coming through.

IDK why every time an Ireland squad is announced, Keogh is making a big song and dance when there are frankly more pressing issues but it is no use getting riled up over it. I am just taking little things too seriously. :p

[Stuttgart88]

Jeepers, you joined foot.ie less than 2 months a ago and have over 450 posts. But I think you've only ever made about 3 discrete points. The rest of your posts have been repeating them over and over.

Keogh is not making a big song and dance. You are!

[SkStu]

Those aren't the soundbites I was on about. For a low profile player, he has been remarkably vocal on the subject of Ireland call ups over the last two seasons (and even before that).

I'll be honest. "Complaining" may be stretching it but outlining your disappointment and regret at not getting a call up every time you aren't called up begins to grate on the nerves after a while.

No disrespect to him but when he gets a call up, he is taking someone else's place in the squad, so it is fine to outline your hopes of getting a call up once or twice but when it becomes a recurring thing it is beginning to lack in decorum and respect towards other players. Everyone wants to be in the squad, not everyone will be. You have to just put your head down.

You would swear we were short on defenders and we were talking about a Premier League stalwart in his early 20s here.

5 or 6 defenders playing in the Premier League. Pearce, Dunne and St Ledger in the Championship and I'm not St Ledger's biggest fan but he has been solid for Ireland. Hoban, Duffy and O'Brien all coming through.

IDK why every time an Ireland squad is announced, Keogh is making a big song and dance when there are frankly more pressing issues but it is no use getting riled up over it. I am just taking little things too seriously. :p

You're a strange one. I find that type of passion and desire to play for us admirable. It doesn't grate on my nerves at all and I don't think it lacks decorum and respect for anyone. If he was saying "I hope I get in cos St Ledger is muck" then you'd have no arguments from me.

Let this one go.

[Olé Olé]

The Derby squad isn't likely to be stacked with international players (couple of Scottish ones and Hendrick). It seems to be the case that Keogh addresses the questions which local media ask. If he didn't, then the club captain wouldn't be serving his 'duties'. His international career receives attention on the basis that he is club captain and is one of few with caps.

I'd give him a break. His words aren't exactly full of bile.

[tricky_colour]

I was being sarcastic Trickster :D


Well you certainly tricked me!!!

[Charlie Darwin]

I find it irritating how he keeps saying the same thing before every squad get-together and complaining every time he is left out.
I find it odd how you don't seem to understand that football players get asked questions and occasionally choose to answer them. I've never seen him complain, only say he hopes to be involved next time around.


Several times and that's the point, we get that you want to play International football so does everyone else. Chris McCann and Damien Delaney stick out in my mind as two players that should have forty more caps between them than they do. I have heard them talk about a call up once or twice over the last 6 or 7 years. With Keogh, it has been a routine thing over the last 12 months. I don't understand it. No disrespect but he is not a high profile player. It's ingratiating in my opinion.
Chris McCann hasn't even been fit for 40 Irish games, let alone deserving of being capped each and every time. Delaney probably should have more caps but he had better players ahead of him.

[SwanVsDalton]

'Richard Keogh? Booo! He talks about playing for Ireland all the time, why can't he let it go?!'

'Stephen Ireland? Call him up! His rarely talks about playing for Ireland, fair play to him.'

- TheOneWhoKnocks

Sorry TOWK, but there are strange lines to be drawn between your arguments...although in fairness they do all point to a large, defaced picture of Giovanni Trapattoni, relaxing in a Milanese villa.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

'Richard Keogh? Booo! He talks about playing for Ireland all the time, why can't he let it go?!'

'Stephen Ireland? Call him up! His rarely talks about playing for Ireland, fair play to him.'

- TheOneWhoKnocks

Sorry TOWK, but there are strange lines to be drawn between your arguments...although in fairness they do all point to a large, defaced picture of Giovanni Trapattoni, relaxing in a Milanese villa.

Jeff Hendrick and Conor Sammon don't seem to have a propensity to be asked questions about Ireland with the same frequency as Keogh. For that matter, neither does any other Irish/Irish eligible player; but I accept what ye are saying. He is club captain (I believe) and maybe Derby journos have an intense interest in Keogh's chances of being an Ireland squad player.

Ireland has talked about playing for Ireland a lot recently and in fairness, he is a higher profile and more talented player.

Trapattoni deserves credit for what he done well and what he didn't do well.

For the stability he brought in the first few months of his reign, he deserves credit. For qualifying for Euro 2012 he deserves credit. For making Ireland hard to beat, until the wheels started to fall off in his second campaign, he deserves credit.

For our embarrassing performance at Euro 2012, he doesn't. For our embarrassing WC 2014 qualifying campaign, he doesn't. For his lazy approach to some integral facets of modern management, he doesn't. For his belligerence, he doesn't.

I would even give him some credit for Ireland's performance in Paris but he didn't have anything to do with that because it's common knowledge that the players revolted against his tactics.

I can really be impartial but Trapattoni gave his critics a lot of ammunition in the last two years of his reign and it's unfortunate for him as well as us.

[Stuttgart88]

Just let it go on Richard Keogh. You're becoming obsessed.

As for Trap, you're right. His tenure had both positives and negatives. I think we all know what they were.

One thing struck me in the last few days, when you suggest that Stephen Ireland may have been deterred by Trap's long ball game. I think that's tosh: Stephen Ireland was only deterred by his lack of interest in playing for Ireland.

But just to add further nuance to your point: Trap really only became a long ball merchant in his last 2 years or so. A key feature of his early years was of a rigid back 6 with only the wide guys and the front two having any real attacking license. The role of the CMs was to shield the back 4 and to feed the attacking 4. So while Stephen Ireland may not have had a role to play in this system, he certainly wasn't deterred by our long ball game at the time you suggested he might have been.

For some reason Trap abandoned the back 6 / front 4 philosophy in favour of, well, hardly any philology at all. Perhaps he didn't even trust our players to be obedient workhorses anymore. Sammon over Doyle, give me strength...

[Charlie Darwin]

But just to add further nuance to your point: Trap really only became a long ball merchant in his last 2 years or so.
Really?

[Stuttgart88]

I think so, as per the rest of my para 4 above.

There may have been long balls before, but in the last 2 years - less even, and most notably Sweden and Austria at home - plan A and plan B was long ball. This was absolutely not the case in the first part of his tenure. As I said, the way I saw it was a compact back 6, two attacking wide players and two normal forwards.

As Junior said ages back, there'll always be huff and puff in our football, but in the last campaign in the key home games there was only huff and puff. There's a difference between resorting to hoofing it when under the cosh, and hoofing it as part of the game plan.

[geysir]

'Richard Keogh? Booo! He talks about playing for Ireland all the time, why can't he let it go?!'

'Stephen Ireland? Call him up! His rarely talks about playing for Ireland, fair play to him.'

- TheOneWhoKnocks

Sorry TOWK, but there are strange lines to be drawn between your arguments...although in fairness they do all point to a large, defaced picture of Giovanni Trapattoni, relaxing in a Milanese villa.

It's the dumbest line of argument we've had since the Doc, but at least it was obvious the Doc was parodying himself, intentionally or not.

[Charlie Darwin]

I think so, as per the rest of my para 4 above.

There may have been long balls before, but in the last 2 years - less even, and most notably Sweden and Austria at home - plan A and plan B was long ball. This was absolutely not the case in the first part of his tenure. As I said, the way I saw it was a compact back 6, two attacking wide players and two normal forwards.

As Junior said ages back, there'll always be huff and puff in our football, but in the last campaign in the key home games there was only huff and puff. There's a difference between resorting to hoofing it when under the cosh, and hoofing it as part of the game plan.
I'm not sure I'd agree with that at all, although when we had Duff and Lawrence we did tend to hoof it an awful lot more along the flanks rather than going straight to Doyle/Walters/whoever for a knock-down. Having less robust wingers like McGeady meant we could no longer fire it up the flank and expect to retain possession, so it changed to the winger picking up knock-downs, but we were still operating on the same 6-4 formation.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

It's the dumbest line of argument we've had since the Doc, but at least it was obvious the Doc was parodying himself, intentionally or not.

It's not the dumbest line of argument, geysir. You just have a bit of an obsession with me ever since I voiced an opinion about rotating Robbie Keane; accusing me of manipulating statistics and then doing the exact same thing; accusing me of posting "garbage" when I posted a news article linking Pilkington with Swansea only for Swansea to launch an official bid days later; refusing to let go the fact that I quoted a headline referring to "out of favour" Pilkington; making daft comments on threads about Long/Keane that have nothing to do with the topic all to get a reaction.

You know I am pretty relaxed about these things but the things you are saying i.e. "dumbest" are getting pretty unnecessary. If you have no respect for other people's opinions then maybe you should just take the high road and ignore them?

[DeLorean]

You just have a bit of an obsession with me

We're all obsessed with you TOWK. You have rocked foot.ie to it's foundations.

[Charlie Darwin]

We're all obsessed with you TOWK. You have rocked foot.ie to it's foundations.
Poor grammar. I nominate DeLorean as the next foot.ie fall guy. TOWK is off the hook :)

[BonnieShels]

Just like Lord of the Flies.
Poor Delorean.

[the doc]

It's the dumbest line of argument we've had since the Doc, but at least it was obvious the Doc was parodying himself, intentionally or not.

Easy tiger, why bring me into the argument?

Then again Parody is my middle name!!!!

Reading through some of the posts i think we're all becoming a bit stir crazy,

Roll on the Euro draw and up and coming matches, we all could do with that.

COYBIG

[Stuttgart88]

Reading through some of the posts i think we're all becoming a bit stir crazy,

Roll on the Euro draw and up and coming matches, we all could do with that.

COYBIG

Hear Hear

[DeLorean]

Poor grammar. I nominate DeLorean as the next foot.ie fall guy. TOWK is off the hook :)

Feck, I hate that. I would have thought with the foundations belonging to foot.ie, an apostrophe would have been necessary. Obviously not and good to know.

[geysir]

It takes a brave man to pick on grammar, but no doubt (by now) Charlie's mouth is big enough to accommodate his foot.

[paul_oshea]

Hear Hear

Where there?

[DeLorean]

Jeff Hendrick and Conor Sammon don't seem to have a propensity to be asked questions about Ireland with the same frequency as Keogh.

Hendrick dropped out of the Sweden/Austria squad through injury and was still injured by the time King picked his squad. As soon as he was available again, lo and behold, he came out with with this. (http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/jeff-im-out-to-impress-oneill-29822329.html)

(http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/jeff-im-out-to-impress-oneill-29822329.html)Sammon was in every squad other than King's in the last year. By the time he was excluded from the Ireland squad he had lost his place at Derby, hardly a basis for reminding the world of his availability.


He is club captain (I believe)

One would think such a frequent visitor to Pride Park would be in no doubt.

[Crosby87]

Pride marches?

[DeLorean]

Haha maybe that's why the were so eager to rename it the iPro for a pretty modest sum.

[Stuttgart88]

Hendrick As soon as he was available again, lo and behold, he came out with with this. (http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/jeff-im-out-to-impress-oneill-29822329.html) [URL="http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/jeff-im-out-to-impress-oneill-29822329.html"]
What a whinger :)